Doctors are a famously independent profession, where individual medical judgment on what's best for the patient is prized over administrative dictates. That's reared its head during the Covid-19 outbreak, with many physicians, nurses and other health-care workers taking to social media to express deep concerns about the lack of protective gear or much-needed patient-care equipment like respirators. Some posts have gone viral and are being shared hundreds of thousands of times, often tagged with #GetMePPE. Privacy laws prohibit disclosing specific patient information, but they don't bar discussing general working conditions.The report notes that not all hospitals are blocking staff from talking to the press. "New York's Mount Sinai has been scheduling media interviews for nurses, physicians and trainees to help the public understand the severity of the crisis," reports Bloomberg. "The University of California San Francisco Medical Center has gotten hundreds of such calls and encouraged workers to talk to reporters."
3 Miss. doctors say they were fired after speaking up about COVID-19 safety
A third doctor and nurse say they were fired after speaking up about COVID-19 safety
By Maggie Wade | April 6, 2020 at 11:52 PM CDT - Updated April 7 at 1:39 PM
JACKSON, Miss. (WLBT) - A third doctor and a nurse now say they have been fired after raising concerns about COVID-19 safety measures inside hospitals.
The doctors worked in north Mississippi facilities, two in Oxford.
One of the doctors has hired an attorney, claiming she was fired within hours of trying to keep patients and her staff safe.
Another doctor raised concerns after becoming worried there was not enough Personal Protection Equipment in her hospital.
Dr. Jennifer Bryan, Chair of the Board of Trustees for MSMA, says doctors should be able to speak freely about COVID-19 concerns without fear of retribution. (Source: WLBT)
Dr. Jennifer Bryan, the Chair of the Mississippi State Medical Association Board of Trustees, says while she does not have specifics on the terminations, it is concerning, especially now when healthcare professionals are working to stay safe and keep patients alive.
Dr. Bryan said, “When they can’t speak up freely, you threaten the safety of the public and of the healthcare workers. We need to be able to rely on our physicians as well as our policy makers to make well rounded decisions. And, so, I think it’s important that physicians, whether they are self-employed or employed by someone else, are able to speak up for safety without fear of retribution."
“It’s sad,” she continued. "We need all hands on deck. This is a time for coming together, so any case that we get of a termination, and certainly I don’t know all the details, but it’s worrisome in the middle of a pandemic when we’re calling doctors and nurses out of retirement.”
One of the doctors, identified as Samantha Houston, says she was terminated from Baptist Memorial Hospital-North.
Pond is the Director of Public Relations and Internal Communications for Baptist Memorial Healthcare Corporation. (Source: WLBT)
Ayoka Pond, Director of Public Relations and Internal Communications for Baptist Memorial Health Care Corporation, has since released a statement from the hospital responding to some of Houston’s concerns.
However, Pond said the hospital cannot comment on Dr. Houston’s employment without her permission.
“We are conserving PPE because we have a limited supply, however we do have enough for our team. Pond also states, “we have a robust telemedicine program and we’re strengthening it in light of the COVID-19 crisis. We are a regional leader in testing, diagnosing and treating COVID-19. We have been meeting 7 days a week to protect our staff and our patients and have been a leader in best practices and response around our region.”
Nurse claims he was fired for wearing a protective maskPOSTED 9:40 AM, MARCH 20, 2020, BY NEXSTAR MEDIA GROUP
Getty Images OKLAHOMA CITY, Okla. (KFOR) – Kevin Readel worked at the Oklahoma Heart Hospital South for over five years. That was until Wednesday when he claims he was fired for wearing a droplet isolation mask. “It was to protect myself, to protect the patient and to protect my family,” Readel told KFOR. Readel worked in the Cardiac Care Unit, an ICU area of the heart hospital. Readel said he didn’t wear it all the time, but he was wearing it while putting an IV in a patient on Monday. “I was trying to maintain some level of barrier,” he said when referencing himself and the patient. According to Readel, his supervisor approached him and allegedly told him he needed to take it off, stating that it could cause fear and panic among the patients and staff. “I questioned that,” Readel said. Readel said his supervisor then sent him home. Later, Readel’s supervisor called him and told him to come to the human resources office Wednesday. Readel said he gave them a written statement voicing his concern about being asked to take the mask off. That’s when Readel said he was fired. “I was told that also, by the way, kind of like a caveat to the thing was that your health insurance will be terminated by midnight that same day,” he said. He claims that he did not put the mask back on when he was told to take it off. Mark Hammons is Readel’s attorney, who said his firing comes at a crucial time for health care in the nation and state. “Absolutely the worst thing that any employer can do at this time,” Hammons said. KFOR received this statement from the Oklahoma Heart Hospital South:
“Oklahoma Heart Hospital is unable comment on matters related to the employment of a particular employee. However, we can assure the public that the safety of our patients, visitors and co-workers is our top priority. Oklahoma Heart Hospital is following CDC guidelines on infection prevention and infection control including the proper use of face masks and personal protective equipment.”
