我家儿医刚发来的信,写得真好(版主更新:1楼内增加纽约家庭医生提供的信息)

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ocyoyo
楼主 (北美华人网)
As Chief Medical Officer I am asked daily about advice to Caduceus patients about the Coronavirus; now called Covid-19. Wanting to keep the advice timely and factual, it is very difficult to separate the facts from hysteria. But someone has to do it, so here are the recommendations for Caduceus patients from the CMO. First realize there are FOUR different bugs going around now plus the threat of Covid. Let's look at each... 1. A bacterial infection is currently on the rise-sore throat, productive cough, fever, maybe sinus symptoms. If you are fit and healthy, it may wear itself out in 3-5 days. If you are very young or very old, frail, or sickly, it may lead to pneumonia or sepsis. An antibiotic is effective, and we may be able to swab for it, or do a blood test or xray to make an accurate diagnosis. 2. A viral syndrome with low grade fever, sneezing, cough, can be difficult to differentiate from a bacterial one at first. Even an experienced provider may need testing to tell the difference. It is usually less serious and runs its course over 2-3 days. Antibiotics do not work for a typical virus. We are seeing a fair number of these cases now, on par with this time of year. 3. NEITHER of these are the "flu". Influenza is a totally separate animal. High fevers, aches, abdominal distress, dry cough, and feeling like you've been run over by a truck are common symptoms. It can be diagnosed via a swab in the office. There are special influenza antibiotics (eg Tamiflu) that help reduce the symptoms and duration. The "Flu" seems to have peaked and even gone in Orange County for 2020. In my personal practice we haven't had a positive case since Feb 15th. The Health Department confirms we should see very few new flu cases in March. 4. Covid-19 begins as a typical viral illness- sneezing, coughing, low grade fever. But there are serious differences. Fortunately, we have not had a lot of cases in Southern California--at least not officially diagnosed. But the virus can be spread for two weeks before symptoms appear. In that time, hundreds of people have been put at risk. It is spread by droplets, so simply being near an infected person can spread it if they cough or sneeze. And the 88,000 cases (as of this writing) is misleading since those are CONFIRMED cases. At least 10 times that number have occurred but just not tested for. There is hope that as a cold weather bug, it will fade away with warmer weather. Yet it is still growing at over 1,000 cases a day being reported world wide; the same number as late January when it first appeared. If more kits were available, you can estimate how many new cases are actually occurring. To hear an official say "we have this under control" is irresponsible. To hear people on social media say "There were more flu deaths, life goes on" is just idiotic. For one thing, the flu deaths were over an entire season. This pandemic has just begun.For another, would these same people take a vacation to beautiful downtown Baghdad? Stroll thru the streets of Sinaloa Mexico? Of course not because we know that is dangerous. Covid 19 should also be considered dangerous. What is the difference between an epidemic and a pandemic? An epidemic refers to a condition spreading rapidly. A pandemic is an epidemic spreading throughout the world. We are now in a pandemic. The flu was not a pandemic. As CMO, I am advising the following measures for our patients at least thru March: 1.If you are sick, don't travel. In fact don't leave the house if possible. Of course this is always common sense. But now you run the risk of being quarantined if it is considered possible you harbor Covid 19. Many countries are screening passengers for even low grade fever. Flight attendants are instructed to report anyone they feel is showing signs of infection. If you have a fever you will be detained. and not just sent home, but put in isolation. 2. If you are not sick, but very young, very old, frail, or sickly avoid ALL non-essential travel, or areas where crowds circulate. That means malls, theme parks, churches, even ball games. Going to a school or office may only expose you to dozens of close contacts. But a crowded day at Disney will expose you to THOUSANDS of people who may be incubating Covid. If you are fit and relatively healthy, use common sense. Avoiding crowds and non essential travel may seem like overkill but it isn't just about protecting you- its keeping an unknowing carrier from spreading the virus to thousands of uninfected people. We do not advise staying home from work or school, but if you can cancel that trip to Europe or postpone the day to Universal Studios, it will go a long way to stopping the spread and protecting yourself and your family. 3. If you do travel in March, realize there is a high chance of disrupted travel. You may be not allowed to leave your area or be house confined. Bring your own thermometer, your own cold meds, and an extra supply of your prescription meds in case you are stuck somewhere for weeks. Have documentation of your health insurance with you. Realize you may find tourist venues closed, events canceled, and long lines at areas where screening is going on. 4. Common sense dictates frequent hand washing. Remember the rule is to wash singing "Happy Birthday" to allow enough time to wash. If you are using hand sanitizers like Purell, five seconds is sufficient. Avoid touching other people if possible, maybe a thumbs up instead of shaking hands. Prepare your own meals as much as possible. If you must cough or sneeze in public, cover the face or turn away. Normal face masks are insufficient to block Covid--you'll need to look for N 95 masks. But if your coughing enough to need the mask --STAY HOME! If you are wearing the mask to protect yourself its probably not necessary if you are fit and healthy. 5. If you feel you may have one of those three conditions at the beginning of this blog, DO NOT ignore it. Use Mouse Calls or video visits to talk to your provider. If you feel you must come to the office, alert us so we can swab you or draw your blood in the comfort of your car. If you need to be seen in an exam room, you will be escorted thru the lobby if you alert us in advance. ALL respiratory type infections should be seen and worked up during this crucial time. Covid testing is done at the health dept. IF World wide screening is effective IF everyone follows these FIVE simple rules IF Covid is a cold weather bug only The pandemic will be history. Otherwise we may witness a pandemic unseen in our lifetimes. Gregg DeNicola MD
Chief Medical Officer

版主更新用户Caffeine家庭医生提供的信息纽约市:
- 建议坐地铁带一次性手套
- 那个犹太律师上了ventilator。人本来肥胖,以前得过多次肺炎,所以这次以为也是普通肺炎,去bar mizvah等社区活动打倒一帮人。他状况不是特别好。
- 我医生自己带眼镜,口罩。明天来一个老先生看病,去的那家犹太律师最早去的医院。说该医院全面消毒了。(希望如此)她会带n95.
- 病床:bellevue开始加床做准备了
- 药:chloroquine批发商不给零售发了。战略储备中。
- 他们(一个私人practice)尽量不让病人跑er。我和她分享了武汉的一些教训,他们基本都是在避免这些情况。

后两个让我觉得后台他们还是在做准备的。cdc乌龙,希望别的可以补上。

 

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飞飞猫
110 楼
感谢分享
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dudupiggy
109 楼
感谢分享👍👍👍👍👍
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germanica
108 楼
问一下,为什么是chloroquine啊,google了一下是个管疟疾的药啊?
zx1269 发表于 3/5/2020 11:50:12 AM

这个药被发现治新冠 国内已经在用了
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zl3341
107 楼
我家孩子学校很早的时候就已经发邮件要怎样避免新冠 和如果有疑似怎样处理, 各个专科医院也发各种注意通知, 邮件和信件。城区也有发通知到户,这都是东部都还没有疑似的时候发的, 坐标新英格兰地区,我觉得按照这些准备好, 提高警惕, 为什么一定要像网上很多人一样慌到失去理智, 到处鼓动疯抢食物和医疗用品。武汉是之前人民不知情才出现恐慌, 现在基本信息都知道,怎样防御也很清楚, 检测也是可以无条件检测,也不知道还要慌什么。 我这样说大概又会有人要我不慌死全家了。
mlb 发表于 3/5/2020 1:02:25 PM

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iloveapplebeez
106 楼
这个应该发到网上让大众读 让当权者用

 

🛋️ 沙发板凳

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cistim
当美国医生真难。
还负责科普。
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ocyoyo
当美国医生真难。
还负责科普。
cistim 发表于 3/4/2020 7:30:05 PM

