黑卫兵来啦!Protesters target D.C. diners, triggering backla

purplebasil
楼主 (北美华人网)
什么言论自由,什么沉默的权利,在黑卫兵眼里都是P。要你举手你就要举手,要你喊口号你就要喊口号,不革命就是反革命。什么叫 光明vs. 黑暗?这才是黑暗,这才是法西斯,这才是独裁。民主党不直面这个问题,只会把中间派都吓跑。(链结里面有视频)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/08/25/dc-protesters-blm-diner-confrontation/

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 A demonstration that began Monday evening in the District to protest the shooting of a Black man in Wisconsin wound its way through two of the city’s entertainment districts, targeting diners in a tactic that has triggered backlash online.
The crowd of protesters confronted a woman seated at a table outside a restaurant on 18th Street NW in Adams Morgan and demanded that she raise her fist in a show of solidarity.
“White silence is violence!” protesters chanted, many with fists in the air.
“Are you a Christian?” a protester demanded, yelling into her face.
But the woman, Lauren B. Victor, refused, even after her dining companion complied.
“I felt like I was under attack,” Victor, 49, an urban planner and photographer who lives in the District, said in an interview afterward. Footage of the incident went viral.
The Black Lives Matter rally, which began about 6:30 p.m. Monday at Columbia Heights Civic Plaza on 14th Street NW, drew several hundred people. They engaged in a call-and-response as protest organizers with bullhorns told how Kenosha, Wis., police had shot and critically injured Jacob Blake. The police shooting, which is still under investigation, has reinvigorated protests against police violence and triggered outbreaks of rioting.
In D.C., however, protesters wound their way up 14th Street, chanting, “No Justice, No Peace,” and, “Fire, fire, gentrifier — Black people used to live here.” Near Quincy Street, the crowd gathered outside restaurants, alternately accusing diners of enjoying “White privilege” and encouraging them to show support. At one table, a young man who objected to the intrusion tried to explain that he worked for a nonprofit organization committed to addressing mental health care for Black people and other underserved populations. Protesters crowded in further around the table, shining video lights in the diners’ eyes and exchanging angry words.
The marchers, now about 150 strong, wound their way to Adams Morgan without further incident.
On Columbia Road, a young Black woman who was leading the protest explained the importance of engaging White people in the struggle for justice and encouraged White protesters to take the lead in confronting diners on 18th Street NW. Several diners at other tables went along, standing or raising their fists, until the crowd homed in on Victor and her companion in front of Los Cuates, a Mexican restaurant.
“I wasn’t actually frightened,” Victor said.
Victor said she was a supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement and had marched in previous demonstrations. But Victor said she also felt that it was wrong for hundreds of people to surround a small group of diners, approach them with their hands raised, and try to cow them into making a show of support.
“It just felt overwhelming to have all of those people come at you. To have a crowd — with all that energy — demand that you do this thing. In the moment it didn’t feel right,” Victor said.
“They like to think because I raise my fist it means something or other.”
As the crowd moved on, Chuck Modiano continued to yell at Victor.
“Good for you — you stood your ground,” Modiano said, demanding to know if she had seen the video of Blake’s shooting. “We’re not going to change this [expletive] for people like you.”
Modiano, who identified himself as a “citizen journalist” who writes for Deadspin, said he wanted to understand her resistance.
“What was in you that you just couldn’t do this?” Modiano asked. “They all did — all the other tables. You were literally the only one of 20 other people. So there was something in you that was different from all the other people.”
Victor explained that she just felt coerced and somewhat threatened — although she also said she wasn’t afraid.
“I didn’t think anyone was actually going to do anything to me. I appreciate their anger,” she said in an interview. “On one level, my best guess was no one was going to hurt me. But those things turn on a dime.”

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Rockq
181 楼
你才是外宣,你才是五毛,你才是川粉,你才是。。。 扣帽子有意思吗?好好的看着楼里面各种不同意见的讨论,都是为了华人的利益考虑分析利弊,大家都可以受益,想想怎么选才对自己,自己关心的事有益。
你这种煽风点火的小丑,除了会扣帽子,还会什么?
lostmaple 发表于 2020-08-27 17:09

看你跳脚的样子,拿块镜子照照理解一下小丑是神马样子吧
我还怕错怪你了,特地去看了一下你的记录,只能呵呵呵了。我一般不骂人,你要骂人,我奉陪
a
atypia
180 楼
纽约就是这样 没救了
lostmaple
179 楼
对这场人类历史上的浩劫,影响了多少人的生活,连个来源都不能查,真的好吗?看来国内是怕了,最近外宣ID跳出来号召不要投老头的不少
Rockq 发表于 2020-08-27 11:06

你才是外宣,你才是五毛,你才是川粉,你才是。。。 扣帽子有意思吗?好好的看着楼里面各种不同意见的讨论,都是为了华人的利益考虑分析利弊,大家都可以受益,想想怎么选才对自己,自己关心的事有益。
你这种煽风点火的小丑,除了会扣帽子,还会什么?
danielkam
楼主应该贴视频呀 他们嚣张得很。。。
purplebasil
楼主应该贴视频呀 他们嚣张得很。。。
danielkam 发表于 2020-08-26 10:10


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purplebasil
posted the video
hofn
一群白人小青年
overpower
“不是左派打倒右派,就是右派打倒左派” 美国的黑人族群面对阶级和种族双重矛盾的情况下,采取剥削其他族群的利益来获得政治地位与经济利益。 当然,美国黑人本身就是美国剥削全球的受益者,所以他们不会反对资本家,只会打压其他族群。
angelina68
看看美国的教育系统多么糟糕,还有现在这些3C产品多害人。 这也就理解为什么川普的竞选总理回家去教育孩子了。现在这些年轻人会不会像60年代性解放了一样?
Cybercat
Washington Post 竟然报道了,真是太阳从西边出来了。纽约打砸抢的时候纽时硬是睁着眼睛说瞎话说Largely peaceful.
purplebasil
我反对种族歧视,但是我认为BLM和D党走得太过了。
我们公司也搞了反种族歧视的training,请了一个挺有名的activist,白人老太太。
她说这个种族歧视是无处不在的,从小被洗脑的。 有个同事问:What if I''''m white and male and NOT a racist? 她的回答:不可能,你肯定。凡是在美国长大的受教育的white male,没有人不是。 那她自己呢?不是在美国长大的受教育的?受同样的教育,white female就天然不是racist? 逻辑不自洽还算小事,这种"我说你有罪你就有罪"的态度是正常的吗?不可怕吗?"只要你是white male就是racist",这种说法本身难道不是种族歧视?
她还说所有的教科书都需要重写,因为每一页都是歧视,包括小学数学书。。。所以,1+1=2也是歧视?不歧视的时候1+1=3?
我不明白这样的training的意义是什么?BLM和D党是想干嘛?to force everyone to vote for Trump??????
purplebasil
Washington Post 竟然报道了,真是太阳从西边出来了。纽约打砸抢的时候纽时硬是睁着眼睛说瞎话说Largely peaceful.
Cybercat 发表于 2020-08-26 10:31