Readel responded with Integris Hospital’s adopted policy based on CDC guidelines released Monday. “It’s based on science put forth by the CDC,” he said. The policy allows their employees to wear the masks that Readel was sent home for. “I figured two and two make four in Oklahoma, just like it does in Alabama,” he said. Hammons and Readel are taking legal action, seeking $75,000 in damages. RELATED STORIES Income tax filing deadline moved to July 15 from April 15
A Nurse Bought Protective Supplies for Her Colleagues Using GoFundMe. The Hospital Suspended Her.
She raised more than $12,000 to buy and distribute protective gear for her colleagues, who say they felt inadequately protected against COVID-19. How a confrontation in one of the nation’s Coronavirus hotspots illustrates a troubling national trend. by Marshall Allen
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Olga Matievskaya and her fellow intensive care nurses at Newark Beth Israel Medical Center in New Jersey were so desperate for gowns and masks to protect themselves from the coronavirus that they turned to the online fundraising site GoFundMe to raise money. The donations flowed in — more than $12,000 — and Matievskaya used some of them to buy about 500 masks, 4,000 shoe covers and 150 jumpsuits. She and her colleagues at the hospital celebrated protecting themselves and their patients from the spread of the virus. But rather than thanking the staff, hospital administrators on Saturday suspended Matievskaya for distributing “unauthorized” protective gear. Across the country, front-line medical providers and hospital administrators are butting heads about precautions against the coronavirus pandemic. Clinicians are being told to reuse or go without necessary supplies even when treating patients infected with COVID-19. That goes against the way they’ve been trained. Some doctors and nurses now say they are being instructed not to speak to journalists and disciplined for doing so or taking action to protect themselves. Help Us Report on Coronavirus Are you a public health worker, medical provider, elected official, patient or other COVID-19 expert? Help make sure our journalism is responsible and focused on the right issues. Note: If you develop emergency warning signs for COVID-19, such as difficulty breathing or bluish lips, get medical attention immediately. The CDC has more information on what to do if you are sick. Matievskaya spoke to ProPublica last week about the fundraising campaign. She said she had been able to purchase most of what the nurses needed on eBay. She did not criticize her administrators, and after her suspension she declined to comment. But four other Newark Beth Israel nurses spoke to ProPublica on the condition of anonymity about the dire shortage of gear. All four said their administration has failed to provide the supplies they need to protect themselves and patients. Two of them work in the intensive care unit, which houses the sickest patients. The other two work in other areas of the hospital. They said Matievskaya showed leadership to keep people safe where their hospital administration has not. “There was no information distributed” about not being allowed to purchase supplies for others on staff, one of the nurses told ProPublica. The hospital told ProPublica in a statement that Matievskaya’s suspension ended Monday. “No employee is allowed to distribute unauthorized medical supplies within the hospital,” the statement said. “The nurse in question was temporarily suspended for inappropriately distributing unauthorized medical supplies, against this policy.” The hospital said it ensures clinicians have the supplies they need by following guidance from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for reusing gear. “We are working 24-hours a day, 7-days a week to ensure that the appropriate PPE gets to the right staff, at the right time,” the hospital said in its statement. It did not answer questions about what would become of the supplies purchased through the campaign or whether other nurses who participated in the fundraising might be subject to discipline. A screenshot of a GoFundMe post by nurse Olga Matievskaya, who was suspended by Newark Beth Israel for distributing “unauthorized medical supplies.” (Obtained by ProPublica) The confrontation at Newark Beth Israel may foretell what’s coming in other cities. Northern New Jersey, just outside New York City, is one of the nation’s hotspots, with more than 41,000 confirmed COVID-19 cases as of Monday. As of Thursday, the 665-bed hospital had housed 196 COVID-19 patients, according to an internal communication to hospital staff. Hospitals across the country have shortages of protective equipment, according to a report published Monday by the Office of Inspector General for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Aline Holmes, a clinical associate professor at the Rutgers School of Nursing, said she didn’t know the details of the case but was “very surprised” to hear of Matievskaya’s suspension. Hospital administrators are telling clinicians to reuse supplies, she said, which violates typical infection control standards. Suspending a nurse for obtaining protective equipment “doesn’t make any sense,” Holmes said. “That just seems counterintuitive and really not a good message to send to your staff,” Holmes said. “The staff have a right to protect themselves. If the hospital can’t provide the necessary supplies, they have a right to do what they need to do. They’re caring for the sickest patients in the hospital right now.” The situation is changing by the day as Newark Beth Israel acquires and runs through its supplies. But the four nurses told ProPublica that they have often not been given the N95 respirator masks the CDC has recommended to protect themselves from the virus. One of the ICU nurses said for at least one shift she received a regular surgical mask, which in her opinion is “like putting a paper towel over your face.”
