https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-21/trump-administration-signals-u-s-firms-can-use-wechat-in-china Trump Team Signals U.S. Firms Can Use WeChat in China After Ban By Jennifer Jacobs, Shelly Banjo, Saleha Mohsin, Jenny Leonard, and Naomi Nix August 21, 2020, 11:03 AM EDT Updated on August 21, 2020, 11:51 AM EDT Move follows lobbying push by U.S. companies to curtail ban Technical details of partial ban still being hammered out The Trump administration is signaling that U.S. companies can continue to use the WeChat messaging app in China, according to several people familiar with the matter, two weeks after President Donald Trump ordered a U.S. ban on the Chinese-owned service. The administration is still working through the technical implications of how to enforce such a partial ban on the app, which is owned by Tencent Holdings Ltd., one of China’s biggest companies. A key question is whether the White House would allow Apple Inc. and Alphabet Inc.’s Google to carry the app in its global app stores outside of the U.S., according to the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity. The intention is to prohibit any downloads or updates of the WeChat app in U.S. app stores, two of the people said. U.S. companies with China operations such as Starbucks Corp. could still advertise and process transactions with Chinese consumers via the app, they said. The White House and Tencent didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment. The move follows Trump’s Aug. 6 executive order prohibiting U.S. people and companies from doing business with WeChat from mid-September, which set off alarm bells across U.S. companies with operations in China. WeChat is an indispensable part of doing business in the country and selling products to consumers there, who use the app for everything from buying coffee to airline tickets. In recent weeks, lobbyists in the U.S. went into overdrive, asking staffers in the White House and the Commerce Department about the logistics and intention of the WeChat executive order, according to people familiar with the matter. Some corporate lobbying groups have been pushing the administration to narrow the ban’s scope. “We are talking to everyone who will listen to us,” said Craig Allen, president of the US-China Business Council, whose group represents companies including Walmart Inc. and General Motors Co. “WeChat is a little like electricity. You use it everywhere” in China, Allen said. He didn’t confirm conversations with the administration, but said his group has been trying to illustrate the “downsides to an expansive interpretation of the order.” (Updates with lobbying push from sixth paragraph)
This was a piece of “old news” now — actually, it was last May (2017) when Russia decided to ban the app WeChat. The official explanation was it didn’t register in Russia’s relative administration bureau. Other apps including BlackBerry, Imo, Line and Vcha were also on the list.
Trump Team Signals U.S. Firms Can Use WeChat in China After Ban By Jennifer Jacobs, Shelly Banjo, Saleha Mohsin, Jenny Leonard, and Naomi Nix August 21, 2020, 11:03 AM EDT Updated on August 21, 2020, 11:51 AM EDT
Move follows lobbying push by U.S. companies to curtail ban Technical details of partial ban still being hammered out
The Trump administration is signaling that U.S. companies can continue to use the WeChat messaging app in China, according to several people familiar with the matter, two weeks after President Donald Trump ordered a U.S. ban on the Chinese-owned service.
The administration is still working through the technical implications of how to enforce such a partial ban on the app, which is owned by Tencent Holdings Ltd., one of China’s biggest companies. A key question is whether the White House would allow Apple Inc. and Alphabet Inc.’s Google to carry the app in its global app stores outside of the U.S., according to the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
The intention is to prohibit any downloads or updates of the WeChat app in U.S. app stores, two of the people said. U.S. companies with China operations such as Starbucks Corp. could still advertise and process transactions with Chinese consumers via the app, they said.
The White House and Tencent didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.
The move follows Trump’s Aug. 6 executive order prohibiting U.S. people and companies from doing business with WeChat from mid-September, which set off alarm bells across U.S. companies with operations in China. WeChat is an indispensable part of doing business in the country and selling products to consumers there, who use the app for everything from buying coffee to airline tickets.
In recent weeks, lobbyists in the U.S. went into overdrive, asking staffers in the White House and the Commerce Department about the logistics and intention of the WeChat executive order, according to people familiar with the matter. Some corporate lobbying groups have been pushing the administration to narrow the ban’s scope.