感觉医生对于现在的宣传口径非常不满。
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Narnia
很负责任啊 如果我们娃学校的nurse这么想就好了 她现在还天天说risk is low呢
As Chief Medical Officer I am asked daily about advice to Caduceus patients about the Coronavirus; now called Covid-19.  Wanting to keep the advice timely and factual, it is very difficult to separate the facts from hysteria. But someone has to do it, so here are the recommendations for Caduceus patients from the CMO. First realize there are FOUR different bugs going around now plus the threat of Covid. Let's look at each... 1. A bacterial infection is currently on the rise-sore throat, productive cough, fever, maybe sinus symptoms. If you are fit and healthy, it may wear itself out in 3-5 days. If you are very young or very old, frail, or sickly, it may lead to pneumonia or sepsis. An antibiotic is effective, and we may be able to swab for it, or do a blood test or xray to make an accurate diagnosis. 2. A viral syndrome with low grade fever, sneezing, cough, can be difficult to differentiate from a bacterial one at first. Even an experienced provider may need testing to tell the difference. It is usually less serious and runs its course over 2-3 days. Antibiotics do not work for a typical virus. We are seeing a fair number of these cases now, on par with this time of year. 3. NEITHER of these are the "flu". Influenza is a totally separate animal. High fevers, aches, abdominal distress, dry cough, and feeling like you've been run over by a truck are common symptoms. It can be diagnosed via a swab in the office. There are special influenza antibiotics (eg Tamiflu) that help reduce the symptoms and duration. The "Flu" seems to have peaked and even gone in Orange County for 2020. In my personal practice we haven't had a positive case since Feb 15th. The Health Department confirms we should see very few new flu cases in March. 4. Covid-19 begins as a typical viral illness- sneezing, coughing, low grade fever. But there are serious differences. Fortunately, we have not had a lot of cases in Southern California--at least not officially diagnosed. But the virus can be spread for two weeks before symptoms appear. In that time, hundreds of people have been put at risk. It is spread by droplets, so simply being near an infected person can spread it if they cough or sneeze. And the 88,000 cases (as of this writing) is misleading since those are CONFIRMED cases. At least 10 times that number have occurred but just not tested for. There is hope that as a cold weather bug, it will fade away with warmer weather. Yet it is still growing at over 1,000 cases a day being reported world wide; the same number as late January when it first appeared.  If more kits were available, you can estimate how many new cases are actually occurring. To hear an official say "we have this under control" is irresponsible. To hear people on social media say "There were more flu deaths, life goes on" is just idiotic. For one thing, the flu deaths were over an entire season. This pandemic has just begun.For another, would these same people take a vacation to beautiful downtown Baghdad? Stroll thru the streets of Sinaloa Mexico? Of course not because we know that is dangerous. Covid 19 should also be considered dangerous. What is the difference between an epidemic and a pandemic? An epidemic refers to a condition spreading rapidly. A pandemic is an epidemic spreading throughout the world. We are now in a pandemic. The flu was not a pandemic. As CMO, I am advising the following measures for our patients at least thru March: 1.If you are sick, don't travel. In fact don't leave the house if possible. Of course this is always common sense. But now you run the risk of being quarantined if it is considered possible you harbor Covid 19. Many countries are screening passengers for even low grade fever. Flight attendants are instructed to report anyone they feel is showing signs of infection. If you have a fever you will be detained. and not just sent home, but put in isolation. 2. If you are not sick, but very young, very old, frail, or sickly avoid ALL non-essential travel, or areas where crowds circulate. That means malls, theme parks, churches, even ball games. Going to a school or office may only expose you to dozens of close contacts. But a crowded day at Disney will expose you to THOUSANDS of people who may be incubating Covid. If you are fit and relatively healthy, use common sense. Avoiding crowds and non essential travel may seem like overkill but it isn't just about protecting you- its keeping an unknowing carrier from spreading the virus to thousands of uninfected people. We do not advise staying home from work or school, but if you can cancel that trip to Europe or postpone the day to Universal Studios, it will go a long way to stopping the spread and protecting yourself and your family. 3. If you do travel in March, realize there is a high chance of disrupted travel. You may be not allowed to leave your area or be house confined. Bring your own thermometer, your own cold meds, and an extra supply of your prescription meds in case you are stuck somewhere for weeks. Have documentation of your health insurance with you. Realize you may find tourist venues closed, events canceled, and long lines at areas where screening is going on. 4. Common sense dictates frequent hand washing. Remember the rule is to wash singing "Happy Birthday" to allow enough time to wash. If you are using hand sanitizers like Purell, five seconds is sufficient. Avoid touching other people if possible, maybe a thumbs up instead of shaking hands. Prepare your own meals as much as possible. If you must cough or sneeze in public, cover the face or turn away. Normal face masks are insufficient to block Covid--you'll need to look for N 95 masks. But if your coughing enough to need the mask --STAY HOME! If you are wearing the mask to protect yourself its probably not necessary if you are fit and healthy. 5. If you feel you may have one of those three conditions at the beginning of this blog, DO NOT ignore it. UseMouse Callsor video visits to talk to your provider. If you feel you must come to the office, alert us so we can swab you or draw your blood in the comfort of your car. If you need to be seen in an exam room, you will be escorted thru the lobby if you alert us in advance. ALL respiratory type infections should be seen and worked up during this crucial time. Covid testing is done at the health dept. IF World wide screening is effective IF everyone follows these FIVE simple rules IF Covid is a cold weather bug only The pandemic will be history. Otherwise we may witness a pandemic unseen in our lifetimes. Gregg DeNicola MD Chief Medical Officer ocyoyo 发表于 3/4/2020 7:26:00 PM
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candyland
I wish cdc has this type of common sense.
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119ppp
这真是一篇非常非常好的文章,谢谢分享。
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candyland
回复 4楼Narnia的帖子 我们学校老师还天天给娃洗脑说小孩不会得。
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calliopsis
希望所有的美国人都能得到这样的信息
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awang20546
科普一下真的很有用。因为不是人人都学了至少八年的医生知识。
家有豆豆娃
👍,条理清晰,清楚👍
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liliaqua
写得挺好的,通读了
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GaAs
但是也就是限制travel,不去人多的地方。很多公司已经开始ban international travel and limit domestic travel了。也没说停工停学。就是要大家注意。
小妖精
很负责任啊 如果我们娃学校的nurse这么想就好了 她现在还天天说risk is low呢
As Chief Medical Officer I am asked daily about advice to Caduceus patients about the Coronavirus; now called Covid-19.  Wanting to keep the advice timely and factual, it is very difficult to separate the facts from hysteria. But someone has to do it, so here are the recommendations for Caduceus patients from the CMO. First realize there are FOUR different bugs going around now plus the threat of Covid. Let's look at each... 1. A bacterial infection is currently on the rise-sore throat, productive cough, fever, maybe sinus symptoms. If you are fit and healthy, it may wear itself out in 3-5 days. If you are very young or very old, frail, or sickly, it may lead to pneumonia or sepsis. An antibiotic is effective, and we may be able to swab for it, or do a blood test or xray to make an accurate diagnosis. 2. A viral syndrome with low grade fever, sneezing, cough, can be difficult to differentiate from a bacterial one at first. Even an experienced provider may need testing to tell the difference. It is usually less serious and runs its course over 2-3 days. Antibiotics do not work for a typical virus. We are seeing a fair number of these cases now, on par with this time of year. 3. NEITHER of these are the "flu". Influenza is a totally separate animal. High fevers, aches, abdominal distress, dry cough, and feeling like you've been run over by a truck are common symptoms. It can be diagnosed via a swab in the office. There are special influenza antibiotics (eg Tamiflu) that help reduce the symptoms and duration. The "Flu" seems to have peaked and even gone in Orange County for 2020. In my personal practice we haven't had a positive case since Feb 15th. The Health Department confirms we should see very few new flu cases in March. 4. Covid-19 begins as a typical viral illness- sneezing, coughing, low grade fever. But there are serious differences. Fortunately, we have not had a lot of cases in Southern California--at least not officially diagnosed. But the virus can be spread for two weeks before symptoms appear. In that time, hundreds of people have been put at risk. It is spread by droplets, so simply being near an infected person can spread it if they cough or sneeze. And the 88,000 cases (as of this writing) is misleading since those are CONFIRMED cases. At least 10 times that number have occurred but just not tested for. There is hope that as a cold weather bug, it will fade away with warmer weather. Yet it is still growing at over 1,000 cases a day being reported world wide; the same number as late January when it first appeared.  If more kits were available, you can estimate how many new cases are actually occurring. To hear an official say "we have this under control" is irresponsible. To hear people on social media say "There were more flu deaths, life goes on" is just idiotic. For one thing, the flu deaths were over an entire season. This pandemic has just begun.For another, would these same people take a vacation to beautiful downtown Baghdad? Stroll thru the streets of Sinaloa Mexico? Of course not because we know that is dangerous. Covid 19 should also be considered dangerous. What is the difference between an epidemic and a pandemic? An epidemic refers to a condition spreading rapidly. A pandemic is an epidemic spreading throughout the world. We are now in a pandemic. The flu was not a pandemic. As CMO, I am advising the following measures for our patients at least thru March: 1.If you are sick, don't travel. In fact don't leave the house if possible. Of course this is always common sense. But now you run the risk of being quarantined if it is considered possible you harbor Covid 19. Many countries are screening passengers for even low grade fever. Flight attendants are instructed to report anyone they feel is showing signs of infection. If you have a fever you will be detained. and not just sent home, but put in isolation. 2. If you are not sick, but very young, very old, frail, or sickly avoid ALL non-essential travel, or areas where crowds circulate. That means malls, theme parks, churches, even ball games. Going to a school or office may only expose you to dozens of close contacts. But a crowded day at Disney will expose you to THOUSANDS of people who may be incubating Covid. If you are fit and relatively healthy, use common sense. Avoiding crowds and non essential travel may seem like overkill but it isn't just about protecting you- its keeping an unknowing carrier from spreading the virus to thousands of uninfected people. We do not advise staying home from work or school, but if you can cancel that trip to Europe or postpone the day to Universal Studios, it will go a long way to stopping the spread and protecting yourself and your family. 3. If you do travel in March, realize there is a high chance of disrupted travel. You may be not allowed to leave your area or be house confined. Bring your own thermometer, your own cold meds, and an extra supply of your prescription meds in case you are stuck somewhere for weeks. Have documentation of your health insurance with you. Realize you may find tourist venues closed, events canceled, and long lines at areas where screening is going on. 4. Common sense dictates frequent hand washing. Remember the rule is to wash singing "Happy Birthday" to allow enough time to wash. If you are using hand sanitizers like Purell, five seconds is sufficient. Avoid touching other people if possible, maybe a thumbs up instead of shaking hands. Prepare your own meals as much as possible. If you must cough or sneeze in public, cover the face or turn away. Normal face masks are insufficient to block Covid--you'll need to look for N 95 masks. But if your coughing enough to need the mask --STAY HOME! If you are wearing the mask to protect yourself its probably not necessary if you are fit and healthy. 5. If you feel you may have one of those three conditions at the beginning of this blog, DO NOT ignore it. UseMouse Callsor video visits to talk to your provider. If you feel you must come to the office, alert us so we can swab you or draw your blood in the comfort of your car. If you need to be seen in an exam room, you will be escorted thru the lobby if you alert us in advance. ALL respiratory type infections should be seen and worked up during this crucial time. Covid testing is done at the health dept. IF World wide screening is effective IF everyone follows these FIVE simple rules IF Covid is a cold weather bug only The pandemic will be history. Otherwise we may witness a pandemic unseen in our lifetimes. Gregg DeNicola MD Chief Medical Officer ocyoyo 发表于 3/4/2020 7:26:00 PM