Some nurses outside the intensive care unit have been given a single surgical mask in a brown paper bag that they’re expected to use for an entire week, one nurse said. Nurses at other hospitals around the country have made similar statements. The shortage of gowns has also been a big problem, the nurses said. There should be enough to discard a gown after each interaction with an infected patient. But the shortage of gowns has required staff to leave the same gown hanging by the door of an infected patient’s room and reuse it throughout a shift. In at least one case no gowns were available, one nurse said, so the staffer had to use a combination of a patient gown and bedsheet to treat an infected patient. Some nurses in the intensive care unit have been caring for COVID-19 and non-COVID-19 patients on the same shift, the nurses said. So if they’re not properly protected, the nurses said, they could pick the infection up on their masks or clothing in one room and carry it to the other. The nurses said they have heard of hospital staff testing positive for COVID-19, but they don’t know where they picked it up and the facility’s administration doesn’t make any total numbers known. “We are spreading it, and we are getting it,” one of the nurses said of the coronavirus. The nurses said the situation is especially desperate because the hospital performs organ transplant operations, and those patients have compromised immune systems. A ProPublica report about the quality problems in the heart transplant program last year led to action by regulators. The hospital made the corrections required by the federal and state regulators, it said in a statement. The FBI also investigated the hospital as a result of the story, but the agency declined to comment Monday. The nurses said some of the non-COVID-19 patients are heart and lung transplant recipients. “We understand this is what we signed up for,” one ICU nurse told ProPublica. “Just provide us with sufficient (protective equipment) so we can give these patients the optimal care that they need, and so we aren’t contaminating others or ourselves.” Get Our Top Investigations Subscribe to the Big Story newsletter. Email address This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. In some cases, nurses and administrators have disagreed about what is needed to keep them safe. The intensive care nurses said they have asked for jumpsuits, the overalls that cover their entire outfit. But administrators have told them such equipment isn’t required, they said. The intensive care nurses said they are directed to call a “command center” when they need more supplies. But when they reach out, “You get yelled at sometimes,” one of the nurses said. The hospital did not respond when ProPublica asked for an explanation of the various conditions described by the nurses. But Dr. Matthew Schreiber, the hospital’s chief operating officer, said in a brief phone conversation that the hospital has the personal protective equipment “that the staff require, which is at times not the same as the (protective equipment) that people want to have. There’s lots of items people may bring from somewhere else.” Francis Giantomasi, an attorney who serves as the chairman of the hospital’s board of trustees, said the problem isn’t a lack of money. Newark Beth Israel had $186 million in net assets, according to its 2017 tax forms. It paid its chief executive officer Darrell Terry more than $1.4 million in salary and compensation, the documents show. Gowns and masks and other critical gear “are in short supply everywhere and needed by everyone,” Giantomasi said. “That’s a serious, troubling, undeniable reality.” Read More “It’s Very Unethical”: Audio Shows Hospital Kept Vegetative Patient on Life Support to Boost Survival Rates Darryl Young suffered brain damage during a heart transplant at Newark Beth Israel and never woke up. But, hardly consulting his family, doctors kept him alive for a year to avoid federal scrutiny.
One of the nurses said that if the hospital can afford to pay its CEO so well, then it should be able to go on eBay itself and purchase supplies for the staff. In its statement the hospital blamed the problem on the way supplies are distributed. “No one person, institution, or hospital can independently correct this global supply shortage,” it said. Chris Neuwirth, assistant commissioner of the New Jersey Department of Health, said he feels that New Jersey is as prepared as it could have been. The 9/11 terrorist attacks, Superstorm Sandy and other events gave the emergency infrastructure a head start, he said. Meetings with hospital leaders began in early February. But the scope and magnitude of the coronavirus pandemic is beyond what emergency managers and public health officials could have anticipated, he said. When the crisis subsides, he predicted, there will be a reassessment of the stockpiles and what hospitals and health departments need to do in order to be prepared. Holmes, the Rutgers professor, said hospital administrators need to step up and lead the providers on the front lines by communicating and building trust. If the staff members don’t trust the administration, they might refuse to risk their lives and the health of their families, she said. They might stay home, she said. Medical providers will not forget how administrators treated them when the COVID-19 pandemic is over, said Dr. Zubin Damania, a Stanford-trained physician who is now a popular social media personality known as ZDoggMD. Damania has more than 1.6 million Facebook followers and is pushing for clinicians to reform American health care. He said he is getting more than 250 private messages a week from doctors, nurses and other health care providers, lamenting the lack of protective equipment and unclear communication and intimidation they’re getting from their administrators. In Mississippi, two doctors were reportedly fired for speaking out about coronavirus safety. A similar case was reported in Washington state. “There’s so much distrust, and it’s all borne out of poor coordination of leadership that should know better,” Damania said. Caroline Chen contributed reporting.
你还坚持传谣，看样子你对美国的empolyee 与 contractor的区别一无所知。你到底是否在美国？或许你从未在high paying job 做过事。“his employer, TeamHealth, a national firm that contracts with PeaceHealth’s emergency department”，so the hospital isn’t his employer, it can’t fire a non employee..
