Men Going Their Own Way: https://www.mgtow.com 北美索男结婚前,一定要研究婚姻法。大致的结论就是:男方基本就是奴隶,既得不到孩子,还要大把打把的被抽钱。 在美国,大约80%的离婚都是女方发起的,因为利益很大,可以不上班,白拿钱,而且是很多钱。 能不婚就不婚。想要孩子,就想办法自己挣高薪,找人代孕,加州是合法的。也可以收养。 要结婚,就要找个收入水平差不多的。
太不一样了,就拿NY的来说,domestic partner is recognized by city and state, but not on the federal level,如果对方不是公民你不可以petition的。 还有married couples automatically inherit each other''s asset upon death, these assets are inherited without taxes occurred, this''s not the case for domestic partners. Domestic partners can only inherit through a will, and subject to taxes.....还有很多很多的不同 如果要说不同区别小的话,是婚生跟非婚生的孩子在对于生物父母的遗产继承上面,但是美国基本上人人都有WILL,公民标配。
As I said...gf/bf can still have kids, you don't need to be either legal spouse or registered domestic partner.. 只要有女人愿意,男人愿意,Which is very common in NY
再讲一遍,男女朋友,就可以生孩子,你谈恋爱都跟女朋友同居吗?我身边的朋友都是自己有自己的property住着,虽然周末过节都在一起,有的即使长时间为了孩子一起住,文件上都不需要对方的名字,自己有自己的房子,人要的就是自由。 摘取一些NY的如下万一有人需要呢。 New York Consolidated Laws PBH § 2961 New York City Administrative Code § 3-241 (navigate to code section from index) 如何登记 Both partners must be residents of county or city in which you're applying;* Both partners must be 18 or older; Neither partner is married or related by blood; Applicants are in a close and committed personal relationship, live together, and have been living together continuously for 6 months; and Neither partner was in another domestic partnership within the preceding 6 months. *For applicants in New York City, Rockland County, and Suffolk County, one partner may be an employee of a company based in that jurisdiction (rather than a resident); non-residents may apply in Albany, Ithica, and Rochester. The rights of domestic partners include the following: Family leave for bereavement and child care Visitation in New York City-operating hospitals, prisons, and other institutions (for those registered in NYC) Addition to a rental agreement as a family member; Eligibility for health benefits provided by certain cities (including New York City, Albany, Rochester, and Ithaca) Eligibility for health insurance, life insurance, death benefits, and other such benefits typically available to married couples Note: Your domestic partnership certificate is legal proof of your relationship and is adequate documentation when applying for certain benefits.
As I said...gf/bf can still have kids, you don't need to be either legal spouse or registered domestic partner.. 只要有女人愿意,男人愿意,Which is very common in NY cqcq 发表于 2020-07-19 14:03
能不婚就不婚。想要孩子,就想办法自己挣高薪,找人代孕,加州是合法的。也可以收养。 要结婚,就要找个收入水平差不多的。
我只能说要先懂法。去看看demonstic partner的法律,就知道这种情况的财产判决和结婚是一样的。 还是被女方用歧视性的法律和国家机器的绞索套上了。
太不一样了,就拿NY的来说,domestic partner is recognized by city and state, but not on the federal level,如果对方不是公民你不可以petition的。 还有married couples automatically inherit each other''s asset upon death, these assets are inherited without taxes occurred, this''s not the case for domestic partners. Domestic partners can only inherit through a will, and subject to taxes.....还有很多很多的不同
如果要说不同区别小的话,是婚生跟非婚生的孩子在对于生物父母的遗产继承上面,但是美国基本上人人都有WILL,公民标配。
所以 economically attractive 的男生,选择结婚还是不少的 。。。 现实就是纽约只有圣女现象,又没有圣男现象 。。。 这总不能归结为纽约没有女权不开化 。
婚姻法是在State的,不是在联邦的。 遗产的问题可以通过trust和will解决。 但是alimony,还有所谓的维持生活水准不变...这些扯淡的东西还是给套上了。
结婚地点可以判决,但是当前的居住地也可以判决。 两边的法院都可以受理。
As I said...gf/bf can still have kids, you don't need to be either legal spouse or registered domestic partner.. 只要有女人愿意,男人愿意,Which is very common in NY
再说一遍,要懂法。 有些州,即使没有register,只要被认定是parterner那样生活,那么partern期间的财产还是可以要求平分,但是没有support。
再讲一遍,男女朋友,就可以生孩子,你谈恋爱都跟女朋友同居吗?我身边的朋友都是自己有自己的property住着,虽然周末过节都在一起,有的即使长时间为了孩子一起住,文件上都不需要对方的名字,自己有自己的房子,人要的就是自由。 摘取一些NY的如下万一有人需要呢。
New York Consolidated Laws PBH § 2961 New York City Administrative Code § 3-241 (navigate to code section from index) 如何登记
Both partners must be residents of county or city in which you're applying;* Both partners must be 18 or older; Neither partner is married or related by blood; Applicants are in a close and committed personal relationship, live together, and have been living together continuously for 6 months; and Neither partner was in another domestic partnership within the preceding 6 months. *For applicants in New York City, Rockland County, and Suffolk County, one partner may be an employee of a company based in that jurisdiction (rather than a resident); non-residents may apply in Albany, Ithica, and Rochester.
