然而在黑人眼里，Asian跟白人一样是 privileged ，NYC 要取消特殊高中的提议，就是因为学校里Asian学生太多。黑人上台，Asian一样是被打击的对象，至于是不是比白人当政好点，还真不好说。我举的那个例子，是滥打race牌的例子，it could happen to anybody at any time。 purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 13:14
就是这样的。他们不说，很多亚洲小孩从小就是在贫困家庭生长。家里nickle and dimes省钱让他们上学习班，而不是去买sneakers。 These are life choices not privileges.
我反对种族歧视，但是我认为BLM和D党走得太过了。 我们公司也搞了反种族歧视的training，请了一个挺有名的activist，白人老太太。 她说这个种族歧视是无处不在的，从小被洗脑的。 有个同事问：What if I''''m white and male and NOT a racist？ 她的回答：不可能，你肯定。凡是在美国长大的受教育的white male，没有人不是。 那她自己呢？不是在美国长大的受教育的？受同样的教育，white female就天然不是racist？ 逻辑不自洽还算小事，这种"我说你有罪你就有罪"的态度是正常的吗？不可怕吗？"只要你是white male就是racist"，这种说法本身难道不是种族歧视？ 她还说所有的教科书都需要重写，因为每一页都是歧视，包括小学数学书。。。所以，1+1=2也是歧视？不歧视的时候1+1=3？ 我不明白这样的training的意义是什么？BLM和D党是想干嘛？to force everyone to vote for Trump??????
然而在黑人眼里，Asian跟白人一样是 privileged ，NYC 要取消特殊高中的提议，就是因为学校里Asian学生太多。黑人上台，Asian一样是被打击的对象，至于是不是比白人当政好点，还真不好说。我举的那个例子，是滥打race牌的例子，it could happen to anybody at any time。 purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 13:14
我的第一个老板，家里是台山移民，在法拉盛开个小窗口卖盒饭，他小小年纪就开始帮家里做炸鸡，一家四口挤一个房间里住。然而，他们支持他读书，他考上了特殊高中，进了MIT，走进了金融业，彻底改写了自己的人生。这样的例子在BLM眼里都是视而不见的，你不是黑人，那你就是 privileged ，哪怕你来自 low income family。 purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 13:31
我前天看Tim Scott的演讲。他爷爷三年级被迫离开学校去摘棉花。当时segregation,对面走过是白人都需要过马路的。当时他妈妈一天工作16小时供他上学。他在高中一年级fail了4门课。他妈妈说，you shoot for the moon, even if you fail, you will become one of the stars. 后来他的爷爷在有生之年看到自己的孙子做了congressman then senator. 我有一次和一个liberal争论，那个人说，Tim Scott is a token minority senator. 我说，this was literally the most racist words I've heard today. Tim Scott前天晚上说，"in primary, i competed with other white GOP candidates for the seat. The vastly majority white voters voted for me." (I paraphrase.) To me, this is the American dream. The American spirit. I'm a #walkaway, but if one day the GOP returns to what the dems are doing today, I will walk away from them without hesitance either.
