中国前两个月数据出炉,经济受到冠状病毒重创

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miraclemd
楼主 (北美华人网)
过几个月,美国的经济数据估计也会吓人

Dire Chinese economic data reveals devastating coronavirus hit
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China’s industrial output fell to its lowest level on record in the first two months of this year and urban unemployment hit its highest rate ever in February, as the coronavirus brought the world’s second-largest economy to a standstill.Industrial output tumbled by 13.5 per cent in the first two months of this year and the urban unemployment rate surged to 6.2 per cent in February, the National Bureau of Statistics said on Monday.The latest economic data also showed that China retail sales plummeted by 20.5 per cent year on year in January and February and fixed asset investment fell by 24.5 per cent, down from 5.4 per cent growth when the data were last reported.The numbers came in far below analysts’ expectations with many China experts expressing surprise that government officials were willing to report such devastating figures.“The latest activity and spending data were much weaker than expected and point to a far deeper downturn than during the Global Financial Crisis,” Capital Economics said in a note on Monday.“We had previously assumed that the statistics bureau would be reluctant to fully acknowledge the recent weakness as doing so would make official GDP targets unreachable. But the latest data suggest otherwise and point to a deeper contraction than we had anticipated.”Growth in services production fell 13 per cent in the first two months, according to official data. Coupled with the industrial production figure, the data suggests that China’s gross domestic product growth was -13 per cent during the first two months of the year, according to Capital Economics.“The actual shock could be much bigger than those deeply negative January-February numbers suggest, because the lockdowns started only from 23 January,” said Nomura’s chief China economist Ting Lu.Officials in Beijing attempted to put a positive spin on the numbers, noting that the impact was temporary. But the data — some of the worst official figures ever reported in China — bode poorly for the country’s economic outlook in 2020.“The economic development in the first two months was affected by the outbreak of Covid-19,” said Mao Shengyong at the National Bureau of Statistics. “However, from a comprehensive perspective, the impact of the viral disease is short term, external and manageable.”The outbreak that started in the central China city of Wuhan in December has led to a widespread lockdown of cities across the country. The movement of migrant workers looking to return to factories across the country has been hindered, resulting in a serious hit to urban unemployment.The poor economic data comes as new cases of coronavirus in China have plummeted while the number of infections has soared across the rest of the world.Many analysts expect that China’s growth in the first three months of the year could fall below 3 per cent despite economic activity in many cities beginning to recover.RecommendedAnalysisThe Big ReadCoronavirus: China’s risky plan to revive the economyAfter initially suffering a supply shock, with its factories unable to operate, many economists are concerned China could now face a plunge in demand as the rest of the world cuts imports.China’s central bank has taken some monetary policy measures to help stimulate the economy but analysts said policymakers would need to do more to stimulate the economy.Other central banks, including the US Federal Reserve, have unleashed huge stimulus packages to cushion growth as the outbreak sweeps across the US and Europe.
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Landmark2012
数字真实吗?
花花叶
先活命吧 谁家也不会好看的
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lansenlin
这是肯定的了,只希望疫情控制好
星球大战
现在很多地方在重复上演武汉

那未来几个月这些地方在经济上也会同样上演如此的惨象
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pizzawithnut
我的意思是这个时候他们不考虑下自己未来的经济情况,反而忙着转移仇恨,攻击美国,怎么有的人会觉得我说国内人不知道自己经济一落千丈?难道我说的不是事实?
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vivilxw
为什么国内论坛上对这些只字不提,只顾着骂美国?
pizzawithnut 发表于 3/16/2020 12:46:01 AM

因为发不出声
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Shinlg
一点不惊讶, 最坏的还没到来。 原来是一个卖家得病, 现在是所有买家都被传染。 连锁反应,卖家的生意难有起色, 买家的心里阴影还在扩大
炫彩衣飞舞
发这些有什么意义呢?谁家都一样。 最多就是参考一下未来两个月美国有多惨
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swuwan
为什么国内论坛上对这些只字不提,只顾着骂美国?
pizzawithnut 发表于 3/16/2020 12:46:01 AM

配合川普吧,你看川普不是被吓得只顾给股市添柴加油,一点都不顾人民死活了嘛
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dk43l12
这不是很正常 吗???、 有些人不相信中国能控制疫情,但中国就是控制住了。 就是用了这种几乎是把整个社会停 下来1-2个月的办法 控制。 当时各小区封闭,出入要量体温。
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jianlin679
股市血崩
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dk43l12
为什么国内论坛上对这些只字不提,只顾着骂美国?
pizzawithnut 发表于 3/16/2020 12:46:01 AM [/url]


