前天刚刚出版的JAMA Cardiology权威期刊最新研究 100个患者中,78个新冠恢复患者有着严重的心脏后遗症,包括心肌炎和冠心病等。这部分人大部分人45-53岁之间(中位数49岁),之前并无心脏病史,包括18个无症状感染者,和49个轻度患者。只有33个人需要住院治疗。 就是说,就算大部分人,无症状或者轻症状,也有可能有严重心脏病后遗症。 说我不懂英语的,自己读读下面的论文! An unselected cohort of 100 patients who recently recovered from COVID-19 infection were included, of which 53 (53%) were male, and the median (IQR) age was 49 (45-53) years. Baseline characteristics are provided in Table 1. Most patients recovered at home (n = 67), with severity of the acute COVID-19 illness ranging from asymptomatic (n = 18) to minor to moderate symptoms (n = 49). A total of 33 severely unwell patients (33%) required hospitalization. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916
100个患者中,78个新冠恢复患者有着严重的心脏后遗症,包括心肌炎和冠心病等。这部分人45-53岁之间,之前并无心脏病史,包括18个无症状感染者,和三分之二的轻度患者。 就是说,就算无症状,也有可能有心脏病后遗症。 前天刚刚出版的JAMA Cardiology权威期刊最新研究: 78/100 recovered COVID-19 patients have serious heart conditions (myocarditis and pericarditis) after recovery. These patients were 45-53 year old, "mostly healthy", & none had heart symptoms before Covid. 18 patients were asymptomatic & 2/3rd were mild-to-moderate cases. Outcomes of Cardiovascular Magnetic Resonance Imaging in Patients Recently Recovered From Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916
这100人都是重症康复者。楼主发的论文链接里有 Exposure Recent recovery from severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 infection, as determined by reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction on swab test of the upper respiratory tract.
“This is a prospective observational cohort study of 100 patients diagnosed with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 by reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction on swab test of the upper respiratory tract who fulfilled inclusion criteria for this CMR investigation.” Sample size 100, and they are selected patients. 标题党啊!
这100人都是重症康复者。楼主发的论文链接里有 Exposure Recent recovery from severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 infection, as determined by reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction on swab test of the upper respiratory tract. 有希望就对了 发表于 2020-07-29 16:41
啥重症康复者,100里67个都没住医院。 Of the 100 included patients, 53 (53%) were male, and the median (interquartile range [IQR]) age was 49 (45-53) years. The median (IQR) time interval between COVID-19 diagnosis and CMR was 71 (64-92) days. Of the 100 patients recently recovered from COVID-19, 67 (67%) recovered at home, while 33 (33%) required hospitalization.
说我不懂英语的,自己读读下面的论文! An unselected cohort of 100 patients who recently recovered from COVID-19 infection were included, of which 53 (53%) were male, and the median (IQR) age was 49 (45-53) years. Baseline characteristics are provided in Table 1. Most patients recovered at home (n = 67), with severity of the acute COVID-19 illness ranging from asymptomatic (n = 18) to minor to moderate symptoms (n = 49). A total of 33 severely unwell patients (33%) required hospitalization.
这100人都是重症康复者。楼主发的论文链接里有 Exposure Recent recovery from severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 infection, as determined by reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction on swab test of the upper respiratory tract. 有希望就对了 发表于 2020-07-29 16:41
这100人都是重症康复者。楼主发的论文链接里有 Exposure Recent recovery from severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 infection, as determined by reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction on swab test of the upper respiratory tract. 有希望就对了 发表于 2020-07-29 16:41
severe acute respiratory syndrome----这是SARS的统一称呼,这次这个流行病是SARS的一种。 后面提到sample里有大量无症状和轻症患者。
In this study of a cohort of German patients recently recovered from COVID-19 infection, CMR revealed cardiac involvement in 78 patients (78%) and ongoing myocardial inflammation in 60 patients (60%), 楼主把这个结论好好翻译一下,那句话是心脏严重损害,还冠心病呢。 cardiac involvement!!