我前天看Tim Scott的演讲。他爷爷三年级被迫离开学校去摘棉花。当时segregation,对面走过是白人都需要过马路的。当时他妈妈一天工作16小时供他上学。他在高中一年级fail了4门课。他妈妈说，you shoot for the moon, even if you fail, you will become one of the stars. 后来他的爷爷在有生之年看到自己的孙子做了congressman then senator. 我有一次和一个liberal争论，那个人说，Tim Scott is a token minority senator. 我说，this was literally the most racist words I've heard today. Tim Scott前天晚上说，"in primary, i competed with other white GOP candidates for the seat. The vastly majority white voters voted for me." (I paraphrase.) To me, this is the American dream. The American spirit. I'm a #walkaway, but if one day the GOP returns to what the dems are doing today, I will walk away from them without hesitance either. Caffeine 发表于 2020-08-26 13:41
Tim Scott现在主导的Police Reform的法案，被民主党当作token。。。 共和党和正常的中间派可没有把他当token。
我反对种族歧视，但是我认为BLM和D党走得太过了。 我们公司也搞了反种族歧视的training，请了一个挺有名的activist，白人老太太。 她说这个种族歧视是无处不在的，从小被洗脑的。 有个同事问：What if I''''m white and male and NOT a racist？ 她的回答：不可能，你肯定。凡是在美国长大的受教育的white male，没有人不是。 那她自己呢？不是在美国长大的受教育的？受同样的教育，white female就天然不是racist？ 逻辑不自洽还算小事，这种"我说你有罪你就有罪"的态度是正常的吗？不可怕吗？"只要你是white male就是racist"，这种说法本身难道不是种族歧视？ 她还说所有的教科书都需要重写，因为每一页都是歧视，包括小学数学书。。。所以，1+1=2也是歧视？不歧视的时候1+1=3？ 我不明白这样的training的意义是什么？BLM和D党是想干嘛？to force everyone to vote for Trump??????
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 10:35
oh my good.. 是不是那个 Robin Diangelo 写 white fragility 的 这个人本人是个racist 她要求所有人承认自己是 racist, 否则你就是 too fragile to admit... 这个太恐怖了 这个以后是会有law suit 的
能不能发给我。。。谢谢！我看了white fragility的kindle免费章节。。。觉得可扯淡了。。。鼓吹identity politics is a necessity。exe me？！？ MegMegMeg 发表于 2020-08-26 15:40
A doctrine of black supremacy is as dangerous as a doctrine of white supremacy. God is not interested in the freedom of black men or brown men or yellow men. God is interested in the freedom of the whole human race, the creation of a society where every man will respect the dignity and worth of personality. — Martin Luther King, Jr., Speech at the Southern Methodist University, March 17, 1966. 这就是为什么MLK真伟大，他是真正跳出自己肤色有大格局大智慧的人
A doctrine of black supremacy is as dangerous as a doctrine of white supremacy. God is not interested in the freedom of black men or brown men or yellow men. God is interested in the freedom of the whole human race, the creation of a society where every man will respect the dignity and worth of personality. — Martin Luther King, Jr., Speech at the Southern Methodist University, March 17, 1966. 这就是为什么MLK真伟大，他是真正跳出自己肤色有大格局大智慧的人 purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 15:47
Frederick Douglass也是。我刚看了他的biography。 但是他最后也被一些黑人骂acting white. 挺遗憾的。
我反对种族歧视，但是我认为BLM和D党走得太过了。 我们公司也搞了反种族歧视的training，请了一个挺有名的activist，白人老太太。 她说这个种族歧视是无处不在的，从小被洗脑的。 有个同事问：What if I''''m white and male and NOT a racist？ 她的回答：不可能，你肯定。凡是在美国长大的受教育的white male，没有人不是。 那她自己呢？不是在美国长大的受教育的？受同样的教育，white female就天然不是racist？ 逻辑不自洽还算小事，这种"我说你有罪你就有罪"的态度是正常的吗？不可怕吗？"只要你是white male就是racist"，这种说法本身难道不是种族歧视？ 她还说所有的教科书都需要重写，因为每一页都是歧视，包括小学数学书。。。所以，1+1=2也是歧视？不歧视的时候1+1=3？ 我不明白这样的training的意义是什么？BLM和D党是想干嘛？to force everyone to vote for Trump??????