中国各大新闻网站的财经版都有报导,
这数据本来就是中国官方才公布的。

中国国内的人根本一点也不奇怪,因为他们是亲历者。

亲眼见证了 整个社会冰封了1-2个月, 他们自己出不出门自己不知道吗。
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cheeseball
胡说。新浪的报道是:1-2月份国内经济经受住了新冠肺炎疫情的冲击。
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ilovevancouver
胡说。新浪的报道是:1-2月份国内经济经受住了新冠肺炎疫情的冲击。
cheeseball 发表于 3/16/2020 1:38:13 AM

Why am I not surprised?
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bluemoon
预测之中的
这不是很正常 吗???、

有些人不相信中国能控制疫情,但中国就是控制住了。

就是用了这种几乎是把整个社会停 下来1-2个月的办法 控制。

当时各小区封闭,出入要量体温。
dk43l12 发表于 3/16/2020 12:54:42 AM

真控制住了吗?听说武汉很多转阴又复阳了。方舱也是匆匆解散
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elleyy
讲真国内有啥关我啥事,再说了喜欢都是捡好听的说。
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baby.chen
刚刚听亲历新冠的武汉朋友简单讲述了一下全家人发病以及他自己死神面前走一遭的经历,突然觉得什么经济啊股票啊都没有意义了,活着就行...简单概括就是太恐怖了,差点死了,然后核酸还从没测出来阳性🤦🏼‍♀️
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dk43l12

给个链接吧……我反正是没搜到

虽然但是 发表于 3/16/2020 1:47:12 AM


我是说这数据是中国统计局发布的,

中国人都知道这数据不好。
https://new.qq.com/omn/20200316/20200316A0B74B00.html
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dk43l12

真控制住了吗?听说武汉很多转阴又复阳了。方舱也是匆匆解散

吵 发表于 3/16/2020 1:52:20 AM


中国最严的时候,小区完全不给出,快递员不准进小区, 要拿只能到大门交接。当时我记得国内快递业宣传的是:无接触快递。就是双方不碰触。所有的快递都洒消毒水,连电梯按键都喷药水。

怎么可能控制不住,

如果中国控制 不住,现在海外入境中国就不会管的如此之严了。

因为内部已经烂了,还拦着外面,毫无意义。

现在严拦海外入境人士,全部隔离14天,

就证明了内部的确已经好转。
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jiangyoudang17
这个新闻对普通华人大妈有毛意义啊?脚趾头都能想到的结果啊,内行或许还可以逐一捡出来分析。过去几年以及未来10年就是一个比差的时代,不是哪个国家更好,是哪个国家相对不那么差。 唯一对大妈有意义的就是过去10年盯着数字财产的观念需要变一变了
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miraclemd
发这些有什么意义呢?谁家都一样。

最多就是参考一下未来两个月美国有多惨
炫彩衣飞舞 发表于 3/16/2020 12:47:57 AM


这个意义就是预示美国经济可能的走向,与大家的股市房市工作息息相关
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dk43l12


中国牺牲如此大经济代价换来的暂时控制,随着全面复工社会秩序回复以往,切段的病毒传染链会被再次激活使抗疫成果毁于一旦

虽然但是 发表于 3/16/2020 2:23:53 AM [/url]


的确有风险。

因为 普通民众发现已经控制 住了,时间一长,人的警惕性就会下降,

到时不管是海外传入的,还是内部潜伏期的,有可能导致另一波小高潮。

具体怎么样,只能等待时间去检验了
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aoiqa
这是控制住疫情的代价!所以对于任何传染疾病,一定要歼灭在摇篮时期,别报任何侥幸心理,否则代价惨痛!!!
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yaner11


的确有风险。

因为 普通民众发现已经控制 住了,时间一长,人的警惕性就会下降,

到时不管是海外传入的,还是内部潜伏期的,有可能导致另一波小高潮。

具体怎么样,只能等待时间去检验了

dk43l12 发表于 3/16/2020 2:31:20 AM


其实只要不是集中爆发,第一时间发现就马上隔离,问题不大。
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amd06