因为这样最简单,不需要过脑子,跟着cdc走就可以了。反正只要跟着cdc走就不要负任何责任。
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cistim
但是也就是限制travel,不去人多的地方。很多公司已经开始ban international travel and limit domestic travel了。也没说停工停学。就是要大家注意。
GaAs 发表于 3/4/2020 7:41:51 PM

一步一步升级。
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cqcq
洗手唱生日歌好可爱哈哈哈
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lyalexmm
哈哈,很棒的医生,估计现在去医院的人也少了吧,有时间写文啦
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ocyoyo
洗手唱生日歌好可爱哈哈哈
cqcq 发表于 3/4/2020 7:43:31 PM

因为是儿医嘛。不过我学到了,一会儿小朋友回家洗手时要求他唱。
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simbelmyne
这个医生写的真好,不过普通外科口罩那意思是说健康人戴了可能没法挡住飞沫,我觉得出门有口罩还是戴着吧,避免摸脸。。 当医生真不容易,既要学好医学知识,又要擅长和大众沟通
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lunaeve
mark一下,负责的儿医
庚子
回复 1楼ocyoyo的帖子 写得不错。现在的downplay的氛围太严重。不过其实Trump和国会心知肚明,不然怎么又是组队又是拨款的。Trump跟医药界代表会面,虽然继续展现他基本医药知识0的事实(大家都知道),他还是很着急的,恨不得什么药物疫苗立刻生效。口号要喊,人心要安定,大选要搞。反正最后没办法就靠天了。希望撑到4月天气变热病毒暂时消散吧。
小喵喵
点赞👍 谢谢分享
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kriscryst
这个医生真负责,谢谢楼主分享
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blackpearliu
Great! Mark
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AaaaMei
Mark,,.........
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Zenny2010

As Chief Medical Officer I am asked daily about advice to Caduceus patients about the Coronavirus; now called Covid-19. Wanting to keep the advice timely and factual, it is very difficult to separate the facts from hysteria. But someone has to do it, so here are the recommendations for Caduceus patients from the CMO. First realize there are FOUR different bugs going around now plus the threat of Covid. Let's look at each... 1. A bacterial infection is currently on the rise-sore throat, productive cough, fever, maybe sinus symptoms. If you are fit and healthy, it may wear itself out in 3-5 days. If you are very young or very old, frail, or sickly, it may lead to pneumonia or sepsis. An antibiotic is effective, and we may be able to swab for it, or do a blood test or xray to make an accurate diagnosis. 2. A viral syndrome with low grade fever, sneezing, cough, can be difficult to differentiate from a bacterial one at first. Even an experienced provider may need testing to tell the difference. It is usually less serious and runs its course over 2-3 days. Antibiotics do not work for a typical virus. We are seeing a fair number of these cases now, on par with this time of year. 3. NEITHER of these are the "flu". Influenza is a totally separate animal. High fevers, aches, abdominal distress, dry cough, and feeling like you've been run over by a truck are common symptoms. It can be diagnosed via a swab in the office. There are special influenza antibiotics (eg Tamiflu) that help reduce the symptoms and duration. The "Flu" seems to have peaked and even gone in Orange County for 2020. In my personal practice we haven't had a positive case since Feb 15th. The Health Department confirms we should see very few new flu cases in March. 4. Covid-19 begins as a typical viral illness- sneezing, coughing, low grade fever. But there are serious differences. Fortunately, we have not had a lot of cases in Southern California--at least not officially diagnosed. But the virus can be spread for two weeks before symptoms appear. In that time, hundreds of people have been put at risk. It is spread by droplets, so simply being near an infected person can spread it if they cough or sneeze. And the 88,000 cases (as of this writing) is misleading since those are CONFIRMED cases. At least 10 times that number have occurred but just not tested for. There is hope that as a cold weather bug, it will fade away with warmer weather. Yet it is still growing at over 1,000 cases a day being reported world wide; the same number as late January when it first appeared. If more kits were available, you can estimate how many new cases are actually occurring. To hear an official say "we have this under control" is irresponsible. To hear people on social media say "There were more flu deaths, life goes on" is just idiotic. For one thing, the flu deaths were over an entire season. This pandemic has just begun.For another, would these same people take a vacation to beautiful downtown Baghdad? Stroll thru the streets of Sinaloa Mexico? Of course not because we know that is dangerous. Covid 19 should also be considered dangerous. What is the difference between an epidemic and a pandemic? An epidemic refers to a condition spreading rapidly. A pandemic is an epidemic spreading throughout the world. We are now in a pandemic. The flu was not a pandemic. As CMO, I am advising the following measures for our patients at least thru March: 1.If you are sick, don't travel. In fact don't leave the house if possible. Of course this is always common sense. But now you run the risk of being quarantined if it is considered possible you harbor Covid 19. Many countries are screening passengers for even low grade fever. Flight attendants are instructed to report anyone they feel is showing signs of infection. If you have a fever you will be detained. and not just sent home, but put in isolation. 2. If you are not sick, but very young, very old, frail, or sickly avoid ALL non-essential travel, or areas where crowds circulate. That means malls, theme parks, churches, even ball games. Going to a school or office may only expose you to dozens of close contacts. But a crowded day at Disney will expose you to THOUSANDS of people who may be incubating Covid. If you are fit and relatively healthy, use common sense. Avoiding crowds and non essential travel may seem like overkill but it isn't just about protecting you- its keeping an unknowing carrier from spreading the virus to thousands of uninfected people. We do not advise staying home from work or school, but if you can cancel that trip to Europe or postpone the day to Universal Studios, it will go a long way to stopping the spread and protecting yourself and your family. 3. If you do travel in March, realize there is a high chance of disrupted travel. You may be not allowed to leave your area or be house confined. Bring your own thermometer, your own cold meds, and an extra supply of your prescription meds in case you are stuck somewhere for weeks. Have documentation of your health insurance with you. Realize you may find tourist venues closed, events canceled, and long lines at areas where screening is going on. 4. Common sense dictates frequent hand washing. Remember the rule is to wash singing "Happy Birthday" to allow enough time to wash. If you are using hand sanitizers like Purell, five seconds is sufficient. Avoid touching other people if possible, maybe a thumbs up instead of shaking hands. Prepare your own meals as much as possible. If you must cough or sneeze in public, cover the face or turn away. Normal face masks are insufficient to block Covid--you'll need to look for N 95 masks. But if your coughing enough to need the mask --STAY HOME! If you are wearing the mask to protect yourself its probably not necessary if you are fit and healthy. 5. If you feel you may have one of those three conditions at the beginning of this blog, DO NOT ignore it. Use Mouse Calls or video visits to talk to your provider. If you feel you must come to the office, alert us so we can swab you or draw your blood in the comfort of your car. If you need to be seen in an exam room, you will be escorted thru the lobby if you alert us in advance. ALL respiratory type infections should be seen and worked up during this crucial time. Covid testing is done at the health dept. IF World wide screening is effective IF everyone follows these FIVE simple rules IF Covid is a cold weather bug only The pandemic will be history. Otherwise we may witness a pandemic unseen in our lifetimes. Gregg DeNicola MD
Chief Medical Officer
ocyoyo 发表于 3/4/2020 7:26:41 PM
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oqo
这个医生写的真好,不过普通外科口罩那意思是说健康人戴了可能没法挡住飞沫,我觉得出门有口罩还是戴着吧,避免摸脸。。 当医生真不容易,既要学好医学知识,又要擅长和大众沟通
simbelmyne 发表于 3/4/2020 7:45:57 PM

