https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/817974987/every-single-individual-must-stay-home-italy-s-coronavirus-deaths-pass-china-s Remuzzi says he is now hearing information about it from general practitioners. "They remember having seen very strange pneumonia, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even November," he says. "This means that the virus was circulating, at least in [the northern region of] Lombardy and before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China."
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/817974987/every-single-individual-must-stay-home-italy-s-coronavirus-deaths-pass-china-s Remuzzi says he is now hearing information about it from general practitioners. "They remember having seen very strange pneumonia, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even November," he says. "This means that the virus was circulating, at least in [the northern region of] Lombardy and before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China."
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/817974987/every-single-individual-must-stay-home-italy-s-coronavirus-deaths-pass-china-s Remuzzi says he is now hearing information about it from general practitioners. "They remember having seen very strange pneumonia, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even November," he says. "This means that the virus was circulating, at least in [the northern region of] Lombardy and before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China."
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/817974987/every-single-individual-must-stay-home-italy-s-coronavirus-deaths-pass-china-s
Remuzzi says he is now hearing information about it from general practitioners. "They remember having seen very strange pneumonia, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even November," he says. "This means that the virus was circulating, at least in [the northern region of] Lombardy and before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China."
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另外,除了极高的传染速度,该肺炎在欧洲死的亡率是流感的10倍到60倍(在意大利ICU不够用时,死亡率是流感的80倍),这么高死亡率,这么快传染率,即使是傻人,直观想一下也会知道,不会有医院两个多月都不去检查这个与众不同的肺炎感染自己众多医护人员的成因是什么,却把它看成流感。更何况西方医疗优越于中国的一个重要方面就是检测手段,欧美医生比中国医生更习惯于用检测手段。
其实,中国外宣不断地竭尽全力在世界宣传“武汉病毒不是来自武汉”,是个政治问题,而不是科学问题,因为有基本科学素养的人都能看出它的逻辑荒谬。
多谢考古! 难道十二月温州人就带过去了?可是按照传播速度也不可能闷这么久才爆啊?
击鼓传锅?
我以为是军运会理论续集?美国什么生化武器研究所去年十月莫名关闭?然后那时候撒给全世界?
谢谢都是我想说的
这不是npr说的吗?
我11月20号左右就在华人上看到国内有不明传染病。那时猜是鼠疫。你们还记得吗?
LOL 岂不是之前白掐了。
温州人回去为什么武汉爆了,这个得先圆了否则太说不过去了。
甩锅意大利也许真的可行,党妈手中有牌,就看党妈
的能量和决心了。
先前党妈企图扣锅给美国,说好听点是不识相,说难听了是作死。党妈现在终于掉头了,意大利说不定也会配合,在疫带疫路上,拿人手短。
党妈行动力超强的,蓝金黄所向披靡,已经有意大利的医生跳出来支持党妈了。
中国人站有来了,中国人自豪吧!
Fox News 说最早在中国发现的是11月中。
嗯 清晰
一开始认为是武汉人带去浙江,温州人带去意大利的。所以意大利爆发在武汉之后。但是现在这个医生怀疑更早就有,就不知道了。
赵立坚也是奉旨行事呀!在国际上造谣是为了拱火轰川普下台呀,虽然拜登上台也未必就对中共那么好,但是他们觉得没有比川普更糟的了,贸易战中共感觉吃老大亏了,不想执行,就想美方换帅吧
拜登比川普还亲华,面子上肯定是说狠话,实际上不会,跟布什一家类似
美国意大利都是太严谨,讲话太实在,而且是在大家都理解的范围里讲,然后就被out of context断章取义。
世界第二大经济实体不爆别人不敢随便爆。。。