配合川普吧,你看川普不是被吓得只顾给股市添柴加油,一点都不顾人民死活了嘛

swuwan 发表于 3/16/2020 12:53:06 AM

把你后半句换成刁大大更准确
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miaoerl
这不是肯定的么?中国人都知道不用看数据,闭着眼睛都知道损失多吓人。 可是,如果中国当时没这么做,现在就不光是经济损失了,而是人财两失。
甜甜天蓝
刚刚听亲历新冠的武汉朋友简单讲述了一下全家人发病以及他自己死神面前走一遭的经历,突然觉得什么经济啊股票啊都没有意义了,活着就行...简单概括就是太恐怖了,差点死了,然后核酸还从没测出来阳性🤦🏼‍♀️
baby.chen 发表于 3/16/2020 2:02:03 AM


同意,今年的目标就是活过2020.
花花叶

真控制住了吗?听说武汉很多转阴又复阳了。方舱也是匆匆解散

吵 发表于 3/16/2020 1:52:20 AM

方舱明确说了是休舱 任何时候有需要就会重新启动

新闻你们不看的?
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janegaoya
两个月停工停产国内人不知道经济情况? 我看是你家人都是从来不上班不给社会做贡献的那一批人吧。
为什么国内论坛上对这些只字不提,只顾着骂美国? 同时玩豆瓣和贴吧的表示真没看到过。 pizzawithnut 发表于 3/16/2020 12:46:00 AM
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homemmmjjj
如果公布的数据都这么差,那真实的数据。。。
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Roxanne87
两个月停工停产国内人不知道经济情况?
我看是你家人都是从来不上班不给社会做贡献的那一批人吧。

janegaoya 发表于 3/16/2020 3:12:10 AM

这帮人么懂得呀,只会嘴炮什么,贡献什么啦?
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s9441314
牆內的宣傳:日子過得跟蜜一樣甜!!
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pizzawithnut
两个月停工停产国内人不知道经济情况?
我看是你家人都是从来不上班不给社会做贡献的那一批人吧。

janegaoya 发表于 3/16/2020 3:12:10 AM


嘴巴吃枪药了?我就好奇国内经济都这么差了那帮网民还不担心自己,整天闲出屁了骂美国,你在这里满随便骂别人家人莫非是嘴巴也染了病毒?我看你就是天天躲在键盘后攻击人来发挥可怜的优越感的可怜虫,想撕逼我可以奉陪,我还算给你积德了不像你嘴这么贱骂人父母,真不知随便骂别人父母的是什么货色
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pizzawithnut
两个月停工停产国内人不知道经济情况?
我看是你家人都是从来不上班不给社会做贡献的那一批人吧。

