叹气, 现在欧洲对中国也是满腹怨言

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vinceblair000
楼主 (北美华人网)
China’s Coronavirus Diplomacy Has Finally Pushed Europe Too Far

April 22, 2020, 5:00 AM GMT+8
With a series of high-level summits culminating in a visit to Germany in the fall by President Xi Jinping, this was supposed to be the year of Europe-China diplomacy. Instead, Europeans are warning of a damaging rift.

Diplomats talk of mounting anger over China’s behavior during the coronavirus pandemic including claims of price gouging by Chinese suppliers of medical equipment and a blindness to how its actions are perceived. The upshot is that Beijing’s handling of the crisis has eroded trust just when it had a chance to demonstrate global leadership.

“Over these months China has lost Europe,” said Reinhard Buetikofer, a German Green party lawmaker who chairs the European Parliament’s delegation for relations with China. He cited concerns from China’s “truth management” in the early stages of the virus to an “extremely aggressive” stance by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Beijing and “hard line propaganda” that champions the superiority of Communist Party rule over democracy.

Rather than any single act responsible for the breakdown, he said, “it’s the pervasiveness of an attitude that does not purvey the will to create partnerships, but the will to tell people what to do.” While the Trump administration has resumed its swipes at China, European officials are traditionally less willing to be openly critical, in part for fear of retribution. The fact that politicians in Berlin, Paris, London and Brussels are expressing concern over Beijing’s narrative on Covid-19 hints at a deeper resentment with wide-ranging consequences. Already some European Union members are pursuing policies to reduce their dependence on China and keep potential predatory investments in check, defensive measures that risk hurting China-EU trade worth almost $750 billion last year. It’s a turnaround from just a few weeks ago, when China emerged from the worst of its own outbreak to offer web seminars on best practice gained from tackling the virus where it first emerged. It also airlifted medical supplies including protective equipment, testing kits and ventilators to the worst-hit countries in Europe and elsewhere, in a show of aid-giving that contrasted with America’s international absence. The pandemic offered a chance for mutual solidarity. But it didn’t last.
“Now the atmosphere in Europe is rather toxic when it comes to China,” said Joerg Wuttke, president of the EU Chamber of Commerce in China. Belt and Road Concerns were aired during a March 25 call of Group of Seven foreign ministers about how China would proceed during the crisis and once it subsided. Ministers were told that Europe and the G-7 must be on guard as Beijing was likely to move “more self confidently, more powerfully” and in a way that exploits its leverage when other nations were still in lockdown, according to a European official familiar with the call. In public, Chinese officials have struck a conciliatory tone. “When people’s lives are at stake, nothing matters more than saving lives. It is useless to argue over the merits of different social systems or models,” Foreign Ministry Spokesman Zhao Lijian said at a regular press conference on April 17. China, he said, is ready to work with the international community, including European countries, to “jointly safeguard the health and safety of all mankind.” Yet China’s means of going about it has backfired in much of Europe. An anonymously authored text posted on the website of the Chinese embassy in France this month falsely accused French retirement home staff of leaving old people to die. It was “an incredible accusation on one of the most sensitive and tragic aspects” of the crisis in France, Mathieu Duchatel of the Institut Montaigne wrote on Twitter. The embassy website comments rang alarm bells for the needless offense caused. China underestimated the reaction to its conspiracy theories amplified by propaganda outlets, according to two European officials in Beijing. What’s more, China’s insistence that aid be accompanied by public thanks and praise has undercut the goodwill it might otherwise have gained, they said. Vulnerable Companies European governments have become more wary of China over the past two years as Xi’s Belt and Road Initiative on trade and infrastructure expanded across the continent, snapping up strategic assets including ports, power utilities and robotics firms from the Mediterranean to the Baltic Sea. While some nations including Italy and Portugal have been enthusiastic backers of Belt and Road, another program known as Made in China 2025, whereby Beijing seeks to become the world leader in key technologies, is seen in many quarters as a further threat to European industry. With stock prices tumbling on the coronavirus crisis, countries including Germany that have investment