嗯,我也不是很同意这点 戴口罩肯定比不戴强 If you are wearing the mask to protect yourself its probably not necessary if you are fit and healthy.
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longtai
回复 1楼ocyoyo的帖子

写得不错。现在的downplay的氛围太严重。不过其实Trump和国会心知肚明,不然怎么又是组队又是拨款的。Trump跟医药界代表会面,虽然继续展现他基本医药知识0的事实(大家都知道),他还是很着急的,恨不得什么药物疫苗立刻生效。口号要喊,人心要安定,大选要搞。反正最后没办法就靠天了。希望撑到4月天气变热病毒暂时消散吧。
庚子 发表于 3/4/2020 7:50:29 PM


老百姓都信他们的宣传啊,貌似除了咱们华人,其他族裔都佛系反应
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rainbowlamb
Thank you for sharing !!
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noshock
美国美丽的海滩城市Laguna Beach 的医生所写,值得赞扬。
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minijing
谢谢分享
冷月凝香
写得蛮好的,通俗易懂,除了口罩那块不怎么同意他的看法。
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ruo_hu


嗯,我也不是很同意这点
戴口罩肯定比不戴强
If you are wearing the mask to protect yourself its probably not necessary if you are fit and healthy.

oqo 发表于 3/4/2020 7:56:16 PM


That’s not true. If you don’t practice strict hand hygiene, wearing a mask is harmful and helps spreading the virus.
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express77
Mark
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ChristinaW
写得蛮好的,通俗易懂,除了口罩那块不怎么同意他的看法。
冷月凝香 发表于 3/4/2020 8:03:30 PM


我的看法正相反。
专业领域要听专家的,就怕专家不说实话。
口罩问题上,怕的就是种种原因,专家不肯说实话。
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ruo_hu
写得蛮好的,通俗易懂,除了口罩那块不怎么同意他的看法。
冷月凝香 发表于 3/4/2020 8:03:30 PM


因为“普通人带口罩没用”这种说法breaks华人大妈的sense of security。当然不受欢迎。
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Noidle
写得真好👍
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currycat
写得太好了 所以cdc的人到底是什么货色
乌拉啦啦氏
Mark一下回家看
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thinredline
作为首席医疗官,我每天被问到关于杖形病毒患者有关冠状病毒的建议。现在称为Covid-19。想要保持建议的及时性和事实性,很难将事实与歇斯底里分开。但是必须有人这样做,因此这里是CMO针对手杖患者的建议。 首先要意识到,现在有四个不同的错误正在发生,加上Covid的威胁。让我们看看每个... 1.细菌感染目前在咽喉肿痛,生产性咳嗽,发烧,也许是鼻窦症状。如果您健康又健康,它可能会在3-5天内耗尽。如果您很小或很老,身体虚弱或生病,则可能导致肺炎或败血症。抗生素是有效的,我们也许可以拭拭,或者进行血液检查或X线检查以做出准确的诊断。 2.初起时很难与低度发热,打喷嚏,咳嗽的病毒综合症区别于细菌性综合症。即使是经验丰富的提供者,也可能需要进行测试以区分差异。它通常不那么严重,并且会持续2-3天。抗生素不适用于典型的病毒。现在,与每年的这个时候相比,我们看到的此类案件数量相当可观。 3.这些都不是“流感”。流感是完全独立的动物。常见的症状是发高烧,疼痛,腹部不适,干咳和感觉自己被卡车碾过。可以通过办公室的棉签来诊断。有特殊的流感抗生素(例如达菲)可帮助减轻症状和减少病程。 “流感”似乎已经在2020年达到顶峰,甚至在奥兰治县消失了。按照我的个人经验,自2月15日以来我们没有收到过积极的案例。卫生部门证实,我们应该在三月份看到很少的新流感病例。 4. Covid-19开始于典型的病毒性疾病-打喷嚏,咳嗽,低烧。但是有严重的分歧。 幸运的是,我们在南加州没有很多病例-至少没有得到官方诊断。但是这种病毒可以在症状出现之前传播两个星期。那时,数百人处于危险之中。它是通过飞沫传播的,因此只要靠近感染者,只要咳嗽或打喷嚏就可以传播。 88,000个案例(在撰写本文时)具有误导性,因为它们是确认案例。至少有10倍于该数字,但尚未经过测试。 希望作为寒冷天气的虫子,随着天气变暖而逐渐消失。然而,全世界每天仍以每天超过1,000例的速度增长。与1月下旬首次出现时的数字相同。如果有更多工具包,您可以估计实际发生了多少新病例。 听到官员说“我们对此有控制”是不负责任的。在社交媒体上听到人们说“流感死亡人数增加,生活继续下去”只是白痴。一方面,流感的死亡是整个季节的。这种流行病才刚刚开始,另外,这些人还会去美丽的巴格达市中心度假吗?漫步在墨西哥锡那罗亚州的街道上?当然不是因为我们知道那很危险。 Covid 19也应视为危险的。 流行病和大流行病有什么区别?流行病是指迅速蔓延的疾病。大流行是一种遍布世界的流行病。我们现在处于大流行中。流感不是大流行病。 作为首席营销官,我建议至少在三月之前为我们的患者采取以下措施: 1.如果您生病了,请不要旅行。实际上,如果可能,不要离开屋子。当然,这始终是常识。但是现在,如果您认为有可能携带Covid 19,就冒着被隔离的危险。许多国家甚至在检查旅客是否患有低度发烧。指示空乘人员举报任何感觉受到感染的迹象。如果发烧,您将被拘留。并不仅被送回家,而且被隔离。 2.如果您没有生病,但是非常年幼,年老,体弱或生病,请避免进行所有不必要的旅行,或避免人群拥挤。这意味着购物中心,主题公园,教堂,甚至还有球类运动。去学校或办公室可能只会使您与数十个密友接触。但是在迪斯尼的繁忙的一天会让您接触到成千上万可能孵化Covid的人。 如果您身体健康且相对健康,请使用常识。避开人群和不必要的旅行可能看起来像是过大的杀伤力,但这不仅仅在于保护您-防止不知情的载体将病毒传播给成千上万未感染的人。我们不建议您下班或放学回家,但是如果您可以取消前往欧洲的旅行或推迟到环球影城的旅行,那将在阻止病毒扩散和保护自己以及家人方面大有帮助。3.如果您三月份旅行,请意识到旅行受到干扰的可能性很高。您可能不被允许离开您的区域或被限制在家中。带上自己的温度计,自己的感冒药和额外的处方药,以防您被困在某处数周之久。随身携带健康保险文件。请注意,您可能会发现旅游场所关闭,活动取消以及正在进行放映的区域排长队。 4.常识要求经常洗手。请记住,洗歌的规则是唱歌“生日快乐”,以便有足够的时间去洗。如果您正在使用Purell之类的洗手液,那么五秒钟就足够了。尽可能避免触摸他人,也许要竖起大拇指,而不要握手。尽可能自己准备饭菜。如果您必须在公共场合咳嗽或打喷嚏,请遮盖脸部或转身离开。普通的口罩不足以阻挡Covid-您需要寻找N 95个口罩。但是,如果您的咳嗽足以需要口罩,请回家!如果您戴着口罩来保护自己,那么如果您健康又健康,则可能没有必要。 5.如果您认为您在本博客开始时可能具有这三个条件之一,请不要忽略它。使用鼠标通话或视频访问与您的提供者交谈。如果您觉得必须去办公室,请通知我们,以便我们擦拭您的血液或在您舒适的汽车中抽血。如果您需要在检查室中出现,请提前提醒我们,我们将陪同您进入大厅。在此关键时期内,应观察并处理所有呼吸道感染。 Covid测试在健康部门完成。 IF全球筛选有效 如果每个人都遵循这五个简单规则 如果Covid仅是寒冷天气的虫子 大流行将成为历史。否则,我们可能会目睹一生中未曾见过的大流行病。 格雷格·德尼科拉(MD) 首席医疗官
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shamatown
回复 1楼ocyoyo的帖子 像这么明白的人真的少见!好文章
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alpha101
确实写得挺好的,结尾还有股淡淡地无可奈何感
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lookupon
负责任的儿医,写得清晰易懂
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congcong8565
I wish cdc has this type of common sense.
candyland 发表于 3/4/2020 7:33:50 PM