His employer, TeamHealth, a national firm that contracts with PeaceHealth’s emergency department”，so the hospital isn’t his employer, it can’t fire a non employee。你对美国真是一窍不通。如果真是像你所说，那个人早去找律师，或者律师自己就会找上去。 不懂就是不懂，不要装懂，人云亦云。
Doctors are a famously independent profession, where individual medical judgment on what's best for the patient is prized over administrative dictates. That's reared its head during the Covid-19 outbreak, with many physicians, nurses and other health-care workers taking to social media to express deep concerns about the lack of protective gear or much-needed patient-care equipment like respirators. Some posts have gone viral and are being shared hundreds of thousands of times, often tagged with #GetMePPE. Privacy laws prohibit disclosing specific patient information, but they don't bar discussing general working conditions.The report notes that not all hospitals are blocking staff from talking to the press. "New York's Mount Sinai has been scheduling media interviews for nurses, physicians and trainees to help the public understand the severity of the crisis," reports Bloomberg. "The University of California San Francisco Medical Center has gotten hundreds of such calls and encouraged workers to talk to reporters."
His employer, TeamHealth, a national firm that contracts with PeaceHealth’s emergency department”，so the hospital isn’t his employer, it can’t fire a non employee。你对美国真是一窍不通。如果真是像你所说，那个人早去找律师，或者律师自己就会找上去。 不懂就是不懂，不要装懂，人云亦云。
noshock 发表于 4/8/2020 5:31:24 PM
又再搅浑水了。抓住一点无关紧要的细节胡搅蛮缠，然后想抹杀整个事件的存在。 工作了17年的Er doctor 因为揭露了医院ppe不足被fire. 新闻里写的清清楚楚。无论他是直接受雇和间接受雇，他的称呼都是doctor.
你反复纠结是不是from another contracts facility，都不能justfy他因为接发ppe不足而被医院开除这件事。无论你怎么搅浑水，er医生因为接发 ppe不足被医院开除都是事实。
Hospital employee and contractors are different! Lots of positions at the hospital are contracted out, such as this doctor in Seattle. Those medical management companies they can fire you as easy as killing a bug.So this Seattle doctor has no case because he was NOT a hospital employee.
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Coronavirus in NJ: Jersey Shore hospital nurse fired as dispute over protective equipment flares
https://www.app.com/story/news/health/2020/04/07/coronavirus-nj-jersey-shore-hospital-nurse-fired-dispute-protective-equipment/2963609001/
Hospitals Tell Doctors They'll Be Fired If They Speak Out About Lack of Gear
ted by BeauHD on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @06:50PM from the thou-shalt-not-speak dept.
schwit1 shares a report from Bloomberg, commenting: "And the claim that this is about protecting 'patient privacy' is b***shit." From the report:Ming Lin, an emergency room physician in Washington state, said he was told Friday he was out of a job because he'd given an interview to a newspaper about a Facebook post detailing what he believed to be inadequate protective equipment and testing. In Chicago, a nurse was fired after emailing colleagues that she wanted to wear a more protective mask while on duty. In New York, the NYU Langone Health system has warned employees they could be terminated if they talk to the media without authorization."
Doctors are a famously independent profession, where individual medical judgment on what's best for the patient is prized over administrative dictates. That's reared its head during the Covid-19 outbreak, with many physicians, nurses and other health-care workers taking to social media to express deep concerns about the lack of protective gear or much-needed patient-care equipment like respirators. Some posts have gone viral and are being shared hundreds of thousands of times, often tagged with #GetMePPE. Privacy laws prohibit disclosing specific patient information, but they don't bar discussing general working conditions.The report notes that not all hospitals are blocking staff from talking to the press. "New York's Mount Sinai has been scheduling media interviews for nurses, physicians and trainees to help the public understand the severity of the crisis," reports Bloomberg. "The University of California San Francisco Medical Center has gotten hundreds of such calls and encouraged workers to talk to reporters."
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嗯嗯，所以这类人才开口不离CCP，任何话题都会带入CCP，是受过太大创伤啊😯
看到一个杀人犯正在杀人，一般人的反应不是冲上去拦着就是躲起来报警，能够一边看杀人一边淡定的表示，被杀和很快被杀的人的亲属可以去告这个杀人犯，这是多么美好的一件事啊，你看隔壁就不行。。。这类人该去查查了，psychopath的可能性还是挺高的。
那个id想说做鬼也幸福，但他要慢慢遣词造句，绞尽脑汁改了又改的回复你。
这个贴的重点是医护遭遇了不公正待遇，你把精力都花在转移矛盾到能不能起诉上。能起诉一切就都perfect了？你这洗地，值1美元。中美两国医护都遭受了不公正待遇这是现实，但你硬能洗成美国的医护受到不公正不是大问题，又不是不能起诉。即使法律起诉不成功，也只不过是法律有缺陷。说的好轻飘飘啊。似乎承认法律有缺陷就比中国高级了？承认法律缺陷，感染死了的医护做鬼也幸福了？就好比一起恶性杀人案，别人都在谴责凶手，你装作正义的说，法律还能判杀人犯有罪呢，杀人没啥大不了，又不是不能告，你们潜责个什么。如果法律有缺陷不能判罪，也没啥，制度优越受害人可以诉求修改法律。受害人应该感到幸福，理解它的运作是吧。哈哈。
转移矛盾到有缺陷的法律，啧啧，这世上存在没有缺陷的东西吗？后果有，那就是你完美的体现了啥叫双标，无耻，你表现的毫无缺陷呢。另外你好多回帖都改了又改，看来你真是绞尽脑汁在洗呢，敬业。
🛋️ 沙发板凳
https://www.wlbt.com/2020/04/07/third-doctor-nurse-say-they-were-fired-after-speaking-up-about-covid-safety/
3 Miss. doctors say they were fired after speaking up about COVID-19 safety
A third doctor and nurse say they were fired after speaking up about COVID-19 safety
By Maggie Wade | April 6, 2020 at 11:52 PM CDT - Updated April 7 at 1:39 PM
JACKSON, Miss. (WLBT) - A third doctor and a nurse now say they have been fired after raising concerns about COVID-19 safety measures inside hospitals.