screening regulations have tightened them and extended their scope in response to concerns that China, among others, could take controlling stakes in companies suddenly made vulnerable. EU Competition Commissioner Margrethe Vestager suggested in a Financial Times interview that governments go further and buy stakes in companies themselves to stave off the threat of Chinese takeovers. More far-reaching still are proposals to curb dependence on China, not just for medical supplies but in areas such as battery technology for electric vehicles. EU Trade Commissioner Phil Hogan said last week there’s a need for a discussion “on what it means to be strategically autonomous,” including building “resilient supply chains, based on diversification, acknowledging the simple fact that we will not be able to manufacture everything locally.” Japan already earmarked $2.2 billion from its $1 trillion stimulus package to help its manufacturers shift production away from China. Without mentioning China, EU trade ministers agreed in an April 16 call on the importance of diversifying to “reduce the reliance on individual countries of supply.” As a first step, Berlin plans state funds and purchase guarantees to start industrial production of millions of surgical and face masks by late summer. China currently exports 25% of the world’s face masks. Wuttke of the EU trade chambers said the discussion on supply chains began when Beijing shut its ports earlier this year, prompting fears that pharmaceutical ingredients produced in China would not reach Europe, and causing policymakers to realize that strategic products had to be secured. According to another European official, even official suppliers were breaking contracts for items such as ventilators and scamming people, burning bridges along the way. “People want to have their eggs in more baskets,” said Wuttke. Burning bridges Certainly, the tenor of the political debate in Europe has shifted since. German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas told Bild newspaper that China’s revising up of the death toll last week was “alarming,” while French President Emmanuel Macron said in an FT interview there were “clearly things that have happened that we don’t know about.” U.K. Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said it can’t be “business as usual” with China once the pandemic is over. As a result of the Covid-19 crisis, pressure is growing on the U.K. to reverse its decision to allow Huawei Technologies a limited role in its fifth-generation mobile networks, while France may be less inclined to give Huawei a chunk of its 5G contracts after the embassy spat. Germany must make a decision by around midyear on Chinese involvement in its 5G networks. In the battle of narratives, Germany is key, according to Janka Oertel, director of the Asia program at the European Council on Foreign Relations in Berlin. As well as Europe’s dominant economy, its trade ties to China dwarf those of its neighbors: German exports to China in 2019 were higher than the U.K., France, Italy, Spain and the Netherlands combined. It will assume the EU’s rotating presidency on July 1, giving it the chance to turn the debate in Europe. China could still win back favor and help secure a greater global role by acceding to demands to open up its markets and introduce a more level playing field for international business, said Oertel. “That would be something that the Europeans would very much appreciate,” she said. All the same, she added: “I don’t think it’s very likely.” — With assistance by Patrick Donahue
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vinceblair000
回复 1楼vinceblair000的帖子 话说照片里装口罩的工人没带手套?
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liangwang2020
哈哈,猪头干的好事! 以后中国就是朝鲜
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meetmylove2015
好长,读的太费劲,求summary
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awesome010
这个肯定啊。
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heighly
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headset
这次的僵局已经很难打破。中国希望早期牺牲经济控制住疫情,间接帮助其他国家赢得时间能够得到肯定。但是显然欧美完全没有认可。矛盾不可调和,只有恶化一条路。
吐槽用户
帮助的体现应该是透明与合作。
星球大战
2020年?不,是1920年
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ORgirl
回复 1楼vinceblair000的帖子 欧洲现在离不开中国的钱 在美国强烈反对之下 意呆利已经都加入一带一路了 多少怨气都得憋着 money talks
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swipernoswiping
怨言归怨言,一个个都是不长记性的,英国用华为就是例子。好日子过太久了,生存的本能都沒有了,就这样吧,全世界就等着学习X思想吧。
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nexcare
英国不是继续用华为吗?可见怨言也是白怨
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molia753
欧洲煽动新闻也很多。普通民众憋在肚子里。以后会排华。
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NOA
帖子里还有好多粉红
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whisperer
间接帮助?? 哪一件事?
这次的僵局已经很难打破。中国希望早期牺牲经济控制住疫情,间接帮助其他国家赢得时间能够得到肯定。但是显然欧美完全没有认可。矛盾不可调和,只有恶化一条路。 headset 发表于 4/22/2020 00:25:00
吐槽用户
回复 1楼vinceblair000的帖子

欧洲现在离不开中国的钱
在美国强烈反对之下
意呆利已经都加入一带一路了
多少怨气都得憋着
money talks
ORgirl 发表于 4/22/2020 12:31:39 AM