cdc,美国政府,中国政府,任何政权都在motality和经济政治稳定以及cost之间找balance. 然而医生们不用。
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utk
顶了慢慢看
As Chief Medical Officer I am asked daily about advice to Caduceus patients about the Coronavirus; now called Covid-19.  Wanting to keep the advice timely and factual, it is very difficult to separate the facts from hysteria. But someone has to do it, so here are the recommendations for Caduceus patients from the CMO. First realize there are FOUR different bugs going around now plus the threat of Covid. Let's look at each... 1. A bacterial infection is currently on the rise-sore throat, productive cough, fever, maybe sinus symptoms. If you are fit and healthy, it may wear itself out in 3-5 days. If you are very young or very old, frail, or sickly, it may lead to pneumonia or sepsis. An antibiotic is effective, and we may be able to swab for it, or do a blood test or xray to make an accurate diagnosis. 2. A viral syndrome with low grade fever, sneezing, cough, can be difficult to differentiate from a bacterial one at first. Even an experienced provider may need testing to tell the difference. It is usually less serious and runs its course over 2-3 days. Antibiotics do not work for a typical virus. We are seeing a fair number of these cases now, on par with this time of year. 3. NEITHER of these are the "flu". Influenza is a totally separate animal. High fevers, aches, abdominal distress, dry cough, and feeling like you've been run over by a truck are common symptoms. It can be diagnosed via a swab in the office. There are special influenza antibiotics (eg Tamiflu) that help reduce the symptoms and duration. The "Flu" seems to have peaked and even gone in Orange County for 2020. In my personal practice we haven't had a positive case since Feb 15th. The Health Department confirms we should see very few new flu cases in March. 4. Covid-19 begins as a typical viral illness- sneezing, coughing, low grade fever. But there are serious differences. Fortunately, we have not had a lot of cases in Southern California--at least not officially diagnosed. But the virus can be spread for two weeks before symptoms appear. In that time, hundreds of people have been put at risk. It is spread by droplets, so simply being near an infected person can spread it if they cough or sneeze. And the 88,000 cases (as of this writing) is misleading since those are CONFIRMED cases. At least 10 times that number have occurred but just not tested for. There is hope that as a cold weather bug, it will fade away with warmer weather. Yet it is still growing at over 1,000 cases a day being reported world wide; the same number as late January when it first appeared.  If more kits were available, you can estimate how many new cases are actually occurring. To hear an official say "we have this under control" is irresponsible. To hear people on social media say "There were more flu deaths, life goes on" is just idiotic. For one thing, the flu deaths were over an entire season. This pandemic has just begun.For another, would these same people take a vacation to beautiful downtown Baghdad? Stroll thru the streets of Sinaloa Mexico? Of course not because we know that is dangerous. Covid 19 should also be considered dangerous. What is the difference between an epidemic and a pandemic? An epidemic refers to a condition spreading rapidly. A pandemic is an epidemic spreading throughout the world. We are now in a pandemic. The flu was not a pandemic. As CMO, I am advising the following measures for our patients at least thru March: 1.If you are sick, don't travel. In fact don't leave the house if possible. Of course this is always common sense. But now you run the risk of being quarantined if it is considered possible you harbor Covid 19. Many countries are screening passengers for even low grade fever. Flight attendants are instructed to report anyone they feel is showing signs of infection. If you have a fever you will be detained. and not just sent home, but put in isolation. 2. If you are not sick, but very young, very old, frail, or sickly avoid ALL non-essential travel, or areas where crowds circulate. That means malls, theme parks, churches, even ball games. Going to a school or office may only expose you to dozens of close contacts. But a crowded day at Disney will expose you to THOUSANDS of people who may be incubating Covid. If you are fit and relatively healthy, use common sense. Avoiding crowds and non essential travel may seem like overkill but it isn't just about protecting you- its keeping an unknowing carrier from spreading the virus to thousands of uninfected people. We do not advise staying home from work or school, but if you can cancel that trip to Europe or postpone the day to Universal Studios, it will go a long way to stopping the spread and protecting yourself and your family. 3. If you do travel in March, realize there is a high chance of disrupted travel. You may be not allowed to leave your area or be house confined. Bring your own thermometer, your own cold meds, and an extra supply of your prescription meds in case you are stuck somewhere for weeks. Have documentation of your health insurance with you. Realize you may find tourist venues closed, events canceled, and long lines at areas where screening is going on. 4. Common sense dictates frequent hand washing. Remember the rule is to wash singing "Happy Birthday" to allow enough time to wash. If you are using hand sanitizers like Purell, five seconds is sufficient. Avoid touching other people if possible, maybe a thumbs up instead of shaking hands. Prepare your own meals as much as possible. If you must cough or sneeze in public, cover the face or turn away. Normal face masks are insufficient to block Covid--you'll need to look for N 95 masks. But if your coughing enough to need the mask --STAY HOME! If you are wearing the mask to protect yourself its probably not necessary if you are fit and healthy. 5. If you feel you may have one of those three conditions at the beginning of this blog, DO NOT ignore it. UseMouse Callsor video visits to talk to your provider. If you feel you must come to the office, alert us so we can swab you or draw your blood in the comfort of your car. If you need to be seen in an exam room, you will be escorted thru the lobby if you alert us in advance. ALL respiratory type infections should be seen and worked up during this crucial time. Covid testing is done at the health dept. IF World wide screening is effective IF everyone follows these FIVE simple rules IF Covid is a cold weather bug only The pandemic will be history. Otherwise we may witness a pandemic unseen in our lifetimes. Gregg DeNicola MD Chief Medical Officer ocyoyo 发表于 3/4/2020 7:26:00 PM
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cindybb
是不是应该分享到next door,Twitter,FB上? 单是我们华人干着急不够啊!
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betterme
需要多一些这样的医生出来给大家普及
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ChristinaW
我记得其他科普文章上不是说,新冠患者不打喷嚏的么?
胡桃小丸子
看完了,感觉应该再补一句在外不要用手摸脸/嘴/鼻子/眼睛。
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Xiaoxiaohai
请问楼主家儿医坐标在哪儿?楼主家儿医授权让大家随便转他这篇文章了吗?
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SmileOrange
文青儿医,文笔不错
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tigerpi314
挡掉一半也是有效啊,流感疫苗有效率也就百分之六七十算不错了
这个医生写的真好,不过普通外科口罩那意思是说健康人戴了可能没法挡住飞沫,我觉得出门有口罩还是戴着吧,避免摸脸。。 当医生真不容易,既要学好医学知识,又要擅长和大众沟通 simbelmyne 发表于 3/4/2020 7:45:00 PM
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silviazsm
谢谢楼主分享,转给家人看了
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Threepeople
谢谢分享
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nevercare
To hear an official say "we have this under control" is irresponsible. To hear people on social media say "There were more flu deaths, life goes on" is just idiotic. For one thing, the flu deaths were over an entire season. This pandemic has just begun.For another, would these same people take a vacation to beautiful downtown Baghdad? Stroll thru the streets of Sinaloa Mexico? Of course not because we know that is dangerous. Covid 19 should also be considered dangerous. 这是多么没有逻辑的一段话啊
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joylee
真是一篇非常非常好的文章,谢谢分享。
馒头妹妹

