Just in case 有人质疑，我把标题稍改是因为huaren的标题有字数限制，没有政治含义，无意误导。。。。 https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-signs-off-on-deal-allowing-tiktok-to-continue-u-s-operations-11600551352?mod=hp_lead_pos1 WASHINGTON—President Trump said he has agreed in concept to a deal under which Chinese-owned video-sharing app TikTok will partner with Oracle Corp. ORCL -0.71% and Walmart Inc. to become a U.S.-based company, capping negotiations that have stirred debate over national security and the future of the internet. “I have given the deal my blessing, if they get it done that’s okay too, if they don’t that’s fine too,” Mr. Trump told reporters at the White House on Saturday. The president said the agreement will result in the creation of 25,000 jobs, mostly in Texas, adding that the new company will still be called TikTok and “will have nothing to do with China.” He added that the Oracle and Walmart are planning to set up a $5 billion fund for the education of young Americans. He did not offer further details. The negotiations over TikTok’s U.S. operations began after the president signed an executive order in August that labeled TikTok a national-security threat, forcing its owner, Beijing-based ByteDance Ltd., to pursue a sale or partnership with a U.S. company. The administration contends that the data TikTok collects from U.S. users could be shared with the Chinese government. TikTok has said it would never hand over such data. Oracle ORCL -0.71% beat out several other companies that had expressed interest in TikTok, including Microsoft Corp. and Twitter Inc. In response to Mr. Trump’s August executive order, the Commerce Department on Friday issued regulations barring U.S. companies from providing downloads or updates for TikTok after 11:59 p.m. Sunday. The order also applies to WeChat, another popular Chinese-owned app that isn’t part of the deal discussions. ByteDance has been locked in negotiations over how to address the U.S. government’s security concerns and this week seemed to be gaining momentum toward an agreement that could be signed by Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump told reporters Friday that he expected to make a decision soon on that partnership. “They’re going to be showing me everything in a little while on TikTok,” the president told reporters at the White House before departing for a rally in Minnesota. “We’re going to make a fairly fast decision. I don’t think we have to delay it too much,” he added, calling TikTok “a pretty incredible asset.” Friday’s move by the Commerce Department first appeared to throw up a new roadblock, but the president’s comments were greeted by the deal participants as a positive sign that a resolution is possible soon. The negotiations already had been working against a Sunday deadline as a result of the August executive order. The Commerce Department’s move clarified and defined how the Sunday ban would work if the parties fail to reach an agreement that satisfies the U.S. government. In a statement, TikTok said its proposal to the U.S. government contained unprecedented levels of transparency and accountability about how it handles user data, and that it disagrees with the Commerce Department’s move. The company has filed a lawsuit challenging the August executive order. “Our community of 100 million U.S. users love TikTok because it’s a home for entertainment, self-expression, and connection, and we’re committed to protecting their privacy and safety as we continue working to bring joy to families and meaningful careers to those who create on our platform,” TikTok said. TikTok is hugely popular among young people in the U.S., and its fate has been closely watched by its fans as well as Silicon Valley’s top executives. Adam Mosseri, chief executive of Facebook Inc.’s Instagram tweeted on Friday that a U.S. ban of TikTok “would be quite bad for Instagram, Facebook, and the internet more broadly.” Instagram earlier this year launched a new service called Reels that includes many features similar to TikTok and was seen as a potential threat to the app’s surge in popularity. Vanessa Pappas, the interim head of TikTok, quickly voiced her agreement with Mr. Mosseri and challenged his company to do more. “We invite Facebook and Instagram to publicly join our challenge and support our litigation. This is a moment to put aside our competition and focus on core principles like freedom of expression and due process of law,” she said on Twitter. The Wall Street Journal previously reported that Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg had stoked concerns about TikTok in Washington. Write to Andrew Restuccia at [email protected], John D. McKinnon at [email protected] and Georgia Wells at [email protected]
Trump expressed annoyance this week that government lawyers told him it was not permissible to demand a "chunk" of any TikTok sales price for the Treasury.
