我觉得老师有点overreact了, 但是想想如果你给别人工作评价是Excellent,对方的回答是:you spelled the word wrong. 很尴尬。要是我就给孩子顺便讲讲什么场合/情景应该怎么说话,对7-8岁的孩子也算不错的情商课了 别人夸你,说thank you就好了 别人犯了个小错,比如typo,重要吗影响理解吗?如果不重要就不要说什么,如果重要可以问Is it the right understanding that....或是Just to clarify, you are trying to say.....这样别人会感谢,不会被embarrassed或是offended 加一句,这个老师也是个情商低的,理解她的尴尬,自己来一句oopsy!I guess I had a fat finger...自嘲一句不就过去了,正好告诉孩子遇到这种情况怎么react:))
老师回复的确是有问题的。 七八岁的孩子,经常被老师纠正spelling,习惯性指出同学的spelling是一件很正常的事,不仅仅不是inappropriate,对方还要谢谢指出来。 不过这个事情是一个很好的时机跟孩子讲讲同别人沟通,以及同理心的培养。 比如别人说你excellent但是excellent出现了typo,你该怎么办?直接指出来typo老师明显不高兴了,为什么老师会不高兴,还有没有更好的办法? 孩子看到这个肯定很难过,我觉得首先得让孩子知道,他没有做错什么,只是可以做的更好一些。 将心比心,孩子能体会如何能更好地去沟通交流,学会用同理心去思考。 这个老师不仅仅是小题大做,更不该给孩子戴个什么rude的帽子,暗示孩子not being respectful or kind是非常非常不妥的。一边让孩子学,一边自己就忘记了,孩子一样是值得尊重的,一个typo别人指出来虽然很没面子,但是同rude没啥关系,最多就是孩子情商不够而已。 如果我是老师我会说:Oops! Thank you Eric! Sharp eyes! EXCELLENT job for pointing out my typo! (I have double checked to avoid typo this time ;-p)
家里二年级的小娃,今天发生的事情,简言之就是娃说老师comment里面的excellent拼错了,老师回复说他inappropriate & rude... 我比娃先看到,当时心里一沉,但是没有跟他提,估计他都还不知道。但是给娃爹看了也是觉得老师太take it serious了。为什么我反而觉得她这样才是inappropriate&rude。想知道是我们反应过度吗 kingkongyoyo 发表于 2020-09-23 03:35
我可能会回说 Sorry that this bothered you, I believe this is not personal nor because of the lack of respect as the kid was encouraged to point out typo/mistakes as we are promoting a culture to be honest and straightforward with each other at home, and we believe this would help each other to improve themselves and would appreciate the correction. We are sorry if this culture is not aligned with the one that is being promoted at school, and we are very sorry if he offended you. Please don''''''''''''''''t take this personal and pls feel free to let him know next time what''''''''''''''''s the expected behavior, I believe he will learn better in how to communicate correct information without offending other people based on a constructive feedback. Thank you!
