捐口罩的时候注意了 KN95不符合规定

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Presentgift
楼主 (北美华人网)
不要好心做了坏事 耽误医疗机构时间

新州圣名医院收到一批未经认证的口罩,现已退货。


随着新冠病毒疫情爆发,纽新地区医院的防护设备紧缺,纷纷加大采购力度。然而新州多家医院近日曝出采购到未经认证的假口罩,有些甚至拼错了检验的机构的名称缩写。新州参议会正在商讨一项法案,拟增加对于出售山寨医护用具的惩罚力度。
新州北部的圣名医院(Holy Name Medical Center)一度是全州接受新冠病毒感染者最多的医院,日前采购1000个口罩,但却发现这批口罩未经美国职业安全暨健康研究所(National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health,NIOSH)认证。
医院首席医疗官Adam Jarrett表示,由于物资紧缺,医院无法依赖以往长期供货的厂家,但他们新收到的KN95口罩无法确保医护人员的安全。NIOSH发言人Arleen Porcell表示,该机构不会对任何KN95口罩进行认证,而是只认证防护效果更好的N95口罩。
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Beau
加拿大都开始接收KN95了,美国真够矫情的。 加拿大鹅都开始生产防护服了。
甜米酒
真够侨情的。那他们觉得普通口罩比kn95强?
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oceanmist
新闻说NY的医院都收自己缝制的,这比自己的缝的强多了。 新州不要,估计要的医院挺多的。
花花朵朵
CDC自己说有些认证过的KN95是可以的,没有认证的当然不行。 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/respirators-strategy/crisis-alternate-strategies.html
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minijing
说明还是不缺
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catgoose
我给我父母国内买的也是KN95,质量不错。我自己都没舍得让他们寄过来。
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chengcheng
别这么矫情了,好多医院连自己家缝的普通布料口罩都收呢。
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Acad
总比没有裸奔好吧
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EdwardVIII
cdc早发通知说可以用了
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/respirators-strategy/crisis-alternate-strategies.html



vivilxw 发表于 3/27/2020 1:22:31 AM

但是這個醫院發現他們訂的KN95不行。https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/coronavirus/2020/03/26/nj-coronavirus-health-care-facilities-worry-equipment-scams/5078215002/

That was the case when Holy Name Medical Center recently purchased 1,000 protective masks but opened the box and discovered they did not fit properly because of the way they were made. The masks were returned to the vendor, said Adam Jarrett, the hospital's chief medical officer.

He said the hospital was "not using the regular vendor" that it typically relies on for supplies and that it received a shipment of KN95 masks, "which is what we were expecting to receive." KN95 masks are similar to N95 but are made in China instead of the U.S.

A spokeswoman said the hospital "could not confirm" that the masks had been certified by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, known as NIOSH.

A NIOSH spokeswoman, Arleen Porcell, said the agency doesn't certify KN95 masks and recommends they "only be used in crisis situations" when N95 masks are not available. She said they "should not be used during aerosol-generating medical procedures" unless the alternative is an ordinary "facemask or improvised device."

Jarrett said doctors were concerned that the KN95 masks wouldn't adequately protect workers.

"We didn't trust it," Jarrett said. "The mask has to be tight. We were not confident because of the way the mask was constructed."
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illia
觉得不好就退,也不是强买强卖,这个新闻只是说某一个地方买到了某个不好的kn95口罩,不要转进到所有kn95都不好
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kreaty
国内90%以上kn95资质是买的,大家别好心办坏事...太可怕
觉得不好就退,也不是强买强卖,这个新闻只是说某一个地方买到了某个不好的kn95口罩,不要转进到所有kn95都不好
illia 发表于 3/27/2020 1:52:53 AM


NIOSH本来就不认证KN95,不是某个品牌而已,如果院方坚持要NIOSH认证,那就是所有的KN95都不符合标准,别自己加油添醋。N95和KN95本来就是两套认证系统,只能说标准差不多,不严苛的话可以互换,所以接受不接受是院方自己的判定,人家不愿意冒风险,就别一头热了。
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peterpdf
回复 1楼Presentgift的帖子 现在不要捐口罩。 一是人家可能当三无产品扔了,二是好多人根本不知道珍惜,还按照平时的用法用。大家手里的口罩可以留到最后再捐
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aoiqa
CDC自己说有些认证过的KN95是可以的,没有认证的当然不行。 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/respirators-strategy/crisis-alternate-strategies.html
花花朵朵 发表于 3/27/2020 1:27:45 AM


没有认证过的就不能叫KN95,如果没认证过的还印上KN95那就是假冒产品。
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layjohns
N95工业版都可以用了,还尼玛矫情
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walterwhite
带阀门的是不是更不行?
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durkin
擦,这一集我好像看过,当时湖北还是哪儿的政府,说当地生产的出口用的N95口罩不是KN95,不合格所以要停产。
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sunfic
加拿大都开始接收KN95了,美国真够矫情的。
加拿大鹅都开始生产防护服了。
Beau 发表于 3/27/2020 1:21:53 AM

这个估计是翻译的错误 这批口罩应该是山寨货 连kn95都不是 正式的kn95是接受的
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sunfic

但是這個醫院發現他們訂的KN95不行。https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/coronavirus/2020/03/26/nj-coronavirus-health-care-facilities-worry-equipment-scams/5078215002/

That was the case when Holy Name Medical Center recently purchased 1,000 protective masks but opened the box and discovered they did not fit properly because of the way they were made. The masks were returned to the vendor, said Adam Jarrett, the hospital's chief medical officer.