The doctors worked in north Mississippi facilities, two in Oxford.
One of the doctors has hired an attorney, claiming she was fired within hours of trying to keep patients and her staff safe.
Another doctor raised concerns after becoming worried there was not enough Personal Protection Equipment in her hospital.
Dr. Jennifer Bryan, Chair of the Board of Trustees for MSMA, says doctors should be able to speak freely about COVID-19 concerns without fear of retribution. (Source: WLBT)
Dr. Jennifer Bryan, the Chair of the Mississippi State Medical Association Board of Trustees, says while she does not have specifics on the terminations, it is concerning, especially now when healthcare professionals are working to stay safe and keep patients alive.
Dr. Bryan said, “When they can’t speak up freely, you threaten the safety of the public and of the healthcare workers. We need to be able to rely on our physicians as well as our policy makers to make well rounded decisions. And, so, I think it’s important that physicians, whether they are self-employed or employed by someone else, are able to speak up for safety without fear of retribution."
“It’s sad,” she continued. "We need all hands on deck. This is a time for coming together, so any case that we get of a termination, and certainly I don’t know all the details, but it’s worrisome in the middle of a pandemic when we’re calling doctors and nurses out of retirement.”
One of the doctors, identified as Samantha Houston, says she was terminated from Baptist Memorial Hospital-North.
Pond is the Director of Public Relations and Internal Communications for Baptist Memorial Healthcare Corporation. (Source: WLBT)
Ayoka Pond, Director of Public Relations and Internal Communications for Baptist Memorial Health Care Corporation, has since released a statement from the hospital responding to some of Houston’s concerns.
However, Pond said the hospital cannot comment on Dr. Houston’s employment without her permission.
“We are conserving PPE because we have a limited supply, however we do have enough for our team. Pond also states, “we have a robust telemedicine program and we’re strengthening it in light of the COVID-19 crisis. We are a regional leader in testing, diagnosing and treating COVID-19. We have been meeting 7 days a week to protect our staff and our patients and have been a leader in best practices and response around our region.”
想到虽然有这么多这样的声音，美国明显是PPE不够，但还是有那么多志愿者报名，感动。。。
即使辞了职, 要可能会被吊销执照, 让你生不如死
这些被terminate的都没有被吊销执照啊，美国不至于吧。。。当然据说医生还有一个oath，不知道具体内容是什么
这个已经有医院给BOARD发请求要吊销辞职的医护执照了, 要看BOARD怎末处理,
Nurse claims he was fired for wearing a protective mask
https://fox6now.com/2020/03/20/nurse-claims-he-was-fired-for-wearing-a-protective-mask/
Nurse claims he was fired for wearing a protective maskPOSTED 9:40 AM, MARCH 20, 2020, BY NEXSTAR MEDIA GROUP
OKLAHOMA CITY, Okla. (KFOR) – Kevin Readel worked at the Oklahoma Heart Hospital South for over five years. That was until Wednesday when he claims he was fired for wearing a droplet isolation mask. “It was to protect myself, to protect the patient and to protect my family,” Readel told KFOR. Readel worked in the Cardiac Care Unit, an ICU area of the heart hospital. Readel said he didn’t wear it all the time, but he was wearing it while putting an IV in a patient on Monday. “I was trying to maintain some level of barrier,” he said when referencing himself and the patient. According to Readel, his supervisor approached him and allegedly told him he needed to take it off, stating that it could cause fear and panic among the patients and staff. “I questioned that,” Readel said. Readel said his supervisor then sent him home. Later, Readel’s supervisor called him and told him to come to the human resources office Wednesday. Readel said he gave them a written statement voicing his concern about being asked to take the mask off. That’s when Readel said he was fired. “I was told that also, by the way, kind of like a caveat to the thing was that your health insurance will be terminated by midnight that same day,” he said. He claims that he did not put the mask back on when he was told to take it off. Mark Hammons is Readel’s attorney, who said his firing comes at a crucial time for health care in the nation and state. “Absolutely the worst thing that any employer can do at this time,” Hammons said. KFOR received this statement from the Oklahoma Heart Hospital South:
Readel responded with Integris Hospital’s adopted policy based on CDC guidelines released Monday. “It’s based on science put forth by the CDC,” he said. The policy allows their employees to wear the masks that Readel was sent home for. “I figured two and two make four in Oklahoma, just like it does in Alabama,” he said. Hammons and Readel are taking legal action, seeking $75,000 in damages. RELATED STORIES
