The city has added more than 3,700 additional people who were presumed to have died of the coronavirus but had never tested positive.
Three thousand more people died in New York City between March 11 and April 13 than would have been expected during the same time period in an ordinary year, Dr. Oxiris Barbot, the commissioner of the city Health Department, said in an interview. While these so-called excess deaths were not explicitly linked to the virus, they might not have happened had the outbreak not occurred, in part because it overwhelmed the normal health care system.
But for weeks, the Health Department also had been recording additional deaths tied to the virus, according to two people briefed on the matter.Those cases involved people who were presumed to have been infected because of their symptoms and medical history.
The city's death toll has soared so high that morgues have filled, funeral homes have been overwhelming and burials of unclaimed remains on Hart Island have surged. As of Monday evening, the city tallied 107,263 cases of the coronavirus, with many more undetected because of lack of testing. People whose death certificates don’t mention the virus still are not counted. From March 11 through April 13, 8,184 city residents died of causes not classified as confirmed or probable coronavirus. Among probable coronavirus deaths, 60 percent happened in hospitals, 22 percent in the victim's home and 18 percent in nursing homes or long-term care facilities. Brooklyn residents represented the most probable deaths, followed by Queens and the Bronx. https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/04/14/new-york-city-coronavirus-death-toll-jumps-by-3-700-after-uncounted-fatalities-are-added-1275931
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the statewide toll at about 15,000.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the statewide toll at about 15,000. vvdd 发表于 4/14/2020 9:26:07 PM
They were not included in the counts given publicly by Mayor Bill de Blasio because no tests had confirmed that the victims had the disease, Covid-19.
Mr. de Blasio decided, after another round of briefings over the weekend, to release the presumptive cases, the people said. Most of the added deaths took place in hospitals, according to the data. Others occurred in nursing homes or other long-term care facilities and in residences. “In the heat of battle, our primary focus has been on saving lives,” said Freddi Goldstein, the mayor’s press secretary. “As soon as the issue was raised, the mayor immediately moved to release the data.” @NYTimes
！不能学学欧洲政府拿钱帮助人民渡过几个月疫情难关再复工吗，前两天说总统决定一切，要赶着复工，复工什么，什么措施都没有，川普抗疫委员会还都是外行，女儿女婿那里，吃人血馒头 牛牛牛牛 发表于 4/15/2020 10:05:39 AM
是你在每个帖子喊美国政府没有拿钱帮人民共度难关吧。那么多帖子都在说$1200你没有看见？还有失业的减薪的一个月拿3000多你看不见？stimulus bill的内容你自己研究一下不行吗？天天喊口号。对了，这个stimulus bill 特意把总统的家族企业排除出去了。哪怕旅馆业本来就是重灾区，本身是符合条件的。
Three thousand more people died in New York City between March 11 and April 13 than would have been expected during the same time period in an ordinary year, Dr. Oxiris Barbot, the commissioner of the city Health Department, said in an interview. While these so-called excess deaths were not explicitly linked to the virus, they might not have happened had the outbreak not occurred, in part because it overwhelmed the normal health care system.
But for weeks, the Health Department also had been recording additional deaths tied to the virus, according to two people briefed on the matter.Those cases involved people who were presumed to have been infected because of their symptoms and medical history.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html
The city's death toll has soared so high that morgues have filled, funeral homes have been overwhelming and burials of unclaimed remains on Hart Island have surged. As of Monday evening, the city tallied 107,263 cases of the coronavirus, with many more undetected because of lack of testing.
People whose death certificates don’t mention the virus still are not counted. From March 11 through April 13, 8,184 city residents died of causes not classified as confirmed or probable coronavirus.
Among probable coronavirus deaths, 60 percent happened in hospitals, 22 percent in the victim's home and 18 percent in nursing homes or long-term care facilities. Brooklyn residents represented the most probable deaths, followed by Queens and the Bronx.
https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/04/14/new-york-city-coronavirus-death-toll-jumps-by-3-700-after-uncounted-fatalities-are-added-1275931
纽约被弄成了人间地狱不说，还把整个东海岸给带进沟里。无法想象，这样的州长和市长，会有那么多左逼在那里各种姿势地舔。
纽约一个城市, 比整个德国都多N倍啊!!!
德国的人口密度多大啊!! 是西方国家里最人稠密的地方了.
然后一些人大声宣称美国医疗实力牛，医疗资源没有被挤兑
有些右逼真是遇到啥都往政治上扯。
要搞党派对抗先把你家右逼总统的地洗干净再来骂左逼州长市长。
- 纽约市在家疑似死亡数量的是官方确诊死亡总数的一半： 7905（确诊死亡）vs 3778 （疑似死亡）。差不多二比一。
- 这个算疑似，没算在正式统计里边。
- 没看今天纽约州的记者通报会，不知道CUOMO回应这个问题没有。
更正引用的ABCNEWS新闻里边确实说到疑似病例主要是养老院来的，我没有细读这篇新闻，引用的原因是因为里边有纽约市的其他数据。那么根据其他报道，在家死亡数目还是没有被官方统计。
- https://gothamist.com/news/surge-number-new-yorkers-dying-home-officials-suspect-undercount-covid-19-related-deaths 。总结一下就是根据统计上个礼拜纽约市里边每天在医院里因为CRONAVIRUS死245个人，在家里疑似的每天死快200个人。
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus-updates-us-navy-battles-growing-outbreak-hospital/story?id=70134122
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the statewide toll at about 15,000.