As Chief Medical Officer I am asked daily about advice to Caduceus patients about the Coronavirus; now called Covid-19. Wanting to keep the advice timely and factual, it is very difficult to separate the facts from hysteria. But someone has to do it, so here are the recommendations for Caduceus patients from the CMO. First realize there are FOUR different bugs going around now plus the threat of Covid. Let's look at each... 1. A bacterial infection is currently on the rise-sore throat, productive cough, fever, maybe sinus symptoms. If you are fit and healthy, it may wear itself out in 3-5 days. If you are very young or very old, frail, or sickly, it may lead to pneumonia or sepsis. An antibiotic is effective, and we may be able to swab for it, or do a blood test or xray to make an accurate diagnosis. 2. A viral syndrome with low grade fever, sneezing, cough, can be difficult to differentiate from a bacterial one at first. Even an experienced provider may need testing to tell the difference. It is usually less serious and runs its course over 2-3 days. Antibiotics do not work for a typical virus. We are seeing a fair number of these cases now, on par with this time of year. 3. NEITHER of these are the "flu". Influenza is a totally separate animal. High fevers, aches, abdominal distress, dry cough, and feeling like you've been run over by a truck are common symptoms. It can be diagnosed via a swab in the office. There are special influenza antibiotics (eg Tamiflu) that help reduce the symptoms and duration. The "Flu" seems to have peaked and even gone in Orange County for 2020. In my personal practice we haven't had a positive case since Feb 15th. The Health Department confirms we should see very few new flu cases in March. 4. Covid-19 begins as a typical viral illness- sneezing, coughing, low grade fever. But there are serious differences. Fortunately, we have not had a lot of cases in Southern California--at least not officially diagnosed. But the virus can be spread for two weeks before symptoms appear. In that time, hundreds of people have been put at risk. It is spread by droplets, so simply being near an infected person can spread it if they cough or sneeze. And the 88,000 cases (as of this writing) is misleading since those are CONFIRMED cases. At least 10 times that number have occurred but just not tested for. There is hope that as a cold weather bug, it will fade away with warmer weather. Yet it is still growing at over 1,000 cases a day being reported world wide; the same number as late January when it first appeared. If more kits were available, you can estimate how many new cases are actually occurring. To hear an official say "we have this under control" is irresponsible. To hear people on social media say "There were more flu deaths, life goes on" is just idiotic. For one thing, the flu deaths were over an entire season. This pandemic has just begun.For another, would these same people take a vacation to beautiful downtown Baghdad? Stroll thru the streets of Sinaloa Mexico? Of course not because we know that is dangerous. Covid 19 should also be considered dangerous. What is the difference between an epidemic and a pandemic? An epidemic refers to a condition spreading rapidly. A pandemic is an epidemic spreading throughout the world. We are now in a pandemic. The flu was not a pandemic. As CMO, I am advising the following measures for our patients at least thru March: 1.If you are sick, don't travel. In fact don't leave the house if possible. Of course this is always common sense. But now you run the risk of being quarantined if it is considered possible you harbor Covid 19. Many countries are screening passengers for even low grade fever. Flight attendants are instructed to report anyone they feel is showing signs of infection. If you have a fever you will be detained. and not just sent home, but put in isolation. 2. If you are not sick, but very young, very old, frail, or sickly avoid ALL non-essential travel, or areas where crowds circulate. That means malls, theme parks, churches, even ball games. Going to a school or office may only expose you to dozens of close contacts. But a crowded day at Disney will expose you to THOUSANDS of people who may be incubating Covid. If you are fit and relatively healthy, use common sense. Avoiding crowds and non essential travel may seem like overkill but it isn't just about protecting you- its keeping an unknowing carrier from spreading the virus to thousands of uninfected people. We do not advise staying home from work or school, but if you can cancel that trip to Europe or postpone the day to Universal Studios, it will go a long way to stopping the spread and protecting yourself and your family. 3. If you do travel in March, realize there is a high chance of disrupted travel. You may be not allowed to leave your area or be house confined. Bring your own thermometer, your own cold meds, and an extra supply of your prescription meds in case you are stuck somewhere for weeks. Have documentation of your health insurance with you. Realize you may find tourist venues closed, events canceled, and long lines at areas where screening is going on. 4. Common sense dictates frequent hand washing. Remember the rule is to wash singing "Happy Birthday" to allow enough time to wash. If you are using hand sanitizers like Purell, five seconds is sufficient. Avoid touching other people if possible, maybe a thumbs up instead of shaking hands. Prepare your own meals as much as possible. If you must cough or sneeze in public, cover the face or turn away. Normal face masks are insufficient to block Covid--you'll need to look for N 95 masks. But if your coughing enough to need the mask --STAY HOME! If you are wearing the mask to protect yourself its probably not necessary if you are fit and healthy. 5. If you feel you may have one of those three conditions at the beginning of this blog, DO NOT ignore it. Use Mouse Calls or video visits to talk to your provider. If you feel you must come to the office, alert us so we can swab you or draw your blood in the comfort of your car. If you need to be seen in an exam room, you will be escorted thru the lobby if you alert us in advance. ALL respiratory type infections should be seen and worked up during this crucial time. Covid testing is done at the health dept. IF World wide screening is effective IF everyone follows these FIVE simple rules IF Covid is a cold weather bug only The pandemic will be history. Otherwise we may witness a pandemic unseen in our lifetimes. Gregg DeNicola MD
Chief Medical Officer
ocyoyo 发表于 3/4/2020 7:26:41 PM


