Perhaps, more businesses making more commercial actiivities would use more energy especially oils, as they think! But the world actually needs more indutriial activities, especially manufacturing better quality products catered for majority common people to do works for living! Perhaps manufacturing of goods doesn''t make ideal returns quickly for the capital employed! Imagine a new world consisting of people using merely software, without physical manufacturing properly? And this new world still expect and want everyone lives in peace - even wiithout eating variety of foods! How dump! Isn''''t it? SOFTbank: Q The biggest backers of SoftBank''s $100 billion Vision Fund ...www.businessinsider.com › sai › clusterstock Sep 16, 2019 - With Japanese conglomerate''s original $100 billion fund struggling with two of its highest profile investments, two of its biggest investors — Saudi Arabia''s Public Investment Fund and Abu Dhabi''s Mubadala Investment — are re-evaluating how much money they''ll put into a planned follow-on fund, Bloomberg reported Monday ... 2019年9月16日-随着日本企业集团最初的1000亿美元资金在其两项最引人注目的投资中挣扎，其两名最大的投资者-沙特阿拉伯的Public Investment Fund和阿布扎比的Mubadala Investment-进行了重新调整 彭博社周一报道称，正在评估他们将向计划中的后续基金投入多少资金... UQ 他们认为，也许更多的企业开展更多的商业活动会消耗更多的能源，尤其是石油。
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回复 44楼woaiapple的帖子 " 就像孙正义的大部分投资都是实体经济，他是的确有vision 的，是想搞一些行业革命的，但是挡不住花姐各种方式在背后拆台，只好在金融上正面迎击了" Looks like he wanted to prove he can do well in speculating big this time! Perhaps he could try again later! 看起来他想证明自己这次可以很好地进行大投机！ 也许他可以稍后再试！
Q What’s spurring the surge is a question that started to obsess Wall Street, climaxing Friday in speculation that buying by a single money pool was responsible for much of it. Bloomberg reported in August that SoftBank Corp. was raising stakes in the Faang group using structures that don’t require public filings. The Wall Street Journal and Financial Times reported Friday that purchases of bullish options by SoftBank on billions of dollars worth of stock amplified this summer’s rally in technology companies. 促使价格飙升的是一个开始困扰华尔街的问题，在周五高涨的时候人们猜测，单一资金池的购买是其中的主要原因。 彭博社8月份报道称，软银公司正在使用不需要公开文件的结构来筹集Faang集团的股份。 《华尔街日报》和《金融时报》周五报道，软银购买价值数十亿美元股票的看涨期权，放大了今年夏天科技公司的涨势。 Jason Goepfert, president of Sundial Capital Research, says that while SoftBank may be the biggest player, it can’t be just one firm whipping up markets. Small day traders have spent $40 billion in call premiums in a month, data he compiled from the Options Clearing Corp. show. That’s a hefty amount for retail investors to be wielding and dwarfs what SoftBank is reported to have spent. Sundial Capital Research总裁杰森·戈普弗特（Jason Goepfert）表示，尽管软银可能是最大的参与者，但它并不仅仅是一家鞭打市场的公司。 