up to “最多能达 20%”，而且是Oracle + Walmart合起来 Under the terms of the proposal, Oracle and Walmart will be able to take up to a 20 percent cumulative stake in the company,
53% ... into the hands of American companies and investors New York Times: Trump Approves Deal Between Oracle and TikTok Sept. 19, 2020 Updated 8:26 p.m. ET WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Saturday that he had approved a deal between the Chinese-owned social media app TikTok and major American companies, an agreement that will delay the U.S. government’s threat to block the popular app in the United States over national security concerns. The deal, which must still gain formal U.S. approval, would cede some control to Oracle, an American software maker, and Walmart, ultimately placing 53 percent equity in the service into the hands of American companies and investors, a person with knowledge of the matter said. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/technology/trump-oracle-and-tiktok.html
回复 67楼denis_sis的帖子 虽然我多半会投他，但是Oracle明显跟川普有关系。还没行贿。。。之前说要搞zoom,zoom很快把云从aws换到Oracle.不就是Oracle老板投了不少钱去他女婿的公司。管谁上台都tmd的黑，还law and order也是个joke，law and order就是对屁民，对权贵就是个屁。谁上台只关心自己的钱包捞了没
回复 67楼denis_sis的帖子 虽然我多半会投他，但是Oracle明显跟川普有关系。还没行贿。。。之前说要搞zoom,zoom很快把云从aws换到Oracle.不就是Oracle老板投了不少钱去他女婿的公司。管谁上台都tmd的黑，还law and order也是个joke，law and order就是对屁民，对权贵就是个屁。谁上台只关心自己的钱包捞了没 COA 发表于 2020-09-20 10:09
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-signs-off-on-deal-allowing-tiktok-to-continue-u-s-operations-11600551352?mod=hp_lead_pos1
WASHINGTON—President Trump said he has agreed in concept to a deal under which Chinese-owned video-sharing app TikTok will partner with Oracle Corp. ORCL -0.71% and Walmart Inc. to become a U.S.-based company, capping negotiations that have stirred debate over national security and the future of the internet.
“I have given the deal my blessing, if they get it done that’s okay too, if they don’t that’s fine too,” Mr. Trump told reporters at the White House on Saturday. The president said the agreement will result in the creation of 25,000 jobs, mostly in Texas, adding that the new company will still be called TikTok and “will have nothing to do with China.”
He added that the Oracle and Walmart are planning to set up a $5 billion fund for the education of young Americans. He did not offer further details. The negotiations over TikTok’s U.S. operations began after the president signed an executive order in August that labeled TikTok a national-security threat, forcing its owner, Beijing-based ByteDance Ltd., to pursue a sale or partnership with a U.S. company.
The administration contends that the data TikTok collects from U.S. users could be shared with the Chinese government. TikTok has said it would never hand over such data.
Oracle ORCL -0.71% beat out several other companies that had expressed interest in TikTok, including Microsoft Corp. and Twitter Inc. In response to Mr. Trump’s August executive order, the Commerce Department on Friday issued regulations barring U.S. companies from providing downloads or updates for TikTok after 11:59 p.m. Sunday. The order also applies to WeChat, another popular Chinese-owned app that isn’t part of the deal discussions.
ByteDance has been locked in negotiations over how to address the U.S. government’s security concerns and this week seemed to be gaining momentum toward an agreement that could be signed by Mr. Trump.
Mr. Trump told reporters Friday that he expected to make a decision soon on that partnership.
“They’re going to be showing me everything in a little while on TikTok,” the president told reporters at the White House before departing for a rally in Minnesota. “We’re going to make a fairly fast decision. I don’t think we have to delay it too much,” he added, calling TikTok “a pretty incredible asset.” Friday’s move by the Commerce Department first appeared to throw up a new roadblock, but the president’s comments were greeted by the deal participants as a positive sign that a resolution is possible soon.
The negotiations already had been working against a Sunday deadline as a result of the August executive order. The Commerce Department’s move clarified and defined how the Sunday ban would work if the parties fail to reach an agreement that satisfies the U.S. government.
In a statement, TikTok said its proposal to the U.S. government contained unprecedented levels of transparency and accountability about how it handles user data, and that it disagrees with the Commerce Department’s move. The company has filed a lawsuit challenging the August executive order.
“Our community of 100 million U.S. users love TikTok because it’s a home for entertainment, self-expression, and connection, and we’re committed to protecting their privacy and safety as we continue working to bring joy to families and meaningful careers to those who create on our platform,” TikTok said.
TikTok is hugely popular among young people in the U.S., and its fate has been closely watched by its fans as well as Silicon Valley’s top executives. Adam Mosseri, chief executive of Facebook Inc.’s Instagram tweeted on Friday that a U.S. ban of TikTok “would be quite bad for Instagram, Facebook, and the internet more broadly.” Instagram earlier this year launched a new service called Reels that includes many features similar to TikTok and was seen as a potential threat to the app’s surge in popularity.
Vanessa Pappas, the interim head of TikTok, quickly voiced her agreement with Mr. Mosseri and challenged his company to do more. “We invite Facebook and Instagram to publicly join our challenge and support our litigation. This is a moment to put aside our competition and focus on core principles like freedom of expression and due process of law,” she said on Twitter.
The Wall Street Journal previously reported that Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg had stoked concerns about TikTok in Washington.