黑人社区的问题不是穷，而是没有父亲。75% black kids are born fatherless. It was 25% before the welfare system was in place in the 60s. In other words, the current welfare system incentives black men to avoid their family responsibilities. 但是主党是不会承认这点的。
系统提示：若遇到视频无法播放请点击下方链接 https://www.youtube.com/embed/rIx7_VoXRFY A demonstration that began Monday evening in the District to protest the shooting of a Black man in Wisconsin wound its way through two of the city’s entertainment districts, targeting diners in a tactic that has triggered backlash online. The crowd of protesters confronted a woman seated at a table outside a restaurant on 18th Street NW in Adams Morgan and demanded that she raise her fist in a show of solidarity. “White silence is violence!” protesters chanted, many with fists in the air. “Are you a Christian?” a protester demanded, yelling into her face. But the woman, Lauren B. Victor, refused, even after her dining companion complied. “I felt like I was under attack,” Victor, 49, an urban planner and photographer who lives in the District, said in an interview afterward. Footage of the incident went viral. The Black Lives Matter rally, which began about 6:30 p.m. Monday at Columbia Heights Civic Plaza on 14th Street NW, drew several hundred people. They engaged in a call-and-response as protest organizers with bullhorns told how Kenosha, Wis., police had shot and critically injured Jacob Blake. The police shooting, which is still under investigation, has reinvigorated protests against police violence and triggered outbreaks of rioting. In D.C., however, protesters wound their way up 14th Street, chanting, “No Justice, No Peace,” and, “Fire, fire, gentrifier — Black people used to live here.” Near Quincy Street, the crowd gathered outside restaurants, alternately accusing diners of enjoying “White privilege” and encouraging them to show support. At one table, a young man who objected to the intrusion tried to explain that he worked for a nonprofit organization committed to addressing mental health care for Black people and other underserved populations. Protesters crowded in further around the table, shining video lights in the diners’ eyes and exchanging angry words. The marchers, now about 150 strong, wound their way to Adams Morgan without further incident. On Columbia Road, a young Black woman who was leading the protest explained the importance of engaging White people in the struggle for justice and encouraged White protesters to take the lead in confronting diners on 18th Street NW. Several diners at other tables went along, standing or raising their fists, until the crowd homed in on Victor and her companion in front of Los Cuates, a Mexican restaurant. “I wasn’t actually frightened,” Victor said. Victor said she was a supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement and had marched in previous demonstrations. But Victor said she also felt that it was wrong for hundreds of people to surround a small group of diners, approach them with their hands raised, and try to cow them into making a show of support. “It just felt overwhelming to have all of those people come at you. To have a crowd — with all that energy — demand that you do this thing. In the moment it didn’t feel right,” Victor said. “They like to think because I raise my fist it means something or other.” As the crowd moved on, Chuck Modiano continued to yell at Victor. “Good for you — you stood your ground,” Modiano said, demanding to know if she had seen the video of Blake’s shooting. “We’re not going to change this [expletive] for people like you.” Modiano, who identified himself as a “citizen journalist” who writes for Deadspin, said he wanted to understand her resistance. “What was in you that you just couldn’t do this?” Modiano asked. “They all did — all the other tables. You were literally the only one of 20 other people. So there was something in you that was different from all the other people.” Victor explained that she just felt coerced and somewhat threatened — although she also said she wasn’t afraid. “I didn’t think anyone was actually going to do anything to me. I appreciate their anger,” she said in an interview. “On one level, my best guess was no one was going to hurt me. But those things turn on a dime.”