纽约的新闻要看 New York Post,算是比较中立的,什么事都报道,New York Times 倾向性太强了。
hofn
我反对种族歧视,但是我认为BLM和D党走得太过了。
我们公司也搞了反种族歧视的training,请了一个挺有名的activist,白人老太太。
她说这个种族歧视是无处不在的,从小被洗脑的。 有个同事问:What if I''m white and male and NOT a racist? 她的回答:不可能,你肯定。凡是在美国长大的受教育的,没有人不是。 那她自己呢?不是在美国长大的受教育的? 逻辑不自洽还算小事,这种"我说你有罪你就有罪"的态度是正常的吗?不可怕吗?
她还说所有的教科书都需要重写,因为每一页都是歧视,包括小学数学书。。。所以,1+1=2也是歧视?不歧视的时候1+1=3?
我不明白这样的training的意义是什么?BLM和D党是想干嘛?to force everyone to vote for Trump??????

purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 10:35

我们公司请了MLK的女儿来讲话,QA的时候,有个胆大的提问,说大多数人对现在的change有恐惧感怎么办,她wow了半天也没说出个所以然。
purplebasil
我们公司请了MLK的女儿来讲话,QA的时候,有个胆大的提问,说大多数人对现在的change有恐惧感怎么办,她wow了半天也没说出个所以然。
hofn 发表于 2020-08-26 10:44

而他们left的说的做的,完全justify了大家的恐惧,这个恐惧不是Trump散布的,是left他们自己一手造成的。我听完training以后,感到前所未有的恐惧。
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dandan2012
世道真够乱的,中国共产主义红卫兵那套怎么都跑到美国来了,难道这帮人都转世投胎到美国了
purplebasil
世道真够乱的,中国共产主义红卫兵那套怎么都跑到美国来了,难道这帮人都转世投胎到美国了
dandan2012 发表于 2020-08-26 10:51

他们要 solidarity,却不知道 solidarity can never be forced.
m
monmon
我反对种族歧视,但是我认为BLM和D党走得太过了。
我们公司也搞了反种族歧视的training,请了一个挺有名的activist,白人老太太。
她说这个种族歧视是无处不在的,从小被洗脑的。 有个同事问:What if I''''''''''''''''m white and male and NOT a racist? 她的回答:不可能,你肯定。凡是在美国长大的受教育的white male,没有人不是。 那她自己呢?不是在美国长大的受教育的?受同样的教育,white female就天然不是racist? 逻辑不自洽还算小事,这种"我说你有罪你就有罪"的态度是正常的吗?不可怕吗?"只要你是white male就是racist",这种说法本身难道不是种族歧视?
她还说所有的教科书都需要重写,因为每一页都是歧视,包括小学数学书。。。所以,1+1=2也是歧视?不歧视的时候1+1=3?
我不明白这样的training的意义是什么?BLM和D党是想干嘛?to force everyone to vote for Trump??????

purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 10:35

trump就是大嘴而已,他骂中国virus也让人不舒服,但是他的政纲非常不错,建议你看看那些RNC CONVENTION commercials。no shame to vote for trump
宫迷
YouTube把评论关闭了
ConnieBear
而他们left的说的做的,完全justify了大家的恐惧,这个恐惧不是Trump散布的,是left他们自己一手造成的。我听完training以后,感到前所未有的恐惧。
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 10:51

枪支销售史上最高吧。
mayelang
trump就是大嘴而已,他骂中国virus也让人不舒服,但是他的政纲非常不错,建议你看看那些RNC CONVENTION commercials。no shame to vote for trump
monmon 发表于 2020-08-26 11:09

进步人士是怎么做到同时认为说china virus是racist但是说russian bounty是patriot的
bigjohn123456
我反对种族歧视,但是我认为BLM和D党走得太过了。
我们公司也搞了反种族歧视的training,请了一个挺有名的activist,白人老太太。
她说这个种族歧视是无处不在的,从小被洗脑的。 有个同事问:What if I''''m white and male and NOT a racist? 她的回答:不可能,你肯定。凡是在美国长大的受教育的white male,没有人不是。 那她自己呢?不是在美国长大的受教育的?受同样的教育,white female就天然不是racist? 逻辑不自洽还算小事,这种"我说你有罪你就有罪"的态度是正常的吗?不可怕吗?"只要你是white male就是racist",这种说法本身难道不是种族歧视?
她还说所有的教科书都需要重写,因为每一页都是歧视,包括小学数学书。。。所以,1+1=2也是歧视?不歧视的时候1+1=3?
我不明白这样的training的意义是什么?BLM和D党是想干嘛?to force everyone to vote for Trump??????

purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 10:35

你遇到的这个白人老太属于深柜川粉,专门恶心人投票给川大大的。
purplebasil
枪支销售史上最高吧。
ConnieBear 发表于 2020-08-26 11:11

没错,我有个朋友春天去注册枪支,警察说短短两三个月有200多新注册,整个镇也就两三千户人家吧?说的是版上华人非常popular的一个好学区的富饶小镇。
m
monmon
你遇到的这个白人老太属于深柜川粉,专门恶心人投票给川大大的。
bigjohn123456 发表于 2020-08-26 11:13

LOL
tiaodashen
枪支销售史上最高吧。
ConnieBear 发表于 2020-08-26 11:11

据说上半年销售了1900万支,往年平均是一年1400万支
其中40%是首次购买
mayelang
据说上半年销售了1900万支,往年平均是一年1400万支
其中40%是首次购买
tiaodashen 发表于 2020-08-26 11:23

进步人士:nra是looting的背后黑手
Lindaleo
所以,不是川普好,而是民主党太渣
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monmon
没错,我有个朋友春天去注册枪支,警察说短短两三个月有200多新注册,整个镇也就两三千户人家吧?说的是版上华人非常popular的一个好学区的富饶小镇。
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:14

看来民主党才是深柜NRA粉,专门鼓励riot, 逼良民拥枪自保
purplebasil
trump就是大嘴而已,他骂中国virus也让人不舒服,但是他的政纲非常不错,建议你看看那些RNC CONVENTION commercials。no shame to vote for trump
monmon 发表于 2020-08-26 11:09