他从期权结算公司（Options Clearing Corp.）收集的数据显示，小型日间交易员一个月内花费了400亿美元的看涨期权。 对于散户投资者来说，这是一笔巨额资金，这使软银据报道的支出相形见.. 。 彭博社8月份报道称，软银公司正在使用不需要公开文件的结构来筹集Faang集团的股份。 《华尔街日报》和《金融时报》周五报道，软银购买价值数十亿美元股票的看涨期权，放大了今年夏天科技公司的涨势。 “Softbank as a call buyer makes sense, as does the underlying buying it generates. But trades less than 10 contracts swamped the rumored Softbank buys, so clearly others were trying to tag along for the ride,” Goepfert said. “Not sure why now versus other years, other than stay-at-home boredom. Maybe the retail crowd saw this as their last, best change to get rich quick.” “作为买入期权的买方，软银及其产生的基础购买也很有意义。 但交易少于10张合约，充斥了传闻中的软银购买，因此很明显其他公司正试图加价。” Goepfert说。 “不知道为什么现在和其他年份相比，全神贯注。 也许零售人群将这视为他们最后的，最好的改变，以快速致富。” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-05/huge-swings-in-options-overrun-stocks-leave-fund-manager-baffled? UQ
So his hypothesis works well so far! It seems! 因此，到目前为止，他的假设行之有效！它似乎！ Q That all points to a highly unusual and unstable market. And the SoftBank "reveal" provides a working hypothesis to those who have been scratching their heads to understand what has fuelled this extraordinary rally in tech stocks. 所有这些都表明市场非常不稳定。 而软银的“揭露”则为那些努力摸索以了解是什么推动了科技股非同寻常的反弹的人提供了一个有效的假设。 https://www.afr.com/markets/equity-markets/call-me-crazy-softbank-and-the-madness-in-the-options-market-20200906-p55su2 UQ
反正就是神仙打架了，凡人估计跟着遭殃。等打完了应该就好了。
最新更新: WSJ也发了文章 https://www.wsj.com/articles/softbanks-bet-on-tech-giants-fueled-powerful-market-rally-11599232205
说是孙正义做多科技股期权，买大盘期权跌来对冲。说是价值在35到40亿的期权今天过期。 结果今天变成了苹果特斯拉跌下去，大盘收在中间，孙正义对冲被玩完。
上午我写的部分：:
股市本来就是大号的赌场，普通散户在里面是跟着赚小钱的，赌场的目的是吃大户。
上半年油价为负，期货市场打爆中国原油宝就不说了，昨天今天大跌，消息已经出来了，是收拾孙正义的softbank 全文在financial time上面https://www.ft.com/content/75587aa6-1f1f-4e9d-b334-3ff866753fa2
大意如下： 孙正义的1000亿美元vision基金，最近成立了一个资产管理公司，拨了100亿美元用于投资。该部利用美国疫情大跌，大量买入Apple，Alphabet，Microsoft和Tesla等科技股。而且其手法不是买正股，而是买期权call，类似当年保时捷逼死空头的手法，大量买call，在到期日逼迫持有正股的券商和机构行权，那些被迫行权的机构只好买入股票再给他，股价就被拉抬了。打个比喻，TSLA股价2000时，他买1800的call，这样可以肯定要收正股，券商不得不找正股卖给他，买股拉高股价，他也不傻，股价拉到2050他就把call卖了。这种手法在今年夏季用了很多，所以可以看到疯狂时TSLA一天500亿美元，苹果一天400亿美元的成交.
所以这块肥肉就被盯上了。华尔街的犹太人是一伙的，内部有纷争，对外人那是一致的。定在苹果和特斯拉分股后的第一周行动。砸盘开始于昨天，而不是到期日的周五。昨天早上到现在，大盘3580打到3350，苹果和tsla暴跌，等周五打爆孙正义的option以后，估计又是马照跑舞照跳，赌场老板继续等着宰下一个大户。
看完这篇文章，我的感觉就是，猫捉老鼠，玩的不是杀死老鼠，而是玩慢慢折磨老鼠的过程。昨天开始砸盘，今天报纸i就登出来了。简直就是刽子手一边行刑，一边当众宣读行刑过程，图的就是心情好。真的是没有做不到，只有想不到。
估计等这家大户吃完，赌场生意继续。股市继续向好。
我继续等解禁搬家去欧洲
孙正义为啥要买涨美股？感觉是学的索罗斯捧摔亚欧那套老把戏啊。日本人牛逼
花姐为啥要砸盘美股？花姐为什么不有钱大家赚
太精彩了
这次是日本。。。
德日还是很厉害～
跟这个有关吗？人家可是这么说的哦
也不能這麼說，這兩天這種跌法，很多散戶也很很被坑了一下， 要是運氣不好，風險意識不夠高，加上操作不當， 那這兩天肯定也是虧慘了
这个还早吧。不过确实给芯片公司的远期前景蒙上了一层阴影。
我知道有很多大量买特斯拉今天500的call的😥我都废了一个....
