不是丧尸电影,纽约街头发现60具高度腐烂的尸体 (ZT)

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atomicmass
楼主 (北美华人网)
纽约当地电视台新闻: https://www.pix11.com/news/coronavirus/dozens-of-bodies-stored-in-u-haul-trucks-outside-brooklyn-funeral-home-police-source

警察局接到一通电话:一家殡仪馆外停着两辆卡车,散发出可怕的恶臭。警方迅速赶到
现场,发现了一个惊悚的事实:车里装着数十具已经腐烂的尸体。

这不是电影情节!真实的一幕发生在纽约布鲁克林。
综合《纽约时报》、《纽约邮报》、CNN报道,当地时间4月29日上午11点,在布鲁克林
的尤蒂卡大街的一家殡仪馆外,警察在2辆散发恶臭的卡车中发现了数十具腐烂的尸体。

除了这2辆冷藏失效的卡车装着腐尸外,现场还有另外2辆冷藏正常的卡车也存放着尸体
,另外有1辆卡车里则塞满了空棺材。
《纽约邮报》的报道援引消息人士的话称,从车中流出的液体散发出恶臭,这使得周边
商店的店主报警求助,这些尸体本应被送往火葬场,但没有被取走。

布鲁克林区区长埃里克·亚当斯(Eric L. Adams)于当天下午5时15分左右到达克莱克
利殡仪馆外,此时警察已经封锁了街道,对卡车进行调查。
亚当斯说:“看起来是那辆卡车已经装满了,他们试图用U-Haul的车作为补充。”他还
补充道,这件事对家庭成员们造成了心理创伤。
当天晚上,纽约市几个机构也参与了对卡车的调查行动,这条街道的一部分已经对公众
关闭。
殡仪馆隔壁大楼的业主约翰·德佩特罗(John DePietro)表示,他周二注意到有五辆
车停在殡仪馆外。他说:“他们的货车和卡车里都有尸体。这些尸体装在尸袋里,一个
压着一个。”
德佩特罗还补充,他无法“肯定地判断”车上有多少尸体,“但它们都被塞满了。”
《纽约时报》指出,纽约市的医院太平间、墓地、火葬场在最近几周面临沉重的压力。
其中殡仪馆面对的压力最为沉重,一边是不断送来的尸体,一边是无法迅速火化导致的
尸体积压。被夹在这中间的殡仪馆不得不使用冷藏拖车来存放尸体,有些则直接把小教
堂改成临时停尸房,用大功率空调来制冷。
一位不愿透明姓名的官员向《纽约时报》表示,这家殡仪馆在制冷停止正常运作后,仍
在使用卡车装尸体。纽约卫生部门在声明中指出,殡仪馆均被要求在适当条件下存放等
待处理的尸体,并应该遵守相应的感染预防控制措施。

 

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花生芝麻
138 楼
真是人间惨剧...
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meningitis
137 楼
本来我老还想说点啥的。算了。
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nj_guy
136 楼
我是发现了,美国发生什么糟糕的事情轮子都能帮他们找到开脱的理由,中国发生什么不好的事情轮子都能扯到中共和集权制度问题
王秋梦 发表于 5/2/2020 10:27:24 PM


因为你不明白在美国,无论好坏都是透明的,都可以拿出来说,任何的决定,无论对错,都是可以辩论的。比如复工的事,人们可以拿枪去州政府示威,表达自己的看法。所以无论将来发生什么,大家对过程是了解的。你可以把总统换掉,但你不能说总统做的决定不代表人民(至少部份人民)的看法。而中国政府做的任何决定都没有这种合法性,因为谁都不知道这个决定是怎样做出的。

所以美国做的任何事情,无论对错都是可以“洗地”的。
王秋梦
135 楼
我是发现了,美国发生什么糟糕的事情轮子都能帮他们找到开脱的理由,中国发生什么不好的事情轮子都能扯到中共和集权制度问题
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Namama
134 楼
你也好意思说历史,我们现在说的就是二战后的历史,谁跟你扯一战殖民地时代。
现代民主发达国家的概念是二战以后才确定的。
印度二战前都不是独立国家。

meningitis 发表于 5/2/2020 4:05:57 PM


呵呵,不说历史你估计都不记得发达国家当初是怎么发展起来的
和所谓的民主自由有个屁关系

对,印度二战前是被剥削的殖民地。所以二战后独立至今好了那么久的民主社会,他们成发达国家了吗?
那你说个毛

 