They were not included in the counts given publicly by Mayor Bill de Blasio because no tests had confirmed that the victims had the disease, Covid-19.
Mr. de Blasio decided, after another round of briefings over the weekend, to release the presumptive cases, the people said. Most of the added deaths took place in hospitals, according to the data. Others occurred in nursing homes or other long-term care facilities and in residences.
“In the heat of battle, our primary focus has been on saving lives,” said Freddi Goldstein, the mayor’s press secretary. “As soon as the issue was raised, the mayor immediately moved to release the data.”
@NYTimes
这特么完全不一个操作好不好？
那边是美女的衣服，能少一点就少一点，没有捉住现行就不算新馆肺炎。
NY的傻缺，明明是有很多心脏病或者中风猝死的，也非得要上杆子报称新官。唯恐天下不乱么？怕那边兴奋的还不够？
还记得当时都觉得纽约好神奇，其他州一月份都开始有病例了，它竟然一个都没有，现在一爆就成了核弹
加拿大也这样。。。我怀疑整个西方世界都这样。。。不知道是个什么心理
淘汰老年人口，减轻社会负担。看来真是不能在美国养老。
知道纽约多少非法移民吗？还有那些单身居住的老人们。
这个本来就无法避免的。在首先遭遇病毒的地方，因为检测手段缺乏和对病毒特性不够了解，更是难以避免
都怪病毒太狡猾，一开始可能没大事，到呼吸困难急转直下都来不及去医院了。
美国估计还好，保险好医疗资源还是不错的。在加拿大呆习惯了，小病都自己扛，感冒症状不会马上去就医。2月份时我嗓子疼的厉害，打给诊所预约要10天之后才可以看，其实我按老经验已经挺了一周，症状有反复感觉是细菌感染才打过去。发烧要个三五天不退医生才给看。不像国内一发烧马上就跑医院了。前年我们没打流感疫苗，全家陆续发烧病了差不多折腾了一个月，最后一个鼻窦炎一个中耳炎医生终于给开了消炎药。要是碰上新肺那可能就直接挂了。
第三世界国家怎么想跟美国人民有啥关系？
天气好了，怕纽约人民心宽出来玩耍。。。模型预测纽约peak前几天其实已经过了
纽约现在test positive的比例比其他地方还是高很多，检测显然不到位。这批新增的死亡人数不是在家的，是本来已经在医院、养老院这些地方，有症状记录但是还没有来得及测就死了。而在家心脏病猝死的，肯定没有新冠症状的医疗记录，神仙也没办法推测是新冠死亡率。
不觉得加上疑似现在有什么特别的意义，除非是为了多报数字拿到更多的资源。纽约这种不加甄别的全部加上和武汉不加甄别的全部不加，对抗疫都没有任何帮助。
等疫情结束后，由卫生学专家再来评估更合理。
类似于CDC每年估算流感死亡数字。
并不都是人民听话，也有很多是医院认为是轻症不收治。看过两个新闻，一个是才30岁的学校老师，去医院看了两三次，被打发回家，过了两天，死在家里。还有个五六十岁的退休警察，也是不收，从医院出来，死在了回家的路上。
我现在还有个朋友的亲戚在NJ，60多岁，有基础病。有症状后，好几天前就去测试了，到现在也没拿到结果。但发烧咳嗽呼吸不畅，家人很怕突然恶化，四处找渠道，希望能住院治疗。
确诊人数下降是因为检测数减少，阳性率在稳步小幅上升。
为啥不去医院啊
肯定的
不是说建的那个javis center里面病人都不是吗？怎么这不收那不收的？
因为他们对政府对医院的制度有强烈的信任。我不评论这种信任在新冠事件上是对还是错，但是他们真的是感觉非常相信政府。不一定相信某个政客，但是对政府整体很自信。
这位是不看美国社交网络吗？
现在想那时候的纽约结界的讨论，感觉恍如隔世
难以想象啊，就这样州长还在作秀说控制住了要放松social distancing，死在回家路上的警察太冤了。
是你在每个帖子喊美国政府没有拿钱帮人民共度难关吧。那么多帖子都在说$1200你没有看见？还有失业的减薪的一个月拿3000多你看不见？stimulus bill的内容你自己研究一下不行吗？天天喊口号。对了，这个stimulus bill 特意把总统的家族企业排除出去了。哪怕旅馆业本来就是重灾区，本身是符合条件的。
我觉得武汉死亡人口我们不用去揣测了。永远不会有真相的。就像过去的一切灾难一样，永远没有机会去知道了。
英国每个死掉的医护都BBC报道了 连一个midwife都报道了 当然这和BBC屁股坐在哪边有关系 但是人家就是报道了
纽约是媒体中心 多少媒体的办公室都可以看到下面的情况 报道的力度怎么样 大家都清楚
纽约的方舱是准备收治重症的。美国的轻症不收的，要求居家隔离。
武汉的方舱是收治隔离轻症的。
两者的目的完全不同。
你仔细说说加拿大怎样？
天 你发这个帖子不止赚八毛把
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/health/nurse-last-words-coronavirus-patient-trnd/index.html
这你也能扯到中国。
各州政策不一样吧，我们州和几大保险公司谈好了，保险公司不会向新冠病人索要copay,deductible,coinsurance。
Twitter上轻症不给测,或者测了医院也不收治，死在家里的tweets一直有很多啊。
大量的人得不到救治死在医院外，医院空着床位，然后宣布医疗没有挤兑的操作看不懂。