西雅图at-home testing有希望了!

依然笑眯眯
楼主 (北美华人网)
[url=https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/gates-funded-program-will-soon-offer-home-testing-kits-for-new-coronavirus/]https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/gates-funded-program-will-soon-offer-home-testing-kits-for-new-coronavirus/[/url] NEW: Testing for the novel coronavirus will get a huge boost in the coming weeks as a project funded by Bill Gates and his foundation begins offering home-testing kits that will allow people to swab their noses and send the samples back for analysis. 总算看到个好消息。
夏雪两相宜
天,这快递员是高危啊。如果是感染者,那么碰过的东西都带了病毒,怎么保证不传染给送递盒子的人?忘了赞bill gates一下,真的,美国的伟大在于有这些有能力有行动力的个人
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cannie
美国的伟大在于 super heros
夏雪两相宜
加州的小扎还不跟上吗?
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tricycle
好消息!
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_summerdays
天,这快递员是高危啊。如果是感染者,那么碰过的东西都带了病毒,怎么保证不传染给送递盒子的人?忘了赞bill gates一下,真的,美国的伟大在于有这些有能力有行动力的个人
夏雪两相宜 发表于 3/8/2020 11:52:50 AM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2515874&postid=83052337#83052337][img][/img][/url]

可不可以快递员自己再带个袋子,套住感染者碰过的盒子。。
不过我觉得他们应该考虑过吧
大青椒
这个保险cover吗?
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_summerdays
这个保险cover吗?
大青椒 发表于 3/8/2020 11:57:44 AM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2515874&postid=83052421#83052421][img][/img][/url]

好像不要钱,我朋友转发了一个通过SEATTLE FLU 测的微软的员工回复我找一下贴过来
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cannie

可不可以快递员自己再带个袋子,套住感染者碰过的盒子。。
不过我觉得他们应该考虑过吧

_summerdays 发表于 3/8/2020 11:57:33 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2515874&postid=83052417#83052417] [/url]


好惨, 感觉快递员会传给超多人
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bw376
天,这快递员是高危啊。如果是感染者,那么碰过的东西都带了病毒,怎么保证不传染给送递盒子的人?忘了赞bill gates一下,真的,美国的伟大在于有这些有能力有行动力的个人
夏雪两相宜 发表于 3/8/2020 11:52:50 AM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2515874&postid=83052337#83052337][img][/img][/url]


是的,赞行动派👍
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jiangbanya
戴手套
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_summerdays
微软感染病毒的一员工的自述:

Hi, I wanted to let you all know that I tested positive for COVID-19. I suspect that many, many people in the community have/had it but just haven’t been tested. I’m fine now mostly, a little short of breath and occasional cough.

We are following recommendations to keep myself and the kids and my husband quarantined at home for the next 7 days (which will be 14 days total since my symptoms started) even though they are not showing any symptoms. There’s a chance they could still develop symptoms so are not yet in the clear. Technically I am supposedly in the clear, not contagious anymore, but I’m staying home for the next week anyway. Since the day I got sick I have been nervous about the coronavirus and have stayed home and canceled events and tried to take every precaution to keep other people safe. For the first 72 hours I hardly even saw the kids and certainly did not touch them as I was mostly confined to the bedroom.

On Friday, 2/28 I woke up with a sore throat and headache. By noon I was finding it difficult to continue working and informed my client that I had to stop working. Luckily I mostly work from home. By 2pm I had chills and body aches and a mild fever of 100.2 that was gone within a half hour after I took Advil. By 3pm I was in bed and stayed there until well into the next day. I thought it was the flu, but that was the same day we found out that someone near Seattle had gotten coronavirus in the community without any connection to a person overseas. On Saturday I went to the Bartell Greenwood care clinic and was given Tamiflu. I tried to get tested for coronavirus but was told I didn’t meet the criteria for testing at that time. At the suggestion of the nurse, I enrolled (online) in the Seattle Flu Study. Within 2 hours the FedEx guy was at my door. It was a Saturday so I didn’t mail the sample back until Monday. Late yesterday I received a call from a person at King County Public Health informing me that I tested positive for COVID-19. She was lovely and we talked for 30 minutes and she followed up again this morning.

