I'm not sure of your methodology, since we share a common trait as WFH employees, we can try to take this discussion to English in order to rule out... unwanted interference as you eluded to.
Testing as a prerequisite to work. -- The idea behind testing is to prevent spreading via asymptomatic carriers, which is by far the biggest issue with CORVID-19. The efficacy of transmission during this stage is what drives the R0 number way up. So... a reasonable expectation is that before able to return to work, every employee needs to be tested with a rapid response testing kit. (30 min or less). It could be distributed by the state, or provided by the company. This is not a statistical exercise. We can't just say "Well, statistically, we have caught up, everything is fine so we do not need to widespread test prior to go back to work." The plan needs to include not only testing, but also re-testing. I have yet to see any reasonable plan by any state or at the federal level. The attitude taken seems to be "when we open up, we will just assume everyone is good, and if there is an outbreak, we will pray that it doesn't overwhelm the healthcare system." That's poor planning at its finest.
Summary : Not testing is not acceptable. Need a plan for testing. Kits needs to be available at a significantly larger scale, discussion right now needs to be how to ramp these up to scales of, I don't know, 10 Million doses per day. (I chose this number arbitrarily, real number can be a discussion point) .
Now, assuming testing is available and someone tests positive, what is the procedure? Is it home isolation? how many days? Is there contact tracing? what happens to the family that shares the roof, are they under quarantine? These are secondary questions that has been left unanswered (please send me a link if this was answered at a state or federal level, I have yet to see any evidence of a doctrine or policy).
I would get into other areas above, but I don't think it is necessary until the testing requirement and quarantine procedure has been worked out. Again, if you feel these have already been worked out, please include citation and links, and I will try to check them out. I'd discuss more, but my wife is calling me for lunch right now and I have a 1PM meeting afterwards. So I will check back later.
I'm not sure of your methodology, since we share a common trait as WFH employees, we can try to take this discussion to English in order to rule out... unwanted interference as you eluded to.
Testing as a prerequisite to work. -- The idea behind testing is to prevent spreading via asymptomatic carriers, which is by far the biggest issue with CORVID-19. The efficacy of transmission during this stage is what drives the R0 number way up. So... a reasonable expectation is that before able to return to work, every employee needs to be tested with a rapid response testing kit. (30 min or less). It could be distributed by the state, or provided by the company. This is not a statistical exercise. We can't just say "Well, statistically, we have caught up, everything is fine so we do not need to widespread test prior to go back to work." The plan needs to include not only testing, but also re-testing. I have yet to see any reasonable plan by any state or at the federal level. The attitude taken seems to be "when we open up, we will just assume everyone is good, and if there is an outbreak, we will pray that it doesn't overwhelm the healthcare system." That's poor planning at its finest.
Summary : Not testing is not acceptable. Need a plan for testing. Kits needs to be available at a significantly larger scale, discussion right now needs to be how to ramp these up to scales of, I don't know, 10 Million doses per day. (I chose this number arbitrarily, real number can be a discussion point) .
Now, assuming testing is available and someone tests positive, what is the procedure? Is it home isolation? how many days? Is there contact tracing? what happens to the family that shares the roof, are they under quarantine? These are secondary questions that has been left unanswered (please send me a link if this was answered at a state or federal level, I have yet to see any evidence of a doctrine or policy).
I would get into other areas above, but I don't think it is necessary until the testing requirement and quarantine procedure has been worked out. Again, if you feel these have already been worked out, please include citation and links, and I will try to check them out. I'd discuss more, but my wife is calling me for lunch right now and I have a 1PM meeting afterwards. So I will check back later.
好问题，反对复工的恰恰是可以WFH的或者翻墙的非常不理解为什么那么多人竟然完全不站在别人角度理性思考
弄錯方向了。還是在帶風向的討論，沒有實質意義。
這是一個false dichotomy. 選項不是 " 復工" vs "不復工"
選項還有 : 廣大測試，多少人上工前可以先測，測完後多久需要再測。一次可以多少人聚集? 需不需要戴口罩? 測陽性如何隔離? 居家還居外? homeless 如何安置? 公司員工感染誰付醫藥費? 可不可以告公司?