这个新闻我都不知道说啥好。。。。。。。。。。
说是孙正义做多科技股，买大盘跌来对冲。说是价值在35到40亿的期权今天过期。 结果今天变成了苹果特斯拉跌下去，大盘收在中间，孙正义对冲被玩完。
> 打个比喻，TSLA股价2000时，他买1800的call，这样可以肯定要收正股，券商不得不找正股卖给他，买股拉高股价
你这个理解值得商榷。股价2000时，怎么买1800的call？call的价位必须高于2000吧。不管这个比喻是否靠谱，通过option来操纵一只股票，哪有你说的这么容易。孙正义不管如何操作，他是冒了相当大的风险的。当然，他是看好这些股票的，他显然是赌对了。至于他赌注是否太大，以至于被花街围剿而导致亏损，那是另一回事。
买价内啊，贵一点而已
你买一下就知道了。现在买特斯拉300的明年的call没问题。
没看懂，要买也买out of the money call，买in the money call干什么？
lz自己的脑洞，根本没根据...wsj说的是option周五到期，怎么解释今天Apple还涨回去了呢，而且孙买了实实在在的股票也有4billion
同意，这些都是狗咬狗，黑吃黑，都不是好鸟
Perhaps, more businesses making more commercial actiivities would use more energy especially oils, as they think!
But the world actually needs more indutriial activities, especially manufacturing better quality products catered for majority common people to do works for living!
Perhaps manufacturing of goods doesn''t make ideal returns quickly for the capital employed!
Imagine a new world consisting of people using merely software, without physical manufacturing properly? And this new world still expect and want everyone lives in peace - even wiithout eating variety of foods!
How dump! Isn''''t it?
SOFTbank:
Q The biggest backers of SoftBank''s $100 billion Vision Fund ... www.businessinsider.com › sai › clusterstock
Sep 16, 2019 - With Japanese conglomerate''s original $100 billion fund struggling with two of its highest profile investments, two of its biggest investors — Saudi Arabia''s Public Investment Fund and Abu Dhabi''s Mubadala Investment — are re-evaluating how much money they''ll put into a planned follow-on fund, Bloomberg reported Monday ...
2019年9月16日-随着日本企业集团最初的1000亿美元资金在其两项最引人注目的投资中挣扎，其两名最大的投资者-沙特阿拉伯的Public Investment Fund和阿布扎比的Mubadala Investment-进行了重新调整 彭博社周一报道称，正在评估他们将向计划中的后续基金投入多少资金...
UQ
他们认为，也许更多的企业开展更多的商业活动会消耗更多的能源，尤其是石油。
但是，世界实际上需要更多的工业活动，尤其是制造出质量更高的产品，以满足大多数老百姓的生活！
也许商品制造不能为所用资本带来理想的回报！
想象一下一个新世界，其中包括仅使用软件而没有实际制造的人？ 这个新世界仍然期望并希望每个人都和平相处-即使不吃各种食物！
怎么悲伤！ 是不是
你有孙正义的trade history？科技股和对冲的期权。买了多少，什么时间什么价格买的，什么时间close的，都不知道，你怎么知道他对冲被玩完了。
你说的道理是对的
没有别的国家比德日更爱自己的制造业了，但是仅凭制造业是打不过金融逐利垄断财阀的战略攻击的，所以日本在战后牺牲自己的制造业像牺牲自己的热血亲儿子一样聚集资金加入金融战役的过程是壮烈而惨痛的，有个日本女作家把这一时期包括一些著名事件和真实人物记录下来写成了巨著，并且在日本反拍了三次都热此不疲。有位金融巨人的相当有出息的长子是真的为此自杀，是真的因为热血
日德基本上是限制国内的金融业保护本国的制造业发展环境，但是积极参加国际金融战，这个战略是对的，也是不得不为之的一种自保。
就像孙正义的大部分投资都是实体经济，他是的确有vision 的，是想搞一些行业革命的，但是挡不住花姐各种方式在背后拆台，只好在金融上正面迎击了
我是这么理解的
据说赔了，相当于把前期赚的吐出来了一部分
" 就像孙正义的大部分投资都是实体经济，他是的确有vision 的，是想搞一些行业革命的，但是挡不住花姐各种方式在背后拆台，只好在金融上正面迎击了"