“We are talking to everyone who will listen to us,” said Craig Allen, president of the US-China Business Council, whose group represents companies including Walmart Inc. and General Motors Co. “WeChat is a little like electricity. You use it everywhere” in China, Allen said.
He didn’t confirm conversations with the administration, but said his group has been trying to illustrate the “downsides to an expansive interpretation of the order.”
(Updates with lobbying push from sixth paragraph)
美国公司在美国也不能用啊, 在中国可以继续使用。
这不是废话么~~美国公司在美国为什么要用微信?
这下lobby的主力被橘子搞定了,谁还能为美华出头呢?
呵呵,年初拉google说要做各种fancy的病毒控制系统还没影呢,不过懂王嘛,没有他不懂的
只是不能下载的话,没有防火墙,已经安装的完全可以继续用。 没安装或想升级的,安卓的直接下载APK安装,苹果的去中国苹果下载或用爱思助手装ipa
哈哈哈哈 怎么可能。 腾讯在美国这么大利益,自己回主动封禁微信的;就像对印度一样。
不说帮trump, google 对国家抗疫做过什么贡献吗?trump邀请,google干了什么有用的事了吗
印度和美国不一样,印度主动用了防火墙封了ip,腾讯也就索性不提供服务了,白花那些成本干什么。 美国没有防火墙,已经安装的继续使用,腾讯为什么要放掉这些客户?
注册时在国内也不让用了么
不是写的很清楚么?
川建国的政策出了名的拍脑袋啊。。。。
这个是正解!如果禁止美企在中国用微信,那美国企业损失大。
🈲了在美国的华人用微信的主要目的是,保护在美国使用者的信息,二是华人受到国内微信上的假信息还有其他的影响。真要打击腾讯的话,就不是🈲微信,而是把腾讯在美国的投资和股票清出去吧,和微信没啥关系。
所以,我觉得最后就是腾讯自己封了wechat.
逼迫腾讯停止服务来自美国的IP就可以了
楼上一群没见识的大妈
如果不把他选下去,未来4年还不知道要出多少拍脑袋的事情呢,何止封微信
两害相权取其轻啊
帮助老川出这个主意的没准就是个美华
近日,俄罗斯官方将国际版微信WeChat列入黑名单,原因是违反信息技术和信息安全相关法律。这件事对于普通微信用户来说,可能有些难以接受和理解,但如果站在俄罗斯的立场上,从信息安全的角度去考虑,俄罗斯的做法值得深思。今天出版的《中国国防报》就来谈谈微信在俄罗斯遭禁的话题。
那不如先封了苹果手机
当然是美华了,哪个老美在乎你用不用微信。不过,你也别以为华人都和你一样,那个白宫petition, 挂了一个月连10万个签名都攒不够。已经很说明问题了。
我还挺吃惊以为大部分人不支持禁微信,结果发现绝大部分华人脑子还是很清醒的。
petition能说明什么问题,不支持禁微信的不见得都跑去签名而已。支持禁微信的就是国内没亲没故的,什么脑子清醒。
余茂春么不是,应该就是他的主意
普习川金(排名分先后),四巨头的脑子都长的一个模样。
他有脑袋么
你觉得那些回不去的,且和家里关系不好的,看着另外一波华人能正常和国内交流甚至因为交流有更多工作上升机会的,有了和政客打交道的机会怎么整你们?还不是赶紧出主意整死这帮孙子,还国家安全呢,文革里那些和父母断绝关系的不都是喊着为了国家为了党,喊着为了国家可以不用管家人的都是些什么货色都可以参看文革。
所以说美国以后再也没有道德制高点说中国设墙禁这个封那个了,都是以国家安全的名义。老川呢,如果11月连任,那估计接下来4年更是各种作妖打算连任第三届,或者干脆修仙齐活了
两害相权取其轻
确实是疯了!感觉完全感情用事,制定决策毫无依据无条理。