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是没开除他，开除了倒好了，后来那一系列操作明显是冲着要他命去的。
我跟你们说我的recruitor 给的价吗：纽约最严重的医院， 17500 per week, 12小时一天，一周7天，干一周休息一周，包吃包喝包住包车，在icu干活，包括插管
所以相当于4周干活168个小时， 拿钱7万，有单身小年轻去的，带自己的ppe, 要是医院不让他们带，拍拍pg就走
但是如果是医院本来的雇工就只有拿原来的薪水，还不许你请假
什么操作要了他的命？诊治新冠？我朋友眼科医生也被暂时调去看发热病人了。
我以为都是不要钱去的
那原来的雇工可以辞了职，来从新找工作吧。你说的这个是很有经验的医生了吧，一般医生都能插管吗？
ICU能搞定插管的，会为了几万刀卖命？光从经济利益出发，留着命不是生产力更长久？
退休的可以挣点块钱
那怎么办？如果都因此罢工，那岂不是更惨？允许辞职我觉得就是这个情况下最好的选择了
都退休了，不需要吧？
律师最近笑开花了。接活接到手抽筋。
美国小年轻欠了一pg债，如果保护好跟中国那样，感染的可能性不大，还有小年轻觉得自己就算感染了也挺的过去
医院不是傻逼，这种情况下不许你辞职的
还有一点你们可能不知道，正常情况下，医生的合同上要求你提前3个月给辞职信
这种不要钱的雷锋可能有，但我觉得现在要钱去的就是雷锋
哪有神马雷锋。之前也以为志愿者是没有报酬的。
这是医生的价格还是护士的价格？
插管的只有医生。 武汉各地的医疗队，都有插管敢死队，都是正压头套，全身防护服，都需要医院体力最好的，技术最好的，好多都是学术带头人，钱对他们真不算啥，本来就有钱。
真TM对自己的员工太不公平了,自己员工还的自己坐地铁上下班，自己吃饭。真是傻逼一样的制度
关键是入院时签没签协议，同意遵守这一条
没有的话以这个理由开除不合法吧
希望多曝光一些 华人之前有nurse在加州医院因为戴口罩被suspend还在华人发文了
当然这样。
不服公司管理，当然走人。
我们插管大部分是nurse practitioner插，医生偶尔插，不仅插管，各种line,tap
都是NP做的多
A Nurse Bought Protective Supplies for Her Colleagues Using GoFundMe. The Hospital Suspended Her.
She raised more than $12,000 to buy and distribute protective gear for her colleagues, who say they felt inadequately protected against COVID-19. How a confrontation in one of the nation’s Coronavirus hotspots illustrates a troubling national trend.
by Marshall Allen
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Olga Matievskaya and her fellow intensive care nurses at Newark Beth Israel Medical Center in New Jersey were so desperate for gowns and masks to protect themselves from the coronavirus that they turned to the online fundraising site GoFundMe to raise money. The donations flowed in — more than $12,000 — and Matievskaya used some of them to buy about 500 masks, 4,000 shoe covers and 150 jumpsuits. She and her colleagues at the hospital celebrated protecting themselves and their patients from the spread of the virus. But rather than thanking the staff, hospital administrators on Saturday suspended Matievskaya for distributing “unauthorized” protective gear. Across the country, front-line medical providers and hospital administrators are butting heads about precautions against the coronavirus pandemic. Clinicians are being told to reuse or go without necessary supplies even when treating patients infected with COVID-19. That goes against the way they’ve been trained. Some doctors and nurses now say they are being instructed not to speak to journalists and disciplined for doing so or taking action to protect themselves.
Help Us Report on Coronavirus Are you a public health worker, medical provider, elected official, patient or other COVID-19 expert? Help make sure our journalism is responsible and focused on the right issues. Note: If you develop emergency warning signs for COVID-19, such as difficulty breathing or bluish lips, get medical attention immediately. The CDC has more information on what to do if you are sick. Matievskaya spoke to ProPublica last week about the fundraising campaign. She said she had been able to purchase most of what the nurses needed on eBay. She did not criticize her administrators, and after her suspension she declined to comment. But four other Newark Beth Israel nurses spoke to ProPublica on the condition of anonymity about the dire shortage of gear. All four said their administration has failed to provide the supplies they need to protect themselves and patients. Two of them work in the intensive care unit, which houses the sickest patients. The other two work in other areas of the hospital. They said Matievskaya showed leadership to keep people safe where their hospital administration has not. “There was no information distributed” about not being allowed to purchase supplies for others on staff, one of the nurses told ProPublica. The hospital told ProPublica in a statement that Matievskaya’s suspension ended Monday. “No employee is allowed to distribute unauthorized medical supplies within the hospital,” the statement said. “The nurse in question was temporarily suspended for inappropriately distributing unauthorized medical supplies, against this policy.” The hospital said it ensures clinicians have the supplies they need by following guidance from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for reusing gear. “We are working 24-hours a day, 7-days a week to ensure that the appropriate PPE gets to the right staff, at the right time,” the hospital said in its statement. It did not answer questions about what would become of the supplies purchased through the campaign or whether other nurses who participated in the fundraising might be subject to discipline.
