Hannity这篇文章没有进入很具体的细节。隔壁楼里的事实是纽约州长两次修改禁令,即使在FDA允许之后,他在纽约至今今只允许这个药用于重症。这是一篇给他洗地的文章里承认的,说他没有outright ban.这个药目前大量的证据都说轻症使用极其有效,到重症人就容易给拖死了。他最新规定里的inpatient vs outpatient粗略理解就是前者需要住院基本是重症,后者是去医院看病医生开药回家休息的轻症。Cuomo正好把对防疫最重要的后者给ban了让最需要的人拿不到药。等再过些天他弟弟的CNN可以跟进报道:疫情中心纽约使用这个药的数据证明疗效很低微,都是川普为了股市骗人撒谎夸大疗效!
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/02/facebook-posts/chloroquine-not-banned-michigan-new-york-and-nevad/ The new rules allow health care providers to prescribe the drug for "patients in inpatient settings and acute settings; for residents in a subacute part of a skilled nursing facility; or as part of an study approved by an Institutional Review Board." The change means that, similar to Nevada, doctors in New York can now prescribe chloroquine to COVID-19 patients in hospitals and emergency rooms, but not in outpatient settings.
那篇文章的结论是为了防止stockpiling. 当然人们可以argue这个结论,但是无论怎样说这个举动是故意“投毒”,”用尽办法让疫情恶化”那就是故意歪曲事实了,让病情恶化会对谁有利?不论是Trump, 还是 Cuomo 疫情恶化都对他们不利 “ A Facebook post claims the governors of Michigan, Nevada and New York have ordered banning the use of chloroquine for COVID-19 patients. Nevada and New York have restricted access to the malaria drug in an effort to limit stockpiling. Each state has exemptions for patients hospitalized with the coronavirus. Michigan has taken no additional regulatory action to restrict access to chloroquine; instead, it has asked prescribers to avoid giving the drug to potential stockpilers. ”
Americans shouldn't assume hydroxychloroquine is a "knockout drug" in preventing or treating COVID-19, White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci warned Friday.
"We still need to do the definitive studies to determine whether any intervention, not just this one, is truly safe and effective,"
A New York doctor hopes to help his elderly COVID-19 patients with a treatment plan inspired by the success tentatively being reported with hydroxychloroquine — and which he says shows promising results.
Americans shouldn't assume hydroxychloroquine is a "knockout drug" in preventing or treating COVID-19, White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci warned Friday.
"We still need to do the definitive studies to determine whether any intervention, not just this one, is truly safe and effective,"
A New York doctor hopes to help his elderly COVID-19 patients with a treatment plan inspired by the success tentatively being reported with hydroxychloroquine — and which he says shows promising results.
Americans shouldn't assume hydroxychloroquine is a "knockout drug" in preventing or treating COVID-19, White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci warned Friday.
"We still need to do the definitive studies to determine whether any intervention, not just this one, is truly safe and effective,"
A New York doctor hopes to help his elderly COVID-19 patients with a treatment plan inspired by the success tentatively being reported with hydroxychloroquine — and which he says shows promising results.
88年克林顿根本没参选,跟你顶礼膜拜的州长他爹一样面对老布什知难而退了。你别继续撒谎造谣了。88年DNC克林顿主要发言人,代表了民主党高层最看好的未来候选人是谁。就看你在这篡改历史舔科莫家的脚趾头。 In 1987, the media speculated that Clinton would enter the presidential race after incumbent New York governor Mario Cuomo declined to run and Democratic front-runner Gary Hart withdrew owing to revelations of multiple marital infidelities.[57] Clinton decided to remain as Arkansas governor (following consideration for the potential candidacy of Hillary Rodham Clinton for governor, initially favored—but ultimately vetoed—by the First Lady).[58] For the nomination, Clinton endorsed Massachusetts governor Michael Dukakis. He gave the nationally televised opening night address at the 1988 Democratic National Convention, but his speech, which was 33 minutes long and twice the length it was expected to be, was criticized for being too long[59] and poorly delivered.[60] Clinton presented himself both as a moderate and as a member of the New Democrat wing of the Democratic Party, and he headed the moderate Democratic Leadership Council in 1990 and 1991.