黑人社区的问题不是穷，而是没有父亲。75% black kids are born fatherless. It was 25% before the welfare system was in place in the 60s. In other words, the current welfare system incentives black men to avoid their family responsibilities. 但是主党是不会承认这点的。
黑人社区的问题不是穷，而是没有父亲。75% black kids are born fatherless. It was 25% before the welfare system was in place in the 60s. In other words, the current welfare system incentives black men to avoid their family responsibilities. 但是主党是不会承认这点的。
系统提示：若遇到视频无法播放请点击下方链接 https://www.youtube.com/embed/rIx7_VoXRFY A demonstration that began Monday evening in the District to protest the shooting of a Black man in Wisconsin wound its way through two of the city’s entertainment districts, targeting diners in a tactic that has triggered backlash online. The crowd of protesters confronted a woman seated at a table outside a restaurant on 18th Street NW in Adams Morgan and demanded that she raise her fist in a show of solidarity. “White silence is violence!” protesters chanted, many with fists in the air. “Are you a Christian?” a protester demanded, yelling into her face. But the woman, Lauren B. Victor, refused, even after her dining companion complied. “I felt like I was under attack,” Victor, 49, an urban planner and photographer who lives in the District, said in an interview afterward. Footage of the incident went viral. The Black Lives Matter rally, which began about 6:30 p.m. Monday at Columbia Heights Civic Plaza on 14th Street NW, drew several hundred people. They engaged in a call-and-response as protest organizers with bullhorns told how Kenosha, Wis., police had shot and critically injured Jacob Blake. The police shooting, which is still under investigation, has reinvigorated protests against police violence and triggered outbreaks of rioting. In D.C., however, protesters wound their way up 14th Street, chanting, “No Justice, No Peace,” and, “Fire, fire, gentrifier — Black people used to live here.” Near Quincy Street, the crowd gathered outside restaurants, alternately accusing diners of enjoying “White privilege” and encouraging them to show support. At one table, a young man who objected to the intrusion tried to explain that he worked for a nonprofit organization committed to addressing mental health care for Black people and other underserved populations. Protesters crowded in further around the table, shining video lights in the diners’ eyes and exchanging angry words. The marchers, now about 150 strong, wound their way to Adams Morgan without further incident. On Columbia Road, a young Black woman who was leading the protest explained the importance of engaging White people in the struggle for justice and encouraged White protesters to take the lead in confronting diners on 18th Street NW. Several diners at other tables went along, standing or raising their fists, until the crowd homed in on Victor and her companion in front of Los Cuates, a Mexican restaurant. “I wasn’t actually frightened,” Victor said. Victor said she was a supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement and had marched in previous demonstrations. But Victor said she also felt that it was wrong for hundreds of people to surround a small group of diners, approach them with their hands raised, and try to cow them into making a show of support. “It just felt overwhelming to have all of those people come at you. To have a crowd — with all that energy — demand that you do this thing. In the moment it didn’t feel right,” Victor said. “They like to think because I raise my fist it means something or other.” As the crowd moved on, Chuck Modiano continued to yell at Victor. “Good for you — you stood your ground,” Modiano said, demanding to know if she had seen the video of Blake’s shooting. “We’re not going to change this [expletive] for people like you.” Modiano, who identified himself as a “citizen journalist” who writes for Deadspin, said he wanted to understand her resistance. “What was in you that you just couldn’t do this?” Modiano asked. “They all did — all the other tables. You were literally the only one of 20 other people. So there was something in you that was different from all the other people.” Victor explained that she just felt coerced and somewhat threatened — although she also said she wasn’t afraid. “I didn’t think anyone was actually going to do anything to me. I appreciate their anger,” she said in an interview. “On one level, my best guess was no one was going to hurt me. But those things turn on a dime.”
https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/igwtpt/protesters_target_dc_diners_triggering_backlash/ 有当时在场的人的描述 Ugh this was a hot mess. This may have been the other group or potentially this one - but we were eating on the patio of Oyamel and they were literally itching to start a physical altercation. Really left a very bad flavor in my mouth about the message they were trying to send. They demanded we do what we were told, and the 20 of us diners (a mix of black, white, gay, and elderly) partake with them - and that we were elitist gentrifiers only seeking to further the demoralization of the community and culture because we were eating dinner. Most of what the ''leader'' said was complete nonsense. It just really shook me that this is D.C. most if not all of us are on board with the general message - but to attack us as if we arent was nuts. I''m most upset that her/this group had no idea what our beliefs are. Just yelling, brashness, while having a mob mentality that she could do what she wanted since ther were 20 of us and 100 of them. Anyhow, if you want more details of what went down let me know and I can write them out. -------------------------- This has happened to me on 14th St. several times over the last few months. Protestors demand you repeat what they say and then aggressively yell "White Silence is Violence" to intimidate you if you do not comply.