谢谢分享
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这个儿医太好了!一定要mark! As Chief Medical Officer I am asked daily about advice to Caduceus patients about the Coronavirus; now called Covid-19.  Wanting to keep the advice timely and factual, it is very difficult to separate the facts from hysteria. But someone has to do it, so here are the recommendations for Caduceus patients from the CMO. First realize there are FOUR different bugs going around now plus the threat of Covid. Let's look at each... 1. A bacterial infection is currently on the rise-sore throat, productive cough, fever, maybe sinus symptoms. If you are fit and healthy, it may wear itself out in 3-5 days. If you are very young or very old, frail, or sickly, it may lead to pneumonia or sepsis. An antibiotic is effective, and we may be able to swab for it, or do a blood test or xray to make an accurate diagnosis. 2. A viral syndrome with low grade fever, sneezing, cough, can be difficult to differentiate from a bacterial one at first. Even an experienced provider may need testing to tell the difference. It is usually less serious and runs its course over 2-3 days. Antibiotics do not work for a typical virus. We are seeing a fair number of these cases now, on par with this time of year. 3. NEITHER of these are the "flu". Influenza is a totally separate animal. High fevers, aches, abdominal distress, dry cough, and feeling like you've been run over by a truck are common symptoms. It can be diagnosed via a swab in the office. There are special influenza antibiotics (eg Tamiflu) that help reduce the symptoms and duration. The "Flu" seems to have peaked and even gone in Orange County for 2020. In my personal practice we haven't had a positive case since Feb 15th. The Health Department confirms we should see very few new flu cases in March. 4. Covid-19 begins as a typical viral illness- sneezing, coughing, low grade fever. But there are serious differences. Fortunately, we have not had a lot of cases in Southern California--at least not officially diagnosed. But the virus can be spread for two weeks before symptoms appear. In that time, hundreds of people have been put at risk. It is spread by droplets, so simply being near an infected person can spread it if they cough or sneeze. And the 88,000 cases (as of this writing) is misleading since those are CONFIRMED cases. At least 10 times that number have occurred but just not tested for. There is hope that as a cold weather bug, it will fade away with warmer weather. Yet it is still growing at over 1,000 cases a day being reported world wide; the same number as late January when it first appeared.  If more kits were available, you can estimate how many new cases are actually occurring. To hear an official say "we have this under control" is irresponsible. To hear people on social media say "There were more flu deaths, life goes on" is just idiotic. For one thing, the flu deaths were over an entire season. This pandemic has just begun.For another, would these same people take a vacation to beautiful downtown Baghdad? Stroll thru the streets of Sinaloa Mexico? Of course not because we know that is dangerous. Covid 19 should also be considered dangerous. What is the difference between an epidemic and a pandemic? An epidemic refers to a condition spreading rapidly. A pandemic is an epidemic spreading throughout the world. We are now in a pandemic. The flu was not a pandemic. As CMO, I am advising the following measures for our patients at least thru March: 1.If you are sick, don't travel. In fact don't leave the house if possible. Of course this is always common sense. But now you run the risk of being quarantined if it is considered possible you harbor Covid 19. Many countries are screening passengers for even low grade fever. Flight attendants are instructed to report anyone they feel is showing signs of infection. If you have a fever you will be detained. and not just sent home, but put in isolation. 2. If you are not sick, but very young, very old, frail, or sickly avoid ALL non-essential travel, or areas where crowds circulate. That means malls, theme parks, churches, even ball games. Going to a school or office may only expose you to dozens of close contacts. But a crowded day at Disney will expose you to THOUSANDS of people who may be incubating Covid. If you are fit and relatively healthy, use common sense. Avoiding crowds and non essential travel may seem like overkill but it isn't just about protecting you- its keeping an unknowing carrier from spreading the virus to thousands of uninfected people. We do not advise staying home from work or school, but if you can cancel that trip to Europe or postpone the day to Universal Studios, it will go a long way to stopping the spread and protecting yourself and your family. 3. If you do travel in March, realize there is a high chance of disrupted travel. You may be not allowed to leave your area or be house confined. Bring your own thermometer, your own cold meds, and an extra supply of your prescription meds in case you are stuck somewhere for weeks. Have documentation of your health insurance with you. Realize you may find tourist venues closed, events canceled, and long lines at areas where screening is going on. 4. Common sense dictates frequent hand washing. Remember the rule is to wash singing "Happy Birthday" to allow enough time to wash. If you are using hand sanitizers like Purell, five seconds is sufficient. Avoid touching other people if possible, maybe a thumbs up instead of shaking hands. Prepare your own meals as much as possible. If you must cough or sneeze in public, cover the face or turn away. Normal face masks are insufficient to block Covid--you'll need to look for N 95 masks. But if your coughing enough to need the mask --STAY HOME! If you are wearing the mask to protect yourself its probably not necessary if you are fit and healthy. 5. If you feel you may have one of those three conditions at the beginning of this blog, DO NOT ignore it. UseMouse Callsor video visits to talk to your provider. If you feel you must come to the office, alert us so we can swab you or draw your blood in the comfort of your car. If you need to be seen in an exam room, you will be escorted thru the lobby if you alert us in advance. ALL respiratory type infections should be seen and worked up during this crucial time. Covid testing is done at the health dept. IF World wide screening is effective IF everyone follows these FIVE simple rules IF Covid is a cold weather bug only The pandemic will be history. Otherwise we may witness a pandemic unseen in our lifetimes. Gregg DeNicola MD Chief Medical Officer
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写的很靠谱! As Chief Medical Officer I am asked daily about advice to Caduceus patients about the Coronavirus; now called Covid-19.  Wanting to keep the advice timely and factual, it is very difficult to separate the facts from hysteria. But someone has to do it, so here are the recommendations for Caduceus patients from the CMO. First realize there are FOUR different bugs going around now plus the threat of Covid. Let's look at each... 1. A bacterial infection is currently on the rise-sore throat, productive cough, fever, maybe sinus symptoms. If you are fit and healthy, it may wear itself out in 3-5 days. If you are very young or very old, frail, or sickly, it may lead to pneumonia or sepsis. An antibiotic is effective, and we may be able to swab for it, or do a blood test or xray to make an accurate diagnosis. 2. A viral syndrome with low grade fever, sneezing, cough, can be difficult to differentiate from a bacterial one at first. Even an experienced provider may need testing to tell the difference. It is usually less serious and runs its course over 2-3 days. Antibiotics do not work for a typical virus. We are seeing a fair number of these cases now, on par with this time of year. 3. NEITHER of these are the "flu". Influenza is a totally separate animal. High fevers, aches, abdominal distress, dry cough, and feeling like you've been run over by a truck are common symptoms. It can be diagnosed via a swab in the office. There are special influenza antibiotics (eg Tamiflu) that help reduce the symptoms and duration. The "Flu" seems to have peaked and even gone in Orange County for 2020. In my personal practice we haven't had a positive case since Feb 15th. The Health Department confirms we should see very few new flu cases in March. 4. Covid-19 begins as a typical viral illness- sneezing, coughing, low grade fever. But there are serious differences. Fortunately, we have not had a lot of cases in Southern California--at least not officially diagnosed. But the virus can be spread for two weeks before symptoms appear. In that time, hundreds of people have been put at risk. It is spread by droplets, so simply being near an infected person can spread it if they cough or sneeze. And the 88,000 cases (as of this writing) is misleading since those are CONFIRMED cases. At least 10 times that number have occurred but just not tested for. There is hope that as a cold weather bug, it will fade away with warmer weather. Yet it is still growing at over 1,000 cases a day being reported world wide; the same number as late January when it first appeared.  If more kits were available, you can estimate how many new cases are actually occurring. To hear an official say "we have this under control" is irresponsible. To hear people on social media say "There were more flu deaths, life goes on" is just idiotic. For one thing, the flu deaths were over an entire season. This pandemic has just begun.For another, would these same people take a vacation to beautiful downtown Baghdad? Stroll thru the streets of Sinaloa Mexico? Of course not because we know that is dangerous. Covid 19 should also be considered dangerous. What is the difference between an epidemic and a pandemic? An epidemic refers to a condition spreading rapidly. A pandemic is an epidemic spreading throughout the world. We are now in a pandemic. The flu was not a pandemic. As CMO, I am advising the following measures for our patients at least thru March: 1.If you are sick, don't travel. In fact don't leave the house if possible. Of course this is always common sense. But now you run the risk of being quarantined if it is considered possible you harbor Covid 19. Many countries are screening passengers for even low grade fever. Flight attendants are instructed to report anyone they feel is showing signs of infection. If you have a fever you will be detained. and not just sent home, but put in isolation. 2. If you are not sick, but very young, very old, frail, or sickly avoid ALL non-essential travel, or areas where crowds circulate. That means malls, theme parks, churches, even ball games. Going to a school or office may only expose you to dozens of close contacts. But a crowded day at Disney will expose you to THOUSANDS of people who may be incubating Covid. If you are fit and relatively healthy, use common sense. Avoiding crowds and non essential travel may seem like overkill but it isn't just about protecting you- its keeping an unknowing carrier from spreading the virus to thousands of uninfected people. We do not advise staying home from work or school, but if you can cancel that trip to Europe or postpone the day to Universal Studios, it will go a long way to stopping the spread and protecting yourself and your family. 3. If you do travel in March, realize there is a high chance of disrupted travel. You may be not allowed to leave your area or be house confined. Bring your own thermometer, your own cold meds, and an extra supply of your prescription meds in case you are stuck somewhere for weeks. Have documentation of your health insurance with you. Realize you may find tourist venues closed, events canceled, and long lines at areas where screening is going on. 4. Common sense dictates frequent hand washing. Remember the rule is to wash singing "Happy Birthday" to allow enough time to wash. If you are using hand sanitizers like Purell, five seconds is sufficient. Avoid touching other people if possible, maybe a thumbs up instead of shaking hands. Prepare your own meals as much as possible. If you must cough or sneeze in public, cover the face or turn away. Normal face masks are insufficient to block Covid--you'll need to look for N 95 masks. But if your coughing enough to need the mask --STAY HOME! If you are wearing the mask to protect yourself its probably not necessary if you are fit and healthy. 5. If you feel you may have one of those three conditions at the beginning of this blog, DO NOT ignore it. UseMouse Callsor video visits to talk to your provider. If you feel you must come to the office, alert us so we can swab you or draw your blood in the comfort of your car. If you need to be seen in an exam room, you will be escorted thru the lobby if you alert us in advance. ALL respiratory type infections should be seen and worked up during this crucial time. Covid testing is done at the health dept. IF World wide screening is effective IF everyone follows these FIVE simple rules IF Covid is a cold weather bug only The pandemic will be history. Otherwise we may witness a pandemic unseen in our lifetimes. Gregg DeNicola MD Chief Medical Officer
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请问楼主家儿医坐标在哪儿?楼主家儿医授权让大家随便转他这篇文章了吗?

Xiaoxiaohai 发表于 3/4/2020 9:00:41 PM

坐标南加的orange county。可以转发,不过转到英文平台上时请隐去他的名字和医学group的名字吧!
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kongbua
写到点子上!
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ameliaxue
Thanks for sharing
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maxplus
Thanks for sharing!
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yore101
为什么说没有逻辑?
To hear an official say "we have this under control" is irresponsible. To hear people on social media say "There were more flu deaths, life goes on" is just idiotic. For one thing, the flu deaths were over an entire season. This pandemic has just begun.For another, would these same people take a vacation to beautiful downtown Baghdad? Stroll thru the streets of Sinaloa Mexico? Of course not because we know that is dangerous. Covid 19 should also be considered dangerous. 这是多么没有逻辑的一段话啊 nevercare 发表于 3/4/2020 9:34:00 PM
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Ly77chee
Thanks for sharing
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PinkSwan
Thanks for sharing
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hnlaser
洗手唱生日歌好可爱哈哈哈
cqcq 发表于 3/4/2020 7:43:31 PM