88年克林顿根本没参选,跟你顶礼膜拜的州长他爹一样面对老布什知难而退了。你别继续撒谎造谣了。88年DNC克林顿主要发言人,代表了民主党高层最看好的未来候选人是谁。就看你在这篡改历史舔科莫家的脚趾头。 In 1987, the media speculated that Clinton would enter the presidential race after incumbent New York governor Mario Cuomo declined to run and Democratic front-runner Gary Hart withdrew owing to revelations of multiple marital infidelities.[57] Clinton decided to remain as Arkansas governor (following consideration for the potential candidacy of Hillary Rodham Clinton for governor, initially favored—but ultimately vetoed—by the First Lady).[58] For the nomination, Clinton endorsed Massachusetts governor Michael Dukakis. He gave the nationally televised opening night address at the 1988 Democratic National Convention, but his speech, which was 33 minutes long and twice the length it was expected to be, was criticized for being too long[59] and poorly delivered.[60] Clinton presented himself both as a moderate and as a member of the New Democrat wing of the Democratic Party, and he headed the moderate Democratic Leadership Council in 1990 and 1991.
predator 发表于 4/5/2020 12:19:13 PM
哈哈纠正一下,cuomo是1984年给的convention speech。艳惊四座,成为民主党力推88年和布什一较高下的民主党竞选人。克林顿88年给的convention speech,非常冗长,drove people to sleep.最后的掌声是他说结束语的时候。88年克林顿的确考虑参选实际没有参选。克林顿和cuomo都是民主党人,哪一位都比善于造谣的现总统强一万倍。你不造谣,还说什么92年民主党胜选无望?克林顿92年当选是因为布什的海湾战争经济一团糟。你现学现卖,断章取义和hannity一个德行。
哈哈纠正一下,cuomo是1984年给的convention speech。艳惊四座,成为民主党力推88年和布什一较高下的民主党竞选人。克林顿88年给的convention speech,非常冗长,drove people to sleep.最后的掌声是他说结束语的时候。88年克林顿的确考虑参选实际没有参选。克林顿和cuomo都是民主党人,哪一位都比善于造谣的现总统强一万倍。你不造谣,还说什么92年民主党胜选无望?克林顿92年当选是因为布什的海湾战争经济一团糟。你现学现卖,断章取义和hannity一个德行。
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/02/facebook-posts/chloroquine-not-banned-michigan-new-york-and-nevad/
The new rules allow health care providers to prescribe the drug for "patients in inpatient settings and acute settings; for residents in a subacute part of a skilled nursing facility; or as part of an study approved by an Institutional Review Board." The change means that, similar to Nevada, doctors in New York can now prescribe chloroquine to COVID-19 patients in hospitals and emergency rooms, but not in outpatient settings.
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你们民主党吃人血馒头的丑态确实令人作呕。当初open border也是你们,二月末希拉里跑到中餐馆鼓励消费,三月份纽约市长州长出来呼吁大家坐地铁,逼逼川普独裁的也是你们,逼逼川普不做事的还是你们,阻挡政府救济法案塞环保垃圾的还是你们。就是你们这些人渣接着灾难吃人血馒头
你这地洗得毫无逻辑。已经确诊的轻症病人按照处方买限定的量服用,这跟stockpiling有一分钱关系吗?州长偏要禁止,有什么合逻辑的理由吗?这个疫情急如火的州长还有精力去庆祝提前释放的非法移民杀人犯,他当然有充足的动机let Trump fail
🛋️ 沙发板凳
更可悲的是就这货,读了几天ppt,然后鲜花版上一堆誓死保卫cuomo的红小兵
Americans shouldn't assume hydroxychloroquine is a "knockout drug" in preventing or treating COVID-19, White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci warned Friday.