投票不需要考虑丢人不丢人的问题,不需要告诉别人你选的谁。但是,Trump信口胡说太恐怖太让人讨厌了,我也很担心他会引发大规模的对华人的歧视
meizhou1
回复 1楼purplebasil的帖子
就是一群白左恐怖主义
mayelang
投票不需要考虑丢人不丢人的问题,不需要告诉别人你选的谁。但是,Trump信口胡说太恐怖太让人讨厌了,我也很担心他会引发大规模的对华人的歧视
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:25

这时候想起歧视了?进步人士为啥不考虑天天russian spy russian bounty会不会引发大规模对俄裔的歧视
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zhegufei
我两个半月前就发帖子,BLM运动会导致TRUMP起死回生,虽然我对TRUMP极度讨厌。美国没救了
弹指芳华
作,作,我支持BLM继续作
purplebasil
这时候想起歧视了?进步人士为啥不考虑天天russian spy russian bounty会不会引发大规模对俄裔的歧视
mayelang 发表于 2020-08-26 11:27

因为我是华人啊,所以对此更敏感。 极左和极右都一个德性,只要别人说点不合心意的话就跳,一点 empathy 都没有。
purplebasil
我两个半月前就发帖子,BLM运动会导致TRUMP起死回生,虽然我对TRUMP极度讨厌。美国没救了
zhegufei 发表于 2020-08-26 11:29

exactly. 如果没有BLM,我这一票是铁定给D了,Trump在 COVID-19 的表现太太太差了。然而,现在不一样了。。。
脉脉
BLM运动帮我们华人争取平等自由多元化的社会不好吗? 现在就是歧视太多了
弹指芳华
exactly. 如果没有BLM,我这一票是铁定给D了,Trump在 COVID-19 的表现太太太差了。然而,现在不一样了。。。
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:33

世事都是有因果的。4年前trump被选上来恰是因为很多民众受不了08这样的左左了,BLM的折腾非偶然。
mayelang
因为我是华人啊,所以对此更敏感。 极左和极右都一个德性,只要别人说点不合心意的话就跳,一点 empathy 都没有。
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:31

你敏感所以连中国都不能提?你见过任何一个病毒发生地的国家官方抵赖甩锅的么?现在中国就是美国的敌人,如果在这个问题上都达不成共识那还不如回国算了
purplebasil
BLM运动帮我们华人争取平等自由多元化的社会不好吗? 现在就是歧视太多了
脉脉 发表于 2020-08-26 11:35

平等自由多元化? Sorry, I don't see it in this instance. BLM 高人一等,要你举手就举手,不然就bully你,不允许不同意见,甚至不允许沉默。
mayelang
exactly. 如果没有BLM,我这一票是铁定给D了,Trump在 COVID-19 的表现太太太差了。然而,现在不一样了。。。
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:33

能投民主党的说别人极左极右,真是给跪了
Rockq
因为我是华人啊,所以对此更敏感。 极左和极右都一个德性,只要别人说点不合心意的话就跳,一点 empathy 都没有。
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:31

别,还是先怪始作俑者吧,否则躲得过新冠这一波,也躲不过X冠的N波
这么一波又一波的,你享受不享受,惊喜不惊喜...
purplebasil
能投民主党的说别人极左极右,真是给跪了
mayelang 发表于 2020-08-26 11:38

中间派的票就是这样,可能投D也可能投R,你理解不了是因为你极右啊!你跪着好好想想
789
很好啊,被骚扰的也是白左。这是民主党内斗而已,咱就吃瓜看看。
m
monmon
exactly. 如果没有BLM,我这一票是铁定给D了,Trump在 COVID-19 的表现太太太差了。然而,现在不一样了。。。
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:33

还投d....估计还不知道大量安置homeless,强奸犯,drug addict到 uws的酒店的事?现在uws的居民都觉醒了,以为自己compassionate,高度一致的投民主党,结果换来自己的community一夜间面目全非
Rockq
还投d....估计还不知道大量安置homeless,强奸犯,drug addict到 uws的酒店的事?现在uws的居民都觉醒了,以为自己compassionate,高度一致的投民主党,结果换来自己的community一夜间面目全非
monmon 发表于 2020-08-26 11:40

某些华人为了某种利益昧着良心说话,华人文化,天生对打砸抢敬而远之,先不论美国抗新冠怎么样。新冠第一不是美国放出来的,第二跟打砸抢比,在华人心中排不到前头。还在为主党搅浑水的,目的明显
purplebasil
还投d....估计还不知道大量安置homeless,强奸犯,drug addict到 uws的酒店的事?现在uws的居民都觉醒了,以为自己compassionate,高度一致的投民主党,结果换来自己的community一夜间面目全非
monmon 发表于 2020-08-26 11:40

我支持把homeless安置起来啊,不然满大街的homeless不是传染更厉害吗?安置以后怎么控制,是另外一回事
我记得呢,Trump说这个病啊就是一个flu,过几天就奇迹般的消失啦!哦,大家考虑一下喝消毒水~~~Trump是医学天才,专家们都奇怪他怎么没有去当医生。。。
mayelang
中间派的票就是这样,可能投D也可能投R,你理解不了是因为你极右啊!你跪着好好想想
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:39

呵呵,你的孩子填华裔么?
mayelang
我支持把homeless安置起来啊,不然满大街的homeless不是传染更厉害吗?安置以后怎么控制,是另外一回事
我记得呢,Trump说这个病啊就是一个flu,过几天就奇迹般的消失啦!哦,大家考虑一下喝消毒水~~~Trump是医学天才,专家们都奇怪他怎么没有去当医生。。。
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:44

看看当flu处置的瑞典再说话吧
Rockq
我支持把homeless安置起来啊,不然满大街的homeless不是传染更厉害吗?安置以后怎么控制,是另外一回事
我记得呢,Trump说这个病啊就是一个flu,过几天就奇迹般的消失啦!哦,大家考虑一下喝消毒水~~~Trump是医学天才,专家们都奇怪他怎么没有去当医生。。。
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:44

智商的确是个好东西,断章取义也是你这种没选票的拿手的,为什么反川你自己心里明白。不是每个国家都要铁门焊死叫做抗疫
TotallyNaked
在南方红脖州,公司里黑白一半一半,越往上黑人越少,管理茶水间的都是黑人,亚裔黄皮肤不到5个 😂没人提种族歧视,大家安居乐业,和平共处
purplebasil
呵呵,你的孩子填华裔么?
mayelang 发表于 2020-08-26 11:45