I have personally notified everyone I can think of who I might’ve had contact with. I’ve been on the phone for hours since yesterday.

I am pretty sure I can pinpoint the day I became infected—Tuesday 2/25 I went to lunch with 7 people at a restaurant and by that Friday 4 of us had symptoms (fever, etc). There was no physical contact such as hand shaking or hugging, only sitting at a table together for an hour. Similarly I had a work meeting with 3 people on Thursday (the day before I showed symptoms) and 2 of them got mild fevers within days. Again, no physical contact, just sitting at a table together. This tells you how quickly it transmits. Some people develop only a mild fever and that’s it.

I am extremely grateful to everyone in my community who has offered nothing but support (from afar) and kind words. I should mention that we are fully stocked up on groceries and other supplies at this point, so we’re all set there. Thank you! One of Maia’s weekly chores is wiping down all doorknobs and handles in the house and I’d like to think maybe this contributed in some small way to containing the virus in our household! (Thanks, Maia!)

This has been devastating for everyone involved but I am most concerned for the people whose health is already compromised in some way, and it’s for them that we all need to stay home and contain this virus as quickly as possible. I hope you’ll also consider not attending any events and especially if you’ve had any fever or symptoms, please self-quarantine to keep others safe.

If you have any fever or other symptoms you can call this new King County coronavirus call center to report a suspected case or ask for more information: 206-477-3977.
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ocyoyo
这算什么好消息,擦擦鼻子就能查出来吗?根本测不准的吧。 人家取样只取上呼吸道的咽拭子都测不准呢。
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oceanmist
希望一切都向好的方向发展。
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appleapp
这个只是在家取样,还要寄回去lab 检测,不能算at home “testing”吧, 应该是at home sampling
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seabreeze2009
点赞!太好了
小毛衣
这个必须赞!!!!早发现早隔离才能控制疫情!!!
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hijklmn
这算什么好消息,擦擦鼻子就能查出来吗?根本测不准的吧。

人家取样只取上呼吸道的咽拭子都测不准呢。
ocyoyo 发表于 3/8/2020 12:02:52 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2515874&postid=83052497#83052497][img][/img][/url]


我也疑惑,如果是这样取样就好,那之前为什么会出现取样没取好的情况。。。
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oceanmist
美国要能像韩国那样drive through test就好了。高科技怎么不发生这个最先进的国家呢。
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calliopsis
这个从下呼吸道感染开始的,能吐出痰来测最准,光取鼻子不行的啊,而且没有training的人根本戳不到那么后面,你去测过流感就知道,护士伸可进去了
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ysunny
天,这快递员是高危啊。如果是感染者,那么碰过的东西都带了病毒,怎么保证不传染给送递盒子的人?忘了赞bill gates一下,真的,美国的伟大在于有这些有能力有行动力的个人

re 赞bill gates!
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henshuhen
最近看到盖茨基金有点扎眼原谅我阴谋论看多了
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hearyt
mark mark!
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ysunny
美国要能像韩国那样drive through test就好了。高科技怎么不发生这个最先进的国家呢。

美国的人口密度你不觉得at home sampling更好吗
大衣被禁
我的症状跟这女的一模一样。 我也快好了。
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aceracer
好消息。希望有措施保护好快递员。
快乐小新
Good news !
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autofill
这个在家怎么取样啊?两个商业Lab现在都是可以测,不给取样呢。
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yizhi
外出吃饭比较危险,但这个故事里大家都是轻症,甚至比流感还轻,就是低烧了几天。
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3babydust3
这个保险cover吗?
大青椒 发表于 3/8/2020 11:57:44 AM

免费,你是不是特别失望?