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chmod999
没有配图 差评 点进来感觉被骗了
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Sebastian
纽约四面环水,阴气重,平时聚财,华尔街繁荣,这时候有了瘟疫就是大阴殿
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coalpilerd
妈呀,把死尸装u-haul。u-haul才真要哭倒在厕所吧,这几辆车以后租不出去了。
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fitzroy
纽约需要方方和圆圆
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singwah
有液体流出来了还不处理?这可是污染源啊
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sssccc
当地电视台都报了还需要方方和圆圆做什么?当然多几个方方圆圆也无所谓,纽约可以人人都是方方和圆圆,只要他们愿意。
纽约需要方方和圆圆 fitzroy 发表于 5/1/2020 10:20:00 AM
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cannie
当地电视台都报了还需要方方和圆圆做什么?当然多几个方方圆圆也无所谓,纽约可以人人都是方方和圆圆,只要他们愿意。

sssccc 发表于 5/1/2020 10:34:30 AM


媒体写的太客观, 不够煽情。 但是美国人也不喜欢煽情的。 说实话我也不喜欢whiny
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ca563
总共有60具尸体,现在市政府送了辆新冷藏车来。https://www.foxnews.com/us/dozens-of-bodies-found-u-haul-trucks-outside-nyc-funeral-home https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/bodies-stored-in-trucks-at-brooklyn-funeral-home-sources/ 其实疫情严重不严重不能完全看当地医疗系统是否崩溃。毕竟只要提高收治标准,放松出院标准,再加上快速死亡,提高翻台率就不会崩。只有殡葬业才是真实的反应。武汉当初是外地支援,意大利是满教堂棺材,西班牙和英国是溜冰场储尸,纽约底特律的冷藏车里摞body。
暖暖_恋尘
悲惨世界,哎,纽约
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CoCaC0LA
唉,烧不过来了吧
冬日暖阳1
回复 11楼CoCaC0LA的帖子

看了,好恐怖

如果都是covid 病人的尸体,不知会造成传播不

尸体的处理程序绝对有问题。
尾鱼
楼主你要把纽约改成中国某处地名才会在论坛提高点击率。
我想保护你
唉,烧不过来了吧
CoCaC0LA 发表于 5/1/2020 10:50:11 AM
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meningitis
纽约焚尸炉肯定不够应付这种疫情。参考当时的武汉,本来就是强制火化,24小时加班加点,都不够用。
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MandyF
看新闻还滴了很多水出来,这些水会不会有传染性啊
弹指芳华
中文的新闻现在没法看。看了英文的,基本都在说埋,说明是土葬的。土葬比火化慢得多。这个时候为啥不考虑火化?
冬日暖阳1
回复 1楼atomicmass的帖子

想不出美国是这种处理尸体的方式,从医院或家里拉出来就应该严格密封了吧。

https://www.yahoo.com/news/horribly-treating-dead-brooklyn-084031033.html
his Is How Horribly They’re Treating the Dead in BrooklynMichael Daly