我孩子填multi-racial,有什么问题吗?我是华人啊
mayelang
我孩子填multi-racial,有什么问题吗?我是华人啊
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:48

bingo,都到了这一步那我还有啥可说的。。。。你继续做中间选民呗,我们孩子都要填亚裔的跟你当然不是一路人了
Rockq
在南方红脖州,公司里黑白一半一半,越往上黑人越少,管理茶水间的都是黑人,亚裔黄皮肤不到5个 😂没人提种族歧视,大家安居乐业,和平共处
TotallyNaked 发表于 2020-08-26 11:46

对川黑来说,这不可能,必需有歧视,必需有至上 LOL
purplebasil
看看当flu处置的瑞典再说话吧
mayelang 发表于 2020-08-26 11:45

所以你的意思是美国死了那么多人都是因为控制太严了??? 哈哈哈,川卫兵也没比黑卫兵差
mayelang
对川黑来说,这不可能,必需有歧视,必需有至上 LOL
Rockq 发表于 2020-08-26 11:49

re 看不到周围有歧视,说明自己从小接受的就是racist教育,需要系统性的根除,跟白人男性一起去上反歧视课
mayelang
所以你的意思是美国死了那么多人都是因为控制太严了??? 哈哈哈,川卫兵也没比黑卫兵差
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:49

你说因为啥,这病死的都是老头老太太,是谁tm的丧尽天良把染病的老头老太太放一起住的,别告诉我是宏博
Rockq
所以你的意思是美国死了那么多人都是因为控制太严了??? 哈哈哈,川卫兵也没比黑卫兵差
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:49

虽然你自己都不认是华人了,但看起来你是华人文化教育出来的。这么说吧,华人没有真左派...看你说话,文革风满满,跟华人隔离的还不彻底,继续努力
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人群中红帽子是maga的帽子吗😀
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proud to vote for Trump!
TotallyNaked
虽然你自己都不认是华人了,但看起来你是华人文化教育出来的。这么说吧,华人没有真左派...看你说话,文革风满满,跟华人隔离的还不彻底,继续努力
Rockq 发表于 2020-08-26 11:53

她本来就是党员,为了公民入籍和面试官说早就退党了,因为没交党费,就是个投机分子
掰叨叨
一群白人对一个白人,BLM和肤色只是个由头,主要是意识形态的差异,social activism 对新保守主义。
deerrun2020
BLM运动帮我们华人争取平等自由多元化的社会不好吗? 现在就是歧视太多了
脉脉 发表于 2020-08-26 11:35

有这种论点的是傻还是坏?BLM帮华人争取,are you joking?黑皮现在是king,你作为一个华人就不要太抬举自己了。说实话,你去跪,可能都排不到前排。我就想问问,现在有那个华人真的认为BLM是在帮助华人争取?为你争取啥?争取分享自己财富工作和房子的机会吧,lol
m
monmon
我支持把homeless安置起来啊,不然满大街的homeless不是传染更厉害吗?安置以后怎么控制,是另外一回事
我记得呢,Trump说这个病啊就是一个flu,过几天就奇迹般的消失啦!哦,大家考虑一下喝消毒水~~~Trump是医学天才,专家们都奇怪他怎么没有去当医生。。。
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:44

问题是你不住在uws。。。住在uws的超级liberal以前也是这么说话的,现在都成为racist了。
爱与自由
1,不是黑卫兵吗?怎么是一群白人?
2,又拿文革说blm。。。我帮你把逻辑理理
一个是极少数人(赵家利益集团)对绝大多数人(亿万人民群众)实行的独裁,独裁的基础是断绝一切信息,只听一种声音,灭绝人性维护党性
一个是极少数人(虽然已经是历史上最大的民权运动)发起的,自下而上的,decentralized的民权运动(这也是为什么无法控制会有少数暴力行为)。一部分人选择多去了解文化历史,一部分人选择由于无知导致的偏见,这都是受到言论自由保护的
deerrun2020
你说因为啥,这病死的都是老头老太太,是谁tm的丧尽天良把染病的老头老太太放一起住的,别告诉我是宏博
mayelang 发表于 2020-08-26 11:52

现在一提trump,这些川黑就是virus,要不然前面再加个china。你们还有没有别的了?
我作为川粉我可以投biden,你来告诉我BLM怎么解决?同厕怎么解决?你要不行,就和这帮黑粉一起商量下给个意见也行。trump不行,biden也是个无能,是你们这些川黑露脸的时候了。
purplebasil
虽然你自己都不认是华人了,但看起来你是华人文化教育出来的。这么说吧,华人没有真左派...看你说话,文革风满满,跟华人隔离的还不彻底,继续努力
Rockq 发表于 2020-08-26 11:53

"你自己都不认是华人"? when and where did I say that? 川卫兵也没比黑卫兵差,最爱干的就是把中间派往对面阵营赶
kominu
什么言论自由,什么沉默的权利,在黑卫兵眼里都是P。要你举手你就要举手,要你喊口号你就要喊口号,不革命就是反革命。什么叫 光明vs. 黑暗?这才是黑暗,这才是法西斯,这才是独裁。民主党不直面这个问题,只会把中间派都吓跑。(链结里面有视频)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/08/25/dc-protesters-blm-diner-confrontation/

