Detroit man begging for life dies after 3 ERs turn him away

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wyz4632
太惨了 最后得多绝望啊
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oqo
太惨了 最后得多绝望啊
wyz4632 发表于 4/22/2020 3:25:58 PM

这和武汉初期一样吧 人到了医院 但是拒收 拒检测
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yulingxi
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Cherrychocolate


这和武汉初期一样吧
人到了医院
但是拒收
拒检测

oqo 发表于 4/22/2020 3:44:09 PM

不一样的是,武汉当时是医院真的满了,连走道都是床位了,还怎么收?两神山和方舱建好后,还有不收治的消息吗?美国不收治,那是CDC定的guideline,没严重到一定程度,不收就是不收,可是,严重到收的地步,有的就救不回来了。
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Cumberbitch
轻症不收让回家,重救不活马上死了 这样床位当然不会紧张了
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diua
就这鸟样子还敢提开工的事,川普和CDC就是草菅人命
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ajanny
跟日本那个送了100多家医院,没一家接收的有一拼。
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lazycat12345
我一直在想一个问题。好区小诊所和downtown大医院,测试标准是否一样。 有没有可能好区小诊所保险都比较好,primary care doctor都能尽量给测,情况不太好的都能给refer去自己network的大医院住院,但是大医院进去都是er,测试和收留标准非常高?
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pig0019
提高入院标准的结果。唉
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pig0019
跟日本那个送了100多家医院,没一家接收的有一拼。
ajanny 发表于 4/22/2020 4:26:10 PM

求链接
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tobeornottobe
为啥不收他,就算不是新冠,人都快不行了还不救吗?
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ajanny
回复 11楼pig0019的帖子 这个是80多家。 我有个在日本的朋友说,有个更老的男子,是被一百多家拒收。
吃瓜群众11
凸显社会主义优越性
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Vlj
不是所有的啊,是有些检测和医院的准入标准有问题
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atomicmass
哈哈 这个可以发到少年报的 ”社会主义好 资本主义遭“ 专栏了
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tk_2020
CDC guideline害人不浅
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atomicmass
CDC 的GUIDELINE 应死尽死, 低端人口被病毒自然消亡了。
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Banff_Jasper
太惨了,永远的党争,无知和低效
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yeeren
回复12楼tobeornottobe 新闻说了,密歇根测试盒不够,现在只有50%在运转。 还有一个原因猜测是他去er的时候不算重症。
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Reddit 讨论在这里:https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/g63nny/detroit_man_with_virus_symptoms_dies_after_3_ers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf。 评论里的:“Detroit is bad. My great grandfather has been in and out of the hospitals for a while. He has been in for a bit with pneumonia and (we believe) contracted COVID-19 while in for that. When he needed to go back to a hospital, he ended up being driven around in an ambulance for hours because not a single hospital would take him in.“ “He was eventually accepted into a Hospice program in a city 30 miles from Downtown and passed away a few days later.” 和楼上日本那个类似。日本新闻报道在这里:https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/wave-infections-threatens-collapse-japan-hospitals-70220083
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回复12楼tobeornottobe
新闻说了,密歇根测试盒不够,现在只有50%在运转。
还有一个原因猜测是他去er的时候不算重症。

yeeren 发表于 4/22/2020 4:46:24 PM

不是重症自己也不会去Er 吧
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不一样的是,武汉当时是医院真的满了,连走道都是床位了,还怎么收?两神山和方舱建好后,还有不收治的消息吗?美国不收治,那是CDC定的guideline,没严重到一定程度,不收就是不收,可是,严重到收的地步,有的就救不回来了。

Cherrychocolate 发表于 4/22/2020 3:57:03 PM

这guideline都是给老百姓的吧。当官的有钱的根本不受限制
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vvdd
一个ER护士在REDDIT这个帖子的留言:大意是有的病人病情从貌似正常到插管恶化只需要几个小时,医护人员现在还不知道如何判断病情的走向,病人会不会恶化,就好像扔骰子一样。他们没法把所有病人留在医院,那些非重症的病人就被打发回家。 看了整个REDDIT的评论,感觉美国人民觉得不符合重症要求被ER送回家没什么不妥,因为现在也没有其他治疗手段。真是良民啊。 I’m sorry this happened. I wish the best for his family as they go through this difficult time. But this disease is really crazy. As an ER nurse, I have seen people with pretty clear lungs and on room air have to be intubated a few hours later. Post intubation X-ray shows a complete “white out” of the lungs. Basically the lungs filled with fluid. Some people we send away. I often wonder what happened since so many are “fine” and sent home and also some are “fine” and intubated in just a few short hours. You can’t hold everyone in the hospital with it and you can’t predict who will need intubation. Other diseases there are tons of markers and signs where you can say “damn, this person is sick and needs to stay”. This disease isn’t so cut and dry. It’s a roll of the dice.
新来的小兔子
CDC这次真的太烂了,烂到家了。快彻查!
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不一样的是,武汉当时是医院真的满了,连走道都是床位了,还怎么收?两神山和方舱建好后,还有不收治的消息吗?美国不收治,那是CDC定的guideline,没严重到一定程度,不收就是不收,可是,严重到收的地步,有的就救不回来了。

Cherrychocolate 发表于 4/22/2020 3:57:03 PM

是的!
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vvdd
Detroit 现在应该是全美病情最糟糕的地方了,医疗挤兑看起来比纽约更猛。New York现在差不多已经熬过去。 美国的良民啊。看看又一个死在家里的经历:“They basically said the hospitals are overwhelmed, and as she's breathing it would be best to care for her at home.” “This is what happened to my aunt a week ago. She was suffering from a gastrointestinal issue for a few weeks, and ambulances were called on three separate instances. They basically said the hospitals are overwhelmed, and as she's breathing it would be best to care for her at home. She passed 9 days ago, and they are now telling us it may have been COVID related. Unfortunately she couldn't get any medical care, and this is where we are now.”
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一个ER护士在REDDIT这个帖子的留言:大意是有的病人病情从貌似正常到插管恶化只需要几个小时,医护人员现在还不知道如何判断病情的走向,病人会不会恶化,就好像扔骰子一样。他们没法把所有病人留在医院,那些非重症的病人就被打发回家。

看了整个REDDIT的评论,感觉美国人民觉得不符合重症要求被ER送回家没什么不妥,因为现在也没有其他治疗手段。真是良民啊。

I’m sorry this happened. I wish the best for his family as they go through this difficult time. But this disease is really crazy. As an ER nurse, I have seen people with pretty clear lungs and on room air have to be intubated a few hours later. Post intubation X-ray shows a complete “white out” of the lungs. Basically the lungs filled with fluid. Some people we send away. I often wonder what happened since so many are “fine” and sent home and also some are “fine” and intubated in just a few short hours. You can’t hold everyone in the hospital with it and you can’t predict who will need intubation. Other diseases there are tons of markers and signs where you can say “damn, this person is sick and needs to stay”. This disease isn’t so cut and dry. It’s a roll of the dice.
vvdd 发表于 4/22/2020 9:08:46 PM

所以需要方舱吧,重症马上可以转进医院。
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vvdd
Detroit看来真的是需要方舱。但是州长太不靠谱了。纽约州的CUOMO别的不说,要东西的本领很厉害,呼吸机,PPE,临时医院,医疗船都努力搞到了,不能不服。
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isabel
不给做CT, X RAY很多时候根本看不出来肺部感染如何
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hofn
Detroit有方舱啊,可是1000个床位的方舱目前只收治17个病人,而且前几个星期刚转为专治新冠的一家医院把病人全部送走,暂时关闭。不明白是什么操作。