我反对种族歧视，但是我认为BLM和D党走得太过了。 我们公司也搞了反种族歧视的training，请了一个挺有名的activist，白人老太太。 她说这个种族歧视是无处不在的，从小被洗脑的。 有个同事问：What if I''''m white and male and NOT a racist？ 她的回答：不可能，你肯定。凡是在美国长大的受教育的white male，没有人不是。 那她自己呢？不是在美国长大的受教育的？受同样的教育，white female就天然不是racist？ 逻辑不自洽还算小事，这种"我说你有罪你就有罪"的态度是正常的吗？不可怕吗？"只要你是white male就是racist"，这种说法本身难道不是种族歧视？ 她还说所有的教科书都需要重写，因为每一页都是歧视，包括小学数学书。。。所以，1+1=2也是歧视？不歧视的时候1+1=3？ 我不明白这样的training的意义是什么？BLM和D党是想干嘛？to force everyone to vote for Trump??????
就是这样的。他们不说，很多亚洲小孩从小就是在贫困家庭生长。家里nickle and dimes省钱让他们上学习班，而不是去买sneakers。 These are life choices not privileges.
您看看我的注册时间，16年前的事儿了，估计您已经不记得我了，最近忽然在一个索南网上见人提到您的大名，真是沧海桑田，造化弄人啊。。。
LZ支持你一下，现在连华人都乌烟障气没法好好说话。 美国走到今天真是前所未有的分裂，两个候选人就不用提了，他们各自后面代表的集团什么样的走势都看不懂了。 也不知道美国的精英们怎么回事。
我的第一个老板，家里是台山移民，在法拉盛开个小窗口卖盒饭，他小小年纪就开始帮家里做炸鸡，一家四口挤一个房间里住。然而，他们支持他读书，他考上了特殊高中，进了MIT，走进了金融业，彻底改写了自己的人生。这样的例子在BLM眼里都是视而不见的，你不是黑人，那你就是 privileged ，哪怕你来自 low income family。
现在这老太太，是6070年代那帮精神不正常的白左。现在BLM比起当年左派闹的事情可差远了。当年左派可是能闹事闹到把美国整崩溃。
不光在黑人眼里，在很多华人眼里也是一样，觉得Asian无限靠近白人，是 privileged。 我不同意你那个trainer说的，白男都是racist，但是白男有没有racist和华人从哪边能多拿点好处这是两回事。总不能说华人能从白男那里拿点好处所以我们不care他们是不是racist吧？英国人殖民期间对印度人也挺不错的。模范移民乖乖纳税，没有政治和经济企图，所以有点好处。这种局面能维持多久谁知道呢。
斯德哥尔摩综合症吗，求关注求骂求虐？还是不会用黑名单，我拉黑你，你自便。
我前天看Tim Scott的演讲。他爷爷三年级被迫离开学校去摘棉花。当时segregation,对面走过是白人都需要过马路的。当时他妈妈一天工作16小时供他上学。他在高中一年级fail了4门课。他妈妈说，you shoot for the moon, even if you fail, you will become one of the stars. 后来他的爷爷在有生之年看到自己的孙子做了congressman then senator. 我有一次和一个liberal争论，那个人说，Tim Scott is a token minority senator. 我说，this was literally the most racist words I've heard today.
Tim Scott前天晚上说，"in primary, i competed with other white GOP candidates for the seat. The vastly majority white voters voted for me." (I paraphrase.)
To me, this is the American dream. The American spirit.
I'm a #walkaway, but if one day the GOP returns to what the dems are doing today, I will walk away from them without hesitance either.