"We still need to do the definitive studies to determine whether any intervention, not just this one, is truly safe and effective,"
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/03/coronavirus-fauci-warns-americans-shouldnt-assume-hydroxychloroquine-is-a-knockout-drug.html
A New York doctor hopes to help his elderly COVID-19 patients with a treatment plan inspired by the success tentatively being reported with hydroxychloroquine — and which he says shows promising results.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/long-island-doctor-tries-new-hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-patients/
你这洗地太苍白了。你真连建议和规定的区别都不知道?
你贴这东西跟土共一样反驳的文不对题,狗叫一样默认科莫破坏防疫
受不了你胡说八道。michigan和nevada州长是怎么ban了氯喹的?
戴口罩也是。明明是trump在briefing先明确建议要戴口罩,那时候cdc公开说需要证据。之后cdc才改口建议戴的口罩
那是“违法救人”。我这篇贴了source的,还是偏向给州长洗地的source
啥是你的题啊?我明明是支持你啊,不是说了纽约州长不要脸假装做临床试验了吗?Fauci也不要脸,说什么氯喹不一定有用,都不是好东西。要听川总的早就全治好了。对不对??
这是当初骂武汉停公交没有人性让老百姓走路去医院同一拨人吧
你听不懂英语吗? trump的原话是你愿意戴你戴, 反正我是不会戴
我觉得还不止,这么看很可能纽约的毒都是他投放的,这么大规模test就为了在test过程中下毒,住院之后再继续加大剂量下毒
就你这种傻X 川黑莲花和双黄连这种安慰剂吃的不亦乐乎,然后一脸正经地对别人说你们都不要吃药啊,FDA还没批...这逻辑,啧啧
你这完全不合逻辑,他为啥以多乞讨呼吸机为目标啊?我不挺他,但是我觉得这也太阴谋论了吧。这样对他有啥好处
地铁不停其实可以理解,毕竟很多人基本生活需要。牛的是纽约还特意减少班次达到了把大家都挤在一起传病的奇效
看我上面回的,毒都是他投的,反人类就是他的目的
他乞讨呼吸机就可以用一个mission impossible长期怼川普让反川的白左和黄左high起来支持他当总统啊
对啊Dr Fauci确实居心叵测想害死全美国
对啊,因为他下毒也好不给药也好都是精准打击不投他的人,呼吸机也绝对不给他们,最后剩下的都是投他的,一个不差
你这阴谋论我觉得站不住脚,用这么unpredictable的事情的一个可能的scenario来做自己计划的纲领,有点正常智商的人都不会做。除了失心疯要孤注一掷,他有必要吗?
补充一下:同学目前就发烧咳嗽,应该是不算重症。只是他有preexisting condition。
我觉得他背后有强大的团队支持,进行了严密的计算,确保万无一失,一灭一准
有点正常心智的州长会装的跟总统一样组织每天一个脱口秀在那疯狂圈粉吗?其他州长都不这样啊。主流媒体和华人上呼吁这货当总统的大家都看得见
死的人越多,医院里躺的人越多,他在电视上曝光率越高,以后选总统越容易啊。
洗地瞎编的,你把处方亮出来,还有患者是不是重症的记录
就是,你说他怎么想的啊,这货真是自大狂,成天和川总抢版面,要不要脸了
cdc和nih的专家们,包括fauci的确有很大的责任,防疫方面川普门外汉能懂什么,还不是听他们的,现在他们要延迟30天川普给三十天,现在fauci采访也承认他们错估了传染系数,如果知道这么contagious,欧洲就应该早在意大利一爆就断航。
不不不,川总最懂了好吗,氯喹就是他提出来的啊,现在被这些害人精挡着不让推广,不然疫情早结束了!
很有可能,难道纽约这是要搞独立?!!