In this study of a cohort of German patients recently recovered from COVID-19 infection, CMR revealed cardiac involvement in 78 patients (78%) and ongoing myocardial inflammation in 60 patients (60%), 楼主把这个结论好好翻译一下,那句话是心脏严重损害,还冠心病呢。 cardiac involvement!! dextran 发表于 2020-07-29 16:53
myocardial inflammation in 60 patients (60%) 这还不吓人?60%心肌炎 Myocarditis Overview Symptoms Treatments Specialists Overview Description Myocarditis is usually caused by a viral infection. A severe case can weaken the heart, which can lead to heart failure, abnormal heartbeat, and sudden death. Symptoms include chest pain, abnormal heartbeat, and shortness of breath. Treatment may include medication to regulate the heartbeat and improve heart function. In rare but severe cases, a device may be needed to help the heart function. 路倒的原因之一
这100人都是重症康复者。楼主发的论文链接里有 Exposure Recent recovery from severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 infection, as determined by reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction on swab test of the upper respiratory tract. 有希望就对了 发表于 2020-07-29 16:41
severe acute respiratory syndrome = SARSsevere acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 = SARS coronavirus 2 they are not necessarily 重症康复者
前天刚刚出版的JAMA Cardiology权威期刊最新研究 100个患者中,78个新冠恢复患者有着严重的心脏后遗症,包括心肌炎和冠心病等。这部分人大部分人45-53岁之间(中位数49岁),之前并无心脏病史,包括18个无症状感染者,和49个轻度患者。只有33个人需要住院治疗。 就是说,就算大部分人,无症状或者轻症状,也有可能有严重心脏病后遗症。 说我不懂英语的,自己读读下面的论文! An unselected cohort of 100 patients who recently recovered from COVID-19 infection were included, of which 53 (53%) were male, and the median (IQR) age was 49 (45-53) years. Baseline characteristics are provided in Table 1. Most patients recovered at home (n = 67), with severity of the acute COVID-19 illness ranging from asymptomatic (n = 18) to minor to moderate symptoms (n = 49). A total of 33 severely unwell patients (33%) required hospitalization. Outcomes of Cardiovascular Magnetic Resonance Imaging in Patients Recently Recovered From Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) 78/100 recovered COVID-19 patients have serious heart conditions (myocarditis and pericarditis) after recovery. These patients were 45-53 year old, "mostly healthy", & none had heart symptoms before Covid. 18 patients were asymptomatic & 2/3rd were mild-to-moderate cases. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916
Most patients recovered at home (n = 67), with severity of the acute COVID-19 illness ranging from asymptomatic (n = 18) to minor to moderate symptoms (n = 49). 67%的无症状或者轻症状患者,只有33个人严重的需要住院的 你一遍一遍的重复啥呢。。。自己读读论文不行么。。。
Most patients recovered at home (n = 67), with severity of the acute COVID-19 illness ranging from asymptomatic (n = 18) to minor to moderate symptoms (n = 49). 67%的无症状或者轻症状患者,只有33个人严重的需要住院的 你一遍一遍的重复啥呢。。。自己读读论文不行么。。。 jiaru0099 发表于 2020-07-29 17:13
“This is a prospective observational cohort study of 100 patients diagnosed with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 by reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction on swab test of the upper respiratory tract who fulfilled inclusion criteria for this CMR investigation.” Sample size 100, and they are selected patients. 标题党啊! fxsbluenight 发表于 2020-07-29 16:42