手动点名你这个大五毛。别说我是轮子,我就是全家在美国已经没有亲人在中国了,所以我不希望美国不好,中国陆沉我不care。
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lianqiao
天,这快递员是高危啊。如果是感染者,那么碰过的东西都带了病毒,怎么保证不传染给送递盒子的人?忘了赞bill gates一下,真的,美国的伟大在于有这些有能力有行动力的个人
夏雪两相宜 发表于 3/8/2020 11:52:50 AM

上门取样,sample放门外面,邮递员都不用和病人接触。邮递员戴手套,把sample放易封袋就行了。倒是这个鼻子取样,要很严重了才能测到阳性吧。下呼吸道感染,咽喉病毒都少,更别说鼻子
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lianqiao
微软感染病毒的一员工的自述:

Hi, I wanted to let you all know that I tested positive for COVID-19. I suspect that many, many people in the community have/had it but just haven’t been tested. I’m fine now mostly, a little short of breath and occasional cough.

We are following recommendations to keep myself and the kids and my husband quarantined at home for the next 7 days (which will be 14 days total since my symptoms started) even though they are not showing any symptoms. There’s a chance they could still develop symptoms so are not yet in the clear. Technically I am supposedly in the clear, not contagious anymore, but I’m staying home for the next week anyway. Since the day I got sick I have been nervous about the coronavirus and have stayed home and canceled events and tried to take every precaution to keep other people safe. For the first 72 hours I hardly even saw the kids and certainly did not touch them as I was mostly confined to the bedroom.

On Friday, 2/28 I woke up with a sore throat and headache. By noon I was finding it difficult to continue working and informed my client that I had to stop working. Luckily I mostly work from home. By 2pm I had chills and body aches and a mild fever of 100.2 that was gone within a half hour after I took Advil. By 3pm I was in bed and stayed there until well into the next day. I thought it was the flu, but that was the same day we found out that someone near Seattle had gotten coronavirus in the community without any connection to a person overseas. On Saturday I went to the Bartell Greenwood care clinic and was given Tamiflu. I tried to get tested for coronavirus but was told I didn’t meet the criteria for testing at that time. At the suggestion of the nurse, I enrolled (online) in the Seattle Flu Study. Within 2 hours the FedEx guy was at my door. It was a Saturday so I didn’t mail the sample back until Monday. Late yesterday I received a call from a person at King County Public Health informing me that I tested positive for COVID-19. She was lovely and we talked for 30 minutes and she followed up again this morning.

I have personally notified everyone I can think of who I might’ve had contact with. I’ve been on the phone for hours since yesterday.

I am pretty sure I can pinpoint the day I became infected—Tuesday 2/25 I went to lunch with 7 people at a restaurant and by that Friday 4 of us had symptoms (fever, etc). There was no physical contact such as hand shaking or hugging, only sitting at a table together for an hour. Similarly I had a work meeting with 3 people on Thursday (the day before I showed symptoms) and 2 of them got mild fevers within days. Again, no physical contact, just sitting at a table together. This tells you how quickly it transmits. Some people develop only a mild fever and that’s it.

I am extremely grateful to everyone in my community who has offered nothing but support (from afar) and kind words. I should mention that we are fully stocked up on groceries and other supplies at this point, so we’re all set there. Thank you! One of Maia’s weekly chores is wiping down all doorknobs and handles in the house and I’d like to think maybe this contributed in some small way to containing the virus in our household! (Thanks, Maia!)

This has been devastating for everyone involved but I am most concerned for the people whose health is already compromised in some way, and it’s for them that we all need to stay home and contain this virus as quickly as possible. I hope you’ll also consider not attending any events and especially if you’ve had any fever or symptoms, please self-quarantine to keep others safe.

