倒数4分零4秒，主持人提问： I know you've said you don't like to look back, but I just have couple of questions about where this originated when did you first have a sense that this was different that what had happened was not just another virus, that this one was going to be something more serious, much more serious?
倒数3分47秒，Fauci开始回答： Well somewhere in the early January, what became clear that what Chinese has claimed originally that this was just a virus that jump from animal to human, and wasn't being transmitted from human to human. Well it became very clear pretty quickly that that was not the case, that this was a virus that was being transmitted from human to human. But not only that, you know, the nightmare that we have is that not only is transmitted human to human, it does it very efficiently. As when the numbers started come in, as to what the morbidity and mortality was, it was during that period in early to mid January that it became clear to me that this was not just another SARS, it wasn't another MERS, middle east respiratory syndrome, this was different!
在这段回答里Fauci 很清楚地说了他在early to mid January就已经知道人传人而且传染效率高, 不仅仅是像 SARS 或者 MERS 那样的.
希望只瞄了上篇文章title的critic不要断章取意 -- 哟看嘛，是Dr. Fauci把这个病毒轻描淡写跟感冒相提并论。当时序列已经出来，已经知道了 这个病毒所属家族，也知道了跟 SARS, MERS在序列上的关系。它们都属于coronavirus. 但是在美国有种更出名的coronavirus, 那就是 common cold, 也就是普通感冒病毒。这篇短文就是讲清楚了这些病毒的关系，强调这不是普通的冠状病毒。他当时也还不清楚发展走向但是知道变化迅速：＂The ultimate scope and effect of this outbreak is unclear at present as the situation is rapidly evolving.＂最后写了（发表于1月23号）"While the trajectory of this outbreak is impossible to predict, effective response requires prompt action from the standpoint of classic public health strategies to the timely development and implementation of effective countermeasures. "
接下来附上隔壁某层主贴的视频采访接下来的script:
倒数2分50秒： Judy Woodruff: I think you're aware of reporting that the Chinese were not transparent about all this in the very beginning.
The question now that's arising, though, is, people are asking, if they had been more transparent in the very beginning, would it have prevented the spread of this virus, period, or would it have simply given more countries like the United States more time to prepare?
倒数2分27秒： Anthony Fauci:
Well, Judy, I don't think anything would have prevented the spread of this virus. Once it emerged into society, with its capability of efficient spread and morbidity and mortality, that was it.
But what could have been different — and this is something that people are going to reflect on, you know, when this is all over, as they try and analyze what actually happened — is that, if we had known that this was highly transmissible early on, when it was just in China, I think other countries would have maybe been more quick on the trigger to try and inhibit travel from China to their country, because, remember, it started in China.
And then China, by the fact that there are so many Chinese people, and travel is part of our daily existence in this planet, that there would maybe have been more attention paid to the possibility that just pure travel from China in general, but certainly from Wuhan and the Hubei district, is something that could start an outbreak throughout the world.
So, that delay in transparency, I think, likely had an impact on what I just said, the awareness that this could seed the rest of the world.
后面这段采访是问如果很早的时候（中国）更透明，可以阻止病毒扩散或者给更多国家（包括美国）更多时间准备吗？Fauci 回答阻止不了。但是，他说，如果我们很早就知道高度传染性，那么在这个病毒还局限在中国时，别的国家会更早地 try and inhibit travel from China. 而且会更加注意这个病毒通过travel from China造成全球爆发的可能性。
倒数4分零4秒，主持人提问：
I know you've said you don't like to look back, but I just have couple of questions about where this originated when did you first have a sense that this was different that what had happened was not just another virus, that this one was going to be something more serious, much more serious?
倒数3分47秒，Fauci开始回答：
Well somewhere in the early January, what became clear that what Chinese has claimed originally that this was just a virus that jump from animal to human, and wasn't being transmitted from human to human. Well it became very clear pretty quickly that that was not the case, that this was a virus that was being transmitted from human to human. But not only that, you know, the nightmare that we have is that not only is transmitted human to human, it does it very efficiently. As when the numbers started come in, as to what the morbidity and mortality was, it was during that period in early to mid January that it became clear to me that this was not just another SARS, it wasn't another MERS, middle east respiratory syndrome, this was different!
