加州的确有测试不够的问题。昨天是200个待测但没有测试材料 2:21 p.m. California has backlog of up to 200 tests: The state has 180-200 tests backlogged, which commercial lab Quest is going to help process, Gov. Gavin Newsom said. Testing kits do not have all of the components needed to actually complete a test, Newsom said, which is one reason why there has been confusion about how many tests are available at the federal and local level. “Testing kits are not a test,” Newsom said. “Many of these test kits are like printers but without ink.” https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Coronavirus-live-updates-Six-dead-in-Washington-15100710.php
2:06 p.m. California expands testing capability: The state now has 18 labs with 7,675 tests currently available, Gov. Gavin Newsom said. A 19th lab will begin testing shortly. The first commercial lab, Quest in San Juan Capistrano, began testing Monday, and has tested 100 individuals so far. In the coming weeks, that lab should have the capacity to process 1,200 tests. In addition, two other Quest labs are expected to open by roughly March 24, Newsom said. After all three Quest labs are up and running, commercial testing is expected to have the capacity to test 5,000 to 5,500 individuals per day. Two state hospitals are conducting their own tests, and more hospitals are expected to do the same. Only 800 people had been tested as of Monday. 看来得到24号才有华州的测试能力。到周一前只有800被测过。应该还包括游轮上的 链接同上
2:06 p.m. California expands testing capability: The state now has 18 labs with 7,675 tests currently available, Gov. Gavin Newsom said. A 19th lab will begin testing shortly. The first commercial lab, Quest in San Juan Capistrano, began testing Monday, and has tested 100 individuals so far. In the coming weeks, that lab should have the capacity to process 1,200 tests. In addition, two other Quest labs are expected to open by roughly March 24, Newsom said. After all three Quest labs are up and running, commercial testing is expected to have the capacity to test 5,000 to 5,500 individuals per day. Two state hospitals are conducting their own tests, and more hospitals are expected to do the same. Only 800 people had been tested as of Monday.
2:06 p.m. California expands testing capability: The state now has 18 labs with 7,675 tests currently available, Gov. Gavin Newsom said. A 19th lab will begin testing shortly. The first commercial lab, Quest in San Juan Capistrano, began testing Monday, and has tested 100 individuals so far. In the coming weeks, that lab should have the capacity to process 1,200 tests. In addition, two other Quest labs are expected to open by roughly March 24, Newsom said. After all three Quest labs are up and running, commercial testing is expected to have the capacity to test 5,000 to 5,500 individuals per day. Two state hospitals are conducting their own tests, and more hospitals are expected to do the same. Only 800 people had been tested as of Monday.
2:21 p.m. California has backlog of up to 200 tests: The state has 180-200 tests backlogged, which commercial lab Quest is going to help process, Gov. Gavin Newsom said. Testing kits do not have all of the components needed to actually complete a test, Newsom said, which is one reason why there has been confusion about how many tests are available at the federal and local level. “Testing kits are not a test,” Newsom said. “Many of these test kits are like printers but without ink.”
回复 1楼huuur的帖子 这个帖子很好，美国的这个系统就是要自救，所以大家要发出声音。 santa Clara county和旧金山已经都不允许1000人以上的聚会了，我儿子的学校也已经根据新的要求调整了学校的calendar。所以我们的诉求可否集中在增加测试上，当务之急是要找出原因，测试到底卡在哪里了，是测试盒不够？到底有几个测试的Lab available？每个的测试能力是多少？接受哪里的样品？采集样品的点不够？CDC的guideline不让查？insurance guideline不让查？还是其他的原因？大家的把流程搞清。其实这个应该是主流媒体的活儿
这篇文章谈到了几个数据点，关于美国目前的数据量，2900 是FDA周六给出的数据，当然这个数据一直在变，总之测试数量相对而言还是非常低的 When the CDC has provided data, it has been slow and incomplete. On Saturday, Stephen Hahn, the commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, told reporters that 5,861 specimens—not people—had been tested for the coronavirus by the end of the week. As a rule of thumb, it takes about two specimens to deliver results for a single patient, which would make this equivalent to about 2,900 people tested through Saturday. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-testing-numbers/607714/
测试条件是要有症状：发烧，咳嗽，呼吸困难；所有检测和治疗费用免费； Kaiser Permanente currently does not recommend testing people who are not showing symptoms of COVID-19 (cough, fever, difficulty breathing). For patients with symptoms who meet the criteria, we will make appropriate arrangements for testing. As a member of Kaiser Permanente, you will not have to pay for costs related to COVID-19 screening or testing.