janegaoya 发表于 3/16/2020 3:12:10 AM


我的意思是国内人什么都不知道吗?我的意思是这个时候他们不为自己的经济担忧,反而忙着转移仇恨,攻击美国,这么到你嘴里变成另种意思不说,还要攻击我的家人?嘴贱是病,快去治吧,键盘等会儿在敲也不迟
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Xilimali
不重创才怪了
过几个月,美国的经济数据估计也会吓人 Dire Chinese economic data reveals devastating coronavirus hit Please use the sharing tools found via the share button at the top or side of articles. Copying articles to share with others is a breach of FT.com T&Cs and Copyright Policy. Email [email protected] to buy additional rights. Subscribers may share up to 10 or 20 articles per month using the gift article service. More information can befound here . https://www.ft.com/content/318ae26c-6733-11ea-800d-da70cff6e4d3 China’s industrial output fell to its lowest level on record in the first two months of this year and urban unemployment hit its highest rate ever in February, as the coronavirus brought the world’s second-largest economy to a standstill.Industrial output tumbled by 13.5 per cent in the first two months of this year and the urban unemployment rate surged to 6.2 per cent in February, the National Bureau of Statistics said on Monday.The latest economic data also showed that China retail sales plummeted by 20.5 per cent year on year in January and February and fixed asset investment fell by 24.5 per cent, down from 5.4 per cent growth when the data were last reported.The numbers came in far below analysts’ expectations with many China experts expressing surprise that government officials were willing to report such devastating figures.“The latest activity and spending data were much weaker than expected and point to a far deeper downturn than during the Global Financial Crisis,” Capital Economics said in a note on Monday.“We had previously assumed that the statistics bureau would be reluctant to fully acknowledge the recent weakness as doing so would make official GDP targets unreachable. But the latest data suggest otherwise and point to a deeper contraction than we had anticipated.”Growth in services production fell 13 per cent in the first two months, according to official data. Coupled with the industrial production figure, the data suggests that China’s gross domestic product growth was -13 per cent during the first two months of the year, according to Capital Economics.“The actual shock could be much bigger than those deeply negative January-February numbers suggest, because the lockdowns started only from 23 January,” said Nomura’s chief China economist Ting Lu.Officials in Beijing attempted to put a positive spin on the numbers, noting that the impact was temporary. But the data — some of the worst official figures ever reported in China — bode poorly for the country’s economic outlook in 2020.“The economic development in the first two months was affected by the outbreak of Covid-19,” said Mao Shengyong at the National Bureau of Statistics. “However, from a comprehensive perspective, the impact of the viral disease is short term, external and manageable.”The outbreak that started in the central China city of Wuhan in December has led to a widespread lockdown of cities across the country. The movement of migrant workers looking to return to factories across the country has been hindered, resulting in a serious hit to urban unemployment.The poor economic data comes as new cases of coronavirus in China have plummeted while the number of infections has soared across the rest of the world.Many analysts expect that China’s growth in the first three months of the year could fall below 3 per cent despite economic activity in many cities beginning to recover.RecommendedAnalysisThe Big ReadCoronavirus: China’s risky plan to revive the economyAfter initially suffering a supply shock, with its factories unable to operate, many economists are concerned China could now face a plunge in demand as the rest of the world cuts imports.China’s central bank has taken some monetary policy measures to help stimulate the economy but analysts said policymakers would need to do more to stimulate the economy.Other central banks, including the US Federal Reserve, have unleashed huge stimulus packages to cushion growth as the outbreak sweeps across the US and Europe. miraclemd 发表于 3/16/2020 00:40:00
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ccc60
为什么国内论坛上对这些只字不提,只顾着骂美国?
pizzawithnut 发表于 3/16/2020 12:46:01 AM

因为发不出声

井底之蛙别来评论了。你知道中国几个论坛啊,还发不出声。自由国有多少新闻引用国内的,你们还当秘闻在看,滑不滑稽。就像台湾节目中说中国大陆吃不起茶叶蛋。井底之蛙注定要被淘汰
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ccc60
国内的宣传口肯定是,大家在习主席的带领下,日子一天比一天红火。美帝日薄西山,奄奄一息啦! 和文革那会儿如出一辙啊。

全世界你最聪明好了,中国14亿人都傻的。我们都快饿死了也不造反。
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en010272

井底之蛙别来评论了。你知道中国几个论坛啊,还发不出声。自由国有多少新闻引用国内的,你们还当秘闻在看,滑不滑稽。就像台湾节目中说中国大陆吃不起茶叶蛋。井底之蛙注定要被淘汰

ccc60 发表于 3/16/2020 11:28:13 AM

打脸文来了
https://cn.nytimes.com/business/20200310/china-coronavirus-disabilities-wealth-gap/?utm_source=tw-nytimeschinese&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=cur
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jackwonglstc


其实只要不是集中爆发,第一时间发现就马上隔离,问题不大。

yaner11 发表于 3/16/2020 2:36:39 AM


问题是只要国民恢复原有生活节奏,你就无法保证第一时间发现隔离

对疫情的高度监控是以丧失社会正常秩序为代价的

虽然但是 发表于 3/16/2020 3:03:55 AM
高度监控是为了防止发病人太多,耗尽医疗资源。 一定高发期控制住,复工之后,有小爆发是完全正常的。只要医疗系统能承受,也不会有什么问题。
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wendylee
中国的第二个季度还是会很糟糕,这次会死一帮子小企业 不知道政府准备采取什么措施来保护现在房市巨大的bubble不要破掉
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Namama
中国是牺牲经济保人命。。 全国停摆2个月,经济数据也就这样了。。 意大利3月份数据也一样好看不了,谁都跑不了。。 为啥中国网上依旧反美? 这是贸易战后遗症。。 被迫打了2年贸易战,至今还在打,对美国有好感才奇怪了。。
甜甜天蓝
中国现在基本上还是战时管制状态。据北京的朋友说,上班的时候全程都必须带口罩,会有人去抽查,发现不带口罩,甚至带的不端正的,会被通报批评,甚至可能要求单位限期整改。出入境更别说了,要求强制隔离14天这招应该是很厉害,此外还有绿码来trace行踪和做access control,虽然还是可能还会有漏网的,但应该比松松散散完全不管好多了。
那要看什么样的复工,如果想控制住,只能小范围复工,如果全面复工完全不限制出差出国回京回国,那疫情必定无法第一时间监控控制 就是一句话,控制疫情的手段和全面复工是相矛盾的,鱼翅熊掌看你要哪个而已 虽然但是 发表于 3/16/2020 12:17:00 PM
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pizzawithnut