He said the hospital was "not using the regular vendor" that it typically relies on for supplies and that it received a shipment of KN95 masks, "which is what we were expecting to receive." KN95 masks are similar to N95 but are made in China instead of the U.S.

A spokeswoman said the hospital "could not confirm" that the masks had been certified by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, known as NIOSH.

A NIOSH spokeswoman, Arleen Porcell, said the agency doesn't certify KN95 masks and recommends they "only be used in crisis situations" when N95 masks are not available. She said they "should not be used during aerosol-generating medical procedures" unless the alternative is an ordinary "facemask or improvised device."

Jarrett said doctors were concerned that the KN95 masks wouldn't adequately protect workers.

"We didn't trust it," Jarrett said. "The mask has to be tight. We were not confident because of the way the mask was constructed."

EdwardVIII 发表于 3/27/2020 1:46:50 AM

这应该是山寨kn95 估计国内也没人要

这应该是山寨kn95 估计国内也没人要

sunfic 发表于 3/27/2020 2:12:56 AM

本来以为你看不到上面的原文,结果发现原来是看到了也看不懂,全靠脑补,文章里哪里说了山寨?分明就是他们不愿意接受没NIOSH认证的口罩,而NIOSH也明明白白说了他们不认证KN95!要不您找个NIOSH认证的不是山寨的KN95来给大家见识见识?
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weiadou
目测国内有NIOSH认证的不超过5家,说真的,还是不缺。 中国疫情够汹涌吧,也没听说KN95是不合格产品啊? 还是矫情。
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laurenplus
文章说左边的kn95 是假的,中间的kn95 可以接受,谁说都不接受kn95了? 我买过假的kn95 ,就是一块软布,带上去一点紧实的感觉都没有。 那去前线那可是害人
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cathytree
美国人就是这么作死自己的。因为制定这些规则的人都tmd躲在后面。
不娶何撩
新闻说NY的医院都收自己缝制的,这比自己的缝的强多了。 新州不要,估计要的医院挺多的。
oceanmist 发表于 3/27/2020 1:26:48 AM


你搜一下黑心口罩
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florenced
有就不错了
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zhegufei
不要好心做了坏事 耽误医疗机构时间

新州圣名医院收到一批未经认证的口罩,现已退货。


随着新冠病毒疫情爆发,纽新地区医院的防护设备紧缺,纷纷加大采购力度。然而新州多家医院近日曝出采购到未经认证的假口罩,有些甚至拼错了检验的机构的名称缩写。新州参议会正在商讨一项法案,拟增加对于出售山寨医护用具的惩罚力度。
新州北部的圣名医院(Holy Name Medical Center)一度是全州接受新冠病毒感染者最多的医院,日前采购1000个口罩,但却发现这批口罩未经美国职业安全暨健康研究所(National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health,NIOSH)认证。
医院首席医疗官Adam Jarrett表示,由于物资紧缺,医院无法依赖以往长期供货的厂家,但他们新收到的KN95口罩无法确保医护人员的安全。NIOSH发言人Arleen Porcell表示,该机构不会对任何KN95口罩进行认证,而是只认证防护效果更好的N95口罩。

Presentgift 发表于 3/27/2020 12:59:12 AM


很好。新泽西前途一片光明。
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niggy
真是矫情。。。KN95比普通口罩好啊
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helment
人家文章里不是写得清清楚楚带上了不fit,所以不能用啊,难道不应该退吗?而且文里也说了,本来就expect kn95, 只是这批不fit,所以不trust, 人家没有嫌弃KN95,只是怀疑这批质量不好。

He said the hospital was "not using the regular vendor" that it typically relies on for supplies and that it received a shipment of KN95 masks, "which is what we were expecting to receive."

The problem isn't limited to outright scams. In some cases, hospitals desperate for equipment are dealing with vendors and manufacturers they don't know.

That was the case when Holy Name Medical Center recently purchased 1,000 protective masks but opened the box and discovered they did not fit properly because of the way they were made. The masks were returned to the vendor, said Adam Jarrett, the hospital's chief medical officer.
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44ff
如果本来没有的,用了比没有好
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auroraed
有就不错了
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Hudsonbay7
标准不一样,有用的就好太多了
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ggbreeze
kn95也好贵3.5刀一个吧,捐的都是真金白银呀
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brainwong
回复 25楼cathytree的帖子 你应该叫赶快叫你的中国同胞口罩捐回来
冷啊
我们这什么口罩都要,包括手缝的
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catdog0613
我们这里医院可以发材料让大家回去缝完再拿回来,能有kn 95好吗?太矫情了 不要的话给我们医院好不啦
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doraemonrun
这不是矫情 如果医院接受了捐赠给医生用 出了问题 医院会被告死 医生私人接受朋友馈赠用另外一回事
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Pigsqwerty
觉得不好就退,也不是强买强卖,这个新闻只是说某一个地方买到了某个不好的kn95口罩,不要转进到所有kn95都不好
illia 发表于 3/27/2020 1:52:53 AM

同意
甜甜天蓝
说明还是不缺
minijing 发表于 3/27/2020 1:28:40 AM

嗯,看到这个觉得局面应该还好,安心了不少。
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eddy16112
非医用的KN95没有防水层,前线医生戴一天非常危险,不过外面加一个外科口罩应该可以解决
珞珈山街
非医用的KN95没有防水层,前线医生戴一天非常危险,不过外面加一个外科口罩应该可以解决
eddy16112 发表于 3/28/2020 4:29:12 AM

我去医院,就是这样装备的。就两个用过的kn95(从前对抗雾霾买的用的),晾一晾,再重复用。外面的口罩,也不知道是不是医用,就有三四个,对付着。

平时就是棉口罩内衬卫生护垫。