It’s easy to get care and advice through our telehealth options — including phone, email, and video — without an in-person visit. To take advantage of these telehealth options, you should call the advice number on your Kaiser Permanente membership card for instructions.
测试条件是要有症状：发烧，咳嗽，呼吸困难；所有检测和治疗费用免费； Kaiser Permanente currently does not recommend testing people who are not showing symptoms of COVID-19 (cough, fever, difficulty breathing). For patients with symptoms who meet the criteria, we will make appropriate arrangements for testing. As a member of Kaiser Permanente, you will not have to pay for costs related to COVID-19 screening or testing.
It’s easy to get care and advice through our telehealth options — including phone, email, and video — without an in-person visit. To take advantage of these telehealth options, you should call the advice number on your Kaiser Permanente membership card for instructions.
2:21 p.m. California has backlog of up to 200 tests: The state has 180-200 tests backlogged, which commercial lab Quest is going to help process, Gov. Gavin Newsom said. Testing kits do not have all of the components needed to actually complete a test, Newsom said, which is one reason why there has been confusion about how many tests are available at the federal and local level. “Testing kits are not a test,” Newsom said. “Many of these test kits are like printers but without ink.”
测试条件是要有症状：发烧，咳嗽，呼吸困难；所有检测和治疗费用免费； Kaiser Permanente currently does not recommend testing people who are not showing symptoms of COVID-19 (cough, fever, difficulty breathing). For patients with symptoms who meet the criteria, we will make appropriate arrangements for testing. As a member of Kaiser Permanente, you will not have to pay for costs related to COVID-19 screening or testing.
It’s easy to get care and advice through our telehealth options — including phone, email, and video — without an in-person visit. To take advantage of these telehealth options, you should call the advice number on your Kaiser Permanente membership card for instructions.
但是反观加州呢，
- 很多病人得不到测试，在各种媒体求助发帖
-很多社区已经开始有爆发的趋势，但是很多county的决定是不再实施14天隔离
- 各种大型活动不停，LA马拉松周日刚跑，2万7千人
- 公校坚持不停学，CA 卫生部的指令是没有确诊，不能停学
感觉加州就是一颗雷，随时会大爆炸。大家集思广益，想想看有什么可以做的？大家的留言，我会持续更新！
我觉得最重要的让州政府和卫生部明白事情的紧迫性：
一是测试： 公布测试数量 + 进行大量的suviliance testing
二是采取主动措施，而不是消极等待，比如停止大型活动，停学，让雇主允许WFH
加州州长电话：Gavin Newsom - 916-445-2841
CA 卫生部电话：916-558-1784
联系加州的Senator和Reresentative： https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/CA
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sd官方网站表示，至今只测了一百多个
🛋️ 沙发板凳
我在湾区。我不担心。
斗争啊。有用的。看我上头的贴
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两周之后就爆表了，美国真的是刚刚开始啊。。哎~
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邮轮上开头测了45个左右，后来就没更新过，不晓得具体什么计划，是不是只是隔离，有症状才测？加拿大的已经被接回去了，英国好像也接，加州南北各留下500左右本州的。船员留船上隔离，不晓得生病的船员怎么办？有人看到细节嘛？