Some nurses outside the intensive care unit have been given a single surgical mask in a brown paper bag that they’re expected to use for an entire week, one nurse said. Nurses at other hospitals around the country have made similar statements. The shortage of gowns has also been a big problem, the nurses said. There should be enough to discard a gown after each interaction with an infected patient. But the shortage of gowns has required staff to leave the same gown hanging by the door of an infected patient’s room and reuse it throughout a shift. In at least one case no gowns were available, one nurse said, so the staffer had to use a combination of a patient gown and bedsheet to treat an infected patient. Some nurses in the intensive care unit have been caring for COVID-19 and non-COVID-19 patients on the same shift, the nurses said. So if they’re not properly protected, the nurses said, they could pick the infection up on their masks or clothing in one room and carry it to the other. The nurses said they have heard of hospital staff testing positive for COVID-19, but they don’t know where they picked it up and the facility’s administration doesn’t make any total numbers known. “We are spreading it, and we are getting it,” one of the nurses said of the coronavirus. The nurses said the situation is especially desperate because the hospital performs organ transplant operations, and those patients have compromised immune systems. A ProPublica report about the quality problems in the heart transplant program last year led to action by regulators. The hospital made the corrections required by the federal and state regulators, it said in a statement. The FBI also investigated the hospital as a result of the story, but the agency declined to comment Monday. The nurses said some of the non-COVID-19 patients are heart and lung transplant recipients. “We understand this is what we signed up for,” one ICU nurse told ProPublica. “Just provide us with sufficient (protective equipment) so we can give these patients the optimal care that they need, and so we aren’t contaminating others or ourselves.”
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This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. In some cases, nurses and administrators have disagreed about what is needed to keep them safe. The intensive care nurses said they have asked for jumpsuits, the overalls that cover their entire outfit. But administrators have told them such equipment isn’t required, they said. The intensive care nurses said they are directed to call a “command center” when they need more supplies. But when they reach out, “You get yelled at sometimes,” one of the nurses said. The hospital did not respond when ProPublica asked for an explanation of the various conditions described by the nurses. But Dr. Matthew Schreiber, the hospital’s chief operating officer, said in a brief phone conversation that the hospital has the personal protective equipment “that the staff require, which is at times not the same as the (protective equipment) that people want to have. There’s lots of items people may bring from somewhere else.” Francis Giantomasi, an attorney who serves as the chairman of the hospital’s board of trustees, said the problem isn’t a lack of money. Newark Beth Israel had $186 million in net assets, according to its 2017 tax forms. It paid its chief executive officer Darrell Terry more than $1.4 million in salary and compensation, the documents show. Gowns and masks and other critical gear “are in short supply everywhere and needed by everyone,” Giantomasi said. “That’s a serious, troubling, undeniable reality.”
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One of the nurses said that if the hospital can afford to pay its CEO so well, then it should be able to go on eBay itself and purchase supplies for the staff. In its statement the hospital blamed the problem on the way supplies are distributed. “No one person, institution, or hospital can independently correct this global supply shortage,” it said. Chris Neuwirth, assistant commissioner of the New Jersey Department of Health, said he feels that New Jersey is as prepared as it could have been. The 9/11 terrorist attacks, Superstorm Sandy and other events gave the emergency infrastructure a head start, he said. Meetings with hospital leaders began in early February. But the scope and magnitude of the coronavirus pandemic is beyond what emergency managers and public health officials could have anticipated, he said. When the crisis subsides, he predicted, there will be a reassessment of the stockpiles and what hospitals and health departments need to do in order to be prepared. Holmes, the Rutgers professor, said hospital administrators need to step up and lead the providers on the front lines by communicating and building trust. If the staff members don’t trust the administration, they might refuse to risk their lives and the health of their families, she said. They might stay home, she said. Medical providers will not forget how administrators treated them when the COVID-19 pandemic is over, said Dr. Zubin Damania, a Stanford-trained physician who is now a popular social media personality known as ZDoggMD. Damania has more than 1.6 million Facebook followers and is pushing for clinicians to reform American health care. He said he is getting more than 250 private messages a week from doctors, nurses and other health care providers, lamenting the lack of protective equipment and unclear communication and intimidation they’re getting from their administrators. In Mississippi, two doctors were reportedly fired for speaking out about coronavirus safety. A similar case was reported in Washington state. “There’s so much distrust, and it’s all borne out of poor coordination of leadership that should know better,” Damania said.
Caroline Chen contributed reporting.
