我在另一个帖子 贴的 今天（周五晚）的新闻 https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/nj-connecticut-prepared-to-start-covid-19-testing-as-nyc-awaits-results-on-resident/2306912/ the state 【NYC】that actually has a patient being looked at for the spreading illness still doesn't have permission from the Centers for Disease Control. In a teleconference, the CDC said the goal is to have testing available in all 50 states by the end of next week. When presses about which states and places have the capacity, the CDC would not give specifics citing the evolving situation.
我在另一个帖子 贴的 今天（周五晚）的新闻 https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/nj-connecticut-prepared-to-start-covid-19-testing-as-nyc-awaits-results-on-resident/2306912/ the state 【NYC】that actually has a patient being looked at for the spreading illness still doesn't have permission from the Centers for Disease Control. In a teleconference, the CDC said the goal is to have testing available in all 50 states by the end of next week. When presses about which states and places have the capacity, the CDC would not give specifics citing the evolving situation. ggtest 发表于 2/29/2020 1:14:34 AM
我在另一个帖子 贴的 今天（周五晚）的新闻 https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/nj-connecticut-prepared-to-start-covid-19-testing-as-nyc-awaits-results-on-resident/2306912/ the state 【NYC】that actually has a patient being looked at for the spreading illness still doesn't have permission from the Centers for Disease Control. In a teleconference, the CDC said the goal is to have testing available in all 50 states by the end of next week. When presses about which states and places have the capacity, the CDC would not give specifics citing the evolving situation. ggtest 发表于 2/29/2020 1:14:34 AM
我在另一个帖子 贴的 今天（周五晚）的新闻 https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/nj-connecticut-prepared-to-start-covid-19-testing-as-nyc-awaits-results-on-resident/2306912/ the state 【NYC】that actually has a patient being looked at for the spreading illness still doesn't have permission from the Centers for Disease Control. In a teleconference, the CDC said the goal is to have testing available in all 50 states by the end of next week. When presses about which states and places have the capacity, the CDC would not give specifics citing the evolving situation. ggtest 发表于 2/29/2020 1:14:34 AM
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/02/united-states-badly-bungled-coronavirus-testing-things-may-soon-improve 这里有详细的解释。简单来说，CDC及FDA不允许有能力的lab或商业机构测 The United States badly bungled coronavirus testing—but things may soon improve By Jon CohenFeb. 28, 2020 , 5:45 PM Speed is critical in the response to COVID-19. So why has the United States been so slow in its attempt to develop reliable diagnostic tests and use them widely? The World Health Organization (WHO) has shipped testing kits to 57 countries. China had five commercial tests on the market 1 month ago and can now do up to 1.6 million tests a week; South Korea has tested 65,000 people so far. The U. S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), in contrast, has done only 459 tests since the epidemic began. The rollout of a CDC-designed test kit to state and local labs has become a fiasco because it contained a faulty reagent. Labs around the country eager to test more suspected cases—and test them faster—have been unable to do so. No commercial or state labs have the approval to use their own tests. In what is already an infamous snafu, CDC initially refused a request to test a patient in Northern California who turned out to be the first probable COVID19 case without known links to an infected person.
回复 22楼zishuixin的帖子 In principle, many hospital and academic labs around the country have the capability to carry out tests themselves. The PCR reaction uses so-called primers, short stretches of DNA, to find viral sequences. The CDC website posts the primers used in its test, and WHO publicly catalogs other primers and protocols, too. Well-equipped state or local labs can use these—or come up with their own—to produce what are known as a “laboratory-developed tests” for in-house use. But at the moment, they’re not allowed to do that without FDA approval. When the United States declared the outbreak a public health emergency on 31 January, a bureaucratic process kicked in that requires FDA’s “emergency use approval” for any tests. “The declaration of a public health emergency did exactly what it shouldn’t have. It limited the diagnostic capacity of this country,” Mina says. “It’s insane.” On 24 February, APHL asked FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn for “enforcement discretion” to sidestep the emergency process and allow APHL members labs to use their own tests. On 26 February, Hahn replied that the CDC test could be modified to use just the primers that specifically detect SARS-CoV-2, essentially ignoring the faulty portion of the kits. FDA, in other words, would look the other way to make more widespread testing possible. CDC has notified labs of FDA’s decision in a letter, but the agency must still file an emergency use authorization with FDA for the protocol change. Once it does, it won’t take long, Hahn promised in his letter to APHL: “FDA has been able to authorize tests for public health emergencies within as little as 1 day upon receipt of the complete validation.” In New York, the State Department of Health has designed its own test based on the CDC protocol and plans to seek emergency use authorization. CDC provided an update about the situation in an email but did not respond to Science’s request for an interview with a scientist to discuss the details of the problem. Mina stresses he has great respect for CDC’s competence overall, but says, “There’s no good explanation for what’s going on here.”