The Daily BeastMay 1, 2020, 4:40 AM EDT




Courtesy Zeqway Clarke Zeqway Clarke was in the back pew in the upstairs chapel at the Andrew D. Cleckley Funeral Home in Brooklyn when he chanced to gaze under the coffin and see what looked like a bare foot. “You could see it,” he later told The Daily Beast. “You could actually look under the casket and see it. I asked somebody else, ‘Is that a foot?’” Clarke was there on April 9 with his wife and daughters and a small number of relatives in masks and gloves, bidding farewell to her grandfather, 88-year-old Francois Jules. The pastor continued conducting the service as Clarke gazed at what was indeed a bare foot visible beneath the hem of the cloth backdrop closing off the front of the room. At the end of the service, Clarke went up for a final parting moment with Jules, a military veteran and retired graveyard security guard, who was recovering from a stroke in Kings County Hospital when he was fatally struck by COVID-19. Clarke used the moment by the coffin to raise his cellphone above the cord on which the backdrop hung. “I stuck the phone up and took a picture,” the 39-year-old entrepreneur recalled. He did not see the result until he returned to his seat and checked his phone. “It was just bodies, bodies on the floor, people on top of each other,” he said. The picture, which he later shared with The Daily Beast, showed at least eight bodies had been left haphazardly on the floor. They were only partly covered by sheets or quilts and appeared to be unclothed. Three of the faces were visible. “Horrified,” Clarke said of his reaction.
Zeqway Clarke was attending the funeral of a relative who died of coronavirus when he spotted what looked like a bare foot behind a curtain.
Courtesy Zeqway Clarke
More Twenty days later, the whole city was horrified when police responded to complaints of a foul odor coming from two trucks parked in front of this same funeral home. They discovered dozens of bodies decomposing inside. The owner, 41-year-old Andrew Cleckley, told police that he had been unable to get cemeteries and crematories to accept enough bodies to keep his facility from overflowing. “I am out of space,” he was quoted telling The New York Times. “Bodies are coming out of our ears.” Clarke lives in the neighborhood, and he had walked past the funeral home with his daughters, aged 15 and 16, as the pandemic was intensifying. He noticed that the usual hearse and men in suits and ties had been replaced by rental trucks and men in work clothes. “It looked like they just picked up some winos off the street: ‘Yo, we’ll give you some money,’” Clarke recalled. “I said to my kids, ‘It looks like they’re bringing these bodies in U-Haul trucks.’ It looked like they were bringing in more and more bodies and the place is not even that big.” ‘It’s Never Been Like This’: Coronavirus Deaths Overwhelm New York Funeral Workers The daughters now saw their father’s cellphone photo of what lay just beyond the backdrop behind the coffin. “My daughters said, ‘What?’” Clarke reported. “That’s the first time my children actually seen something like that.” “As a parent you want them to know that’s not right,” he later said. “You want them to know people should be treated with respect.” He noted to himself that there was no air conditioning in the chapel. “Not cool,” he said in more than one sense. “In regular room temperature like that, what’s going to happen?” As he and his family resumed sheltering in place, Clarke considered reporting to the authorities what he had photographed. “[But] there was so much going on with the pandemic, social distancing, I figured it hell or high water to get in contact with somebody,” he recalled. He decided just to post the photographic evidence on Facebook. Some commenters noted that funeral homes were overwhelmed. Most comments were unalloyed outrage. Then came the discovery of the decomposing bodies in the trucks outside the funeral home. Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams responded to the scene. He later said that much the same is happening throughout New York as the usual progression from hospital and morgue to funeral parlor to cemetery and crematorium has backed up. “We have an emergency going on right now,” Adams told The Daily Beast. “I’m surprised we don’t have cars stuffed with bodies.” He added, “There is so much more we could do to better move this situation forward.” To that end, he is establishing a Bereavement Task Force that will begin meeting next week. “We’re going to bring people in the room in every aspect of this industry and sit down and hear directly from them what we should be doing to coordinate this operation,” he said. Cleckley hung up twice when The Daily Beast sought comment, the second time suggesting the reporter ask crematories why they are not taking more bodies from funeral directors. Cleckley no doubt was facing problems the death industry could not have imagined before COVID-19 turned the city into the global epicenter. But he could have been more easily forgiven were it not for the photo Clarke blindly took of what was going on behind the backdrop. NYC Is Taking Hundreds of Body Bags Out of Houses—and Soon They Will Be Counted No matter how inundated the funeral home may have been, and no matter how frightened the workers may have been of catching the virus themselves, there is no excuse for just leaving bodies every which way. Only a moment would have been needed to pull a sheet up over a face or cover bare limbs. “I BEEN TELLING Y’ALL ABOUT THIS PLACE AND WHAT THEY DOING,” Clarke declared on Facebook after the Wednesday raid. I’M HAPPY ITS FINALLY ALL OVER THE NEWS!!!!!...😢😢😢RESPECT PEOPLE FAMILY...SAD SAD SAD.” And the photo he blindly took with his upraised phone now teaches us what his daughters learned regarding the importance of simple respect even when overwhelmed at the global epicenter of the pandemic.
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ca563
中文的新闻现在没法看。看了英文的,基本都在说埋,说明是土葬的。土葬比火化慢得多。这个时候为啥不考虑火化?
弹指芳华 发表于 5/1/2020 12:23:25 PM

你才没有看英文原文吧?英文的报道都说的是来不及烧的 “The funeral home told officers that the bodies were supposed to be going to a crematorium but its staff didn’t come to pick them up, sources told The Post”
冬日暖阳1
回复 9楼ca563的帖子
这篇报道怎么说是100具尸体

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/funeral-home-100-bodies-truck-trailers-brooklyn-new-york/67-3db14b8c-883a-4988-bc4f-0d3fca6d5563

100 bodies found decomposing in rental trucks outside New York funeral home

The state health department is investigating.
Author: Dale Greenstein (WTSP)
Published: 9:18 AM EDT April 30, 2020
Updated: 9:18 AM EDT April 30, 2020
BROOKLYN, N.Y. — Editor's warning: This story contains pictures of body bags that may be disturbing for some readers.

New York is ground zero for the coronavirus pandemic. More than 14,000 people have died in the five boroughs alone, according to the New York Times – nearly five times more than the number of people killed in the 9/11 terror attacks.
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dandan2012
So sad.... can’t believe this is happening in NYC at 21st century
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ccang1234
让那些游行要复工的来看看。
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ecuecon
妈呀,把死尸装u-haul。u-haul才真要哭倒在厕所吧,这几辆车以后租不出去了。
coalpilerd 发表于 5/1/2020 10:19:31 AM