要唱2遍。2个月前在wholefood店里洗手的地方看到的。。。
满天满天星
Thanks for sharing 打算群发公司科普一下
放弃啦不干啦
Thanks for sharing
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meshell
谢谢分享 As Chief Medical Officer I am asked daily about advice to Caduceus patients about the Coronavirus; now called Covid-19.  Wanting to keep the advice timely and factual, it is very difficult to separate the facts from hysteria. But someone has to do it, so here are the recommendations for Caduceus patients from the CMO. First realize there are FOUR different bugs going around now plus the threat of Covid. Let's look at each... 1. A bacterial infection is currently on the rise-sore throat, productive cough, fever, maybe sinus symptoms. If you are fit and healthy, it may wear itself out in 3-5 days. If you are very young or very old, frail, or sickly, it may lead to pneumonia or sepsis. An antibiotic is effective, and we may be able to swab for it, or do a blood test or xray to make an accurate diagnosis. 2. A viral syndrome with low grade fever, sneezing, cough, can be difficult to differentiate from a bacterial one at first. Even an experienced provider may need testing to tell the difference. It is usually less serious and runs its course over 2-3 days. Antibiotics do not work for a typical virus. We are seeing a fair number of these cases now, on par with this time of year. 3. NEITHER of these are the "flu". Influenza is a totally separate animal. High fevers, aches, abdominal distress, dry cough, and feeling like you've been run over by a truck are common symptoms. It can be diagnosed via a swab in the office. There are special influenza antibiotics (eg Tamiflu) that help reduce the symptoms and duration. The "Flu" seems to have peaked and even gone in Orange County for 2020. In my personal practice we haven't had a positive case since Feb 15th. The Health Department confirms we should see very few new flu cases in March. 4. Covid-19 begins as a typical viral illness- sneezing, coughing, low grade fever. But there are serious differences. Fortunately, we have not had a lot of cases in Southern California--at least not officially diagnosed. But the virus can be spread for two weeks before symptoms appear. In that time, hundreds of people have been put at risk. It is spread by droplets, so simply being near an infected person can spread it if they cough or sneeze. And the 88,000 cases (as of this writing) is misleading since those are CONFIRMED cases. At least 10 times that number have occurred but just not tested for. There is hope that as a cold weather bug, it will fade away with warmer weather. Yet it is still growing at over 1,000 cases a day being reported world wide; the same number as late January when it first appeared.  If more kits were available, you can estimate how many new cases are actually occurring. To hear an official say "we have this under control" is irresponsible. To hear people on social media say "There were more flu deaths, life goes on" is just idiotic. For one thing, the flu deaths were over an entire season. This pandemic has just begun.For another, would these same people take a vacation to beautiful downtown Baghdad? Stroll thru the streets of Sinaloa Mexico? Of course not because we know that is dangerous. Covid 19 should also be considered dangerous. What is the difference between an epidemic and a pandemic? An epidemic refers to a condition spreading rapidly. A pandemic is an epidemic spreading throughout the world. We are now in a pandemic. The flu was not a pandemic. As CMO, I am advising the following measures for our patients at least thru March: 1.If you are sick, don't travel. In fact don't leave the house if possible. Of course this is always common sense. But now you run the risk of being quarantined if it is considered possible you harbor Covid 19. Many countries are screening passengers for even low grade fever. Flight attendants are instructed to report anyone they feel is showing signs of infection. If you have a fever you will be detained. and not just sent home, but put in isolation. 2. If you are not sick, but very young, very old, frail, or sickly avoid ALL non-essential travel, or areas where crowds circulate. That means malls, theme parks, churches, even ball games. Going to a school or office may only expose you to dozens of close contacts. But a crowded day at Disney will expose you to THOUSANDS of people who may be incubating Covid. If you are fit and relatively healthy, use common sense. Avoiding crowds and non essential travel may seem like overkill but it isn't just about protecting you- its keeping an unknowing carrier from spreading the virus to thousands of uninfected people. We do not advise staying home from work or school, but if you can cancel that trip to Europe or postpone the day to Universal Studios, it will go a long way to stopping the spread and protecting yourself and your family. 3. If you do travel in March, realize there is a high chance of disrupted travel. You may be not allowed to leave your area or be house confined. Bring your own thermometer, your own cold meds, and an extra supply of your prescription meds in case you are stuck somewhere for weeks. Have documentation of your health insurance with you. Realize you may find tourist venues closed, events canceled, and long lines at areas where screening is going on. 4. Common sense dictates frequent hand washing. Remember the rule is to wash singing "Happy Birthday" to allow enough time to wash. If you are using hand sanitizers like Purell, five seconds is sufficient. Avoid touching other people if possible, maybe a thumbs up instead of shaking hands. Prepare your own meals as much as possible. If you must cough or sneeze in public, cover the face or turn away. Normal face masks are insufficient to block Covid--you'll need to look for N 95 masks. But if your coughing enough to need the mask --STAY HOME! If you are wearing the mask to protect yourself its probably not necessary if you are fit and healthy. 5. If you feel you may have one of those three conditions at the beginning of this blog, DO NOT ignore it. UseMouse Callsor video visits to talk to your provider. If you feel you must come to the office, alert us so we can swab you or draw your blood in the comfort of your car. If you need to be seen in an exam room, you will be escorted thru the lobby if you alert us in advance. ALL respiratory type infections should be seen and worked up during this crucial time. Covid testing is done at the health dept. IF World wide screening is effective IF everyone follows these FIVE simple rules IF Covid is a cold weather bug only The pandemic will be history. Otherwise we may witness a pandemic unseen in our lifetimes. Gregg DeNicola MD Chief Medical Officer 版主更新用户Caffeine家庭医生提供的信息纽约市: - 建议坐地铁带一次性手套 - 那个犹太律师上了ventilator。人本来肥胖,以前得过多次肺炎,所以这次以为也是普通肺炎,去bar mizvah等社区活动打倒一帮人。他状况不是特别好。 - 我医生自己带眼镜,口罩。明天来一个老先生看病,去的那家犹太律师最早去的医院。说该医院全面消毒了。(希望如此)她会带n95. - 病床:bellevue开始加床做准备了 - 药:chloroquine批发商不给零售发了。战略储备中。 - 他们(一个私人practice)尽量不让病人跑er。我和她分享了武汉的一些教训,他们基本都是在避免这些情况。 后两个让我觉得后台他们还是在做准备的。cdc乌龙,希望别的可以补上。
风吹鸡蛋壳
赞👍写得很好
缱绻一生
写得很好 不过flu season还没有结束 今天有一个病人送去ER 诊断Flu 周二有个病人刚刚出院 flu然后肺炎。两个
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hnlaser
写得很好 不过flu season还没有结束 今天有一个病人送去ER 诊断Flu 周二有个病人刚刚出院 flu然后肺炎。两个
缱绻一生 发表于 3/4/2020 11:38:57 PM

那个儿医单说南加
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OatmealNuts
这个医生说得真好。 我宁愿大家都overly cautious,而不是underprepared. 美国很多时候都是overkill, foolproof, 很遗憾这次如此关键的时候掉链子。
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sunrisemichelle
👍👍👍👍👍
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doser
感谢分享👍👍👍
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provencebebe
谢谢楼主分享。很有道理,还把别的感冒也说清楚了
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sparklingwater
很棒
匆太匆
学习了!👍👍👍
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huaren20182018
Mark.........
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foxlian
mark,写的真好
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lilimarah

感觉医生对于现在的宣传口径非常不满。

ocyoyo 发表于 3/4/2020 7:31:31 PM

现在护士都是洗手论,我真是醉了
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luna930
To hear an official say "we have this under control" is irresponsible. To hear people on social media say "There were more flu deaths, life goes on" is just idiotic. For one thing, the flu deaths were over an entire season. This pandemic has just begun.For another, would these same people take a vacation to beautiful downtown Baghdad? Stroll thru the streets of Sinaloa Mexico? Of course not because we know that is dangerous. Covid 19 should also be considered dangerous. 这是多么没有逻辑的一段话啊
nevercare 发表于 3/4/2020 9:34:29 PM
挺好的科普文章,但这段我也是读了好几遍,感觉逻辑怪怪的
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autumn15
Thanks for sharing. Very useful information and recommendations
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hf.w
谢谢
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xiaomaixian
thanks for sharing.
哈根达斯冰淇淋
终于不是洗手包治百病了
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imniz
戴一次性手套那个,我有点不一样的建议。这个实在制造太多垃圾污染环境了,我的做法是戴着它用酒精消毒,然后再次使用。这样既安全又环保也保护手的皮肤。例如昨天我去超市买菜,就戴着手套,买完后用wipe擦手套,车门把,方向盘。。。回家后把所有东西放好,拿wipe把家里摸过的地方擦一遍,再次洗手套,脱下晾干,然后再次洗手。给大家做个参考。
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goggle
Thank you! Mark.
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gaoyouli
写得很好,感觉可以用来给周围还没提高警惕的美国人科普。
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dongdong7
我怎么读着和预防流感的调调一样呢?都是勤洗手 少去人多的地方 病了就在家呆着
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dawoniu
Mark!可以科普用!
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onlyfish
mark 一下,慢慢看。 发给周围的美国人看
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CoolTeeth
你可以把武汉一家家团灭包括孩子的那些新闻照片视频发给老师
回复 4楼Narnia的帖子[/url] 我们学校老师还天天给娃洗脑说小孩不会得。
candyland 发表于 3/4/2020 7:34:32 PM
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flyerr
谢谢分享。q ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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cooper2
谢谢分享!
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zjyzzy
谢谢分享🙏很好👍
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zx1269
问一下,为什么是chloroquine啊,google了一下是个管疟疾的药啊?
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ocyoyo
我怎么读着和预防流感的调调一样呢?都是勤洗手 少去人多的地方 病了就在家呆着
dongdong7 发表于 3/5/2020 9:36:34 AM

每个人能做到这些就好了。
如果每个人都砍掉不必要的出行,勤洗手,不去人多的地方,轻症自觉在家科学地隔离(和家人也得隔离),这个病不会流行得如此猖狂。

可惜这只是理想状态。我对春假结束后的整个美国都持悲观预期。