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 A demonstration that began Monday evening in the District to protest the shooting of a Black man in Wisconsin wound its way through two of the city’s entertainment districts, targeting diners in a tactic that has triggered backlash online.
The crowd of protesters confronted a woman seated at a table outside a restaurant on 18th Street NW in Adams Morgan and demanded that she raise her fist in a show of solidarity.
“White silence is violence!” protesters chanted, many with fists in the air.
“Are you a Christian?” a protester demanded, yelling into her face.
But the woman, Lauren B. Victor, refused, even after her dining companion complied.
“I felt like I was under attack,” Victor, 49, an urban planner and photographer who lives in the District, said in an interview afterward. Footage of the incident went viral.
The Black Lives Matter rally, which began about 6:30 p.m. Monday at Columbia Heights Civic Plaza on 14th Street NW, drew several hundred people. They engaged in a call-and-response as protest organizers with bullhorns told how Kenosha, Wis., police had shot and critically injured Jacob Blake. The police shooting, which is still under investigation, has reinvigorated protests against police violence and triggered outbreaks of rioting.
In D.C., however, protesters wound their way up 14th Street, chanting, “No Justice, No Peace,” and, “Fire, fire, gentrifier — Black people used to live here.” Near Quincy Street, the crowd gathered outside restaurants, alternately accusing diners of enjoying “White privilege” and encouraging them to show support. At one table, a young man who objected to the intrusion tried to explain that he worked for a nonprofit organization committed to addressing mental health care for Black people and other underserved populations. Protesters crowded in further around the table, shining video lights in the diners’ eyes and exchanging angry words.
The marchers, now about 150 strong, wound their way to Adams Morgan without further incident.
On Columbia Road, a young Black woman who was leading the protest explained the importance of engaging White people in the struggle for justice and encouraged White protesters to take the lead in confronting diners on 18th Street NW. Several diners at other tables went along, standing or raising their fists, until the crowd homed in on Victor and her companion in front of Los Cuates, a Mexican restaurant.
“I wasn’t actually frightened,” Victor said.
Victor said she was a supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement and had marched in previous demonstrations. But Victor said she also felt that it was wrong for hundreds of people to surround a small group of diners, approach them with their hands raised, and try to cow them into making a show of support.
“It just felt overwhelming to have all of those people come at you. To have a crowd — with all that energy — demand that you do this thing. In the moment it didn’t feel right,” Victor said.
“They like to think because I raise my fist it means something or other.”
As the crowd moved on, Chuck Modiano continued to yell at Victor.
“Good for you — you stood your ground,” Modiano said, demanding to know if she had seen the video of Blake’s shooting. “We’re not going to change this [expletive] for people like you.”
Modiano, who identified himself as a “citizen journalist” who writes for Deadspin, said he wanted to understand her resistance.
“What was in you that you just couldn’t do this?” Modiano asked. “They all did — all the other tables. You were literally the only one of 20 other people. So there was something in you that was different from all the other people.”
Victor explained that she just felt coerced and somewhat threatened — although she also said she wasn’t afraid.
“I didn’t think anyone was actually going to do anything to me. I appreciate their anger,” she said in an interview. “On one level, my best guess was no one was going to hurt me. But those things turn on a dime.”

purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 10:07

这位妹妹,因为前段时间出现在某某螺丝国的群体性事件,现在在网上使用独裁一词的时候,一定要小心再小心,一不小心,就可能触犯了什么天条,连累远方的亲人。。。
TotallyNaked
"你自己都不认是华人"? when and where did I say that? 川卫兵也没比黑卫兵差,最爱干的就是把中间派往对面阵营赶
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 12:06

去留都在你自己啊,你选择哪边难道取决于别人对你的态度吗?你自己的信念呢? 谁也赶不走谁,谁也留不住谁,也别把自己太当回事,觉得有谁留你或者赶你
purplebasil
1,不是黑卫兵吗?怎么是一群白人?
2,又拿文革说blm。。。我帮你把逻辑理理
一个是极少数人(赵家利益集团)对绝大多数人(亿万人民群众)实行的独裁,独裁的基础是断绝一切信息,只听一种声音,灭绝人性维护党性
一个是极少数人(虽然已经是历史上最大的民权运动)发起的,自下而上的,decentralized的民权运动(这也是为什么无法控制会有少数暴力行为)。一部分人选择多去了解文化历史,一部分人选择由于无知导致的偏见,这都是受到言论自由保护的
爱与自由 发表于 2020-08-26 12:03

黑卫兵 = BLM 卫兵 白人就不能是黑卫兵了?你这是吃果果的歧视 自下而上的decentralized的民权运动ended up in 极权的例子太多了。就好象defund police原本是为了打击暴力,最后结果就是大家shoot out,死的人更多一样。无政府主义最后就会变成jungle,没有最革命,只有更革命,互相揭发,互相批斗,今天你在台上斗别人,明天你被按在地上摩擦。最后就是最恶最强的人一统天下。
p
playForever
所以,不是川普好,而是民主党太渣
Lindaleo 发表于 2020-08-26 11:25

绝对是的。 床铺有缺点,但相比民主党这样的搞法 大众还是宁愿投床铺。 真所谓 流氓的民主党 就是要床铺用流氓方法来治
benyo25
BLM运动帮我们华人争取平等自由多元化的社会不好吗? 现在就是歧视太多了
脉脉 发表于 2020-08-26 11:35

BLM帮华人哈哈哈哈哈。。。
你在BLM打杂游行中举个 "Chinese Live Matter" 牌子,看会不会被揍成屎
Ginger2015
我支持把homeless安置起来啊,不然满大街的homeless不是传染更厉害吗?安置以后怎么控制,是另外一回事
我记得呢,Trump说这个病啊就是一个flu,过几天就奇迹般的消失啦!哦,大家考虑一下喝消毒水~~~Trump是医学天才,专家们都奇怪他怎么没有去当医生。。。
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 11:44

麻省专家说了,今年流感比新冠病毒对美国威胁更大
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purplebasil
麻省专家说了,今年流感比新冠病毒对美国威胁更大
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/wVDPVBZF2Xg

Ginger2015 发表于 2020-08-26 12:23

美国的专家们责任跑不了的,一开始非要说戴口罩危害更大
deerrun2020
绝对是的。 床铺有缺点,但相比民主党这样的搞法 大众还是宁愿投床铺。 真所谓 流氓的民主党 就是要床铺用流氓方法来治

playForever 发表于 2020-08-26 12:16

没错,说trump不行的川黑么。能不能让🐷党或者biden出些make sense的政策,别整天就是blm,lgbtq, 穆斯林,要不然就是tm加税和绿色能源。你们这帮川黑呀,整天除了黑,就是黑。我们都知道你们为啥黑,因为你们太笨太蠢和trump说了你们是virus。但是你们还不明白为啥这么多人还要选trump。
m
monmon
美国的专家们责任跑不了的,一开始非要说戴口罩危害更大

purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 12:25

所以你也别怪川普乱说吧,cdc和fauchi这些还是专家呢不也是给了前后不一致的意见? 还有,川普作为总统也是在抗疫上也就有权力提供资源,他都做了不少了,具体抗疫怎么做,是否lockdown,很多权力其实是在州长手里。我觉得川普基本做的还行。
cheeseID
你敏感所以连中国都不能提?你见过任何一个病毒发生地的国家官方抵赖甩锅的么?现在中国就是美国的敌人,如果在这个问题上都达不成共识那还不如回国算了
mayelang 发表于 2020-08-26 11:36

