不容易啊,外宣现在都是这个套路。 加拿大《环球邮报》的报道在下面。洋文的,直接连过来的。 拜托,以后这种出口转内销的二手货就别在这贩卖了,看得人烦。会墙里去自嗨就好。 https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-experts-lend-credence-to-concerns-that-china-played-down-covid-1/ Experts lend credence to concerns that China played down COVID-19 impacts Experts say there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about whether China is concealing the full impact of COVID-19 and that federal Health Minister Patty Hajdu is wrong to dismiss this question as conspiracy theory, particularly since U.S. intelligence is reportedly warning the American government of this. Ms. Hajdu this week accused a journalist of fuelling conspiracy theories after they asked at a daily Ottawa media briefing whether she trusts China’s statistics and how Canada can be assured it has accurate pandemic modelling if Beijing has been lowballing its data. These questions arise because of reports from media outlets in the United States that American intelligence has been warning the White House of inaccurate reporting from Beijing. The New York Times, noting China has reported about six novel coronavirus cases per 100,000 people, well below the rates in Italy, Spain and the United States, published a story this week saying the Central Intelligence Agency is cautioning the U.S. government that China has vastly understated infections. Wesley Wark, a national security policy expert who teaches at the University of Ottawa, said he was surprised by the assertiveness of Ms. Hajdu’s response when she told a journalist asking about this matter Thursday that “your question is feeding into conspiracy theories that many people have been perpetuating on the internet.” Prof. Wark said he believes there has been a failure in Canada of early-warning surveillance on the virus that causes COVID-19. He said this impaired the federal government’s ability to respond effectively this year and still hampers its ability to properly assess open-source information on the impact of COVID-19. This includes data from the World Health Organization, which is based in part on infection reporting from China. Prof. Wark said in his opinion it’s indisputable that China imposed a political clampdown after the coronavirus outbreak began there in late 2019 and this delayed other countries from receiving vital information on the severity of crisis. He said if the U.S. intelligence community is now saying there is continuing suppression of the scale of the damage in China, it should be weighed carefully because the Americans have the only system in the world with a real capacity to independently collect intelligence in that country. ”It behooves everybody, including Canadian authorities at the ministerial level to say, ‘We need to pay attention to that and we don’t dismiss it as a conspiracy theory.‘ ” Asked Friday what evidence she possessed that made her confident in dismissing questions about China’s infection rates, Ms. Hajdu did not directly answer. She said information Canada is receiving from the WHO “is credible evidence and is actually very closely modelling what we’re experiencing in Canada.” Ms. Hajdu said when it comes to comparing how the disease manifests in different countries, Canada “has every confidence in the work that the organization is conducting to provide the best evidence possible.“ Prof. Wark said Canada needs a better pandemic security intelligence capability to verify and supplement the information this country is receiving from the WHO. “We need an ability to double check that information.“ China has rejected allegations it is concealing the scale of the COVID-19 disaster there. Richard Fadden, a former national security adviser who once headed the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, said he’s not sure what China would gain by playing down infection rates. He said it’s likely that China, which is still a developing country in many regions, is facing a challenge that many developing countries do in properly amassing data. Guy Saint-Jacques, a former Canadian ambassador to China who spent 13 years there in different postings, said there is reason to be concerned about China’s COVID-19 infection numbers. He said Beijing has a record of reporting flawed statistics. “You cannot rely on their official figures for economic growth,“ he noted. He said Chinese leadership has been under pressure to “save face“ after public anger about mismanagement of the crisis. “I have seen many instances where they wouldn’t hesitate to lie to make the regime look good, and in this case what is at stake is the survival of the Communist Party of China.” Gordon Houlden, a former Canadian diplomat who served five postings in China and is now director of the University of Alberta’s China Institute, said COVID-19 fatality numbers reported by Beijing appear improbably low. He said, however, that increasing amounts of data the WHO is getting from countries such as Italy, Spain and Britain should help Canada with accurate modelling information. Wenran Jiang, an adjunct professor with the University of British Columbia’s school of public policy and global affairs, said he doesn’t believe China is concealing infection and death rates, and said Beijing has outperformed Washington in how it has handled the virus. “Despite the regime differences, I would think the Chinese are doing a much better job than Trump.”
Health Minister says Canada has no evidence that China is under-reporting virus impact Steven Chase Ottawa Published April 2, 2020 Updated April 2, 2020
Canadian Health Minister Patty Hadju says the federal government has no reason to believe the Chinese government is hiding the full extent of novel coronavirus infections and deaths in that country.