谁会知道哪个车装过dead body?
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Heiniu
天! 昨天那个自杀的急诊室医生的妹妹被采访说,她姐姐真的受不了那种人间地狱的感觉自杀的。人分分钟的死,当医生的根本救不过来。
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lgnw
川总,纽约市长,纽约州长,赶紧看看怎么搞的。大好的开工局面被这些殡仪馆弄到乌烟瘴气。
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lgnw
这个板上还有美国人在讨论对中国失望不失望,关心一下你自己脚下的土地。
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lvk
川总,纽约市长,纽约州长,赶紧看看怎么搞的。大好的开工局面被这些殡仪馆弄到乌烟瘴气。
lgnw 发表于 5/1/2020 5:36:50 PM

大家的记忆力有限,过几天一切都会正常。要不新闻再把三胖炒一下?
君已陌路
让那些游行要复工的来看看。
ccang1234 发表于 5/1/2020 4:47:11 PM
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miss6161
叹为观止啊!
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miss6161
+11111
这个板上还有美国人在讨论对中国失望不失望,关心一下你自己脚下的土地。 lgnw 发表于 5/1/2020 5:41:00 PM
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Jennyw2017
R.I.P
甜甜天蓝
So sad. RIP.
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Jennyw2017
在美华人不能戴滤镜看美国,戴显微镜看中国。这样对华人整体只有坏处。
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yaner11
回复 1楼atomicmass的帖子

想不出美国是这种处理尸体的方式,从医院或家里拉出来就应该严格密封了吧。

https://www.yahoo.com/news/horribly-treating-dead-brooklyn-084031033.html
his Is How Horribly They’re Treating the Dead in BrooklynMichael Daly

The Daily BeastMay 1, 2020, 4:40 AM EDT




Courtesy Zeqway Clarke Zeqway Clarke was in the back pew in the upstairs chapel at the Andrew D. Cleckley Funeral Home in Brooklyn when he chanced to gaze under the coffin and see what looked like a bare foot. “You could see it,” he later told The Daily Beast. “You could actually look under the casket and see it. I asked somebody else, ‘Is that a foot?’” Clarke was there on April 9 with his wife and daughters and a small number of relatives in masks and gloves, bidding farewell to her grandfather, 88-year-old Francois Jules. The pastor continued conducting the service as Clarke gazed at what was indeed a bare foot visible beneath the hem of the cloth backdrop closing off the front of the room. At the end of the service, Clarke went up for a final parting moment with Jules, a military veteran and retired graveyard security guard, who was recovering from a stroke in Kings County Hospital when he was fatally struck by COVID-19. Clarke used the moment by the coffin to raise his cellphone above the cord on which the backdrop hung. “I stuck the phone up and took a picture,” the 39-year-old entrepreneur recalled. He did not see the result until he returned to his seat and checked his phone. “It was just bodies, bodies on the floor, people on top of each other,” he said. The picture, which he later shared with The Daily Beast, showed at least eight bodies had been left haphazardly on the floor. They were only partly covered by sheets or quilts and appeared to be unclothed. Three of the faces were visible. “Horrified,” Clarke said of his reaction.
Zeqway Clarke was attending the funeral of a relative who died of coronavirus when he spotted what looked like a bare foot behind a curtain.
Courtesy Zeqway Clarke
More Twenty days later, the whole city was horrified when police responded to complaints of a foul odor coming from two trucks parked in front of this same funeral home. They discovered dozens of bodies decomposing inside. The owner, 41-year-old Andrew Cleckley, told police that he had been unable to get cemeteries and crematories to accept enough bodies to keep his facility from overflowing. “I am out of space,” he was quoted telling The New York Times. “Bodies are coming out of our ears.” Clarke lives in the neighborhood, and he had walked past the funeral home with his daughters, aged 15 and 16, as the pandemic was intensifying. He noticed that the usual hearse and men in suits and ties had been replaced by rental trucks and men in work clothes. “It looked like they just picked up some winos off the street: ‘Yo, we’ll give you some money,’” Clarke recalled. “I said to my kids, ‘It looks like they’re bringing these bodies in U-Haul trucks.’ It looked like they were bringing in more and more bodies and the place is not even that big.” ‘It’s Never Been Like This’: Coronavirus Deaths Overwhelm New York Funeral Workers The daughters now saw their father’s cellphone photo of what lay just beyond the backdrop behind the coffin. “My daughters said, ‘What?’” Clarke reported. “That’s the first time my children actually seen something like that.” “As a parent you want them to know that’s not right,” he later said. “You want them to know people should be treated with respect.” He noted to himself that there was no air conditioning in the chapel. “Not cool,” he said in more than one sense. “In regular room temperature like that, what’s going to happen?” As he and his family resumed sheltering in place, Clarke considered reporting to the authorities what he had photographed. “[But] there was so much going on with the pandemic, social distancing, I figured it hell or high water to get in contact with somebody,” he recalled. He decided just to post the photographic evidence on Facebook. Some commenters noted that funeral homes were overwhelmed. Most comments were unalloyed outrage. Then came the discovery of the decomposing bodies in the trucks outside the funeral home. Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams responded to the scene. He later said that much the same is happening throughout New York as the usual progression from hospital and morgue to funeral parlor to cemetery and crematorium has backed up. “We have an emergency going on right now,” Adams told The Daily Beast. “I’m surprised we don’t have cars stuffed with bodies.” He added, “There is so much more we could do to better move this situation forward.” To that end, he is establishing a Bereavement Task Force that will begin meeting next week. “We’re going to bring people in the room in every aspect of this industry and sit down and hear directly from them what we should be doing to coordinate this operation,” he said. Cleckley hung up twice when The Daily Beast sought comment, the second time suggesting the reporter ask crematories why they are not taking more bodies from funeral directors. Cleckley no doubt was facing problems the death industry could not have imagined before COVID-19 turned the city into the global epicenter. But he could have been more easily forgiven were it not for the photo Clarke blindly took of what was going on behind the backdrop. NYC Is Taking Hundreds of Body Bags Out of Houses—and Soon They Will Be Counted No matter how inundated the funeral home may have been, and no matter how frightened the workers may have been of catching the virus themselves, there is no excuse for just leaving bodies every which way. Only a moment would have been needed to pull a sheet up over a face or cover bare limbs. “I BEEN TELLING Y’ALL ABOUT THIS PLACE AND WHAT THEY DOING,” Clarke declared on Facebook after the Wednesday raid. I’M HAPPY ITS FINALLY ALL OVER THE NEWS!!!!!...😢😢😢RESPECT PEOPLE FAMILY...SAD SAD SAD.” And the photo he blindly took with his upraised phone now teaches us what his daughters learned regarding the importance of simple respect even when overwhelmed at the global epicenter of the pandemic.