哈哈！
Tim Scott现在主导的Police Reform的法案，被民主党当作token。。。
共和党和正常的中间派可没有把他当token。
你帮助？扯，你觉得你去帮忙做个义工在别人眼里就不是了么？我ID新怎么了，我上学的时候你可能还在你妈怀里吃奶呢。
你有逻辑么？你连华人的问题都不清楚，还这个racist，那个白男。你懂个屁。不要觉得自己做个义工，帮助过你几个黑人或者拉丁裔，你在blm眼里就比白男强。没人攻击你，我又不认识你。反对你的观点不行么？哦，怎么，只允许你发表观点，不允许其它人反对。
至于说政治化就更扯淡了，你说的本身就是一个政治的东西，什么时候race和政治没有关系了？车轱辘？你这就这个智商了。对，这个可以算人身攻击。
填华裔也是民主党搞出来的事情吧
oh my good.. 是不是那个 Robin Diangelo 写 white fragility 的
这个人本人是个racist 她要求所有人承认自己是 racist, 否则你就是 too fragile to admit...
这个太恐怖了 这个以后是会有law suit 的
能不能发给我。。。谢谢！我看了white fragility的kindle免费章节。。。觉得可扯淡了。。。鼓吹identity politics is a necessity。exe me？！？
这本书还真是training上被推荐的阅读教材，大家都要educate自己，反思自己内心的丑恶。。。我们是另外一个老太太，80多岁了，所以我只好善良地认为她是老糊涂了，脑子还停留在pre-MLK的年代。
A doctrine of black supremacy is as dangerous as a doctrine of white supremacy. God is not interested in the freedom of black men or brown men or yellow men. God is interested in the freedom of the whole human race, the creation of a society where every man will respect the dignity and worth of personality. — Martin Luther King, Jr., Speech at the Southern Methodist University, March 17, 1966.
这就是为什么MLK真伟大，他是真正跳出自己肤色有大格局大智慧的人
Frederick Douglass也是。我刚看了他的biography。 但是他最后也被一些黑人骂acting white. 挺遗憾的。
猪党想要效仿共党，他们这些都是新时代有美国特色的的愚民政策。
做梦！
以前文革的时候买东西都先说语录吧？ 美国可以学起来。顾客：black life matter! 汉堡包🍔一份，谢谢。小二： No justice no peace, 喝点什么？
😂😂
不知道我如果背诵上面MLK关于black supremacy的那些话会是什么效果？
说真的，造目前的发展趋势，不是梦。说起来好笑，主党现在搞得那一套对比文革都能找到参照物，而华左拼命否认。美左是没见识过那一套的危害性，就不去说了
问题上川黑们觉得没什么问题？这才是最大的问题！
黑人自己都被民主党出卖，去看被黑人打死的黑人，被民主党统治的黑人社区，你还真以为他们说爱就真爱啊
太有才了！
BLM不要说亚裔贫困家庭出来的，连黑人中优秀的都被开除出去了。 记得看过篇文章说，黑人社区这么烂的一个原因是种族隔离的取消。优秀的黑人完全脱离黑人社区，住到中产区，跟其他民族融合了。剩下来的是比较差的，又没有了role model，恶性循环了。种族隔离时期，优秀黑人被迫待在黑人社区里能起到带头和改善社区作用。 你老板的例子，他父母是支持读书的。黑人里面大量单亲家庭，小孩怎么可能学得好...