一旦中国没有钱了呢?
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mindstorm

一旦中国没有钱了呢?
吐槽用户 发表于 4/22/2020 2:25:08 AM <img src="[url=http://forums.huaren.us/images/common/back.gif"/>]http://forums.huaren.us/images/common/back.gif"/>[/url]


中美现在贸易只占六分之一,能伤筋骨,不能断其利。不承认甚至要打击中国作为三极之一的存在,没用的。
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padthai
看标题我就进来点个赞
吐槽用户


中美现在贸易只占六分之一,能伤筋骨,不能断其利。不承认甚至要打击中国作为三极之一的存在,没用的。
mindstorm 发表于 4/22/2020 2:29:55 AM

没有回答我的问题,一旦中国没了钱呢?
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mindstorm
看标题我就进来点个赞
padthai 发表于 4/22/2020 2:40:26 AM <img src="[url=http://forums.huaren.us/images/common/back.gif"/>]http://forums.huaren.us/images/common/back.gif"/>[/url]


这是跟中国有多大仇恨
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mindstorm

没有回答我的问题,一旦中国没了钱呢?

吐槽用户 发表于 4/22/2020 2:43:12 AM <img src="[url=http://forums.huaren.us/images/common/back.gif"/>]http://forums.huaren.us/images/common/back.gif"/>[/url]


一旦美国没钱了呢?俄罗斯没钱了呢,英国没钱了呢?
正版凤姐
回复 1楼vinceblair000的帖子

欧洲现在离不开中国的钱
在美国强烈反对之下
意呆利已经都加入一带一路了
多少怨气都得憋着
money talks
ORgirl 发表于 4/22/2020 12:31:39 AM

涨了三毛工资真卖力
吐槽用户


一旦美国没钱了呢?俄罗斯没钱了呢,英国没钱了呢?

mindstorm 发表于 4/22/2020 2:49:36 AM

还是没有正面回答。
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Namama
有些人有怨言? 要不要问问被美国到处抢医护装备,他们有没有怨言? 要不要问问欧盟内部被德国/法国拦截医护装备的国家,他们有没有怨言? 看到几个欧洲官员所谓有怨言,就友邦惊诧了,这是要有多豆腐心?这是跪太久了?
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crystal007
有些人有怨言?
要不要问问被美国到处抢医护装备,他们有没有怨言?
要不要问问欧盟内部被德国/法国拦截医护装备的国家,他们有没有怨言?

看到几个欧洲官员所谓有怨言,就友邦惊诧了,这是要有多豆腐心?这是跪太久了?
Namama 发表于 4/22/2020 2:53:43 AM


友邦惊诧这是微信体吧,海华哪里有成天重磅实锤,惊了,震了那种乱七八糟的微信体。难道国内也是跪太久了,好不容易抓一个机会来得瑟一下?
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firmiana


现在队伍真不行。这楼里几个这样裸奔合适吗?舆情慕课你们到底认真学了吗
措辞都带着鲜明的中文媒体色彩,这样怎么能隐蔽在群众中引导舆论?

还真是低级红高级黑
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mindstorm
你正面回答一下美国英国法国没钱怎么办?

对于一个不能够保证自己说的话是真实的人,其实我感觉不需要继续任何形式的交流。
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dudu8972cn


这是跟中国有多大仇恨
mindstorm 发表于 4/22/2020 2:44:56 AM


本质上他们恨的不是中国,恨的是自己爹妈给的自己身上的那层黄皮,尤其是源自东亚大陆上的那层。
这种“人”,不会有未来的,脑袋里自带自毁程序,静观其自生自灭即可。
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bigcatlu


本质上他们恨的不是中国,恨的是自己爹妈给的自己身上的那层黄皮,尤其是源自东亚大陆上的那层。
这种“人”,不会有未来的,脑袋里自带自毁程序,静观其自生自灭即可。

dudu8972cn 发表于 4/22/2020 4:54:27 AM

有不同意见就这么咒人家。何况说的是中国政府那套propaganda.世界都知道那政府就代表一个党。难道中国人得一辈子为那个党背书?华人在外面评论这个党就是恨中国?拿爸妈跟这个党比,真当是党妈了?
通商宽衣001

还是没有正面回答。
吐槽用户 发表于 4/22/2020 2:51:17 AM

它已经正面回答了 -美国没钱可以印,俄国没钱有资源,中国没钱只能十四亿人质吃土
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singsongs
这次的僵局已经很难打破。中国希望早期牺牲经济控制住疫情,间接帮助其他国家赢得时间能够得到肯定。但是显然欧美完全没有认可。矛盾不可调和,只有恶化一条路。
headset 发表于 4/22/2020 12:25:08 AM