If you have any fever or other symptoms you can call this new King County coronavirus call center to report a suspected case or ask for more information: 206-477-3977.
_summerdays 发表于 3/8/2020 12:02:21 PM

真像这位说的这么容易传染,那肯定全球流行,防疫只是拖延一些时间而已。
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fibril
天,这个不是在昨天那个fda/cdc专家和quest/labcorp的会议上被质疑的运送方法吗?传染病专家注意lab这样传送样品到检测地点会极大增加社区暴露在病毒威胁中的几率……
弹指芳华
咽拭子还是用韩国的drive through办法吧。
再就是咽拭子不准也不好取,有没有人研究过,用大便样品会更准吗?
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yayran
感觉比国内的症状轻啊,难道真是基因有关?
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Danning
再等等吧, 希望她家人没有被感染
天,这快递员是高危啊。如果是感染者,那么碰过的东西都带了病毒,怎么保证不传染给送递盒子的人?忘了赞bill gates一下,真的,美国的伟大在于有这些有能力有行动力的个人
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waterL


好惨, 感觉快递员会传给超多人

cannie 发表于 3/8/2020 12:00:25 PM


我想象特殊sample收集员开个巨大邮箱卡车,大家出来自己往里投,快递员自己坐驾驶室里就行了。door dash, Uber eat之类的送餐公司可以贡献tracking软件,卡车快到了就在自家门口等着。
弹指芳华
也,突然想起来amazon有用无人机投递到后院的技术,现在能用起来不?
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tigerpi314
赞!
微软感染病毒的一员工的自述: Hi, I wanted to let you all know that I tested positive for COVID-19. I suspect that many, many people in the community have/had it but just haven’t been tested. I’m fine now mostly, a little short of breath and occasional cough. We are following recommendations to keep myself and the kids and my husband quarantined at home for the next 7 days (which will be 14 days total since my symptoms started) even though they are not showing any symptoms. There’s a chance they could still develop symptoms so are not yet in the clear. Technically I am supposedly in the clear, not contagious anymore, but I’m staying home for the next week anyway. Since the day I got sick I have been nervous about the coronavirus and have stayed home and canceled events and tried to take every precaution to keep other people safe. For the first 72 hours I hardly even saw the kids and certainly did not touch them as I was mostly confined to the bedroom. On Friday, 2/28 I woke up with a sore throat and headache. By noon I was finding it difficult to continue working and informed my client that I had to stop working. Luckily I mostly work from home. By 2pm I had chills and body aches and a mild fever of 100.2 that was gone within a half hour after I took Advil. By 3pm I was in bed and stayed there until well into the next day. I thought it was the flu, but that was the same day we found out that someone near Seattle had gotten coronavirus in the community without any connection to a person overseas.On Saturday I went to the Bartell Greenwood care clinic and was given Tamiflu. I tried to get tested for coronavirus but was told I didn’t meet the criteria for testing at that time. At the suggestion of the nurse, I enrolled (online) in the Seattle Flu Study. Within 2 hours the FedEx guy was at my door. It was a Saturday so I didn’t mail the sample back until Monday. Late yesterday I received a call from a person at King County Public Health informing me that I tested positive for COVID-19. She was lovely and we talked for 30 minutes and she followed up again this morning. I have personally notified everyone I can think of who I might’ve had contact with. I’ve been on the phone for hours since yesterday. I am pretty sure I can pinpoint the day I became infected—Tuesday 2/25 I went to lunch with 7 people at a restaurant and by that Friday 4 of us had symptoms (fever, etc). There was no physical contact such as hand shaking or hugging, only sitting at a table together for an hour. Similarly I had a work meeting with 3 people on Thursday (the day before I showed symptoms) and 2 of them got mild fevers within days. Again, no physical contact, just sitting at a table together. This tells you how quickly it transmits. Some people develop only a mild fever and that’s it. I am extremely grateful to everyone in my community who has offered nothing but support (from afar) and kind words. I should mention that we are fully stocked up on groceries and other supplies at this point, so we’re all set there. Thank you! One of Maia’s weekly chores is wiping down all doorknobs and handles in the house and I’d like to think maybe this contributed in some small way to containing the virus in our household! (Thanks, Maia!) This has been devastating for everyone involved but I am most concerned for the people whose health is already compromised in some way, and it’s for them that we all need to stay home and contain this virus as quickly as possible. I hope you’ll also consider not attending any events and especially if you’ve had any fever or symptoms, please self-quarantine to keep others safe. If you have any fever or other symptoms you can call this new King County coronavirus call center to report a suspected case or ask for more information: 206-477-3977. _summerdays 发表于 3/8/2020 12:02:00 PM
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qxixi77
天,这快递员是高危啊。如果是感染者,那么碰过的东西都带了病毒,怎么保证不传染给送递盒子的人?忘了赞bill gates一下,真的,美国的伟大在于有这些有能力有行动力的个人