當這些配套措施都有了之後，絕對支持復工。就像韓國，台灣。
現在待在家裡就是在等這些配套。該鬧的是為什麼配套這麼久? 為什麼測試還不到位?
而不是煽動大家去攻擊
说的非常对
我绝不是五毛八毛， 绝对没有参加过法什么功， 绝对是可以安稳可以在家工作的公司员工， 只是想做一个理性思考的人。 很多人就是在目前的情况下愿意复工， 我们这些可以WFH的华人有多少反对复工的？ 其实你说的很多选项已经被选啦， 只是不是你要的答案， 所以你视而不见。 比如： 1. 廣大測試，多少人上工前可以先測，測完後多久需要再測 -----r人均已測人数已经世界领先， 人人都測做不到。 2. 一次可以多少人聚集? 州政府订。 3. 需不需要戴口罩? ---recommended, not mandatory. 4. 公司員工感染誰付醫藥費? 免费， 很多保险公司的copay都 waived. 5. 可不可以告公司? 不可以， Trump 已经说啦联邦政府要waive 公司的liability.
继续shutdown，谁去当essential worker？
别人在外面累死累活，你在家收快递收菜收direct deposit？
政府统一指派，抓你老公每周强制去超市服务一天，你家愿意吗？
I'm not sure of your methodology, since we share a common trait as WFH employees, we can try to take this discussion to English in order to rule out... unwanted interference as you eluded to.
Testing as a prerequisite to work. -- The idea behind testing is to prevent spreading via asymptomatic carriers, which is by far the biggest issue with CORVID-19. The efficacy of transmission during this stage is what drives the R0 number way up. So... a reasonable expectation is that before able to return to work, every employee needs to be tested with a rapid response testing kit. (30 min or less). It could be distributed by the state, or provided by the company. This is not a statistical exercise. We can't just say "Well, statistically, we have caught up, everything is fine so we do not need to widespread test prior to go back to work." The plan needs to include not only testing, but also re-testing. I have yet to see any reasonable plan by any state or at the federal level. The attitude taken seems to be "when we open up, we will just assume everyone is good, and if there is an outbreak, we will pray that it doesn't overwhelm the healthcare system." That's poor planning at its finest.
Summary : Not testing is not acceptable. Need a plan for testing. Kits needs to be available at a significantly larger scale, discussion right now needs to be how to ramp these up to scales of, I don't know, 10 Million doses per day. (I chose this number arbitrarily, real number can be a discussion point) .
Now, assuming testing is available and someone tests positive, what is the procedure? Is it home isolation? how many days? Is there contact tracing? what happens to the family that shares the roof, are they under quarantine? These are secondary questions that has been left unanswered (please send me a link if this was answered at a state or federal level, I have yet to see any evidence of a doctrine or policy).
I would get into other areas above, but I don't think it is necessary until the testing requirement and quarantine procedure has been worked out. Again, if you feel these have already been worked out, please include citation and links, and I will try to check them out. I'd discuss more, but my wife is calling me for lunch right now and I have a 1PM meeting afterwards. So I will check back later.
这个是美国国情决定的。 很大一部分人喜欢拿钱不喜欢配给制。 还有美国一贯是小政府体制， 没有中国那么多社区居委会， 也不能强制派人去送食物。 你看instacart找不到人送食物。 amazon fresh完全没有人愿意送一样
太长， 没有读。 如果你怀疑我去墙里， 或者怀疑我不会英文， 请便。 英文会一些， 说中文更加能够表达自己的思想。
我的理性也是这么告诉我。 不复工， 人家经济出现大问题， 这种人多啦， 那比病毒杀伤力大太多了。 我们这些可以WFH的人可以岁月静好？
你能不能踏踏实实的新加坡待着。关你P事
既然可以wfh那就根本不曾停工，何来复工一说？
2%的死亡率？？一亩三分地上显示5.4%了～～ 当然你还可以继续说很低，但是这5.4%轮到你家你愿意吗？
讨论的是不可以wfh的人有多少人会反对复工？ 很多wfh的人担心政府要求复工以后， 公司就不会同意让俺们天天在家上班了