查了一下,这个必须要澄清,俄罗斯禁微信是2017年的新闻2017年五月四号禁,五月11号解除。原因是软件没有登记。
混淆视听的人只能让人不齿。
https://m.leiphone.com/news/201705/tDgnZU3bjeok7fJp.html
5月11日消息,据俄罗斯卫星通讯社报道,俄罗斯联邦通信、信息技术和大众传媒监督局网站发布消息称,已将中国通讯服务平台微信(英文名:WeChat)从被禁网站名单上删除。 雷锋网此前曾报道,5月4日起,俄罗斯联邦电信局宣布已将微信纳入屏蔽网站名单。不光微信,Line、BlackBerry Messenger、Zello等社交通讯软件也同样遭俄罗斯联邦电信局的封禁。 据第一财经报导,在被禁之后,微信官方回应称,“我们已经关注到‘WeChat在俄罗斯访问受阻’一事,对此深表遗憾。初步了解的情况是,根据俄罗斯主管部门网络管理条例,网络服务提供者需向俄罗斯相关政府部门登记,但WeChat对此有不同理解。我们也正在与俄罗斯相关部门沟通。” 俄方在给出的书面回复中称,根据俄罗斯2014年5月关于网络信息管理的法律修正案,网络信息服务商应在俄相关部门进行登记。俄政府要求服务商提供所在国的工商注册信息、服务器地址、软件功能说明等信息。俄方保证,在提供上述信息后将取消对WeChat的封停。 看来,微信应该已经按照俄罗斯政府的要求提交了相关信息,并进行了登记。
This was a piece of “old news” now — actually, it was last May (2017) when Russia decided to ban the app WeChat. The official explanation was it didn’t register in Russia’s relative administration bureau. Other apps including BlackBerry, Imo, Line and Vcha were also on the list.
美华回中国也可以用啊
的确就是这样~~
川普的逻辑,当劫匪过得很滋润啊,看看那边的TG, 为什么我们不能当劫匪,偏偏要吃力不讨好当警察呢? 所以,欧盟,日韩,加拿大墨西哥。。。打劫啦~~
意思就是说把地区改成中国还是可以下载,update的?
川普根本不知道他还拥有一大批黄川粉在微信上为他摇旗呐喊呢
比起民主党看肤色升大学和就业,到处黑命贵打砸抢,对美华来说禁个微信的危害算不了啥。权衡利弊,我还是选共和党。
发红包去中餐馆都是洗黑钱,华裔人口才多少?有多少逃税?你这么污蔑华人是啥居心呢?
轮子高兴得很,可以和国内断绝关系,都转到电报群上去了。
老川懵逼了,前一阵子签名要求惩罚微信限制言论自由的也是你们这些华人
你是不是精神不正常?
感觉那个层主是反讽
不签petition只是看透了所谓的petition而已……
清除网络垃圾,打击华人败类,已举报,不谢。
呵呵,2016年开始,一篇篇川粉的“雄文”,各种煽风点火的竞选谣言。 现在好了,无处安放了。
我不支持禁微信,我也没签那个petition。那些个petition签了那么多,有哪一个有用的?
原来trump和习近平一样,川禁评。搞了半天跑到美国还是逃不掉共产党那样。果然是天下乌鸦一样黑。你们这些反华川粉果然有间谍,居然在美国推行土工的一套搞和平演变。
没微信更要买iphone,可以iMessage
那些反华川粉一个个西斯底里的在各个微信群里拉票宣传,拼命舔。但是在trump眼里就是微尘,是一脚可以踩掉的有叛逆基因的蚁族。
种族主义份子最好少在华人网上发言,破坏华人形象。你要反对她的政策,请具体说反对她的哪些政策好了。
替粉粉们捏汗,发现美国用户告微信eo,不尊重川割割,在隔壁楼生气呢。又不敢骂美国人集资诉讼,只好在隔壁楼骂庄安安
难的粉丝和偶像都那么思路清奇
不得不承认,川粉是我见过最有素质的一批人,为了国家利益,维护领导人形象,坚决放弃个人利益并且,试图阻止其他人维护自己的权利。特别得土工精髓
不知道现在还在用微信的川粉脸上还挂不挂得住
个别美华大妈还是感觉隆恩浩荡的,对川大总统感恩戴德,恨不能捧脚