回复 22楼zishuixin的帖子 In principle, many hospital and academic labs around the country have the capability to carry out tests themselves. The PCR reaction uses so-called primers, short stretches of DNA, to find viral sequences. The CDC website posts the primers used in its test, and WHO publicly catalogs other primers and protocols, too. Well-equipped state or local labs can use these—or come up with their own—to produce what are known as a “laboratory-developed tests” for in-house use. But at the moment, they’re not allowed to do that without FDA approval. When the United States declared the outbreak a public health emergency on 31 January, a bureaucratic process kicked in that requires FDA’s “emergency use approval” for any tests. “The declaration of a public health emergency did exactly what it shouldn’t have. It limited the diagnostic capacity of this country,” Mina says. “It’s insane.” On 24 February, APHL asked FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn for “enforcement discretion” to sidestep the emergency process and allow APHL members labs to use their own tests. On 26 February, Hahn replied that the CDC test could be modified to use just the primers that specifically detect SARS-CoV-2, essentially ignoring the faulty portion of the kits. FDA, in other words, would look the other way to make more widespread testing possible. CDC has notified labs of FDA’s decision in a letter, but the agency must still file an emergency use authorization with FDA for the protocol change. Once it does, it won’t take long, Hahn promised in his letter to APHL: “FDA has been able to authorize tests for public health emergencies within as little as 1 day upon receipt of the complete validation.” In New York, the State Department of Health has designed its own test based on the CDC protocol and plans to seek emergency use authorization. CDC provided an update about the situation in an email but did not respond to Science’s request for an interview with a scientist to discuss the details of the problem. Mina stresses he has great respect for CDC’s competence overall, but says, “There’s no good explanation for what’s going on here.” zishuixin 发表于 2/29/2020 9:20:08 AM
回复 22楼zishuixin的帖子 In principle, many hospital and academic labs around the country have the capability to carry out tests themselves. The PCR reaction uses so-called primers, short stretches of DNA, to find viral sequences. The CDC website posts the primers used in its test, and WHO publicly catalogs other primers and protocols, too. Well-equipped state or local labs can use these—or come up with their own—to produce what are known as a “laboratory-developed tests” for in-house use. But at the moment, they’re not allowed to do that without FDA approval. When the United States declared the outbreak a public health emergency on 31 January, a bureaucratic process kicked in that requires FDA’s “emergency use approval” for any tests. “The declaration of a public health emergency did exactly what it shouldn’t have. It limited the diagnostic capacity of this country,” Mina says. “It’s insane.” On 24 February, APHL asked FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn for “enforcement discretion” to sidestep the emergency process and allow APHL members labs to use their own tests. On 26 February, Hahn replied that the CDC test could be modified to use just the primers that specifically detect SARS-CoV-2, essentially ignoring the faulty portion of the kits. FDA, in other words, would look the other way to make more widespread testing possible. CDC has notified labs of FDA’s decision in a letter, but the agency must still file an emergency use authorization with FDA for the protocol change. Once it does, it won’t take long, Hahn promised in his letter to APHL: “FDA has been able to authorize tests for public health emergencies within as little as 1 day upon receipt of the complete validation.” In New York, the State Department of Health has designed its own test based on the CDC protocol and plans to seek emergency use authorization. CDC provided an update about the situation in an email but did not respond to Science’s request for an interview with a scientist to discuss the details of the problem. Mina stresses he has great respect for CDC’s competence overall, but says, “There’s no good explanation for what’s going on here.” zishuixin 发表于 2/29/2020 9:20:08 AM
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re。就是武汉重演。
9494
翻出上个月的留言，真是一言难尽。
真差啊，整个第三世界都不如
🛋️ 沙发板凳
据CNBC新闻网2月21日报道，由于美国疾控中心提供的核酸检测试剂盒出现问题，导致全美目前仅加利福尼亚、内布拉斯加州和伊利诺伊州3个州具备新型冠状病毒检测能力。
就是說紐約還沒讓測。估計一讓測也會爆，紐約沒道理輸給加州
为啥？民主党刀枪不入？
是从意大利回来的
那纽约之前难道从来没给cdc发过疑似吗？一例疑似都没有？难以想象
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/coronavirus.page#cases
不管你信不信，反正我是信了。
还没有。 昨天的新闻是纽约说CDC的试剂盒没法用， 正在自己研发
不如就近送到新州或康州让人家的lab帮测
https://abc7ny.com/5974999/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
这个人从日本回来，有症状就去看医生，医生测了所有别的病毒，流感普通肺炎什么的都是negative，送去cdc被拒绝检测。医生跟他说就当作是感染了新肺，要隔离，给出的病因是”unknown virus”.