其实中产黑人家庭还是很不错的。我儿子上私立，班上有个黑人小姑娘，她的期末 presentation 是全班做的最讲究的，一看就是爸爸妈妈帮了很多忙。
可是那些低收入的黑人家庭怎么办呢？
绝对的公平只能通过激进的共产主义实现：小孩生下来以后就被抱走，集中起来一起养，大家都无父无母无遗产。逻辑上是很说得通的。
知道文革就不会觉得奇怪了。必然的走向。
点赞，而且救济根本没解决任何问题，各种diversity quota基本被有钱有势的美国黑人或者外国黑人占了。没钱的黑人怎么上大学？当CEO？小学都毕业不了。
no no no D也承认这个没有爸爸的问题，不过是从另外一个角度：如果一个孩子父母双全，那么他就是 privileged ，要给没有爸爸的孩子让路 你看看，D实现社会公平的办法就是把大家都一起拉低，而不是一起抬高
就是共產黨文革搞的那套。稍微知道點中共國歷史的人就知道。
戈壁的美国通会表示凡是联想到文革的都是中国心没有蜕光的土冒。 我们也可以看看美国人怎么看这件事： https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/igwtpt/protesters_target_dc_diners_triggering_backlash/
有当时在场的人的描述
Ugh this was a hot mess. This may have been the other group or potentially this one - but we were eating on the patio of Oyamel and they were literally itching to start a physical altercation. Really left a very bad flavor in my mouth about the message they were trying to send. They demanded we do what we were told, and the 20 of us diners (a mix of black, white, gay, and elderly) partake with them - and that we were elitist gentrifiers only seeking to further the demoralization of the community and culture because we were eating dinner. Most of what the ''leader'' said was complete nonsense. It just really shook me that this is D.C. most if not all of us are on board with the general message - but to attack us as if we arent was nuts. I''m most upset that her/this group had no idea what our beliefs are. Just yelling, brashness, while having a mob mentality that she could do what she wanted since ther were 20 of us and 100 of them. Anyhow, if you want more details of what went down let me know and I can write them out.
-------------------------- This has happened to me on 14th St. several times over the last few months. Protestors demand you repeat what they say and then aggressively yell "White Silence is Violence" to intimidate you if you do not comply.
楼主有反驳她吗
那你就想多了，黑人争取的这些所谓不公，最终会从华人身上找补回来
没法同意更多，极左和极右其实都很自私极端，听不进去别人的声音
国内对那段历史就没有反省过，造成某些华人一种错觉。同样是其它社会主义国家来的脑子就很清醒
所以美国教育系统需要反思反思一下自己了！特别是中学大学的教师们！
懒得找被引用的贴，想到芮成钢之余，也不知道啥脑回路能把暴动和为华人争权关联起来。
看现在的情形，选川谱大情形不会错！应该是中国政府想着白登上台好对付美国，白登自己没有能力且老年痴呆，更要命的是小辫子被掌握，不会象川谱这么难对付。所以华人网上乌央乌央的新lD跳出来各种带节奏不要选川谱。
那没办法，左媒当道，中间派已成哑巴。