The rights of domestic partners include the following: Family leave for bereavement and child care Visitation in New York City-operating hospitals, prisons, and other institutions (for those registered in NYC) Addition to a rental agreement as a family member; Eligibility for health benefits provided by certain cities (including New York City, Albany, Rochester, and Ithaca) Eligibility for health insurance, life insurance, death benefits, and other such benefits typically available to married couples Note: Your domestic partnership certificate is legal proof of your relationship and is adequate documentation when applying for certain benefits.
你没有抓到point。法律从来都没有要求结婚才能生孩子。 要点是法律对财产分配的问题。Partner关系也是有对男性歧视的法律。
你没有抓到point.我都说了,法律讲的是证据,你跟你女朋友生一堆娃,你跟你女朋友各自住各自的(文件上来看,没有一起的租约,没有共同账户没有合买的固定资产),那么你对你女朋友没有obligation,你女朋友对你也没有,你们俩增加的obligation都是对孩子的。
另外,公正的说合法夫妻或者注册同居关系,法律by default照顾的是经济能力弱的一方,不是歧视男性。 但是现在法律蛮健全得了,无论结婚还是合法同居都可以起草额外的文件保证这段关系失效以后自己不在经济上吃亏。 本身美国倡导的价值观就是对家庭付出的人也是有价值的,人的价值不是单从Salary上来的,当然现在golddigger codedigger不少无论男女,所以入市风险prenup盛行也可以理解。
嫌麻烦的,如我朋友们就不需要总跟法律打交道了嘛,各自保持单身的生活,生娃就是了。
是的。不能住一起,也不能用同一个地址,也不能有共同账户。 要尽量尽量的隔离。 只是我不知道,索男能不能找到这样的华女。
abc好多都是这样的了,其实讲真的,物以类聚。 你自己是不在乎benefit的人就会吸引同样的人,你是总算计的人也会吸引一样的人。 我儿子的老师,我知道的3个女的都是生了孩子没领证的,男的收入跟他们相当,其中一个我玩的比较近聊过,她们都认为彼此都没准备好要对对方做这么大的承诺,但是同时双方又很喜欢小盆友(33+)认为目前的状态是最好的,没麻烦没操心都能做父母, 我个人满同意的。
另外这么搞的人大多数都比较有人格魅力。。
我标题就说了“索男”。给索南指了条路,赚钱,买卵子,代孕。这样最省心。
为啥要算那么精准啊,比如你收入15万,找一个收入8万的女人生孩子过日子就蛮好的啊,不一定非要也找15万的,这种收入差离婚的时候女方基本上分布到钱啊。。
所以我还在下面补了一条:结婚的话,女方也要有相当的收入。 不过很多女的会提前两三年就准备离婚,包括辞职在家,把收入将为0。
要点还是提醒索南:美国法律有对男方系统性的歧视,结婚需谨慎。 先了解后法律,再选择接不结婚,和谁结婚,还是MGTOW。
那还是要找保姆吧
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NY要满10年婚龄才可以申请spouse support..而且据我看到的实际例子,普通都是拿W2的普通工资(20W以下)还有房贷孩子的,离婚的女的基本上拿不到什么钱。。。。。。
嗯这个现象很有意思。那么非婚生小孩没有一个相对稳定的爸爸,对于女方不是一个大的concern吗?
这里指的是华裔亚裔。
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其实也挺麻烦的
第一,以后结婚的话,有个代孕的孩子在这里,也是个issue,当然technically算作离婚的也可以,不是很大issue
第二,财产方面是分割不开的,孩子总能分到吧,那么和她妈总有关系吧
第三,代孕妈妈以后还可以再婚,比如嫁了一个混混,那么additional hassle就会来临