冬日暖阳1 发表于 5/1/2020 12:24:02 PM

被这个图片吓到了,连个裹尸袋都没有吗?
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wowojia3010
妈呀,把死尸装u-haul。u-haul才真要哭倒在厕所吧,这几辆车以后租不出去了。
coalpilerd 发表于 5/1/2020 10:19:31 AM

谁知道这些车装过尸体啊?消费者要哭死了好吧?
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caribou
天!

昨天那个自杀的急诊室医生的妹妹被采访说,她姐姐真的受不了那种人间地狱的感觉自杀的。人分分钟的死,当医生的根本救不过来。
Heiniu 发表于 5/1/2020 5:21:55 PM

这个医生的妹妹说有人在ER waiting room 就死了。 只要不及时收治,医疗永远不崩溃.
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complicated
天,真的和死只老鼠猫一样,叹气
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lastunas
回复 37楼lastunas的帖子 这个护士在自己工作的布鲁克林医院染了新冠,住院也没有人管她,还要她自己换输液袋。
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lastunas
回复 39楼lastunas的帖子 现在昏迷了。小孩破腹产生了
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MingJiang
回复 1楼atomicmass的帖子 https://6abc.com/health/pregnant-nurse-caring-for-covid-19-patients-contracts-virus/6141269/
lastunas 发表于 2020-05-01 19:25

大脑缺氧四分钟,昏迷中。 孩子剖腹产。太可怜了。
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Namama
这个真是太惨了。。
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hebbychu
回复 1楼atomicmass的帖子
我日,醫療沒崩潰,運尸體的反而不行?垃圾
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spes08
So sad. RIP
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Namama
在美华人不能戴滤镜看美国,戴显微镜看中国。这样对华人整体只有坏处。
Jennyw2017 发表于 5/1/2020 7:07:23 PM

很多人就是恨国党,逢中必反。。让他们客观点根本办不到
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ca563
那个地上堆满尸体的照片太吓人了,平时看body bag还没这么可怕,这个露胳膊露腿的感觉一下子就不一样了,真真切切感受到每一个都是和我们一样的人。
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relay
RIP。 感觉new york应该是美国最惨的地方了。唉。
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Beau
当初说武汉火葬场日夜不停烧尸体如何惨绝人寰,结果现实是纽约日夜不停烧甚至出动军方收尸部队都收不完,冷冻货车都不够用以至于尸体高度腐烂。。。
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meningitis
美国是土葬为主的国家,突然大量死亡尸体拉去火化是不现实的。
中国是火化为主的国家,有远比美国多得多的焚化炉,即使这样武汉都应付不过来。
你这么简单粗暴地比较纽约跟武汉,你有没有良心。除非动用军队挖坑用火焰喷射器烧,那更加要被骂死。
现在来说,就是纽约的殡仪馆被击穿了。
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weiyixia
也太能洗涤了。纽约的那个什么岛挖掘机填埋,人家无人机都拍下来了。难道挖坑比火葬难度大?顺便说一下,那个用无人机航拍的还被告了 。
王秋梦
在武汉发生这样悲惨的事情时所有矛头都对准了专制制度,纽约发生这样的事情,就没人指责民主制度,真是双标啊
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cable
回复 4楼coalpilerd的帖子 这个车肯定不会再用了吧?
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meningitis
如果不考虑人权,可以集中尸体焚化,挖一个大坑一次可以烧几百具尸体。 问题是民选政府是不可能这么干的。
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minijing
如果不考虑人权,可以集中尸体焚化,挖一个大坑一次可以烧几百具尸体。
问题是民选政府是不可能这么干的。
meningitis 发表于 5/1/2020 9:55:43 PM