井底之蛙别来评论了。你知道中国几个论坛啊,还发不出声。自由国有多少新闻引用国内的,你们还当秘闻在看,滑不滑稽。就像台湾节目中说中国大陆吃不起茶叶蛋。井底之蛙注定要被淘汰

ccc60 发表于 3/16/2020 11:28:13 AM

一月份申请的新号就别跳得那么欢了,你们有空继续骂美国,骂华人,在公众号上制造假新闻,还是多关心一下怎么防止二次爆发吧
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henshuhen
中国是牺牲经济保人命。。
全国停摆2个月,经济数据也就这样了。。

意大利3月份数据也一样好看不了,谁都跑不了。。

为啥中国网上依旧反美?
这是贸易战后遗症。。
被迫打了2年贸易战,至今还在打,对美国有好感才奇怪了。。
Namama 发表于 3/16/2020 12:17:08 PM

那现在赶着人复工算什么
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en010272

那现在赶着人复工算什么
henshuhen 发表于 3/16/2020 2:34:15 PM

赶着人去送死
牡丹玫瑰
这次哪国都不会好看
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henshuhen

方舱明确说了是休舱 任何时候有需要就会重新启动

新闻你们不看的?

花花叶 发表于 3/16/2020 2:44:10 AM

武汉郊区已经在建新的方舱了
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Namama
那现在赶着人复工算什么
henshuhen 发表于 3/16/2020 2:34:15 PM


疫情控制住了,为啥不复工?
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happypuppy


中国最严的时候,小区完全不给出,快递员不准进小区, 要拿只能到大门交接。当时我记得国内快递业宣传的是:无接触快递。就是双方不碰触。所有的快递都洒消毒水,连电梯按键都喷药水。

怎么可能控制不住,

如果中国控制 不住,现在海外入境中国就不会管的如此之严了。

因为内部已经烂了,还拦着外面,毫无意义。

现在严拦海外入境人士,全部隔离14天,

就证明了内部的确已经好转。

dk43l12 发表于 3/16/2020 2:06:39 AM

不是吧。。。海外入境都查得这么严格了,为什么还要把脏水泼在输入型上面?
甜甜圈123

不是吧。。。海外入境都查得这么严格了,为什么还要把脏水泼在输入型上面?

happypuppy 发表于 3/16/2020 5:36:10 PM

你是装傻还是不看新闻?前两天波士顿那个黎大妈多着呢。千里带毒回国。中国能怎么办。遣返她回来?不得收治么,这种人头不算在国内确诊算哪儿。什么叫把脏水泼给输入。告诉你意大利伊朗类似这样逃回去的话人就更多了。
甜甜圈123

说过了,战时管制就不是全面复工……正常经济来往的前提是人员自由流动,无论是省际还是国际。
中国的选择是经济很大牺牲换取疫情很大控制

西方的选择是经济有限牺牲换取疫情有限控制

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虽然但是 发表于 3/16/2020 2:41:04 PM


没法比。死去的人命用钱怎么个衡量法?别告诉我死的多了人均gdp可以创新高
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假的,假的。其实更严重。
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回复 38楼pizzawithnut的帖子 对呀,你嘴贱兼白痴。厉害国删帖很厉害不知道?混豆瓣的都知道删帖很厉害,尤其是跟疫情有关的。你混🉐️数据火星上的豆瓣网?或者豆瓣上的吃喝玩乐什么都不管的组?
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回复 57楼三三两两的帖子

嘴巴生疮的东西还是快点就医吧,脑子多不清楚可以把我说的话当成为tg洗?
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回复 57楼三三两两的帖子

国内论坛是删贴啊,我不一开始就说了,整天骂美国,对负面新闻提了就删,反正什么都是美国害的不然就是7999歪屁股,我又没否认。你恨tg恨得神经错乱,恨不得立刻操家伙去天安门自焚,也不能逮住人就咬,就乱喷吧?