kingkongyoyo 发表于 2020-09-23 03:35我可能会回说Sorry that this bothered you, I believe this is not personal nor because of the lack of respect as the kid was encouraged to point out typo/mistakes as we are promoting a culture to be honest and straightforward with each other at home, and we believe this would help each other to improve themselves and would appreciate the correction.We are sorry if this culture is not aligned with the one that is being promoted at school, and we are very sorry if he offended you. Please don''''''''''''''''t take this personal and pls feel free to let him know next time what''''''''''''''''s the expected behavior, I believe he will learn better in how to communicate correct information without offending other people based on a constructive feedback. Thank you! me2me2 发表于 9/23/2020 6:33:39 PM
这样说估计老师会更生气。认为你在讽刺他/她。我个人觉得这件事如果你没有想转班的话就let it go.写封email说明情况孩子is not being rude.只是习惯了看见typo指出来,希望老师不要take it personal. 其余不要多说了。遇到这样的老师你能怎么办呢。你孩子还得在她手上一年。她不爽你,分分钟给你穿小鞋。
家里二年级的小娃,今天发生的事情,简言之就是娃说老师comment里面的excellent拼错了,老师回复说他inappropriate & rude... 我比娃先看到,当时心里一沉,但是没有跟他提,估计他都还不知道。但是给娃爹看了也是觉得老师太take it serious了。为什么我反而觉得她这样才是inappropriate&rude。想知道是我们反应过度吗 kingkongyoyo 发表于 2020-09-23 03:35我可能会回说Sorry that this bothered you, I believe this is not personal nor because of the lack of respect as the kid was encouraged to point out typo/mistakes as we are promoting a culture to be honest and straightforward with each other at home, and we believe this would help each other to improve themselves and would appreciate the correction.We are sorry if this culture is not aligned with the one that is being promoted at school, and we are very sorry if he offended you. Please don''''''''''''''''t take this personal and pls feel free to let him know next time what''''''''''''''''s the expected behavior, I believe he will learn better in how to communicate correct information without offending other people based on a constructive feedback. Thank you! me2me2 发表于 9/23/2020 6:33:39 PM
这样说估计老师会更生气。认为你在讽刺他/她。我个人觉得这件事如果你没有想转班的话就let it go.写封email说明情况孩子is not being rude.只是习惯了看见typo指出来,希望老师不要take it personal. 其余不要多说了。遇到这样的老师你能怎么办呢。你孩子还得在她手上一年。她不爽你,分分钟给你穿小鞋。
家里二年级的小娃,今天发生的事情,简言之就是娃说老师comment里面的excellent拼错了,老师回复说他inappropriate & rude... 我比娃先看到,当时心里一沉,但是没有跟他提,估计他都还不知道。但是给娃爹看了也是觉得老师太take it serious了。为什么我反而觉得她这样才是inappropriate&rude。想知道是我们反应过度吗 kingkongyoyo 发表于 2020-09-23 03:35我可能会回说Sorry that this bothered you, I believe this is not personal nor because of the lack of respect as the kid was encouraged to point out typo/mistakes as we are promoting a culture to be honest and straightforward with each other at home, and we believe this would help each other to improve themselves and would appreciate the correction.We are sorry if this culture is not aligned with the one that is being promoted at school, and we are very sorry if he offended you. Please don''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t take this personal and pls feel free to let him know next time what''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s the expected behavior, I believe he will learn better in how to communicate correct information without offending other people based on a constructive feedback. Thank you! me2me2 发表于 9/23/2020 6:33:39 PM
bbsunny 发表于 2020-09-23 19:19
Agree. Just be brief and don''t try to explain (aka "argue" with her) more.
Just tell the teacher your kiddo didn’t mean to offend him/her. It’s your constant correcting the kid’s spelling forced him into the habit of pointing out every typo he sees. And you are very sorry that he picked the wrong occasion to practice this. Appreciate the teacher’s hard work and input. Kiddo has learned a lot blah blah...
我觉得老师有点overreact了, 但是想想如果你给别人工作评价是Excellent,对方的回答是:you spelled the word wrong. 很尴尬。要是我就给孩子顺便讲讲什么场合/情景应该怎么说话,对7-8岁的孩子也算不错的情商课了 别人夸你,说thank you就好了 别人犯了个小错,比如typo,重要吗影响理解吗?如果不重要就不要说什么,如果重要可以问Is it the right understanding that....或是Just to clarify, you are trying to say.....这样别人会感谢,不会被embarrassed或是offended 加一句,这个老师也是个情商低的,理解她的尴尬,自己来一句oopsy!I guess I had a fat finger...自嘲一句不就过去了,正好告诉孩子遇到这种情况怎么react:)) bellamia 发表于 9/23/2020 8:08:36 AM
这确实是一个孩子学习的过程,对于情商和与人相处有好处。你不想孩子出去说you are fat之类的吧。孩子的回复有点太straightforward. 当然老师的回复也是过激。不过我们中国人总是拿孩子当孩子,很容易原谅孩子的过失,但有时孩子无心的话才更伤人。美国人的方式拿他们当平等的灵魂,lesson learnt吧。没必要闹大,损人不利己。
我可能会回说 Sorry that this bothered you, I believe this is not personal nor because of the lack of respect as the kid was encouraged to point out typo/mistakes as we are promoting a culture to be honest and straightforward with each other at home, and we believe this would help each other to improve themselves and would appreciate the correction. We are sorry if this culture is not aligned with the one that is being promoted at school, and we are very sorry if he offended you. Please don''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t take this personal and pls feel free to let him know next time what''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s the expected behavior, I believe he will learn better in how to communicate correct information without offending other people based on a constructive feedback. Thank you! me2me2 发表于 2020-09-23 18:33
写这么多sorry ... 在美国最忌讳的就是不停地sorry,多少美国人就是真做了错事都没有说sorry。孩子就是还没分清typo和拼写错误的区别,didn’t mean to offend her. 希望她不要take it personal. 简洁一点,不要过多解释更不要say sorry, there is nothing to be sorry about.