中国是犯了很大的错误,但有一说一,1月27号就禁了出发海外的旅行团,私人出境旅客测体温,我觉得还是在尽力不往外扩散的。

西方国家这次损失惨重,跟他们轻敌有很大关系,前几个月都还居然提倡不戴口罩,医护也是,简直了!
牡丹玫瑰
欧洲煽动新闻也很多。普通民众憋在肚子里。以后会排华。
molia753 发表于 4/22/2020 1:15:30 AM
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mmjj123
怨言归怨言,一个个都是不长记性的,英国用华为就是例子。好日子过太久了,生存的本能都沒有了,就这样吧,全世界就等着学习X思想吧。
swipernoswiping 发表于 4/22/2020 12:55:10 AM

不是说drop了吗,就前几天。
毛病不改添恶习
中国的钱都是从美国赚的,美国撤了,其他国家只能被动跟进。官宣从离不开中国制造,到离不开中国撒币,已经撤退了十万八千里。最早的可是欧美国家离不开中国这个人均收入世界中下水平的“大市场”,后来各个国家纷纷醒悟,中国人购买力只体现在极少数几个方面,大部分服务、产品都受到阻断,根本不在相信“大市场”论,官宣就改成“世界最完整工业链”,结果也是被打脸打的找不到北。现在只能说各个国家离不开中国撒币,当初哥上学时你鳖让我们天天批判台湾金元外交,绝不先污染后治理,话都让土鳖说了,雷都给土鳖踩了,我服气
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checkvalve
感谢CCP,让中国的国际形象一落千丈!
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lishu2

涨了三毛工资真卖力
正版凤姐 发表于 4/22/2020 2:50:12 AM

60%呢,一大笔,能不卖力嘛
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lishu2
只有傻子才没怨言,有点脑子的都能想明白
抹茶红豆包

不是说drop了吗,就前几天。

mmjj123 发表于 4/22/2020 11:23:57 AM

没有,官员出来说不会改变的,一定会让华为参与
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direwolf
你正面回答一下美国英国法国没钱怎么办?

对于一个不能够保证自己说的话是真实的人,其实我感觉不需要继续任何形式的交流。
mindstorm 发表于 4/22/2020 3:00:07 AM

吐了,成天撒谎的人指责别人不真实
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swipernoswiping

不是说drop了吗,就前几天。

mmjj123 发表于 4/22/2020 11:23:57 AM

看隔壁的楼,最新的消息还是要用。
离朱
联合国曾经感谢过武汉人民做出的牺牲,一群非要自由非要浪的人民,一批依靠这些人选票的政府,这些政府总不能说,都怪你们非要出去浪吧。不怪中国怪谁呢?
这次的僵局已经很难打破。中国希望早期牺牲经济控制住疫情,间接帮助其他国家赢得时间能够得到肯定。但是显然欧美完全没有认可。矛盾不可调和,只有恶化一条路。 headset 发表于 4/22/2020 12:25:00 AM
离朱
美被告知是1月3号,日本的病毒学家在节目上直接说了中国公布基因序列的速度是惊人的,中国政府最操蛋的就是对国外居然比对自己的国民还要透明。所以少拿透明合作说事,爱满意不满意。
帮助的体现应该是透明与合作。 吐槽用户 发表于 4/22/2020 12:28:00 AM
刘晓庆

它已经正面回答了 -美国没钱可以印,俄国没钱有资源,中国没钱只能十四亿人质吃土

通商宽衣001 发表于 4/22/2020 7:06:44 AM


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呵呵呵 大妈们以为欧洲政客都跟她们一个智商 这世界的根本规则就是利益至上 这些有的没的都只是舆论战的talkpoint而已
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dawaixuan
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欧洲现在离不开中国的钱
在美国强烈反对之下
意呆利已经都加入一带一路了
多少怨气都得憋着
money talks
ORgirl 发表于 4/22/2020 12:31:39 AM


