德州测了7万,接近10%阳性率,是不是情况并没有很差?

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stephilosphy
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弹指芳华
德国关键是死亡率保持很低。太牛了。其实别的数字都不必看,死亡数字是关键。
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chartgame
死亡率的确比较低
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meadowcreek
德国关键是死亡率保持很低。太牛了。其实别的数字都不必看,死亡数字是关键。
弹指芳华 发表于 4/5/2020 8:42:10 PM

人家说的是德州。而且德国据说死亡率只算纯因为新冠死亡的,并发症不算,所以低
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fidelity123
这个网址是什么
弹指芳华
哦抱歉看错啦。10%阳性率可以的。加州一直是10%左右。德州应该问题不大的。
政治科代表
人家说的是德州。而且德国据说死亡率只算纯因为新冠死亡的,并发症不算,所以低

meadowcreek 发表于 4/5/2020 8:43:44 PM


德国的ID辟过谣,说算的。
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stephilosphy
这个网址是什么
fidelity123 发表于 4/5/2020 8:46:25 PM


https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83
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patx2449

人家说的是德州。而且德国据说死亡率只算纯因为新冠死亡的,并发症不算,所以低

meadowcreek 发表于 4/5/2020 8:43:44 PM


德国是普筛,加上开始感染的都是上班的年轻人,跟韩国很像。
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shivaleomax
以徳服人啊
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lvk
哦抱歉看错啦。10%阳性率可以的。加州一直是10%左右。德州应该问题不大的。
弹指芳华 发表于 4/5/2020 8:48:06 PM

德州可能有问题。根据模型,5月才开始到高峰,死亡人数也有6千多呢,比New Jersey 的死亡人数 都多。

模型在这里https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections
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zhegufei

人家说的是德州。而且德国据说死亡率只算纯因为新冠死亡的,并发症不算,所以低

meadowcreek 发表于 4/5/2020 8:43:44 PM

As of March 2020, the reported death rate calculated as the number of deaths over the number of infected in Germany was lower than, for example, the Italian one. This has led foreign media to applaud or question it, while virologists, among others the leader of the RKI, warned that the country was simply at an earlier stage of the outbreak and fatalities would soon increase.[94][95][96][92] Different explanations include:
Germany tested more, therefore better approximating the number of people actually infected, as it decreased the uncertainty about the proportion of asymptomatic infected, and the calculated mortality rate was closer to the actual mortality rate.[97] and thus found younger and less sick people more often: their median age was given as 47[96] or 45 years,[92] whereas Italy tested older and sicker people at a median of 63 years.[95] Many early infections happened in skiers returning from Tirol, who tended to be fit people rather than persons at higher risk of complications, and contributed a negligible mortality.[94]
Since Germany has no routine for post-mortem tests, unlike Italy it may not have discovered all deaths.[94][95][96] In Spain, the first death was also discovered by a test carried out post-mortem.[98]
The elderly in Germany often do not live in larger families, which reduces infections.[94]
Germany has many test laboratories and a weekly test capacity of 160 thousand and could have a lower number of unrecorded cases of infections than for example Italy, though the actual number of tests, that is including the negative results was unknown as of 23 March.[94]
Italy has several times fewer hospital beds for intensive respiratory care than Germany. Italy and Spain which had far more cases, ran out of beds earlier than Germany.[94] The number of beds, the protective gear and the size of medical personnel can become bottlenecks for providing adequate care.[92] However, as of end of March, it was "too early to say whether Germany is better medically prepared for the COVID-19 pandemic than other countries".[99]
爱吃木瓜

德州可能有问题。根据模型,5月才开始到高峰,死亡人数也有6千多呢,比New Jersey 的死亡人数 都多。

模型在这里https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

lvk 发表于 4/5/2020 9:53:10 PM [/url]


模型不准呢,其实德州很多COUNTY早就采取措施了,模型上说Not implemented Non-essential services closed, Not implemented Stay at home order, Not implemented Travel severely limited,
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Czboy

德州可能有问题。根据模型,5月才开始到高峰,死亡人数也有6千多呢,比New Jersey 的死亡人数 都多。

模型在这里https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

lvk 发表于 4/5/2020 9:53:10 PM

这个模型胡说八道,4月5日纽约ICU的人数才4千多,这个模型说最少1.2万ICU病人。
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lvk

这个模型胡说八道,4月5日纽约ICU的人数才4千多,这个模型说最少1.2万ICU病人。
Czboy 发表于 4/5/2020 10:18:34 PM


谢谢!我被它吓坏了!不知道谁建的,我真想去打他一顿。
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Stromboli

人家说的是德州。而且德国据说死亡率只算纯因为新冠死亡的,并发症不算,所以低

meadowcreek 发表于 4/5/2020 8:43:44 PM

那是谣言,并发症死亡的在德国也算新冠死亡。
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201120152019
我们这也测了7万5,阳性率5%多不到6%,是不是就不用担心了?
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aoiqa
德州可能有问题。根据模型,5月才开始到高峰,死亡人数也有6千多呢,比New Jersey 的死亡人数 都多。

模型在这里https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

lvk 发表于 4/5/2020 9:53:10 PM


德州总人口多,分母大。
焱焱

德州可能有问题。根据模型,5月才开始到高峰,死亡人数也有6千多呢,比New Jersey 的死亡人数 都多。

模型在这里https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

lvk 发表于 4/5/2020 9:53:10 PM

德州快3千万人口,新州才多少人口啊?
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utk
德州现在在华州后面一位,如果一直追不上华州,我觉得应该就行了。
stephilosphy 发表于 4/5/2020 8:41:00 PM