cdc的错，也不至于要这么糟蹋亚特兰大吧
希望你这辈子可以保持单纯无邪，岁月静好
是呀，这种事落下纽约那简直是看不起纽约！想想有什么灾难纽约躲过去了？
请问你为啥用那么难看的看起来智商也有问题的人当头像？
我觉得正是因为NY重要，所以他们更想维稳，稳定经济。稳定和经济对他们来说，比普通人的健康更重要， 或者等着有些人做好准备，比如钱都挪到安全的地方，才爆。 我都操心疫情这么下去，经济不好，经济危机了，更惨。 何况那些钱很多的人，更不想有损失。
嗯，确实要看测试数量，而不是确诊数量。 不过南部几个州预估会好些，感觉在热的地方传播速度低一些。 阴冷的地方传播速度快些。 东北几个州担心啊。
现在要把能够测出阳性患者视为一种能力，测出来了就能有反应和作为。不测或者测不出来的将会有大麻烦了
明明是自嘲我他妈的也住纽约好么？你真弱智是不是？
因为你还没死呀，你全家不死光了烂成渣子投生成畜生怎么会轮到我？还有，这头像真是太难看了，一看就是弱智加侏儒，赶紧换一个吧
怎么又吵架啊……我看帖一般看完第一页就直接切到最后一页看看有没有反转，看骂架真影响心情🤮
我估计有，但是不多。如果真有很多会传出来的
twitter上有人说是纽约民主党故意隐瞒，想最后憋个大爆发让川普难看。
cdc这是坐等病毒传的更多些吗？
看看身边就知道了，如果大爆发了就会有认识的人染上。华人网这么多人都没有人出来说谁染上了，没有就是没有。零星的例子可能是有的
就三个州可以测，其他人前天cdc说等到插管考虑测。当然没有了
我只是说纽约没有大爆发，爆发了瞒不住的
医生会有感觉，这个病毒传染速度非常快，最先传染的是医护人员，医院不可能捂住的。纽约附近几十万华人是有的，一例都没有。难道纽约有结界，还是纽约太脏了，以毒攻毒。
这阴谋论也太过火了。明明是CDC不给测，说是没有接触史。纽约州长，市长都抨击CDC了，要求让允许本地测。州长甚至直接和Pence说了。老川快醒醒吧，别被CDC的官僚给忽悠了，现在谁不骂CDC？他再不管回头能被cdc拉下水。
测了吗？
华盛顿州也有的。昨天发布确诊的都是presumably positive，就是非CDC测的，其实是我们测的。但是真的三周前就该测了。那个人生只会做三个PCR，不停的跟大家说N1，N2，N3，给CDC洗地，还拉上歪哥跟她一起洗的大妈来跟大家说说纽约的情况呗？
这个新闻我也看到了， 在Brooklyn。。。。。不给测完全不能理解
楼上的意思是就算因为不给测才“没有”的，但是身在纽约的人，确实身边同事朋友没有人出现很疑似的症状，高烧不断，难以呼吸之类的，就差测了然后”确诊“的。想象如果武汉一直不给测，能掩盖住”没有“吗？活生生很多人发病阿。所以感觉纽约很奇怪，不测导致的”没有“，居然和真正生活中身边没看到大量疑似或者发病 吻合。。但是群众又不敢相信不采取控制，纽约居然真的没有出现社区爆发。匪夷所思
这个同意。。。。零星的有， 大爆发目前应该还没。 美国现在真的应该考虑禁航日韩意大利了。。。
而且纽约人口密集比武汉都拥挤，脏乱差，地铁上就有人大小便，还有这么多从国内，日韩，意大利的人来来回回的，没有疑似的病症，这简直不可能的事。不知道怎么解释。
28号 cdc telebriefing 试剂盒发给了六个州。今天新闻，纽约自主的test kits 被批准了。还有四十几个州啊 ，愁人。
CDC那些人到底什么背景啊，都这样了，媒体各州民众到处都在批评质疑，他们岿然不动。老床还天天为他们站台，成天满嘴great people did great job，真的要吐了好吗！
每个人的小环境不一样，并不代表没有。版上就有纽约的ID说自己一直有类似症状，却没法测。我们在武汉的分公司，几十号员工，到封城前一天还在跟我说，公司没有一个人在实际生活里认识被确诊的人。我当时听了，还傻乎乎在华人辟谣武汉形势没那么糟呢。
是啊 肯定是维稳，只是当时中国爆疫情的时候，股市居然没有反应，我就觉得很反常，现在肯定没有见底，还会再跌，之前升得太久，只是这么下去，有可能会导致recession。我也担心，普通人在这种灾难前都很渺小，生病惨，没工作更惨
周五送检的那个意大利回来的现在测出来是阴性！
这也太神奇了。虽然迟早肯定会有测出来的，但迄今为止都是阴性也是很惊人了。
你应该是把ID搞混了。我在另一个帖子里解释过N1N2,N3，但是没有和歪哥私信联系过这方面的内容。另一个ID也没有在她的私信里提过CDC的具体检验方法。如果只是解释CDC的检测方法就是洗地，你有坚持你自己观念的自由。另外如果说到clinical molecular testing,山外有山，说话还是不要那么咄咄逼人为好。
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