应该是共和党比民主党好。大多数华人也都不喜欢川谱说中国病毒，但是能投票的华人已经扎根在美国了，为了美国的明天或者为了我们自己的将来孩子们的未来生活，我们应该投川谱。我们是为了自己，不是什么川粉川黑的。这里好好说话太难了，有的ID任何帖都能分分秒秒挑战到吵架！
Keep dreaming. 没注意到民主党的minorities不包括亚裔，甚至黑人里靠自己努力成功的conservative。
trump肯定是不能选的，这个人太恐怖了，他是摆在明面上的不在乎华人是否因为他的言论是死还是活的。定向一个弱势族群，知道这个族群根本不能把他怎样，可以随便bully。他是精明的坏，而且反智。 BLM运动带来的这些也很恐怖。可你要说是民主党搞的，我觉得难道民主党是idiot吗？不知道这样会把选民推向另一边吗？对他们一点好处没有啊？那谁是受益的？要说背后没有人谁信？ 另外，民主党的一些政策也是很恶心的。关键还是这个：华人这个族群是一个弱势族群，加上投票积极性不高，又窝里斗，别人不care你不是自然而然的事情？ 所以，我觉得最好的是，trump不能再继续当了，这个人的chinese virus够吓人了。虽然他很大程度上不能算是极右，应该算是个投机分子，但是他有相当一部分极右的基本盘，这个也是要命的。尤其现在盯着疫情甩锅，一遍遍的china virus。 民主党也需要制衡，所以可以在其他的位置选给共和党。支持共和党没问题，就是不能选trump继续当总统。
养蛊自噬， 你觉得一开始nancy pelocy不想和极左切割？ 她一开始就很不买aoc四人帮的帐。 说他们是极少数，无知， 不代表民主党。 但是因为整个主党都是走的政治正确的路子， 极左的口号都高大上的紧，一直是民主党自己用来攻击共和党的利器。现在要站出来切割的话，自己打脸， 那些极左首先就会把主党自己的中间派给吃了， 人家是革命小将， 可没有什么大局观， 谁挡路就打倒谁， 包括本党建制派。 红卫兵那时候不就是革命首先要纯洁内部队伍么
觉得现在民主党中间派已经控制不了极左了， 所以选了kamala对极左妥协。 现在有希望搞定极左的， 只有新保守派， 大家去看看过去三天的共和党大会每个活生生的例子和发言， 那才代表了大多数美国人包括华人真正的感受。再留意一下本地nextdoor和facebook，风向开始变了， 越来越多人发声反对极左了。看了共和党大会的， 不会有人再觉得共和党是白人的党，是种族歧视者的聚合。新保守派摒弃了以往的白人为主的传统，团结了各少数族裔新移民， 和年轻人中有传统家庭观念， 工作价值观的正常人， 是目前和华人理念最契合的一个派别。
大家一起努力， 十一月投票， 赶走极左， 结束现在的乱象的神奇力量就在于我们手中的选票！
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是挺像的。
跟着学知识了！我和你持相同观点，我希望以后政策能改变，黑人应该启动家庭，教会，学校三种力量，真的建设黑人社区，只有他们自己努力才能平等，富裕和得到尊重！
我们持有的观点类似共和党，有共和党同胞来劝我们加入共和党，被我们拒绝了，不想结党，只要投票给我们认为对的人，自由，美国第一，现在我们打算投川谱，虽然他大嘴巴很讨厌，但是主党大媒体天天盯着他找碴，他不能随便乱干的！
我非常讨厌川普，然而被这次的暴乱吓得不得不捏着鼻子选川普。关于暴乱是否有作为受益者的川普站在后面，民主党是否其实是无辜背锅者，我一开始也有类似的怀疑。后来有两件事彻底打消了我的这种怀疑。
第一就是奥巴马关于暴乱的讲话，他的态度完全是在煽风点火，毫无平息事态的意愿。 第二是各地民主党州长市长对暴乱的态度。基本就是躺平，不让警察阻止暴乱者对于无辜商家的打砸抢；然后再喊几句你们不过是烧了个店人家Floyd可是丢了命、你们的商铺横竖有保险公司兜着之类的P话。
如果说川普才是幕后黑手，那么奥巴马和其他的主党官员难道都是给他助选来了？
对这场人类历史上的浩劫，影响了多少人的生活，连个来源都不能查，真的好吗？看来国内是怕了，最近外宣ID跳出来号召不要投老头的不少
如果白登上的话，估计就是这样BLM背语录了。
民主党不在乎华人已经到了几乎约定俗成。。。当然不需要接着大鸣大放了
我们这个红州小镇，最近感觉房地产明显热起来。因为疫情有一阵子没怎么出门，那天出门，原来的一大片荒地竟然盖起了一个小区。河边景色好的地方，盖起来几栋公寓楼。还有好几个地方都在大兴土木。这还是我能看到的地方。看来是有大量人口流入了。
你这么没头没脑的来一句，不知道你指的哪场浩劫？纳粹还是文革？ btw，你们总是这样把反对trump的人当作外宣，真的好吗？楼主说得很对，你们就是川卫兵。而且是被川普侮辱着还要替他战斗的川卫兵。trump就是一纳粹分子，period。
像trump大统领这样给华人拉仇恨的有吗？
你才是外宣，你才是五毛，你才是川粉，你才是。。。 扣帽子有意思吗？好好的看着楼里面各种不同意见的讨论，都是为了华人的利益考虑分析利弊，大家都可以受益，想想怎么选才对自己，自己关心的事有益。
你这种煽风点火的小丑，除了会扣帽子，还会什么？
看你跳脚的样子，拿块镜子照照理解一下小丑是神马样子吧
我还怕错怪你了，特地去看了一下你的记录，只能呵呵呵了。我一般不骂人，你要骂人，我奉陪