前天刚刚出版的JAMA Cardiology权威期刊最新研究 100个患者中,78个新冠恢复患者有着严重的心脏后遗症,包括心肌炎和冠心病等。这部分人大部分人45-53岁之间(中位数49岁),之前并无心脏病史,包括18个无症状感染者,和49个轻度患者。只有33个人需要住院治疗。 就是说,就算大部分人,无症状或者轻症状,也有可能有严重心脏病后遗症。 说我不懂英语的,自己读读下面的论文! An unselected cohort of 100 patients who recently recovered from COVID-19 infection were included, of which 53 (53%) were male, and the median (IQR) age was 49 (45-53) years. Baseline characteristics are provided in Table 1. Most patients recovered at home (n = 67), with severity of the acute COVID-19 illness ranging from asymptomatic (n = 18) to minor to moderate symptoms (n = 49). A total of 33 severely unwell patients (33%) required hospitalization. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916
前天刚刚出版的JAMA Cardiology权威期刊最新研究 100个患者中,78个新冠恢复患者有着严重的心脏后遗症,包括心肌炎和冠心病等。这部分人大部分人45-53岁之间(中位数49岁),之前并无心脏病史,包括18个无症状感染者,和49个轻度患者。只有33个人需要住院治疗。 就是说,就算大部分人,无症状或者轻症状,也有可能有严重心脏病后遗症。 说我不懂英语的,自己读读下面的论文! An unselected cohort of 100 patients who recently recovered from COVID-19 infection were included, of which 53 (53%) were male, and the median (IQR) age was 49 (45-53) years. Baseline characteristics are provided in Table 1. Most patients recovered at home (n = 67), with severity of the acute COVID-19 illness ranging from asymptomatic (n = 18) to minor to moderate symptoms (n = 49). A total of 33 severely unwell patients (33%) required hospitalization. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916
100个患者中,78个新冠恢复患者有着严重的心脏后遗症,包括心肌炎和冠心病等。这部分人大部分人45-53岁之间(中位数49岁),之前并无心脏病史,包括18个无症状感染者,和49个轻度患者。只有33个人需要住院治疗。
就是说,就算大部分人,无症状或者轻症状,也有可能有严重心脏病后遗症。
说我不懂英语的,自己读读下面的论文!
An unselected cohort of 100 patients who recently recovered from COVID-19 infection were included, of which 53 (53%) were male, and the median (IQR) age was 49 (45-53) years. Baseline characteristics are provided in Table 1. Most patients recovered at home (n = 67), with severity of the acute COVID-19 illness ranging from asymptomatic (n = 18) to minor to moderate symptoms (n = 49). A total of 33 severely unwell patients (33%) required hospitalization.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916
美国本来大可不必这样。。。可惜一个老鼠屎坏了一锅粥。。。
这么大的基数传染,太吓人了。。。
更新:
有些人竟然severe acute respiratory syndrome都看不明白就被控评的给赞上去了。。。Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome是啥?SARS! 无语😒
🔥 最新回帖
虽然楼主确实危言耸听,但自己不懂还骂人骂的这么义正词严的也是醉了。 给你引用下,断句是这么断的 okay? Severe acute resporatory syndrome coronavirus 2= SARS-Cov-2 =新冠病毒学名
一群德国法兰克福医院的医生做个研究
为的是为了搞烂搞坏美国
谁给你的脸胡说八道的。。。
之前麻省医院四月底就有相关研究了
谷歌搜冠心病第一个就是
现在刚开始研究,长期影响估计得继续观察
🛋️ 沙发板凳
太吓人了
无症状感染者,是感染新冠自始至终都没有症状吗?
然后病好了以后反而突然就出现了心肌炎的症状是吗?
你是。。。卖保险的么。。。
还是。。。买股票的。。。
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这个数据太吓人了。。。
读了这论文就是要研究那些无症状的或者轻症状的
因为之前大部分论文太关注在重症救治上了
这个论文的motivation就是看看对于无症状或者轻症状的人的后遗症
是啊,学区投票结果回来了,多数家长都受不了了,要求开学in person授课,校车上下学。这可怎么防啊。
Sample size 100, and they are selected patients. 标题党啊!
这个结果南宁卫健委的蓝主任年初都说过了。从病理上分析,新冠病毒通过ace2蛋白侵袭破坏细胞,心脏是ace2富集的器官之一,可怕的是成人的心肌细胞不可再生,坏了就是永久性的。
啥重症康复者,100里67个都没住医院。
Of the 100 included patients, 53 (53%) were male, and the median (interquartile range [IQR]) age was 49 (45-53) years. The median (IQR) time interval between COVID-19 diagnosis and CMR was 71 (64-92) days. Of the 100 patients recently recovered from COVID-19, 67 (67%) recovered at home, while 33 (33%) required hospitalization.