又来了,只要和挺川派观点不一致,就叫嚣着叫别人回国。重要的事情说三遍,美国不是你家开的,美国不是川粉开的,美国不是川普开的。美国属于We The People,。还有川普管理层也不等于共和党。中间派不投川普的时候,不代表参议院众议院不投红色。还有哦,按照你们自己的逻辑(看看你们自己的逻辑说不说得通),等哪天民主党的总统上来了,你们千万别有一丁点的怨言,如果有任何不满,赶快打包回国。否则,到那个时候,一边抱怨民主党总统的,一边还赖在美国不走的,就是吃着美国的饭,砸着美国的锅。。。。你们一边鄙视土共一党专政,叫嚣别人如果不挺川就是粉红,五毛,廊坊大外宣,一边自己和土共秉承同样的信仰理念,某个首领就等同于整个国家。这么说来,你们还不如土共呢,人家相信一党专政,你们相信一人专政。美国三权分立,为的就是遏制任何派别走极端。投D还是投R的参众院,投D还是R的总统是每个美国公民的自由。你没有任何权利仅仅因为别人不投R的总统就让别人回国。
掰叨叨
我反对种族歧视,但是我认为BLM和D党走得太过了。
我们公司也搞了反种族歧视的training,请了一个挺有名的activist,白人老太太。
她说这个种族歧视是无处不在的,从小被洗脑的。 有个同事问:What if I''''m white and male and NOT a racist? 她的回答:不可能,你肯定。凡是在美国长大的受教育的white male,没有人不是。 那她自己呢?不是在美国长大的受教育的?受同样的教育,white female就天然不是racist? 逻辑不自洽还算小事,这种"我说你有罪你就有罪"的态度是正常的吗?不可怕吗?"只要你是white male就是racist",这种说法本身难道不是种族歧视?
她还说所有的教科书都需要重写,因为每一页都是歧视,包括小学数学书。。。所以,1+1=2也是歧视?不歧视的时候1+1=3?
我不明白这样的training的意义是什么?BLM和D党是想干嘛?to force everyone to vote for Trump??????

purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 10:35

我们这里也搞了反歧视培训,有一句我是认同的,白男是种族歧视各种歧视最大的得利者,所以很多人对racism的概念非常淡薄。
Ginger2015
美国的专家们责任跑不了的,一开始非要说戴口罩危害更大

purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 12:25

三月中旬,意大利疫情重灾区医院都奔溃了,大批麻省人二月长假从意大利回来好几个星期了,麻省的专家们还在媒体上宣传把注意力放在今年的流感上,不要散布关于新冠的谣言,当时华人上麻省的mm都知道麻省疫情要完蛋了,已经社区传播了。到今天,州长天天在媒体urge大家戴口罩,保持社交距离,大批年轻人照样不戴口罩到处浪。美国疫情基本谁也没办法。这就是波士顿现在的海滩。


boston2018
而他们left的说的做的,完全justify了大家的恐惧,这个恐惧不是Trump散布的,是left他们自己一手造成的。我听完training以后,感到前所未有的恐惧。
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 10:51

Exactly。今天早上听的WGBH,被采访的警察自己对现状也感到恐惧。 左派把别人塑造成魔鬼,却不知魔鬼也是来自同样人群的肉身。
deerrun2020
我们这里也搞了反歧视培训,有一句我是认同的,白男是种族歧视各种歧视最大的得利者,所以很多人对racism的概念非常淡薄。
掰叨叨 发表于 2020-08-26 12:30

白男里面有racist,但是你这么上升到白男整体本身就是racist。况且,就华人而言,按照blm的标准,也是妥妥的racist,对吧?我问你,你有帮助过黑人社区么?捐过款么?你为什么不到黑人区买房?为啥不把自己小孩送到黑人学校?
racist要通过法律来禁止,例如hate crime。而不是道德和意识形态,这样的话,你和红卫兵没啥区别的。
purplebasil
我们这里也搞了反歧视培训,有一句我是认同的,白男是种族歧视各种歧视最大的得利者,所以很多人对racism的概念非常淡薄。
掰叨叨 发表于 2020-08-26 12:30

即使是既得利益者也不能 一棒子打死说你绝对肯定万无一失是个racist啊!
咱也别光说白男,我们自己也是被批判的。说起来是好几年前了,我那时候还是单身,有一天在纽约街头一个黑人走过来,说要我当他女朋友,我想也没想就拒绝了,结果他说:你嫌弃我是黑人,对不对?我早就听说了,你们Asian是种族歧视最厉害的人。。。我当时吓得赶紧拐进旁边的商店,好在他没有跟进来。哪个正常的女人会在路上跟搭汕的男人说"好,我当你女朋友"?不管什么肤色都不会吧?然而,因为他是黑人,他就能扯成我是歧视他。。。不可怕吗???想象一下有一天人家会说:掰叨叨 ,你交往过黑人男朋友吗?没有啊?为啥啊?这说明你是个racist啊?。。。
dfgd
我们小孩学区里面今年预算大幅削减,动不动就要家长捐款。
然后今年他们设立了一个African American Equality Consultant的职位年薪十几万。
脉脉
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手动点赞 你看的透彻 我们华人应该支持blm
Thinking1919
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吃个饭,太糟心了
boston2018
白男里面有racist,但是你这么上升到白男整体本身就是racist。况且,就华人而言,按照blm的标准,也是妥妥的racist,对吧?我问你,你有帮助过黑人社区么?捐过款么?你为什么不到黑人区买房?为啥不把自己小孩送到黑人学校?
racist要通过法律来禁止,例如hate crime。而不是道德和意识形态,这样的话,你和红卫兵没啥区别的。
deerrun2020 发表于 2020-08-26 12:37

333 no comment on any racial issues
AprilCA
我们这里也搞了反歧视培训,有一句我是认同的,白男是种族歧视各种歧视最大的得利者,所以很多人对racism的概念非常淡薄。
掰叨叨 发表于 2020-08-26 12:30

可惜虎视眈眈的盯着白男手里的权利的是些什么人呢?我们公司里反歧视运动中跳出来炮打司令部的,都是黑墨三,号称自己是brown,被压迫了被歧视了,公司里大头头级别的他们人太少。。。白人不敢吭声,华人看看自己的肤色比lunch bag深,已经被他们算在privileged 里面了。我不明白的印度人,已经在IT里面乌央乌央的哪,还好意思说自己被歧视被压迫……
singingIris
光明前就是黑暗势力反扑之际,无论是什么人种,这种打砸抢就像是监狱暴动一样,监狱里一样有白人。 猪党和背后势力为了夺权完全不顾百姓,这样的党派必定要经历大换血。 最后说一句,现在是judgement day, Father会用火海消灭黑暗力量。搞不清状况的疯狂几毛,以为网上随便说说不用负责任,因果不爽,愚痴的疯狂总要付出代价。
purplebasil
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吃个饭,太糟心了
Thinking1919 发表于 2020-08-26 12:44