你们纽约人和他政见不合还为他叫好的是AOC那些誓言摧毁万恶资本主义的革命小将们吗?
大侠我这么支持你不准备点评一下么
Fauci一个艾滋病专家,领导呼吸道传染病防疫,确实有专业不对口的问题。
完全不阴谋论啊,已经给了他充足的benefit of the doubt。
对付这个病毒,要么A、承认可能有特效药,尽快鼓励让医生去试验用药。
结果他在纽约每天死亡人数几百上千的时候,居然还要给医生各种限制。这时候突然怕副作用了,你相信吗?
或者B、承认新冠无药可救,那么就应该对social distance加强再加强,尽快解决纽约公共交通上,病毒传播的问题。
结果他坐视地铁减少班次,看乘客天天挤成一团。
AB两条活路都被他封死了,每天开新闻发布会,闭口不谈药,闭口不谈地铁,不给任何说法。
沉迷于呼吸机无法自拔,那还能有什么解释?呼吸机成精了?
对,这里特别匪夷所思,地铁bus可以不停,保持原来的班次才能减少拥挤,甚至增加班次都是可行的控疫手段,这个减少班次太不可理解了
我也觉得,还有CDC那个光头,都谁选出来的啊
对啊纽约人现在不上班了成天不干别的就挤地铁,每天各线路人山人海盛况空前,都他们害的
美国的宪法给予州里很大的权利
他即便是作秀,给纽约确实拉到了很多资源很多关注。测试比别的州快,方舱也一下子就起来了。纽约的城市规模,爆发规模远大于武汉。因为初期没有扼杀在萌芽中(这个基本上美国各州都没做到,CDC有很大责任,和TRUMP 二月天天说一切可防可控,大号流感有很大关系),三月发现基本就能预见结局好不了的,只能减少损失。
纽约人懂什么,怎么能看出他的险恶居心来,他假惺惺要那些资源有什么用,人都是他害的
那肯定是假医护,楼主贴的才是权威消息
所以就你这样的键盘侠最懂
Hannity二月份在疫情控制最关键时期downplay疫情,现在还好意思出来甩锅
MTA的营运州长干预不了?他那个紧急状态明明有权力。他紧急状态之后到底干吗了?连调动国民自卫队这样最典型的州长权力都不担责任等着川普做。
捂脸,谢谢你看出来我的身份了……
纠正一下,他老爸是民主党当时大热的候选人,纽约州三任州长。天才的演说家,众望所归下人家不愿意出来竞选。原因很简单,他老爸从来不愿意Miss自家的晚饭,business trip都是当日便回。你投不投没关系,自有大票人给他投票
你们纽约这个熊样造成了全国几乎一半的死亡,源源不断向其他州传毒的毒窝,还州长出面威胁破坏其他州的隔离。我们外地的可不愿意被你们拖死,何况嘴上说减少损失还特意使坏禁止轻症病人得到药
你看明白主楼说的inpatient和outpatient什么意思吗?真到了“护”自然就是重症住院了,现在说的就是州长特意坑轻症病人
哈哈哈自己啪啪打脸,H an ni t y这种trump的马子,没有一点基本做人的底线
楼主他还骂我们是键盘侠呢 怎么办
那是借口。88年和92年都是民主党自觉胜选无望的年份
呸,关键时刻最看出人性来,那么多医护人员从全美各地涌入纽约救治。邻居着火,你自己能幸免吗?除了阴谋论,你还会点什么吗?
re。。心太黑了这个废物
呸!马后炮有意思吗?如果他爹参选,就没克林顿啥事了
我不能幸免我也得先看着邻居烧光啊更不能给邻居一分一毫帮助啊
MTA的线路怎么走几班车,市长州长怎么发言?州长说你们全保持原来线路班次,可是Transit 一半员工都拿假期不做了 谁上?
就是,轻症的都是反对他的,所以都要被他害死
我们作为纽约人现在就不要找借口啦,楼主和楼里各位川粉说的才是硬道理!