这是很多人典型的暴发户心态。
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woyaoshou
怨气那是肯定有。你不能指望这个时候欧洲人都是圣母。 不过欧洲没有美国联邦政府那些人那么无耻。 都什么时候了,还想着甩锅。80多万的确诊,到现在每天都还有好几万人确诊,白宫的人都是吃屎的嘛?
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dawaixuan
怨气那是肯定有。你不能指望这个时候欧洲人都是圣母。
不过欧洲没有美国联邦政府那些人那么无耻。
都什么时候了,还想着甩锅。80多万的确诊,到现在每天都还有好几万人确诊,白宫的人都是吃屎的嘛?
woyaoshou 发表于 4/22/2020 12:29:57 PM

美国联邦政府不能说做得很好。但是和欧洲很多国家政府(比如,英国,意大利,西班牙)相比,一点也不差。
扶苏
欧洲左倾,全球化不是一天两天了。想要重新洗牌太难了。 美国左倾比欧洲晚,所以幅度小,现在开始转弯,还能转过来。2016以来,慢慢开始改变了。怼CP,怼establishment的人越来越多。连最受欢迎的obama也渐渐失去人心了。
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ORgirl


这是很多人典型的暴发户心态。

dawaixuan 发表于 4/22/2020 12:29:38 PM

暴发户怎么了?
比破落户还是强百倍,对不对?
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dawaixuan

暴发户怎么了?
比破落户还是强百倍,对不对?

ORgirl 发表于 4/22/2020 12:50:35 PM

世上不只有暴发户和破落户。

"暴发户"这个词,给发明出来,肯定有其原因。
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ORgirl

世上不只有暴发户和破落户。

"暴发户"这个词,给发明出来,肯定有其原因。

dawaixuan 发表于 4/22/2020 12:54:21 PM


名词多了去了,跟你身份真正匹配的却不多,对不对?
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formemory
这次的僵局已经很难打破。中国希望早期牺牲经济控制住疫情,间接帮助其他国家赢得时间能够得到肯定。但是显然欧美完全没有认可。矛盾不可调和,只有恶化一条路。
headset 发表于 4/22/2020 12:25:08 AM


“帮助”?提这个词也太不要脸了。怎么帮?用至今都是虚假的数据?用铺天盖地的幸灾乐祸和恶意?幻想自己就要当世界老大的全民高潮?抢占人家新药专利?为了政治正确淡化新药作用,强推啥狗屁中药?用人家的伤疤(911)赤裸裸威胁?断交部拙劣的甩锅挑衅?搜刮全世界人道物资,企图卡人家脖子?收了人家的捐增,转头祝别人“疫帆风顺”,倒卖物资谋求暴利?出口假冒伪劣产品祸害别人?腆着脸到处求表扬求赞美?
桩桩件件,无耻无下限。
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Abbots
联合国曾经感谢过武汉人民做出的牺牲,一群非要自由非要浪的人民,一批依靠这些人选票的政府,这些政府总不能说,都怪你们非要出去浪吧。不怪中国怪谁呢?

离朱 发表于 4/22/2020 12:21:42 PM

联合国感谢的是武汉人民,不是CCP也不是中国政府。中国政府全中国人民都应该感谢武汉人民的牺牲。
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formemory

暴发户怎么了?
比破落户还是强百倍,对不对?

ORgirl 发表于 4/22/2020 12:50:35 PM


暴发的只是姓赵的,p民和wm们永远不在其中
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singingIris
大陆前段时间疯狂嘲笑欧洲受瘟疫感染的国家,尤其是武汉马列教授夫妇到毒到欧洲,意大利免费给治好了,国内还嘲笑庆祝。 少数疯狂没有人性的做法导致大家一起背锅,没有诚恳的道歉和赔偿,欧洲这次不会轻易放过土共。
吐槽用户

吐了,成天撒谎的人指责别人不真实

direwolf 发表于 4/22/2020 12:04:31 PM [/url]


赞雪亮双眼,仗义执言。

偷换概念,胡搅蛮缠,造谣污蔑,歇斯底里,人身攻击,这些勾当在以下身份的人上有充分体现。对号入座吧。

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ssdz
大陆前段时间疯狂嘲笑欧洲受瘟疫感染的国家,尤其是武汉马列教授夫妇到毒到欧洲,意大利免费给治好了,国内还嘲笑庆祝。
少数疯狂没有人性的做法导致大家一起背锅,没有诚恳的道歉和赔偿,欧洲这次不会轻易放过土共。

singingIris 发表于 4/22/2020 1:29:58 PM

他们就是投毒的。他们在罗马那天意大利西班牙还有乌央央的大陆旅游团在遍地投毒。
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nexcare


这是很多人典型的暴发户心态。

dawaixuan 发表于 4/22/2020 12:29:38 PM

暴发户怎么了?
比破落户还是强百倍,对不对?