She also accused a journalist who asked her about the matter of fuelling conspiracy theories. Ms. Hajdu was asked about China’s conduct in the wake of a report from Bloomberg News that said U.S. intelligence officals have told the White house Beijing has concealed the full extent of the coronavirus outbreak in China, where the novel coronavirus first appeared. The health minister was asked whether she trusts China’s statistics and how Canada can be assured it has accurate pandemic modelling if Beijing has been low-balling its data. She said Canada has not seen any evidence that China has under-reporting the impact of the virus. “There is no indication that the data that came out of China in terms of their infection rate, and their death rate, was falsified in any way,” she told reporters at an Ottawa briefing Thursday. “In fact it you look at the death rate overall in China it’s much higher than the one we’re seeing now.” The health minister said Canada relies on the World Health Organization to coordinate the flow of data from all countries. Asked whether the WHO data can be considered accurate if China’s data is not, Ms. Hadju then criticized a reporter who had asked questions about the matter. “Your question is feeding into conspiracy theories that many people have been perpetuating on the Internet,” Ms. Hajdu said. “There is no way to beat a global pandemic if we are actually not willing to work together as a globe.” Story continues below advertisement
The coronavirus outbreak began in China in late 2019 but Beijing has reported fewer cases and deaths than in the United States, which now has the world’s largest outbreak, with 214,000 confirmed cases and 4,800 deaths. Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying reiterated during a daily briefing in Beijing on Thursday that China has been open and transparent about the coronavirus epidemic in the country and sharply criticized U.S. officials who cast doubt on China’s disclosures.
原文在此 你们不要搅浑水denial,用其他报道冒充,自己撒谎还又在witch hunting别人是外宣。2月8日瘟疫只在中国爆发时美国总统副总统就说过类似话 这个大标题英文看不懂吗? Health Minister says Canada has no evidence that China is under-reporting virus impact
Health Minister says Canada has no evidence that China is under-reporting virus impact Steven Chase Ottawa Published April 2, 2020 Updated April 2, 2020
Canadian Health Minister Patty Hadju says the federal government has no reason to believe the Chinese government is hiding the full extent of novel coronavirus infections and deaths in that country.
She also accused a journalist who asked her about the matter of fuelling conspiracy theories. Ms. Hajdu was asked about China’s conduct in the wake of a report from Bloomberg News that said U.S. intelligence officals have told the White house Beijing has concealed the full extent of the coronavirus outbreak in China, where the novel coronavirus first appeared. The health minister was asked whether she trusts China’s statistics and how Canada can be assured it has accurate pandemic modelling if Beijing has been low-balling its data. She said Canada has not seen any evidence that China has under-reporting the impact of the virus. “There is no indication that the data that came out of China in terms of their infection rate, and their death rate, was falsified in any way,” she told reporters at an Ottawa briefing Thursday. “In fact it you look at the death rate overall in China it’s much higher than the one we’re seeing now.” The health minister said Canada relies on the World Health Organization to coordinate the flow of data from all countries. Asked whether the WHO data can be considered accurate if China’s data is not, Ms. Hadju then criticized a reporter who had asked questions about the matter. “Your question is feeding into conspiracy theories that many people have been perpetuating on the Internet,” Ms. Hajdu said. “There is no way to beat a global pandemic if we are actually not willing to work together as a globe.” Story continues below advertisement
The coronavirus outbreak began in China in late 2019 but Beijing has reported fewer cases and deaths than in the United States, which now has the world’s largest outbreak, with 214,000 confirmed cases and 4,800 deaths. Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying reiterated during a daily briefing in Beijing on Thursday that China has been open and transparent about the coronavirus epidemic in the country and sharply criticized U.S. officials who cast doubt on China’s disclosures.