想当然了吧,挖个大坑埋几百具倒有可能,烧几百具,那附近还能闻么?你没看火葬场都是高高的烟囱?
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singingIris
回复 3楼Sebastian的帖子
华尔街不义之财赚多了,福祸自招。
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TotallyNaked
在武汉发生这样悲惨的事情时所有矛头都对准了专制制度,纽约发生这样的事情,就没人指责民主制度,真是双标啊
王秋梦 发表于 5/1/2020 9:51:11 PM

武汉哪有这样的事情 你瞎说什么
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akara1101
在武汉发生这样悲惨的事情时所有矛头都对准了专制制度,纽约发生这样的事情,就没人指责民主制度,真是双标啊
王秋梦 发表于 2020-05-01 21:51

就是,话不能乱讲,不造谣不传谣哦。武汉不是只死了3千多么,哪里来的惨了,拿出正规报道来再喷。独运轮吧,就不要来搅和了,谁信啊
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meningitis

想当然了吧,挖个大坑埋几百具倒有可能,烧几百具,那附近还能闻么?你没看火葬场都是高高的烟囱?

minijing 发表于 5/1/2020 9:57:55 PM

找个无人海岛,挖个大坑,灌满汽油,烧个三天三夜,然后盖好土就行了。
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mailshuxin
明显这个帖子不火,没人关心 那些整天把美国伟大挂在嘴上的才是最大的国贼
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mylittle9
Rip. 又是一个国别一换,回帖上万的帖子。
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meningitis
这个是美国纽约当地电视台播放的新闻,又不是什么政府想掩盖,被自媒体捅到海外媒体播出。 关注度自然不一样。
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jackwonglstc
看了这个帖子,居然没有看到几个定体问,我陷思的。 当初武汉,哪怕就是火葬场看到几个尸袋,看看下面的回帖。那个酸爽。 我还是那句话,论洗脑,我只服美国和华人论坛。
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meningitis
我说了这跟武汉当时的情况很相似,就是殡仪馆被击穿,很多患者的尸体都来不及处理。
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mimibaobei
纽约太惨了
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NYC158
州长、市长表现很糟糕。
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puyou
所以民选政府治理下的社会的做法就是让尸体腐烂到流水,可能流的也是民主的水?
如果不考虑人权,可以集中尸体焚化,挖一个大坑一次可以烧几百具尸体。 问题是民选政府是不可能这么干的。 meningitis 发表于 5/1/2020 9:55:00 PM
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meningitis
所以民选政府治理下的社会的做法就是让尸体腐烂到流水,可能流的也是民主的水?

puyou 发表于 5/2/2020 12:02:50 AM

对。咋的,还不一样挡不住你过来。
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rabbitu
纽约真惨。这种帖子居然热度还没有武汉帖子多。都生活在美国的人还都盯着国内,对美国的事情不关心,真让人无语
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tigerpi314
太可怕了……
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tigerpi314
不过标题把殡仪馆门口说成街头显得更吓人了……还以为很多人死在大街上
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cannie
纽约真惨。这种帖子居然热度还没有武汉帖子多。都生活在美国的人还都盯着国内,对美国的事情不关心,真让人无语
rabbitu 发表于 5/2/2020 12:06:46 AM


真是洋装虽然穿在身, 我心依然是中国心
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flying3
纽约真惨。这种帖子居然热度还没有武汉帖子多。都生活在美国的人还都盯着国内,对美国的事情不关心,真让人无语
rabbitu 发表于 5/2/2020 12:06:46 AM


这要是国内新闻保证飘兰加章很快能盖100层以上的高楼,美国的就没人理,真不知到那些ID是不是真的住在美国
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puyou
这儿钱多啊,空气还香甜
对。咋的,还不一样挡不住你过来。 meningitis 发表于 5/2/2020 12:03:00 AM
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meningitis
这儿钱多啊,空气还香甜

puyou 发表于 5/2/2020 1:09:12 AM

那不就说明民主好啊,那你还看不上民主制度啥。要钱有钱,香甜空气都有。你厉害国那么厉害,用钱用空气都留不住你。
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fish_fish
我一直觉得新增没有完全控制,看来部分是在家死亡的
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Namama
美国是土葬为主的国家,突然大量死亡尸体拉去火化是不现实的。
中国是火化为主的国家,有远比美国多得多的焚化炉,即使这样武汉都应付不过来。
你这么简单粗暴地比较纽约跟武汉,你有没有良心。除非动用军队挖坑用火焰喷射器烧,那更加要被骂死。
现在来说,就是纽约的殡仪馆被击穿了。