ORgirl 发表于 2020-04-22 12:50

你还得赖在破落户家不走,这是多跟自己过不去。
哦,忘了,暴发户看不上你,你倒是想回去贴暴发户来着
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dragonfire
你正面回答一下美国英国法国没钱怎么办?

对于一个不能够保证自己说的话是真实的人,其实我感觉不需要继续任何形式的交流。
mindstorm 发表于 2020-04-22 03:00

这有什么难回答的,英美法没钱了可能会闭关可能会巴结有钱的呗。下面你回答一下中国没钱了怎么办?
你第二段话,是暗指中国?英美法现在吵吵的不就是不能相信中国说的话是真实的么?所以你的意思是英美法不应该和中国有任何形式的交流?
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flyingfreewu123
回复 7楼headset的帖子
问题不是在这。你这属于洗地没有洗到点子上。
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fubaobao
中国的钱都是从美国赚的,美国撤了,其他国家只能被动跟进。官宣从离不开中国制造,到离不开中国撒币,已经撤退了十万八千里。最早的可是欧美国家离不开中国这个人均收入世界中下水平的“大市场”,后来各个国家纷纷醒悟,中国人购买力只体现在极少数几个方面,大部分服务、产品都受到阻断,根本不在相信“大市场”论,官宣就改成“世界最完整工业链”,结果也是被打脸打的找不到北。现在只能说各个国家离不开中国撒币,当初哥上学时你鳖让我们天天批判台湾金元外交,绝不先污染后治理,话都让土鳖说了,雷都给土鳖踩了,我服气
毛病不改添恶习 发表于 4/22/2020 11:31:11 AM


层主的id不错
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fubaobao
“帮助”?提这个词也太不要脸了。怎么帮?用至今都是虚假的数据?用铺天盖地的幸灾乐祸和恶意?幻想自己就要当世界老大的全民高潮?抢占人家新药专利?为了政治正确淡化新药作用,强推啥狗屁中药?用人家的伤疤(911)赤裸裸威胁?断交部拙劣的甩锅挑衅?搜刮全世界人道物资,企图卡人家脖子?收了人家的捐增,转头祝别人“疫帆风顺”,倒卖物资谋求暴利?出口假冒伪劣产品祸害别人?腆着脸到处求表扬求赞美?
桩桩件件,无耻无下限。

formemory 发表于 4/22/2020 1:01:43 PM


确实是low到让人无法直视
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flyingfreewu123
回复 61楼fubaobao的帖子
同意,毛病不改,积恶成习
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jcarnes
本来就是个垃圾国家
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tanglianzi
这次的僵局已经很难打破。中国希望早期牺牲经济控制住疫情,间接帮助其他国家赢得时间能够得到肯定。但是显然欧美完全没有认可。矛盾不可调和,只有恶化一条路。
headset 发表于 4/22/2020 12:25:08 AM

别自己意淫了,谎话说多了,自己都不记得什么是事实了。典型精神病痴人说梦的症状
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Cat_Remy


“帮助”?提这个词也太不要脸了。怎么帮?用至今都是虚假的数据?用铺天盖地的幸灾乐祸和恶意?幻想自己就要当世界老大的全民高潮?抢占人家新药专利?为了政治正确淡化新药作用,强推啥狗屁中药?用人家的伤疤(911)赤裸裸威胁?断交部拙劣的甩锅挑衅?搜刮全世界人道物资,企图卡人家脖子?收了人家的捐增,转头祝别人“疫帆风顺”,倒卖物资谋求暴利?出口假冒伪劣产品祸害别人?腆着脸到处求表扬求赞美?
桩桩件件,无耻无下限。

formemory 发表于 4/22/2020 1:01:43 PM


说的真解气!
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niina


赞雪亮双眼,仗义执言。

偷换概念,胡搅蛮缠,造谣污蔑,歇斯底里,人身攻击,这些勾当在以下身份的人上有充分体现。对号入座吧。



吐槽用户 发表于 4/22/2020 1:43:23 PM

现在有些素质差的小留也这样,原来是党纲培训的
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Sunny111
培训无耻无下限,以做假为荣