Looks like he wanted to prove he can do well in speculating big this time! Perhaps he could try again later! 看起来他想证明自己这次可以很好地进行大投机！ 也许他可以稍后再试！
哈哈哈哈
股市小白同学，1800这是in-the-money call，你说的2000以上是out-the-money call，多读点书吧。
Softbank declined comment on a Financial Times story that quoted unnamed sources who said it was buying equity derivatives on a massive scale. Rumors had circulated in the market that there were large players behind the frenzied activity in the options market for big tech and internet stocks, and SoftBank was one named mentioned in connection with extreme volumes in some out-of-the-money calls. UQ
原来你只是这种水平啊
文章对最近股市特别是科技股连续暴涨分析可能的原因，没说是做套孙正义。
股票被期权交易反作用，震幅放大。
既然投资股市，遇事理性些有益无害。
楼主这贴我琢磨了两天，孙正义是赌股票持有者舍不得行权，哪怕赎回自己卖出的call也不让孙正义call走，或者赌卖方是投机，自己没有股票在裸卖？很难想象这样资金量上的纯赌博。
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Q Cboe Market Summary for Friday, September 4, 2020
https://markets.cboe.com/us/options/market_statistics/daily/ SUM OF ALL PRODUCTS CALL PUT TOTAL VOLUME 3,418,879 3,520,101 6,938,980 OPEN INTEREST206,647,587 177,717,580 384,365,167 UQ
Jason Goepfert, president of Sundial Capital Research, says that while SoftBank may be the biggest player, it can’t be just one firm whipping up markets. Small day traders have spent $40 billion in call premiums in a month, data he compiled from the Options Clearing Corp. show. That’s a hefty amount for retail investors to be wielding and dwarfs what SoftBank is reported to have spent. Sundial Capital Research总裁杰森·戈普弗特（Jason Goepfert）表示，尽管软银可能是最大的参与者，但它并不仅仅是一家鞭打市场的公司。 他从期权结算公司（Options Clearing Corp.）收集的数据显示，小型日间交易员一个月内花费了400亿美元的看涨期权。 对于散户投资者来说，这是一笔巨额资金，这使软银据报道的支出相形见.. 。 彭博社8月份报道称，软银公司正在使用不需要公开文件的结构来筹集Faang集团的股份。 《华尔街日报》和《金融时报》周五报道，软银购买价值数十亿美元股票的看涨期权，放大了今年夏天科技公司的涨势。
“Softbank as a call buyer makes sense, as does the underlying buying it generates. But trades less than 10 contracts swamped the rumored Softbank buys, so clearly others were trying to tag along for the ride,” Goepfert said. “Not sure why now versus other years, other than stay-at-home boredom. Maybe the retail crowd saw this as their last, best change to get rich quick.” “作为买入期权的买方，软银及其产生的基础购买也很有意义。 但交易少于10张合约，充斥了传闻中的软银购买，因此很明显其他公司正试图加价。” Goepfert说。 “不知道为什么现在和其他年份相比，全神贯注。 也许零售人群将这视为他们最后的，最好的改变，以快速致富。”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-05/huge-swings-in-options-overrun-stocks-leave-fund-manager-baffled? UQ
反正就是神仙打架了，凡人估计跟着遭殃。等打完了应该就好了。
所以暗示纳指还会接着往下掉为了搞那剩下的40亿？这就有点假了吧