原文在此 你们不要搅浑水denial,用其他报道冒充,自己撒谎还又在witch hunting别人是外宣。 这个大标题英文看不懂吗? Health Minister says Canada has no evidence that China is under-reporting virus impact 链接在此,加拿大最大的The Global and Mail 报道 https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-health-minister-says-canada-has-no-evidence-that-china-is-under/ Health Minister says Canada has no evidence that China is under-reporting virus impact Steven Chase Ottawa Published April 2, 2020 Updated April 2, 2020 fitzroy 发表于 4/7/2020 10:08:15 AM
报道称,彭博新闻社的一篇报道说,这位卫生部长被问及她是否相信中国提供的数据,以及如果北京一直瞒报疫情数据,加拿大如何保证它能得到准确的流行病模型。帕蒂说,加拿大没有看到任何证据表明中国瞒报新冠肺炎疫情。报道称,4月2日,她在渥太华的一次吹风会上对记者说:“就感染率和死亡率而言,没有证据表明来自中国的数据有任何造假。”
这位卫生部长说,加拿大依靠世界卫生组织协调来自所有国家的数据流。
当被问到如果中国提供的数据不准确,那么世卫组织的数据是否可被视为准确时,这位部长批评了一名问及此事的记者。
她说:“你的问题会助长许多人一直在互联网上传播的阴谋论。如果我们不愿意联合所有国家通力合作,就没有办法战胜全球性的流行病。”
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2020年2月8日 12:49 美国之音报道特朗普、彭斯赞中国处理冠状病毒“专业”、“透明”
美国总统特朗普星期五对中国对抗新型冠状病毒的努力表示称赞。在此之前,特朗普总统和中国国家主席习近平于星期四晚间通了电话。与此同时,美国副总统彭斯也表示,中国在处理武汉肺炎疫情上,“向美国与国际社会展现了前所未有的透明”。
美国之音报道特朗普、彭斯赞中国处理冠状病毒“专业”、“透明”
美国总统特朗普星期五对中国对抗新型冠状病毒的努力表示称赞。在此之前,特朗普总统和中国国家主席习近平于星期四晚间通了电话。与此同时,美国副总统彭斯也表示,中国在处理武汉肺炎疫情上,“向美国与国际社会展现了前所未有的透明”。
其实所有国家都接到中国疫情报告,看到中国挣扎,但是随后举措失据,应对无章,导致病情难以控制,于是开始甩锅自保官职。
武汉殡仪馆领骨灰盒的微博打脸不?
这就是典型的装盲人,你们就是说武汉一千万人,没有新冠的时候两个月一个都不能少呗。这种可笑的言论才自己打脸。
骨灰盒算出来死了四万多,自然死亡一两万,肺炎死亡俩三万。是不是十倍?!
我看的计算和公布值差不多,不知道你怎么算的。
另外编数字呢,就千万不要写一个定值,否则之后还要改,太麻烦了。
你们那里快下班了吧?晚饭吃什么?
凤凰卫视那个“香港”的河南记者 ,这人值这么多定语
要以后中国真的给赔偿,加拿大拿不到肯定会有人怪这个部长
感染率和死亡率没有作假。
大多数人包括这里的华人,没啥逻辑思维能力。
感染率,case 死亡率更重要。绝对值是没啥分析能力的人看得,专业人士看比例。
数据都不准确,何来得出感染率和死亡率是准确的?!!!
一看原来你这个五毛发的,又是环球,还是赶紧滚蛋吧,呸呸呸
你先死好了。
中国报死亡率3.4%,感染率r0=3. 你这种人,一天到晚只会这么说,怎么还活着?
英文报道
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-health-minister-says-canada-has-no-evidence-that-china-is-under/
超版不问的,我发了个贴来剥外宣的皮,秒移冷宫。
嘿嘿。
既然你给出了文章链接,那大家就都点进去看看文章下面的评论吧,这个health minister被骂惨了
原文再次
Health Minister says Canada has no evidence that China is under-reporting virus impact
Steven Chase
Ottawa
Published April 2, 2020
Updated April 2, 2020
Canadian Health Minister Patty Hadju says the federal government has no reason to believe the Chinese government is hiding the full extent of novel coronavirus infections and deaths in that country.
She also accused a journalist who asked her about the matter of fuelling conspiracy theories.
Ms. Hajdu was asked about China’s conduct in the wake of a report from Bloomberg News that said U.S. intelligence officals have told the White house Beijing has concealed the full extent of the coronavirus outbreak in China, where the novel coronavirus first appeared.
The health minister was asked whether she trusts China’s statistics and how Canada can be assured it has accurate pandemic modelling if Beijing has been low-balling its data.
She said Canada has not seen any evidence that China has under-reporting the impact of the virus.
“There is no indication that the data that came out of China in terms of their infection rate, and their death rate, was falsified in any way,” she told reporters at an Ottawa briefing Thursday.
“In fact it you look at the death rate overall in China it’s much higher than the one we’re seeing now.”
The health minister said Canada relies on the World Health Organization to coordinate the flow of data from all countries.
Asked whether the WHO data can be considered accurate if China’s data is not, Ms. Hadju then criticized a reporter who had asked questions about the matter.
“Your question is feeding into conspiracy theories that many people have been perpetuating on the Internet,” Ms. Hajdu said. “There is no way to beat a global pandemic if we are actually not willing to work together as a globe.”