An unselected cohort of 100 patients who recently recovered from COVID-19 infection were included, of which 53 (53%) were male, and the median (IQR) age was 49 (45-53) years. Baseline characteristics are provided in Table 1. Most patients recovered at home (n = 67), with severity of the acute COVID-19 illness ranging from asymptomatic (n = 18) to minor to moderate symptoms (n = 49). A total of 33 severely unwell patients (33%) required hospitalization.
希望有更多数据,就这一研究结果来看,还是很可怕的。
看过一个新闻,一个很年轻健康的女孩,新冠轻症痊后,身体内残留的血栓进入大脑死亡。
本来可以救100,000人命,很多人本来根本不会变成重症,但猪党从中作梗,害死了这么多人。
对啊,其实之前大部分研究就是对重症救治的
现在对无症状轻症状感染者的研究是对的方向。。。
有没有分组的结果?如果没有,可能那18个无症状的都在22个没有心脏问题的人里 而且分组样本数太小,比如无症状才18个,没啥统计学意义
你再读读文章,楼主并没有说错。
severe acute respiratory syndrome----这是SARS的统一称呼,这次这个流行病是SARS的一种。
后面提到sample里有大量无症状和轻症患者。
有些人论文不读张嘴就来,人家论文数据一栏明明白白是说的是无选择的100个新冠患者!
有没有分组的结果?如果没有,可能那18个无症状的都在22个没有心脏问题的人里
而且分组样本数太小,比如无症状才18个,没啥统计学意义
晒晒这些蠢人。。。
所以网上流行的所谓H2o治疗轻症是不对得了 对亲症还是应该早用药早治疗
18个是大量?!
myocardial inflammation in 60 patients (60%)
这还不吓人?60%心肌炎
Myocarditis Overview Symptoms Treatments Specialists Overview Description Myocarditis is usually caused by a viral infection. A severe case can weaken the heart, which can lead to heart failure, abnormal heartbeat, and sudden death. Symptoms include chest pain, abnormal heartbeat, and shortness of breath. Treatment may include medication to regulate the heartbeat and improve heart function. In rare but severe cases, a device may be needed to help the heart function.
路倒的原因之一
severe acute respiratory syndrome = SARS severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 = SARS coronavirus 2 they are not necessarily 重症康复者
现在跟covid19相关的funding特别好申,审批时间短 一股脑都在申呢
这个论坛一群控评的可惜方向都不对。。。
太弱了。。。
100个病人, 18个无症状, 67个都没住院。住院的只有33个,一大半轻症和无症状吧, 怎么不能说大量无症状和轻症了?
同意。楼主是对的。全文里描述了的
控评的普遍学历不够,每天笑话不断
我是历次保险涨价的受害者啊 反而政府发钱这种好事一次也没够着过
发财的机会到了。。。
提前买好心脏疾病的公司股票。。。
Pericarditis 是心包炎,不是冠心病 (Coronary Heart Disease)
哈 哈 哈
只能说隔行如隔山,医学论文不是人人都能读懂。这一回很多普通人卷入到医学之争中,完全没有必要。因为他们确实搞不懂。
其实很多人论文都读不懂张嘴就能胡说。。。
当然我说的是那些控评的。。。
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那么如果总样本5人,其中无症状3人你们就敢说大量患者都是轻症,结果如何如何了对吗?良心何在?!
这篇文章没有专门研究无症状组,楼主却强调无症状者,居心何在?!
你去问问写论文的人居心何在?
不让大统领选上了么?
不让复工复学了是么?
这帮德国人太可恶了 !
