贴东西贴全了： “However, masks will probably make little difference if you’re just walking around town or taking a bus so there is no need to bulk-buy a huge supply.”
[url=https://www.ft.com/content/ad7ae6b4-5eab-11ea-b0ab-339c2307bcd4]https://www.ft.com/content/ad7ae6b4-5eab-11ea-b0ab-339c2307bcd4[/url] Hong Kong’s coronavirus response leads to sharp drop in flu cases Winter influenza season ends more than a month earlier than usual Share on Twitter (opens new window) Share on Facebook (opens new window) Share on LinkedIn (opens new window) Nicolle Liu in Hong Kong March 5 2020 Print this page 32 Be the first to know about new Coronavirus stories A graphic with no description Hong Kong’s extreme measures to combat the spread of the coronavirus, including school closures and working from home, have brought an early end to the winter flu season, suggesting they might also be effective against the new disease, say experts. Data provided by the government’s Centre for Health Protection show the incidence of infection with influenza had fallen to less than 1 per cent by the end of February, marking an end to the winter flu season, which normally extends to the end of March or into April. “A similar pattern happened in 2003 during Sars. All respiratory infection diseases were down between March to September compared to 2002,” said David Hui, a respiratory disease expert from the Chinese University of Hong Kong. “Influenza spread is one of the markers [of the coronavirus containment] as the same principles of avoiding droplets and social contacts apply.” Ho Pak-leung, a leading microbiologist at the University of Hong Kong, said data showed the flu season had shortened from an average of 98.7 days to 34 days this year. He said the sharp fall was probably due to the widespread adoption of personal hygiene measures including washing hands and wearing face masks. He also pointed to measures to minimise contact between people.
很多人是真的觉得口罩没用，而不是买不到。毕竟连政府都宣传，wearing a mask, as a healthy person, won't protect you. 但是这并不意味着戴口罩一点用都没有，总比不戴口罩好吧。 然后一帮专家还老是说不正确戴口罩更危险blablabla，合着是歧视大家连口罩都带不好，感觉很侮辱智商。 还说戴口罩如果不洗手等于白戴，那我既戴口罩又吸收还不行吗？反正他们的思路就是很清奇。
口罩没用的话，纽约警察囤那么多干啥呢？ POLICE PREPARATIONS The NYPD has given out 67,550 pairs of gloves and 26,440 masks to officers, along with disinfectant wipes and hand sanitizer. About 500,000 additional masks are in storage, with more on the way, officials said. A police union, the Police Benevolent Association, had filed a complaint with a state labor agency this week, alleging the police department failed to provide adequate protective equipment, including masks and gloves, to all police officers. City officials pushed back on that, with Mayor Bill de Blasio saying the union was spreading “misinformation.” So far, no NYPD officers have tested positive for the virus, but more than a dozen remain in self-quarantine for various reasons.
口罩没用的话，纽约警察囤那么多干啥呢？ POLICE PREPARATIONS The NYPD has given out 67,550 pairs of gloves and 26,440 masks to officers, along with disinfectant wipes and hand sanitizer. About 500,000 additional masks are in storage, with more on the way, officials said. A police union, the Police Benevolent Association, had filed a complaint with a state labor agency this week, alleging the police department failed to provide adequate protective equipment, including masks and gloves, to all police officers. City officials pushed back on that, with Mayor Bill de Blasio saying the union was spreading “misinformation.” So far, no NYPD officers have tested positive for the virus, but more than a dozen remain in self-quarantine for various reasons. mongo123 发表于 3/16/2020 6:35:01 AM
他们论点就是如下几条
一是说cdc guideline让有病的人才带
二是说surgeon general也是怎么说
三是local一个麻醉师自称是critical care doctor，告诉大家戴了风险更大。好多人说，宁愿相信医生
四是说买口罩的人是和医疗机构抢资源
五是说他们医生都告诉他们戴了没用
凡是说戴口罩有用的，都被嘲被骂，昨天我转Time和Guardian文章说口罩可以防止感染，我们附近一个顶尖学区的board member实名diss我do a disservice to the community。之后我转的文章被举报被删
实在吵不过他们了，遁了
但看到一个妈妈留言反驳我，说她儿子免疫系统疾病，原来戴n95，现在都不戴了。真有点哀其不幸怒其不争，留了一个言劝她还是给她儿子戴上，也只能做这么多了
无所谓了，别人觉得你有病毒，离你远一点，这不刚好保持距离么。
我又没有屯过口罩，我也不认识囤了口罩的华人，我不觉得华人在这个事情上要觉得理亏要低调
就是你这种人，完全没必要的浪费n95。前线医护该用的用不到。医护大批感染隔离，大家都完蛋。
这比较明智。
老年人和免疫系统有病的人信了这个邪，很危险啊
而且大家都戴了，才更安全，家里放着不愿意戴，还跑去歌照唱舞照跳，危害的还不是所有人
日本团队研究：无症状感染者超四成
http://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1658919688660219687
钻石公主号的研究：无症状感染者约三成
http://news.sciencenet.cn/htmlnews/2020/2/436184.shtm
如果一个感染者迎面打个喷嚏，没戴口罩的健康人，怎么保护自己？
你是好心，他们不懂就算了。
家人朋友能听劝的劝一劝，不听的也没办法。
我觉得应该相信支持他们。。。
反正我每天带着，有备无患。
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/can-a-face-mask-stop-coronavirus-covid-19-facts-checked戴口罩降低飞沫传染概率，可降低5倍被感染风险
一个呼吸系统的病毒，保护住口鼻很难理解吗？
至于他们到底相不相信，我感觉已经有一些人松动了，街上能见到老外戴，我们这学校官方也说，因为无症状感染者广泛存在，见高危人群的时候考虑戴口罩。 但是政治正确就是不能说出来的。。。
都戴也不可操作，全球爆发了产能也跟不上。现在酌情自己戴保护好自己， 有富余就分给认识的老人/高危人群，尤其是还得继续工作的。
拜你所赐，想戴也没有！
好心人赶紧把你再次开楼呼吁从中国买口罩捐助美国的医护吧
你们把口罩都买空了老美想戴也没地儿买啊
啥时候让国内给美国捐口罩？？？？？？？？？？？？？？/
我早说了，白人对政府和权威的盲从性远远超过华人
这跟从小到大的成长经历有关
结果我被几个id骂成wmfh，呵呵呵
最后这句我不同意。前面balabala一大段，最后总结这么一句，不明白什么意思
你说的大部分通过接触传播没有得到证实
再说，你能控制周围的人不飞沫传播吗
即使打喷嚏咳嗽捂住，还有概率有飞沫落到你脸上呢，更何况还有人不捂住
到时候就晚了吧
等着以后做实验吧，都说自己是对的，我确实说服不了美国人戴口罩，因为他们给我的理由给我给他们的理由是完全一样的，经验+听医生的，就是结论相反
walmart 还有amazon都有第三方在卖，价格合理的。
开始死人了就会抢着戴了。
什么理论依据？展开说说
95口罩那么难戴吗？油漆工人不是戴的很好？
群众都带口罩了，医护更不够了。到时候更多声音骂政府。你要是政府，你怎么做？
N95 也分带阀门和不带阀门的，普通人用带阀门的完全没毛病，医院根本不要的
我们一般超市买到的N95医护根本用不了
说瞎话说的自己都信了
好多人家有防地震防山火的口罩，他们觉得covid-19这次不用