在这段回答里Fauci 很清楚地说了他在early to mid January就已经知道人传人而且传染效率高, 不仅仅是像 SARS 或者 MERS 那样的.
感兴趣的同学可以去看看他发表在1月23号的文章(是个viewpoint,不是普通研究文章)，里面提到根据当时15名医护感染的事实，明确了人传人的发生。https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2759815
希望只瞄了上篇文章title的critic不要断章取意 -- 哟看嘛，是Dr. Fauci把这个病毒轻描淡写跟感冒相提并论。当时序列已经出来，已经知道了 这个病毒所属家族，也知道了跟 SARS, MERS在序列上的关系。它们都属于coronavirus. 但是在美国有种更出名的coronavirus, 那就是 common cold, 也就是普通感冒病毒。这篇短文就是讲清楚了这些病毒的关系，强调这不是普通的冠状病毒。他当时也还不清楚发展走向但是知道变化迅速：＂The ultimate scope and effect of this outbreak is unclear at present as the situation is rapidly evolving.＂最后写了（发表于1月23号）"While the trajectory of this outbreak is impossible to predict, effective response requires prompt action from the standpoint of classic public health strategies to the timely development and implementation of effective countermeasures. "
接下来附上隔壁某层主贴的视频采访接下来的script:
倒数2分50秒：
Judy Woodruff:
I think you're aware of reporting that the Chinese were not transparent about all this in the very beginning.
The question now that's arising, though, is, people are asking, if they had been more transparent in the very beginning, would it have prevented the spread of this virus, period, or would it have simply given more countries like the United States more time to prepare?
倒数2分27秒：
Anthony Fauci:
Well, Judy, I don't think anything would have prevented the spread of this virus. Once it emerged into society, with its capability of efficient spread and morbidity and mortality, that was it.
But what could have been different — and this is something that people are going to reflect on, you know, when this is all over, as they try and analyze what actually happened — is that, if we had known that this was highly transmissible early on, when it was just in China, I think other countries would have maybe been more quick on the trigger to try and inhibit travel from China to their country, because, remember, it started in China.
And then China, by the fact that there are so many Chinese people, and travel is part of our daily existence in this planet, that there would maybe have been more attention paid to the possibility that just pure travel from China in general, but certainly from Wuhan and the Hubei district, is something that could start an outbreak throughout the world.
So, that delay in transparency, I think, likely had an impact on what I just said, the awareness that this could seed the rest of the world.
后面这段采访是问如果很早的时候（中国）更透明，可以阻止病毒扩散或者给更多国家（包括美国）更多时间准备吗？Fauci 回答阻止不了。但是，他说，如果我们很早就知道高度传染性，那么在这个病毒还局限在中国时，别的国家会更早地 try and inhibit travel from China. 而且会更加注意这个病毒通过travel from China造成全球爆发的可能性。
从这两个跟中国相关的回答来看，Fauci的描述非常中立客观。他强调的是如果很早期, 就是还仅局限于中国国内的时候，就知道highly transmissible。。。现在回顾，泰国第一例确诊是1月13号，日本第一例是1月15号。。他说的很早期应该是早于这些日子。
最后有点问责意思的就是主持人接着说的：All that points right back to Chinese officials, doesn't it?
Fauci 附和回答：Looks that way.
不过我倒没有对任何一方恨的牙痒痒。武汉人民付出了惨重的代价，美国也付出了很沉重的代价，很多事情没有如果。。。内因才是主因，如果不反省自己，这种事情还会再来。人不可能一辈子靠追别人的责任活着，一个国家也是这样。
板上有些人真是恶心死了。既然来了美国，好好关心美国，多做一些对美国自己有利的事情可以吗？死活盯着国内，只要有一点苗头就恨不得挑起两国的战争，恨不得美国把中共撕了，请问这样对美国人民有什么好处？你去替美国人打仗吗？这样对中国人民又有什么好处？美国确实比中国强，但是中国想和美国硬拼，美国自己也讨不到好处啊。何况这个世界又不是只有中美两个国家？鹬蚌相争，渔翁得利。
现在发现国内人这么说话的不少，这种口气。。。
中国通知世界卫生组织的具体内容是什么？希望把中方通知的原文一字不差的公布。
中国通知美国的具体内容是什么？希望把中方通知的原文一字不差的公布。
未必是自干五，也有国家队五毛