写论文的人完整提供了数据,没有强调无症状者。强调的是楼主
你没写过paper吧。
5个可以说sample size太小。100个算是一个decent的sample size了。
18人呢 楼主强调的是这18人
Most patients recovered at home (n = 67), with severity of the acute COVID-19 illness ranging from asymptomatic (n = 18) to minor to moderate symptoms (n = 49).
67%的无症状或者轻症状患者,只有33个人严重的需要住院的
你一遍一遍的重复啥呢。。。自己读读论文不行么。。。
医院早被心脏病患者挤满了
epidemiology professor 懂个屁病毒,epidemiology 就是流行病学,流行病学是研究疾病和营养,社会阶层,人种,自身身体状况这些关系,这些人没有什么医学训练,许多事统计学专业和Social Worker。
他们不懂病毒,也不知道药能治疗病毒机理。他们最多问卷统计病人吃了什么药,病人多长时间痊愈。然后数据库里搞统计。
这些对病毒一窍不通人来推荐药,还不如去信巫医。
川粉真是反智,居然要流行病学教授开药。 一种药对一种病毒有没有效果,副作用什么,需要病毒学家来做结论,而不是搞统计出生的流行病学家。
你自己说的是不是人话?你强调无症状是不是吓唬人
我们版上也有个统计学家啊,Czboy
每天一贴一图告诉你病毒减弱了
可惜我屏蔽了,哈哈
其实可以和普通感冒对比一下,更有说服力一些。
有些发炎也需要长点儿时间监测一下预后。
智商堪忧。。。
就算大部分人,无症状或者轻症状
我只说无症状了么。。。
无语😒
SARS boy
是啊,你还用高智商说“可能”呢。可能多了,大于0都是可能,反正没说错。
你牛逼,人家流行病学教授不如你权威,张口川粉闭口川粉,反对你的观点就是川粉,没见过你如此厚颜无耻之人
可能单纯宅家过久憋得慌吧。。。
的确比较吓人,希望其他实验再验证一下。 在家自行康复的人有用药么?
天天去办公室上班啊,超市也跑,餐馆也吃。本来就宅,现在宅的差不多。
那你平时接触人挺多的啊。。。
急诊医生你说不行 流行病医生你也说不行 你上行不行?
都快自闭了 还叫见的人多么....
可是看你描述比这个论坛上很多人都不宅啊
之前讨论过有人还有几个月没出门的。。。
外卖买菜。。。
对啊 华人上的帖子就是全世界了,论坛里面说啥他们现实就在干啥。不上华人的人也多了去了。跟华人里面宅家几个月,天天宅急送的贵人比,我接触的人真的有点多。
这位啥英文阅读水平啊
说实话这个文章比较扯淡,无症状,轻症,重症的cohort放在一起,最后给个78%心脏有问题的总数……而且这个轻中重的比例也不是符合自然分布的,然后说不是selected cohort,那为啥要选33%的重症?为啥不是3%呢?
完全不懂你纠结着扣这个字眼干嘛呢。。。
看了两眼原文,不知道这个心脏问题还能自己慢慢恢复吗,还是永久性的?
的确挺吓人的
不过可能很多人没概念对心脏有影响 以为就是心脏病了 随时要heart attack了 没那么夸张
其实流感造成心脏影响也很普遍 八十年代那时候流感啊后来心脏不大好很常见的 那时候医疗水平差 我小时候的老师就是 总是下午放我们自习 她去熬中药吃。。。
不会都是吃hcq 吃出来的后遗症吧😎
看看paper就不矛盾了,18个无症状的,轻症49,重症33, 78个心肌炎的估计没有无症状的,但是90%轻症都会受影响
这论文太配合当前MSM的宣传口径了,让人不禁想起了那篇著名的关于hcq的柳叶刀论文、、、
是,柳叶刀是假的,这篇心脏病学的论文是为了配合MSM宣传的
一群德国科学家,为了美国选举都拼命了
你们说川粉不反智,我为啥就不信呢。。。
单纯纠正你一下,epidemiologists 流行病那个真的不是医生...和医生一点边都不沾。基本都是每天和电脑数据打交道的