Write to Andrew Restuccia at [email protected], John D. McKinnon at [email protected] and Georgia Wells at [email protected]
他们本来就是独立运营的美国公司吧。到底卖了没？ 如果卖了，为啥说partner？
哈，都是利益啊。我觉得是利好啊。TT这样未来就不是一个坏的precedent 了
TikTok and WeChat downloads soar ahead of Sunday's ban https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/19/tech/tiktok-wechat-downloads/index.html
这下的确显得比较没有底限，搞了半天，就是为了抢股份。
怎么洗呢？“I have given the deal my blessing”，统领话都说的这么明白了 至于为什么是Oracle这个帖子也讲得很明白了：https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2596198&fid=398&page=1
川粉群跟法轮群里，还没商量好怎么洗，这盘子角度太大，扣脸上了，不好叨
再不商量好明天微信就没法用了诶
难说，ban TikTok基本引起了整个Gen Z的网络愤怒和反抗，ban Wechat不少华人叫好 Gen Z的投票权碾压内部分裂的美华。Trump这么“精明”的商人，呵呵
哈哈。。。微信也挪个ora云吧。
trump从来就没有在乎过美华不美华吧
估计后面也做运作呢。再看看。
所以哪个kevin mayer就是被踢出去的，之前还有人说他识时务为俊杰。这种人就是不成器的。
微信在美国用户群真是小到不能再小的华人群体了。 哪里有关乎什么国家安全。 就是扇你们几巴掌给他在乎的洪波们看个乐子。
可惜了美华川粉们一片痴心，真贱
即便微信最后也“解封”了，（川老板）这操作还是恶心了我。
最后只是梅花受影响
而在这已经很少的美华中还有很多美华非常（病态的）开心。
花无百日红。 分久必合，合久必分
美国用安全名义去搞抖音微信，欧洲用什么名义去搞美国公司？
这就某粉喜欢的news
里根是鹰派，川普只是为了个人利益激化矛盾以便甩锅。
没准就是这些美华提议ban的，一般的美国人都没听过微信
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/uPd1oPaM2Ww
同学你读不读新闻啊？有点常识吧。如果tiktok很烂，如你所言，trump会让他的金主买？有点逻辑再来argue吧
up to “最多能达 20%”，而且是Oracle + Walmart合起来
Under the terms of the proposal, Oracle and Walmart will be able to take up to a 20 percent cumulative stake in the company,
New York Times: Trump Approves Deal Between Oracle and TikTok Sept. 19, 2020 Updated 8:26 p.m. ET
WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Saturday that he had approved a deal between the Chinese-owned social media app TikTok and major American companies, an agreement that will delay the U.S. government’s threat to block the popular app in the United States over national security concerns. The deal, which must still gain formal U.S. approval, would cede some control to Oracle, an American software maker, and Walmart, ultimately placing 53 percent equity in the service into the hands of American companies and investors, a person with knowledge of the matter said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/technology/trump-oracle-and-tiktok.html
川大嘴莫不真是tg的狗吧，这到底是为谁啊。笑死我了，这到底有没有智商？
以前形象也不怎么样……
lol true.
伤敌一百，自损一万。金毛擅长这个
还把全美tiktok年轻用户莫名的团结起来了
金毛这种伤敌一百，自损一万的功力，太强了。。。
能破产六个公司的人不是浪得虚名。。。
很精明啊，本来就不是雷锋。总比放病毒杀人好，再说这是business negotiation...美国得利了，对老美好，有什么不好！？ 当然，对不是美国人自然觉得亏了。这算双赢吧美国赢大的，要不TikTok强制解散对谁都不好。谁叫最开始要干扰Rally被盯上了
我也是因为川普宣传才下载的，还真的挺好玩的😂
有很多有意思的视频，搞笑的，新奇的，跳舞的啥都有
我关注了几个玩音乐的华人和老外小孩，很有才华，江山代有人才出啊
放心吧，他肯定没有。不知道你们是年轻还是看不清事情的走向。骂老船之前记得他的立场，当然这些都是在不违背法律情况下。这件事美国目前受益了，Oracle 也得感谢他。
欧盟以后会不会分开呢？ 欧盟缺乏川普这种强硬派，Decisive而且很精明把自己国家利益放第一的人，而不是难民大爱，美国人喜欢啊！ 一切都是Business合法情况下美国利益优先；当然TikTok 也可以拒绝这个提议然后关闭，没有人强迫。这招明显给川普选情加分。
笑死了
还有各种做吃的， 喝的，旅游的。我女儿最喜欢跳舞的。
我错过什么了？TT干扰rally？不会是说那次TT上说买川老板rally的票然后不去？这件事情能算到TT的头上吗？这不是和人用枪杀人，杀人的是凶手而非枪类似的道理？
监听德国总理的手机电话，应该是手机公司，操作系统，CPU制造，通讯社交软件联合作案，像苹果，Google，Facebook，intel等所有公司都应该被禁.....
抖音更好玩。。。
反垄断法和数据安全保密。欧洲有全世界最严格的数据法案 美国企业大部分都被罚过
欧洲会先拿中国公司练练手吧。
我是铁杆今年要vote把这货搞下去。
虽然我多半会投他，但是Oracle明显跟川普有关系。还没行贿。。。之前说要搞zoom,zoom很快把云从aws换到Oracle.不就是Oracle老板投了不少钱去他女婿的公司。管谁上台都tmd的黑，还law and order也是个joke，law and order就是对屁民，对权贵就是个屁。谁上台只关心自己的钱包捞了没
oracle 投资给他女婿公司有出处吗？
他是马仔的事情 全世界都知道 完全就是肥自己人