另外,克林顿92年当选,他是民主党人。你连基本事实都搞不清楚,还嘚吧嘚吧,丢人。你和你家Hannity一个德行,除了造谣污蔑,没其它本事。除了让不明真相的群众恐慌,有其它益处吗?造谣死全家!
请大家千万不要相信那段话代表了纽约华人水准。
MTA里面存在大量的腐败和贪污,一个地铁驾驶员可以通过乱做帐拿几十万的年薪。动不动就罢工,动不动就提价。在state of war的时候,作为essential business还各种理由不正常运营,简直是无耻。
我完全不明白什么叫休假和减线路是势在必行
这么多资源被拿走还有人要拖后腿,这才可怕。几万个外州去的医护都要被白白牺牲?
你这种自私自利的人,千万祈祷自己别遇上倒霉事。
我早就觉得应该让一个呼吸传染病专家出来给大家说话了,艾滋病专家当然觉得戴口罩不重要啦。
哈哈哈克林顿当时乳臭未干,88年已经失败过一次。 cuomo这种民主党大佬,履历丰厚,明星一样的演说家还会未卜先知自觉干不倒bush?克林顿反而觉得自己可以?啥逻辑!
纽约市的人能不能说说最近cuomo把氯喹囤起来,不让医生给轻症病人开氯喹这事,只给重症用,是什么考虑,你们赞同吗?这个药的用处就是能有效treat轻症,减少转为重症的。到重症就没用了。他这样搞是什么意思?纽约市的能就此事辟一下谣吗
纽约可能就是下一个底特律
88年克林顿根本没参选,跟你顶礼膜拜的州长他爹一样面对老布什知难而退了。你别继续撒谎造谣了。88年DNC克林顿主要发言人,代表了民主党高层最看好的未来候选人是谁。就看你在这篡改历史舔科莫家的脚趾头。
In 1987, the media speculated that Clinton would enter the presidential race after incumbent New York governor Mario Cuomo declined to run and Democratic front-runner Gary Hart withdrew owing to revelations of multiple marital infidelities.[57] Clinton decided to remain as Arkansas governor (following consideration for the potential candidacy of Hillary Rodham Clinton for governor, initially favored—but ultimately vetoed—by the First Lady).[58] For the nomination, Clinton endorsed Massachusetts governor Michael Dukakis. He gave the nationally televised opening night address at the 1988 Democratic National Convention, but his speech, which was 33 minutes long and twice the length it was expected to be, was criticized for being too long[59] and poorly delivered.[60] Clinton presented himself both as a moderate and as a member of the New Democrat wing of the Democratic Party, and he headed the moderate Democratic Leadership Council in 1990 and 1991.
那还用说就是他没安好心呗,楼主贴的不是说的清楚明白,楼下也解释了,他就是一心一意要害死纽约人,而且精准打击不投他的纽约人,我们有识纽约人应该坚决打倒他!
这个事确实有点匪夷所思。人命关天的,你能不要这么cynical总是放党争那根弦上嘛。解释一下呗。囤呼吸机我理解。地铁运作我没意见。但是药是直接关系到人命的,氯喹就是给轻症用的,防转重症的,只给重症用是没什么效果的
哈哈纠正一下,cuomo是1984年给的convention speech。艳惊四座,成为民主党力推88年和布什一较高下的民主党竞选人。克林顿88年给的convention speech,非常冗长,drove people to sleep.最后的掌声是他说结束语的时候。88年克林顿的确考虑参选实际没有参选。克林顿和cuomo都是民主党人,哪一位都比善于造谣的现总统强一万倍。你不造谣,还说什么92年民主党胜选无望?克林顿92年当选是因为布什的海湾战争经济一团糟。你现学现卖,断章取义和hannity一个德行。
92年克林顿能赢老布什最主要是出来个历史最牛第三党候选人,就这也是著名的大翻转。你们华左皮真厚