快递员需要更加注意个人卫生或者特别防护。其实这次暴露出来的问题不也是个人卫生需要加强吗,不习惯性摸眼鼻嘴,勤洗手等等。另外那个微软感染者的信也提到了她网上报名flu study然后fedex送来检测盒,她自己取样再寄出去。这种操作已经不是新鲜事了,应该说要加强个人防护吧,然后特殊职业需要更注意
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patx2449
只要CDC放权,Gates基金会在西雅图,西雅图又是amazon和微软和一众大企业的总部,华盛顿大学和一众私立研究所的研究实力也很强,要钱有钱,要技术有技术,现在是只要祈祷政府官员不要掉链子,百姓自觉。其实Gates要能来领导这个抗疫也行,他还在NEMJ上专门发表了对于COVID-19的评论性论文,他对这个病的认识远高于政客们。
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floridapalmtree
回复 [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2515874&postid=83052491#83052491]12楼_summerdays的帖子[/url] 这说明还是要戴口罩啊!
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chicot
学学韩国,drive thou检测吧。看不起中国,新加坡韩国的技术总能学一学把。 美国有的是够大的停车场。 这不是存心坑快递么、
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CleverBeaver
只要CDC放权,Gates基金会在西雅图,西雅图又是amazon和微软和一众大企业的总部,华盛顿大学和一众私立研究所的研究实力也很强,要钱有钱,要技术有技术,现在是只要祈祷政府官员不要掉链子,百姓自觉。其实Gates要能来领导这个抗疫也行,他还在NEMJ上专门发表了对于COVID-19的评论性论文,他对这个病的认识远高于政客们。
patx2449 发表于 3/8/2020 4:06:20 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2515874&postid=83055743#83055743][img][/img][/url]

赞一下这个seattle flu的神速
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mylittle9
华州这次走到前面了。赞一个。
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maomao12
赞一个。
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tinyrice
这个test之中 采样的有效性比PCR的准确性更重要 标准都是喉深处和鼻深处取样 要么就痰 都还是有很多假阴性 不然中国就不会一定要做ct 这是biohazard sample 干了会有气溶胶的 必须有专门的处理运送的 普通快递怎么行 Anyways 比没有好吧
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abccoffee
这个真要点赞了
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ytwk2
又不是靠邮局投递员收集测试样本,专业人员有防护保护开专车上门收集拭子应该没有问题。病人自己先上网填表提供自己的信息,如果符合新冠病毒症状可以要求测试盒,2小时内会有人送上门。也许上门送测试盒的同时会等10分钟让病人取样本包装好然后收集人员用专门的包装取走。
这种方法可以避免阳性病人外出把病毒传染给别人,也可以让普通感冒病人避免去医院、诊所得到感染。