meningitis 发表于 5/1/2020 9:41:02 PM


有点基本常识好不好?中国焚化炉比美国多,但中国正常死亡人口也比美国多啊!
任何地方的焚化炉都是根据当地人口建设的,而正常情况下,一个地方的死人数量是基本稳定的。。。多建炉子根本没用/纯浪费钱。。。
所以只要非正常死亡的人数一多,甚至都不用增加多少,殡仪馆/火葬场这种地方必然会被击穿!

而且真要说起来,美国这种长期城市人口稳定的地方,火葬场的surplus capacity多半要多过中国这种快速城市化/城市人口快速增长的地区。。火葬场在城市建设中优先度是很低的。。
所以增加一样的非正常死亡人数,多半中国先被击穿。。

都是些基本的常识性东西。。
上次一堆人在武汉火葬场那些贴里上蹿下跳的时候就扫盲过好几次。。
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seator
美国是土葬为主的国家,突然大量死亡尸体拉去火化是不现实的。
中国是火化为主的国家,有远比美国多得多的焚化炉,即使这样武汉都应付不过来。
你这么简单粗暴地比较纽约跟武汉,你有没有良心。除非动用军队挖坑用火焰喷射器烧,那更加要被骂死。
现在来说,就是纽约的殡仪馆被击穿了。

meningitis 发表于 5/1/2020 9:41:02 PM


有点基本常识好不好?中国焚化炉比美国多,但中国正常死亡人口也比美国多啊!
任何地方的焚化炉都是根据当地人口建设的,而正常情况下,一个地方的死人数量是基本稳定的。。。多建炉子根本没用/纯浪费钱。。。
所以只要非正常死亡的人数一多,甚至都不用增加多少,殡仪馆/火葬场这种地方必然会被击穿!

而且真要说起来,美国这种长期城市人口稳定的地方,火葬场的surplus capacity多半要多过中国这种快速城市化/城市人口快速增长的地区。。火葬场在城市建设中优先度是很低的。。
所以增加一样的非正常死亡人数,多半中国先被击穿。。

都是些基本的常识性东西。。
上次一堆人在武汉火葬场那些贴里上蹿下跳的时候就扫盲过好几次。。

Namama 发表于 5/2/2020 2:14:52 AM
美国人多半是土葬的吧
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Namama
美国人多半是土葬的吧
seator 发表于 5/2/2020 2:18:27 AM

是啊。。虽然需要火化比例不同,但只要人口总数稳定,当地需要火化的数量依然是稳定的,当地供给和需求也必然是相匹配的,并不会有太多额外的“产能”。
所以遇到疫情,很容易就被击穿。。

中国虽然火花比例高,但一样不会有大量闲置/富裕的火化“产能”。。
特别是中国城市化速度太快,城市人口增长太快,火葬场的火化能力应该是相对美国这里更加紧张,火葬场在平时的利用率/开工率更高。。所以更容易被击穿
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meningitis


有点基本常识好不好?中国焚化炉比美国多,但中国正常死亡人口也比美国多啊!
任何地方的焚化炉都是根据当地人口建设的,而正常情况下,一个地方的死人数量是基本稳定的。。。多建炉子根本没用/纯浪费钱。。。
所以只要非正常死亡的人数一多,甚至都不用增加多少,殡仪馆/火葬场这种地方必然会被击穿!

而且真要说起来,美国这种长期城市人口稳定的地方,火葬场的surplus capacity多半要多过中国这种快速城市化/城市人口快速增长的地区。。火葬场在城市建设中优先度是很低的。。
所以增加一样的非正常死亡人数,多半中国先被击穿。。

都是些基本的常识性东西。。
上次一堆人在武汉火葬场那些贴里上蹿下跳的时候就扫盲过好几次。。

Namama 发表于 5/2/2020 2:14:52 AM

2018年纽约火化率是40%
武汉火化率是57%
武汉殡仪馆被击穿,纽约就不能被击穿?
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vickyu
中文的新闻现在没法看。看了英文的,基本都在说埋,说明是土葬的。土葬比火化慢得多。这个时候为啥不考虑火化?
弹指芳华 发表于 5/1/2020 12:23:25 PM

国内传染病是强制火化,顶锅盖说一句,这一点规定还是国内比较科学
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meningitis

是啊。。虽然需要火化比例不同,但只要人口总数稳定,当地需要火化的数量依然是稳定的,当地供给和需求也必然是相匹配的,并不会有太多额外的“产能”。
所以遇到疫情,很容易就被击穿。。