不是当面,就是交作业的app里面。我截图里,可能字太小了。
直接发给校长。下次老师就会三思。不要当包子。Standup for your child!
别人夸你,说thank you就好了 别人犯了个小错,比如typo,重要吗影响理解吗?如果不重要就不要说什么,如果重要可以问Is it the right understanding that....或是Just to clarify, you are trying to say.....这样别人会感谢,不会被embarrassed或是offended
加一句,这个老师也是个情商低的,理解她的尴尬,自己来一句oopsy!I guess I had a fat finger...自嘲一句不就过去了,正好告诉孩子遇到这种情况怎么react:))
要先把对方夸得像朵花,内容没得夸的话,就要夸他的efforts 。然后再适当言简义概的提几点意见。英语文化就是这样,习惯了就好。 我娃刚上学时候英语很差,考试只能对不到一半, 老师还不是一样夸,真努力做得好之类的,孩子不尴尬学习热情大了,我觉得很好。
我会觉得这是个不好的信号,如果孩子真的行为很恰当,我会看看老师以后怎么对待孩子。不要先把老师放在对立面,也不要一点不操心。
我可能会回说 Sorry that this bothered you, I believe this is not personal nor because of the lack of respect as the kid was encouraged to point out typo/mistakes as we are promoting a culture to be honest and straightforward with each other at home, and we believe this would help each other to improve themselves and would appreciate the correction.
We are sorry if this culture is not aligned with the one that is being promoted at school, and we are very sorry if he offended you. Please don''''''''''''''''t take this personal and pls feel free to let him know next time what''''''''''''''''s the expected behavior, I believe he will learn better in how to communicate correct information without offending other people based on a constructive feedback. Thank you!
我家老大也是有时候很bossy。过头了,就会rude。 同样的事情发生, 如果是在期末, 我很能理解老师。估计忍了好久了 如果是在刚开学, 那绝对是老师的问题。尤其还只是二年级的孩子。
想想,我们是多大了,才慢慢学会 理解别人,体谅别人,原谅别人。 而且很多时候,也只是接受现实,or 变得虚伪了。
真是拿大人的标准去要求一个二年级的孩子。
Agree. Just be brief and don''t try to explain (aka "argue" with her) more.
这种情况是不是最好保持沉默不要指出老师的错误?
顶这个,直接截屏,发给校长。
我觉得二年级的孩子,尤其是男孩子,这个反应挺 age appropriate的,很直接。 老师的回复非常不 (age) appropriate, 私校的话可以反应给校长。 公校的话,如果可以转班再反应给校长吧。我觉得不管以后老师给不给孩子穿小鞋,这种气度还是不要教我的孩子了。
美国在对孩子的尊重上,确实是把他们当成是平等的灵魂了。 但这里说的只是尊重,不是要求孩子 behave成大人那样。 对minor的包容程度并没有减少,甚至更甚。
写这么多sorry ... 在美国最忌讳的就是不停地sorry,多少美国人就是真做了错事都没有说sorry。孩子就是还没分清typo和拼写错误的区别,didn’t mean to offend her. 希望她不要take it personal. 简洁一点,不要过多解释更不要say sorry, there is nothing to be sorry about.