When the expanded testing system is up and running, people in the Seattle area who think they might be infected with SARS-CoV-2, the scientific name for the new coronavirus, can fill out a questionnaire online. If their symptoms are consistent, they can request a test kit, which will be delivered to their home within two hours. The swabs will be collected and delivered to the UW lab.
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utk
这个一定要顶! 希望马上能拿到较真实的数据,出合理的政策控制住疫情。
[url=https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/gates-funded-program-will-soon-offer-home-testing-kits-for-new-coronavirus/]https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/gates-funded-program-will-soon-offer-home-testing-kits-for-new-coronavirus/[/url] NEW: Testing for the novel coronavirus will get a huge boost in the coming weeks as a project funded by Bill Gates and his foundation begins offering home-testing kits that will allow people to swab their noses and send the samples back for analysis. 总算看到个好消息。 依然笑眯眯 发表于 3/8/2020 11:50:00 AM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=83052304&postid=83052304#83052304][img][/img][/url]
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lizzie
又不是靠邮局投递员收集测试样本,专业人员有防护保护开专车上门收集拭子应该没有问题。病人自己先上网填表提供自己的信息,如果符合新冠病毒症状可以要求测试盒,2小时内会有人送上门。也许上门送测试盒的同时会等10分钟让病人取样本包装好然后收集人员用专门的包装取走。
这种方法可以避免阳性病人外出把病毒传染给别人,也可以让普通感冒病人避免去医院、诊所得到感染。

When the expanded testing system is up and running, people in the Seattle area who think they might be infected with SARS-CoV-2, the scientific name for the new coronavirus, can fill out a questionnaire online. If their symptoms are consistent, they can request a test kit, which will be delivered to their home within two hours. The swabs will be collected and delivered to the UW lab.

ytwk2 发表于 3/8/2020 6:11:24 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2515874&postid=83057278#83057278][img][/img][/url]

这个举措跟韩国车检似的了。 赞
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Sunny111
USA, the land of the free and the home of the brave!
月沼
谨慎表示怀疑取样准确性
这个他们设计实验的时候应该都会有考虑的吧
这个test之中 采样的有效性比PCR的准确性更重要 标准都是喉深处和鼻深处取样 要么就痰 都还是有很多假阴性 不然中国就不会一定要做ct 这是biohazard sample 干了会有气溶胶的 必须有专门的处理运送的 普通快递怎么行 Anyways 比没有好吧 tinyrice 发表于 3/8/2020 6:09:00 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=83057256&postid=83057256#83057256][img][/img][/url]
心跳的希望
这个 。。。怎么保证谁的sample呢?太容易作假了?
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micheer
给盖茨老哥打CALL 我两个月前还说美国要是也爆发了口罩不够盖茨老哥肯定出手.....
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ljj1218
我贱贱的问一下。。。。世界俩首富都在西雅图,光头大哥呢,公司总部就在西雅图啊,那么多员工。。。。
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feemy
给盖茨老哥打CALL 我两个月前还说美国要是也爆发了口罩不够盖茨老哥肯定出手.....
micheer 发表于 3/8/2020 10:26:28 PM

God bless Bill Gates!
清月随风
这个主意不错,如果可以网购,每家一个,在家自己测,如果阳性,就自我隔离不上班(老板也不会怪你)如果阴性就继续出门工作,随着时间的推移,社会上的疫情就自动慢慢被控制了。
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feemy
我贱贱的问一下。。。。世界俩首富都在西雅图,光头大哥呢,公司总部就在西雅图啊,那么多员工。。。。
ljj1218 发表于 3/8/2020 10:28:26 PM

贝秃这个铁公鸡,世纪贱男!
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cloud0503
回复 [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2515874&postid=83052693#83052693]19楼oceanmist的帖子[/url] 华盛顿大学对自己员工的检测已经用Northwest的停车场作为drive through取样本了。并且是免费的。
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Adrianne
回复 [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2515874&postid=83052693#83052693]19楼oceanmist的帖子[/url]

华盛顿大学对自己员工的检测已经用Northwest的停车场作为drive through取样本了。并且是免费的。
cloud0503 发表于 3/9/2020 12:57:21 AM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2515874&postid=83061995#83061995][img][/img][/url]


这个不错,估计很快Gates也可以搞一个,在MSFT,检测为阴性的直接去上班,检测为阳性的接着回家隔离
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上下立现
贝秃这个铁公鸡,世纪贱男! feemy 发表于 3/8/2020 10:33:00 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=83060432&postid=83060432#83060432][img][/img][/url]