又进步了不是?前几个月还在说住在安全的neighborhood是White privilege,父母双全是White privilege,半夜被break in能想起来打电话找警察是White privilege,现在连坐在街边吃饭也是White privilege了  -- 革命的战车轰隆隆地开过来,谁不被碾碎?
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springday
https://myemail.constantcontact.com/Gaslighting.html?soid=1126214090059&aid=nwSHPpYolmo
Gaslighting
Have you ever asked yourself, ‘am I crazy?’ If you have ever asked yourself that, you’re not crazy. You’re most likely being gaslighted. Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse aimed at controlling a person by altering reality to the point where the person will doubt their own sanity.
The term “gaslighting” comes from a 1930’s play called Gas Light. The main character in the play literally tries to drive his wife crazy by gradually dimming the gas-powered lights in their home. When she notices the lights dimming, her husband not only denies that the lights are dimming, he convinces her that she is imagining it to the point where she questions her own sanity.
We are living in a perpetual state of gaslighting. The reality that we are being told by the media is at complete odds with what we are seeing with our own two eyes. And when we question the false reality that we are being presented, or we claim that what we see is that actual reality, we are vilified as racist or bigots or just plain crazy. You’re not racist. You’re not crazy. You’re being gaslighted.
New York State has twice as many deaths from Covid-19 than any other state, and New York has accounted for one fifth of all Covid-19 deaths, but we are told that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has handled the pandemic better than any other governor. But if we support policies of Governors whose states had only a fraction of the infections and deaths as New York, we’re called anti-science and want people to die. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
We see mobs of people looting stores, smashing windows, setting cars on fire and burning down buildings, but we are told that these demonstrations are peaceful protests. And when we call this destruction of our cities, riots, we are called racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
We see the major problem destroying many inner-cities is crime; murder, gang violence, drug dealing, drive-by shootings, armed robbery, but we are told that it is not crime, but the police that are the problem in the inner-cities. We are told we must defund the police and remove law enforcement from crime-riddled cities to make them safer. But if we advocate for more policing in cities overrun by crime, we are accused of being white supremacists and racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
The United States of America accepts more immigrants than any other country in the world. The vast majority of the immigrants are “people of color”, and these immigrants are enjoying freedom and economic opportunity not available to them in their country of origin, but we are told that the United States is the most racist and oppressive country on the planet, and if we disagree, we are called racist and xenophobic. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
Capitalist countries are the most prosperous countries in the world. The standard of living is the highest in capitalist countries. We see more poor people move up the economic ladder to the middle and even the wealthy class through their effort and ability in capitalist countries than any other economic system in the world, but we are told capitalism is an oppressive system designed to keep people down. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
Communist countries killed over 100 million people in the 20th century. Communist countries strip their citizens of basic human rights, dictate every aspect of their lives, treat their citizens like slaves, and drive their economies into the ground, but we are told that Communism is the fairest, most equitable, freest and most prosperous economic system in the world. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
The most egregious example of gaslighting is the concept of “white fragility”. You spend your life trying to be a good person, trying to treat people fairly and with respect. You disavow racism and bigotry in all its forms. You judge people solely on the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. You don’t discriminate based on race or ethnicity. But you are told you are a racist, not because of something you did or said, but solely because of the color of your skin. You know instinctively that charging someone with racism because of their skin color is itself racist. You know that you are not racist, so you defend yourself and your character, but you are told that your defense of yourself is proof of your racism. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
Gaslighting has become one of the most pervasive and destructive tactics in American politics. It is the exact opposite of what our political system was meant to be. It deals in lies and psychological coercion, and not the truth and intellectual discourse. If you ever ask yourself if you’re crazy, you are not. Crazy people aren’t sane enough to ask themselves if they’re crazy. So, trust yourself, believe what’s in your heart. Trust our eyes over what we are told. Never listen to the people who tell you that you are crazy, because you are not, you’re being gaslighted.

Caffeine
就是这样啊。mm你孩子上学了没?你要是看看纽约的公立学校系统就知道为什么很多家长逐渐被推倒右面。 纽约政治被教师工会左右。教师工会说投钱不够,但是非公立学校的老师薪水更低,却教的更好。 教师工会横行,导致低水平的校长不能被离职。低水平的校长不管教孩子,不让少数族裔的孩子act white,耽误的还是少数族裔的孩子。老师想帮有时候都是束手无策。 https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/gulna2/i_used_to_teach_in_a_black_inner_city_school/ 类似例子很多。 我以前也是liberal,当妈后发现这条路根本走不下去。

C
Christina05
我支持他们在大选前使劲闹,千万别歇着。
kominu
就是这样啊。mm你孩子上学了没?你要是看看纽约的公立学校系统就知道为什么很多家长逐渐被推倒右面。 纽约政治被教师工会左右。教师工会说投钱不够,但是非公立学校的老师薪水更低,却教的更好。 教师工会横行,导致低水平的校长不能被离职。低水平的校长不管教孩子,不让少数族裔的孩子act white,耽误的还是少数族裔的孩子。老师想帮有时候都是束手无策。 https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/gulna2/i_used_to_teach_in_a_black_inner_city_school/ 类似例子很多。 我以前也是liberal,当妈后发现这条路根本走不下去。


Caffeine 发表于 2020-08-26 13:00

哇,这就是传说中的咖啡因姐姐吗?原来您还健在啊!久仰久仰!
掰叨叨
即使是既得利益者也不能 一棒子打死说你绝对肯定万无一失是个racist啊!
咱也别光说白男,我们自己也是被批判的。说起来是好几年前了,我那时候还是单身,有一天在纽约街头一个黑人走过来,说要我当他女朋友,我想也没想就拒绝了,结果他说:你嫌弃我是黑人,对不对?我早就听说了,你们Asian是种族歧视最厉害的人。。。我当时吓得赶紧拐进旁边的商店,好在他没有跟进来。哪个正常的女人会在路上跟搭汕的男人说"好,我当你女朋友"?不管什么肤色都不会吧?然而,因为他是黑人,他就能扯成我是歧视他。。。不可怕吗???想象一下有一天人家会说:掰叨叨 ,你交往过黑人男朋友吗?没有啊?为啥啊?这说明你是个racist啊?。。。
purplebasil 发表于 2020-08-26 12:39