Newsom 是说federal 给的test kit 不全？ 有些是带了墨的打印机能用，有些是没墨的打印机所以打不了
那问题是，federal/CDC为啥给加州送用不了的test kit? 滥竽充数玩的溜？
昨天新闻有提到，小孩子不上学怕很多家庭没人看，而且有些低收入家庭，孩子就指着学校营养午餐呢，我去服务的foodbank，每到假期都要给有学童的家庭多发食物。
我请假的时候和娃的老师聊了两句。
我觉得老师也紧张，每天接触那么多家庭出来的孩子风险也很大。
测都不测一下的吗？回家隔离就行了？
允许家长自己决定就算不错了，上学的孩子少，老师跟那些孩子也相对安全点，还得严管，我家有个晚辈现在是个洁癖，她小时候可是跟小伙伴随便分享食物--比如某次春游，能对着瓶口尝尝别人带的饮料，自己的饮料也是这么给别人喝，一个瓶子轮流喝不知道厉害，之前家里也教过讲卫生，小孩子不在意，或者觉得好朋友都是干净的。家里以为她听话，也不会盯着问，那次是描述春游过程，说漏嘴了，不过也许就是因为那次被家长发现狠狠说了，现在洁癖了。
同问，VP不是说不是上周一百万这周四百万吗，怎么现在kit还珍贵得象金子一样？
我猜kit有用，但是测试跟不上，取样应该不至于成为瓶颈。前几天有人提议进口kit，那个，如果lab跟不上，没用啊。
西雅图那边医生开单子测得阳性率7-8%，同时我想肯定也有很多人没症状或者轻微，自己都想不到咨询医生。所以麻烦。
这个测试not available真的和迷一样。
Cdc测试下放权利后还见过好几个说不能测等cdc批的例子。
所以是虽然地方可以自己测了，但是什么情况自己可以测的判断权和决定权还不在本地？
外行人。不过我看很多内行id现身说法，这个测试对测试人员要求不高啊。
主要是机器跑。
反而是取样要求高？
瓶颈到底在哪里呢？
取样要求再高，能做的医院不少，而目前能跑的lab不多。
我知道取样要求高，国内用咽试子，就有报导阴性很多是取样点不到位造成的。这边有说用鼻试子的，那取样难度比咽还低吧？
瓶颈就是不愿测不想给你测。
好像很混乱，上次班上有个人说他们要求测，医生说不符合cdc规定，那时候cdc已经放权给医生决定，所以不知道是信息传递问题，还是虽然医生可以决定，但是他还是要follow一定的指引。要通过医生我觉得没错，但是医生和医生的判断，可以差别很大。
county的最新政策是这些员工没有症状也不需要隔离了
希望雇主和当事人都能谨慎一点，如果政府要求隔离，那不可以不，如果政府说可以不，雇主和员工都愿意，政府不可以阻止吧。
加州富人多窮人更多，還有大量非法移民，不讓上學可能真有小孩沒飯吃。錢是關鍵。總要讓學校關門的不如捐錢給學校，換小孩可以不去學校。
家里没有老人帮忙的双职工需要学校停学公司一起停工的飘过
是啊，都不容易，我知道有公司疫情期间明令禁止非公司业务相关的访客进入，家人朋友，特别强调孩子，不可以进入。
应该是吧，county的说法都是建议
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https://healthy.kaiserpermanente.org/alerts/p1/2019-novel-coronavirus-feb-2020
Kaiser从3/10开始测了，已经通知了，具体见上；他们应该是自己的lab?
测试条件是要有症状：发烧，咳嗽，呼吸困难；所有检测和治疗费用免费；
Kaiser Permanente currently does not recommend testing people who are not showing symptoms of COVID-19 (cough, fever, difficulty breathing). For patients with symptoms who meet the criteria, we will make appropriate arrangements for testing. As a member of Kaiser Permanente, you will not have to pay for costs related to COVID-19 screening or testing.
kaiser的service number，你可以在你的Kaiser卡的背面找到。我的是：
1-866-454-8855
It’s easy to get care and advice through our telehealth options — including phone, email, and video — without an in-person visit. To take advantage of these telehealth options, you should call the advice number on your Kaiser Permanente membership card for instructions.
这个不隔离的政策太脑残，要是加州疫情失控, 有没有可能把民主党给选下台来？
坐标oc，至少到昨天为止，kaiser也是要送到county去测的也就是说整个county只能测10个，从哪里开都没用
我劝过你们NYC同伴租个小RV出去几周。
除非再出个有号召力的施瓦辛格
Kaiser 不是用自己的LAB吗？
湾区还科技中心呢
希望多些像Bill Gates那样的大佬跳出来
现在北加社区传播的很多是2月21号回来的游轮游客，很难控制了
没说这话，只是说can arrange the test
问题是下了车，大部分人还是和一堆人一起进了电梯，吸一整天的中央空调啊！
好可怕………
消息可靠吗？我就在南湾kaiser上班，没有说是基本不给测啊，但是确实要到达检测标准，我们组今天就开了好几个单子
我也有朋友在el camino real做医生，没听说瞒报的事啊
我觉得免费检测治疗肯定有这个问题。这病感染的人太多了。应该允许自费测，或部分自费测，测试价格全国统一。
昨天刚和一位公立老师聊过，说是不上班没工资，只有10多天的有薪病假。该老师还在说这就是个严重点的流感，唉，搞得我当场就有点激动了。
收藏下。
这个是你们做的啊，签过了，谢谢。希望能尽快给我们留孩子在家的选择。
加州跟纽约比就是躺赢
同关心，两个大的名医院，总有一家能做出些实事的吧?
是五千人 今天新闻里 fauci
真相看cysky的帖子， 人家就是南湾kaiser的， 没说重病才测
sd官方网站表示，至今只测了一百多个