Story continues below advertisement
The coronavirus outbreak began in China in late 2019 but Beijing has reported fewer cases and deaths than in the United States, which now has the world’s largest outbreak, with 214,000 confirmed cases and 4,800 deaths.
Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying reiterated during a daily briefing in Beijing on Thursday that China has been open and transparent about the coronavirus epidemic in the country and sharply criticized U.S. officials who cast doubt on China’s disclosures.
原文在此
你们不要搅浑水denial,用其他报道冒充,自己撒谎还又在witch hunting别人是外宣。2月8日瘟疫只在中国爆发时美国总统副总统就说过类似话
这个大标题英文看不懂吗? Health Minister says Canada has no evidence that China is under-reporting virus impact
链接在此,加拿大最大的The Global and Mail 报道 https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-health-minister-says-canada-has-no-evidence-that-china-is-under/
Health Minister says Canada has no evidence that China is under-reporting virus impact
Steven Chase
Ottawa
Published April 2, 2020
Updated April 2, 2020
Canadian Health Minister Patty Hadju says the federal government has no reason to believe the Chinese government is hiding the full extent of novel coronavirus infections and deaths in that country.
She also accused a journalist who asked her about the matter of fuelling conspiracy theories.
Ms. Hajdu was asked about China’s conduct in the wake of a report from Bloomberg News that said U.S. intelligence officals have told the White house Beijing has concealed the full extent of the coronavirus outbreak in China, where the novel coronavirus first appeared.
The health minister was asked whether she trusts China’s statistics and how Canada can be assured it has accurate pandemic modelling if Beijing has been low-balling its data.
She said Canada has not seen any evidence that China has under-reporting the impact of the virus.
“There is no indication that the data that came out of China in terms of their infection rate, and their death rate, was falsified in any way,” she told reporters at an Ottawa briefing Thursday.
“In fact it you look at the death rate overall in China it’s much higher than the one we’re seeing now.”
The health minister said Canada relies on the World Health Organization to coordinate the flow of data from all countries.
Asked whether the WHO data can be considered accurate if China’s data is not, Ms. Hadju then criticized a reporter who had asked questions about the matter.
“Your question is feeding into conspiracy theories that many people have been perpetuating on the Internet,” Ms. Hajdu said. “There is no way to beat a global pandemic if we are actually not willing to work together as a globe.”
Story continues below advertisement
The coronavirus outbreak began in China in late 2019 but Beijing has reported fewer cases and deaths than in the United States, which now has the world’s largest outbreak, with 214,000 confirmed cases and 4,800 deaths.
Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying reiterated during a daily briefing in Beijing on Thursday that China has been open and transparent about the coronavirus epidemic in the country and sharply criticized U.S. officials who cast doubt on China’s disclosures.
你的是四月二号。我发的是三号的。这是一。https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-experts-lend-credence-to-concerns-that-china-played-down-covid-1/
再一个,这个部长,已经被揭了皮了。你自己的连接下面,看有多少人在骂。
再加一句,这里有个单子,中国对病毒撒谎,还有卖假货的报道,看这里。
A reading list of Chinese Communist Party's despicable behaviours:
China Concealed Extent of Virus Outbreak, U.S. Intelligence Says https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/china-concealed-extent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says
How China and WHO Orchestrated a Global Genocide https://madrascourier.com/opinion/how-china-the-who-orchestrated-a-global-genocide/#.XoR8IjKakzU.twitter
Coronavirus: Countries reject Chinese-made equipment https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52092395
Chinese Company sent millions of Australia's Coronavirus supplies to China https://nationalfile.com/chinese-company-sent-millions-of-australias-coronavirus-supplies-to-china/
Australia seizes faulty coronavirus protective equipment imported from China https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-01/coronavirus-chinese-ppe-border-force-intercepted/12085908
The Netherlands has recalled 600,000 coronavirus face masks it imported from China after discovering they were defective
https://www.businessinsider.com/coroanvirus-holland-recalls-over-half-a-million-masks-imported-from-china-2020-3
加拿大要是算反应迟钝。那美国卫生算什么?
装死?
一码归一码
这个也是著名五毛ID
这个著名五毛ID很一贯,只有厉害垃圾国家的正面消息。应该增加工资。
那个人说来说去,就是只有WHO数据可以用,她相信WHO数据。我再问你一次,凭你良心说,中国数据是否造假?我的确凭良心认为,中国数字大假;一个理由就是,哪怕去除全部传闻,比较后来所有国家爆发曲线,只有中国的曲线奇特无必,没有一个爆发特征,完全像漂亮的简单数学曲线。
即使今天哪个国家敢说自己的数据是算了无症状的人了?为反中而反吧。