中国虽然火花比例高,但一样不会有大量闲置/富裕的火化“产能”。。
特别是中国城市化速度太快,城市人口增长太快,火葬场的火化能力应该是相对美国这里更加紧张,火葬场在平时的利用率/开工率更高。。所以更容易被击穿

Namama 发表于 5/2/2020 2:26:52 AM

你有没有看出你的逻辑错误?你这个论点的前提是武汉纽约死亡率一样的情况下,武汉的火化率才会超过正常火化能力,才会出现先于纽约殡仪系统被击穿的情况。
土鳖官方报道的武汉新冠死亡率3869例,这个新增死亡率怎么能够击穿一个平时应对一千一百万人口的城市的殡仪系统?
纽约可是死了13,168人。
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Namama
2018年纽约火化率是40%
武汉火化率是57%
武汉殡仪馆被击穿,纽约就不能被击穿?

meningitis 发表于 5/2/2020 2:32:34 AM


纽约当然能被击穿,也一定会被击穿。。
我的意思是,任何发生疫情的城市,殡仪馆/火葬场都会撑不住。。

纽约如此,当初的武汉也如此,所以觉得当初那些人在武汉火葬场被击穿的帖子里上窜小跳,简直是莫名其妙/缺乏基本常识。。
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Chiaseed
太惨了!!
琪怪拉
武汉火葬场那时候还没告诉你死了多少人呢。大家都是从医院和火葬场的短视频照片里窥探真实数字。 纽约就直接告诉你过去一个月死了一万人,所以人们惊讶的点不在于有100个还是60个body在殡仪馆里,而是他们被胡乱的推在一起,没有好好摆放,任由腐败,液体滴了一地,影响附近的居民,不像是一个现代文明的社会的做法。
纽约当然能被击穿,也一定会被击穿。。 我的意思是,任何发生疫情的城市,殡仪馆/火葬场都会撑不住。。 纽约如此,当初的武汉也如此,所以觉得当初那些人在武汉火葬场被击穿的帖子里上窜小跳,简直是莫名其妙/缺乏基本常识。。 Namama 发表于 5/2/2020 2:43:00 AM
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lastunas
回复 85楼琪怪拉的帖子 殡仪馆是私营的。只想赚钱。不管有没有能力处理尸体
香酥鱼
这个板上还有美国人在讨论对中国失望不失望,关心一下你自己脚下的土地。
lgnw 发表于 2020-05-01 17:41

+1 真的是洋装虽然穿在身,我心依然是那什么,整天指责观点不同的就是5毛,说得不是自己吗?
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Peacelife
唉,悲惨世界
香酥鱼
Rip. 又是一个国别一换,回帖上万的帖子。
mylittle9 发表于 2020-05-01 23:17

有些人就是那么双标,没办法
香酥鱼
纽约真惨。这种帖子居然热度还没有武汉帖子多。都生活在美国的人还都盯着国内,对美国的事情不关心,真让人无语
rabbitu 发表于 2020-05-02 00:06

华人怪现象,真的
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acer

华人怪现象,真的

香酥鱼 发表于 5/2/2020 9:40:16 AM


除了拿(不管谁的)钱发帖的,说明其他人关心国内比美国多啊
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sindylee
这要是换成中国有些人不得跳起来骂,双标的可以
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onelittletree
这里的中国人应该都瞎了吧
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shuaidou
同意,这个论坛现在双标得可怕了
这要是换成中国有些人不得跳起来骂,双标的可以 sindylee 发表于 5/2/2020 10:03:00 AM
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rinae24
愿逝者早日被火化得以安歇。新闻图片我就瞄了几眼,有些遗体看着像是中年人。。。sigh
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flying3

那不就说明民主好啊,那你还看不上民主制度啥。要钱有钱,香甜空气都有。你厉害国那么厉害,用钱用空气都留不住你。

meningitis 发表于 5/2/2020 1:13:22 AM

那你咋不移民去第一民主大国印度,多有面子啊?别人说得很明白,还在瞎掰
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ysunny
2018年纽约火化率是40%
武汉火化率是57%
武汉殡仪馆被击穿,纽约就不能被击穿?

meningitis 发表于 5/2/2020 2:32:34 AM


纽约当然能被击穿,也一定会被击穿。。
我的意思是,任何发生疫情的城市,殡仪馆/火葬场都会撑不住。。

纽约如此,当初的武汉也如此,所以觉得当初那些人在武汉火葬场被击穿的帖子里上窜小跳,简直是莫名其妙/缺乏基本常识。。

Namama 发表于 2020-05-02 02:43

击穿24小时不停歇的火葬场,还是很有难度的。不是武汉只去世了8000个人吗?至于火葬场加班24小时都不够?
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xgq32
这是犯罪吧