本地的医护惨了，这么危险钱不多拿，还不许跑
外地医护是可以挑挑捡捡的黄花闺女，本地医护是2娃大妈，医院是猥琐男
强re . 这是死亡率低的主要原因
不懂别乱说
不要传谣。那个是contractor, 不是 employee。 为何这种美国谣言在本版都能经久不衰？
你这就是一厢情愿了。根据我老的经验，这种官司很难打赢。解雇你都是有所本的，因为你违反了医院的规章制度。在美国程序正义非常重要。跟着程序走，你很难找到破绽，打赢官司。这和中国不大一样，中国如果是舆论支持，民愤极大，都有可能让你赢官司。
你这才是谣言。
被开除的是正式医生，被开除前已经在这家医院工作17年了
BELLINGHAM – An emergency room physician who publicly decried what he called a lack of protective measures against the novel coronavirus at his workplace, PeaceHealth St. Joseph Medical Center, has been fired
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/er-doctor-who-criticized-bellingham-hospitals-coronavirus-protections-has-been-fired/%3famp=1
你还坚持传谣，看样子你对美国的empolyee 与 contractor的区别一无所知。你到底是否在美国？或许你从未在high paying job 做过事。“his employer, TeamHealth, a national firm that contracts with PeaceHealth’s emergency department”，so the hospital isn’t his employer, it can’t fire a non employee..
新闻链接都给你了。还胡说八道呢。
不懂英语吗？
Er doctor, 这几个单词不认识？
This depends on the return of the lawyer. The bigger and richer, the better.
His employer, TeamHealth, a national firm that contracts with PeaceHealth’s emergency department”，so the hospital isn’t his employer, it can’t fire a non employee。你对美国真是一窍不通。如果真是像你所说，那个人早去找律师，或者律师自己就会找上去。
不懂就是不懂，不要装懂，人云亦云。
只是开除吗？陈秋实都给抓起来了
麻醉医生插管就是小菜一碟
记得那个帖子，医院说cdc说不用戴口罩，MM坚持戴口罩结果被suspend，脑残cdc直到一周前才改了要戴口罩
又再搅浑水了。抓住一点无关紧要的细节胡搅蛮缠，然后想抹杀整个事件的存在。
工作了17年的Er doctor 因为揭露了医院ppe不足被fire. 新闻里写的清清楚楚。无论他是直接受雇和间接受雇，他的称呼都是doctor.
你反复纠结是不是from another contracts facility，都不能justfy他因为接发ppe不足而被医院开除这件事。无论你怎么搅浑水，er医生因为接发 ppe不足被医院开除都是事实。
有点惊讶。。。
应该大部分都还是志愿者吧？
你坚持谣言什么意思。我这里没有说这医生说的话本身对不对，而是说他被医院开除不是事实。医院只是对他的employer 说， 医院不考虑继续这个合约关系，所以那个headhunter 就告诉这个医生，他们与医生的正式合约也结束了。这种合约关系，本质上就是At Will. 我花了这么多时间给你上课，你还是不明白。说明你在美国对high paying job 一点都不懂。我不浪费时间给你上课了。
最后我告诉你，你不懂到没有关系，但是明明告诉你这个情况，你还要坚持摇言，故意抹黑美国，如果你在大陆，那么美国是没有办法的，不然，你是要负责的。
不可以，请见我上面对别人的答复。不然那个医生赚大钱，律师也会赚大钱，为何他在媒体浪费时间？
就说吗，总觉得这事儿有点猫腻。
李文亮是被公安局警告，相当于被这里的FBI或者警察局警告。医院解约和李文亮根本不是同样的事情
好多health care worker need a job now.
this is a job , but it is a high risk job. 没有管理者关心你的安危，
护士入职也应该有training的吧，自己去翻那些条列看违反了多少条开除都是轻的，吊销从业资格都不过
这么说的话，我不相信。我们公司的头很关心公司人员的安危。医院里PPE少是事实，但大家都一样，也不是就缺他的。
我们做高工资工作人都知道，contractor 与 employee 有很大区别。前者工资高60%以上，但是没有其他待遇，合约双方没有约束，无论那方，随时可以结束。后者基本工资加各种福利，有一定工作保障。
就事论事，那个医生的意见很可能对，但是医院认为不合他们的protocol, 所以结束合约，但是谈不上开除不开除。
Hospital employee and contractors are different! Lots of positions at the hospital are contracted out, such as this doctor in Seattle. Those medical management companies they can fire you as easy as killing a bug.So this Seattle doctor has no case because he was NOT a hospital employee.
你一定悠闲，安全的呆这吧，从你的回复看你好天真 好无邪呀
是啊，所以这里主要集中讨论在终止合同其实不算被炒上面了，非常娱乐😂
高工资？呵呵。搞笑的吧。晒晒税单你一年交几位数的税？
但凡有一点良心的人都不会为开除接发ppe不足医生的无良医院洗地。这叫助纣为虐。
因为没有医生被开除，只是解约。不懂就学习一下，故意不懂就是两回事。我完全支持医生去告那个headhunter.
你不认识fire这个单词那
就是啊，美国自己不产，国家上下已经都在想办法了，还能怎么样。只能是不愿意干，就辞职了。丢工作的，国家也给补助，还要怎么样么。同情理解，但也没别的办法了
确定吗？上面说了还没有这规定。建议board，但没有确定