你做的和别人一棒子把白男都打成racist有什么区别呢,都是基于个例啊。亚裔从来都不是privileged, 从政治到经济政策,从来没有对亚裔倾斜过。美国掌权的是亚裔还是白男,咱们自己没数吗?
mylifetouch
https://myemail.constantcontact.com/Gaslighting.html?soid=1126214090059&aid=nwSHPpYolmo
Gaslighting
Have you ever asked yourself, ‘am I crazy?’ If you have ever asked yourself that, you’re not crazy. You’re most likely being gaslighted. Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse aimed at controlling a person by altering reality to the point where the person will doubt their own sanity.
The term “gaslighting” comes from a 1930’s play called Gas Light. The main character in the play literally tries to drive his wife crazy by gradually dimming the gas-powered lights in their home. When she notices the lights dimming, her husband not only denies that the lights are dimming, he convinces her that she is imagining it to the point where she questions her own sanity.
We are living in a perpetual state of gaslighting. The reality that we are being told by the media is at complete odds with what we are seeing with our own two eyes. And when we question the false reality that we are being presented, or we claim that what we see is that actual reality, we are vilified as racist or bigots or just plain crazy. You’re not racist. You’re not crazy. You’re being gaslighted.
New York State has twice as many deaths from Covid-19 than any other state, and New York has accounted for one fifth of all Covid-19 deaths, but we are told that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has handled the pandemic better than any other governor. But if we support policies of Governors whose states had only a fraction of the infections and deaths as New York, we’re called anti-science and want people to die. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
We see mobs of people looting stores, smashing windows, setting cars on fire and burning down buildings, but we are told that these demonstrations are peaceful protests. And when we call this destruction of our cities, riots, we are called racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
We see the major problem destroying many inner-cities is crime; murder, gang violence, drug dealing, drive-by shootings, armed robbery, but we are told that it is not crime, but the police that are the problem in the inner-cities. We are told we must defund the police and remove law enforcement from crime-riddled cities to make them safer. But if we advocate for more policing in cities overrun by crime, we are accused of being white supremacists and racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
The United States of America accepts more immigrants than any other country in the world. The vast majority of the immigrants are “people of color”, and these immigrants are enjoying freedom and economic opportunity not available to them in their country of origin, but we are told that the United States is the most racist and oppressive country on the planet, and if we disagree, we are called racist and xenophobic. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
Capitalist countries are the most prosperous countries in the world. The standard of living is the highest in capitalist countries. We see more poor people move up the economic ladder to the middle and even the wealthy class through their effort and ability in capitalist countries than any other economic system in the world, but we are told capitalism is an oppressive system designed to keep people down. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
Communist countries killed over 100 million people in the 20th century. Communist countries strip their citizens of basic human rights, dictate every aspect of their lives, treat their citizens like slaves, and drive their economies into the ground, but we are told that Communism is the fairest, most equitable, freest and most prosperous economic system in the world. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
The most egregious example of gaslighting is the concept of “white fragility”. You spend your life trying to be a good person, trying to treat people fairly and with respect. You disavow racism and bigotry in all its forms. You judge people solely on the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. You don’t discriminate based on race or ethnicity. But you are told you are a racist, not because of something you did or said, but solely because of the color of your skin. You know instinctively that charging someone with racism because of their skin color is itself racist. You know that you are not racist, so you defend yourself and your character, but you are told that your defense of yourself is proof of your racism. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
Gaslighting has become one of the most pervasive and destructive tactics in American politics. It is the exact opposite of what our political system was meant to be. It deals in lies and psychological coercion, and not the truth and intellectual discourse. If you ever ask yourself if you’re crazy, you are not. Crazy people aren’t sane enough to ask themselves if they’re crazy. So, trust yourself, believe what’s in your heart. Trust our eyes over what we are told. Never listen to the people who tell you that you are crazy, because you are not, you’re being gaslighted.


springday 发表于 2020-08-26 12:55

gaslighting 的下一步是doublethink。就是你知道你得到的信息都是错的,但是你可以坦然从之,完全不疑问。
就是说你知道你自己精神分裂,但是你很自豪。
purplebasil
就是这样啊。mm你孩子上学了没?你要是看看纽约的公立学校系统就知道为什么很多家长逐渐被推倒右面。 纽约政治被教师工会左右。教师工会说投钱不够,但是非公立学校的老师薪水更低,却教的更好。 教师工会横行,导致低水平的校长不能被离职。低水平的校长不管教孩子,不让少数族裔的孩子act white,耽误的还是少数族裔的孩子。老师想帮有时候都是束手无策。 https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/gulna2/i_used_to_teach_in_a_black_inner_city_school/ 类似例子很多。 我以前也是liberal,当妈后发现这条路根本走不下去。


Caffeine 发表于 2020-08-26 13:00

是的,我和几个熟识的家长都聊过,有的是儿子的同学,有的是儿子的playdate。大家都觉得BLM这条路越走越凶险,现在的运动已经踩了红线。咱不是什么进步人士,第一关心的就是自己的孩子,自己的家庭,自己的neighborhood。
purplebasil
你做的和别人一棒子把白男都打成racist有什么区别呢,都是基于个例啊。亚裔从来都不是privileged, 从政治到经济政策,从来没有对亚裔倾斜过。美国掌权的是亚裔还是白男,咱们自己没数吗?
掰叨叨 发表于 2020-08-26 13:10

然而在黑人眼里,Asian跟白人一样是 privileged ,NYC 要取消特殊高中的提议,就是因为学校里Asian学生太多。黑人上台,Asian一样是被打击的对象,至于是不是比白人当政好点,还真不好说。我举的那个例子,是滥打race牌的例子,it could happen to anybody at any time。
kominu
你做的和别人一棒子把白男都打成racist有什么区别呢,都是基于个例啊。亚裔从来都不是privileged, 从政治到经济政策,从来没有对亚裔倾斜过。美国掌权的是亚裔还是白男,咱们自己没数吗?
掰叨叨 发表于 2020-08-26 13:10

美国的掌舵人很快就变Multi-racial了 Harris 2022
Caffeine
哇,这就是传说中的咖啡因姐姐吗?原来您还健在啊!久仰久仰!
kominu 发表于 2020-08-26 13:07

嘿,您这话说的!
掰叨叨
白男里面有racist,但是你这么上升到白男整体本身就是racist。况且,就华人而言,按照blm的标准,也是妥妥的racist,对吧?我问你,你有帮助过黑人社区么?捐过款么?你为什么不到黑人区买房?为啥不把自己小孩送到黑人学校?
racist要通过法律来禁止,例如hate crime。而不是道德和意识形态,这样的话,你和红卫兵没啥区别的。
deerrun2020 发表于 2020-08-26 12:37

这位崭新的ID,我帮助minority社区的时候,你还不知道在哪里和泥巴呢。对racism观念淡薄就等于都是racist,这是你的逻辑,不是我的。立个风车开打,培训过的车轱辘话甩一套,任何话题都能上升到个人攻击和政治化,我在你们群友的回帖里看的多了。流水线作业罢了。感谢华人黑名单,不用整天听苍蝇嗡嗡。