同事的 email

g
greendeer
楼主 (北美华人网)
同事带领的一个大项目今天做完了,他给几百人的大组发了封信,表示感谢和庆祝,大家觉得这英文怎么样?
As of today, all the applications have completed the migration to the new platform! I would like to thank all the teams for their cooperation and efforts. Without your support and coordination, we wouldn’t be able to reach such a huge milestone!

The architecture team initiated this project three years ago and officially kicked off the migration project in June 2019. Over the past 9 months, fourteen teams were involved, 1 million lines of code were rewritten, Axyz framework was mostly removed from the codebase, 70% of the code was converted to TS, 200 new APIs were created. We removed the strong dependency on third party frameworks, established and enforced coding syntax and conventions, built application lifecycle protocols, standardized logging system, improved existing APIs, and finally made the application a real Single Page Application.

I especially wanted to thank the Architecture team for their hard work, can-do attitude, keen eyes for identifying areas for improvement, and passion for building great products. As you know, the Architecture team is quite a small team with only 4 developers, and 3 of them were hired one month before we kicked off the project. It was amazing that they were able to pick up the knowledge immediately and complete such a challenging cross-team project in such a short term period.

I wanted to thank Matt for being such an amazing team lead for the Architecture team, for coordinating 14 teams successfully, for always addressing questions in a timely manner, and for setting up a great role model for the team. I also wanted to thank Mike for his hard work, top-notch technical skills, and his deep caring for the codebase.

With the new architecture, our system is able to provide improved performance, scalability, more stabilized API, and enhanced developer experience.

Again, thanks to everyone for this big accomplishment! Look forward to working with you all on our next project.
k
kittyspecial
同事带领的一个大项目今天做完了,他给几百人的大组发了封信,表示感谢和庆祝,大家觉得这英文怎么样?
As of today, all the applications have completed the migration to the new platform! I would like to thank all the teams for their cooperation and efforts. Without your support and coordination, we wouldn’t be able to reach such a huge milestone!

The architecture team initiated this project three years ago and officially kicked off the migration project in June 2019. Over the past 9 months, fourteen teams were involved, 1 million lines of code were rewritten, Axyz framework was mostly removed from the codebase, 70% of the code was converted to TS, 200 new APIs were created. We removed the strong dependency on third party frameworks, established and enforced coding syntax and conventions, built application lifecycle protocols, standardized logging system, improved existing APIs, and finally made the application a real Single Page Application.

I especially wanted to thank the Architecture team for their hard work, can-do attitude, keen eyes for identifying areas for improvement, and passion for building great products. As you know, the Architecture team is quite a small team with only 4 developers, and 3 of them were hired one month before we kicked off the project. It was amazing that they were able to pick up the knowledge immediately and complete such a challenging cross-team project in such a short term period.

I wanted to thank Matt for being such an amazing team lead for the Architecture team, for coordinating 14 teams successfully, for always addressing questions in a timely manner, and for setting up a great role model for the team. I also wanted to thank Mike for his hard work, top-notch technical skills, and his deep caring for the codebase.

With the new architecture, our system is able to provide improved performance, scalability, more stabilized API, and enhanced developer experience.

Again, thanks to everyone for this big accomplishment! Look forward to working with you all on our next project.

greendeer 发表于 2/28/2020 11:20:34 PM
你贴同事的email 到网上啊 这人上华人吗 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
s
sssccc
不知道楼主想表达啥。能做到这种职位lead大项目不是靠英语好坏决定的吧!
u
uslady
能表达意思就够了
同事带领的一个大项目今天做完了,他给几百人的大组发了封信,表示感谢和庆祝,大家觉得这英文怎么样?
As of today, all the applications have completed the migration to the new platform! I would like to thank all the teams for their cooperation and efforts. Without your support and coordination, we wouldn’t be able to reach such a huge milestone!

The architecture team initiated this project three years ago and officially kicked off the migration project in June 2019. Over the past 9 months, fourteen teams were involved, 1 million lines of code were rewritten, Axyz framework was mostly removed from the codebase, 70% of the code was converted to TS, 200 new APIs were created. We removed the strong dependency on third party frameworks, established and enforced coding syntax and conventions, built application lifecycle protocols, standardized logging system, improved existing APIs, and finally made the application a real Single Page Application.

I especially wanted to thank the Architecture team for their hard work, can-do attitude, keen eyes for identifying areas for improvement, and passion for building great products. As you know, the Architecture team is quite a small team with only 4 developers, and 3 of them were hired one month before we kicked off the project. It was amazing that they were able to pick up the knowledge immediately and complete such a challenging cross-team project in such a short term period.

I wanted to thank Matt for being such an amazing team lead for the Architecture team, for coordinating 14 teams successfully, for always addressing questions in a timely manner, and for setting up a great role model for the team. I also wanted to thank Mike for his hard work, top-notch technical skills, and his deep caring for the codebase.

With the new architecture, our system is able to provide improved performance, scalability, more stabilized API, and enhanced developer experience.

Again, thanks to everyone for this big accomplishment! Look forward to working with you all on our next project.

greendeer 发表于 2/28/2020 11:20:34 PM
s
slurslur
这个英语除了有点拗口,没有什么毛病吧?—- 坐等英文专家意见
s
smile1234
这个英语除了有点拗口,没有什么毛病吧?—- 坐等英文专家意见
slurslur 发表于 2/28/2020 11:59:46 PM

我也这样认为。
l
ljmdtc
贴公司内部邮件?你嫌自己工作太稳定吗?
j
jianzhiqi1234
废话啰嗦,一段能写完的扯这么长。而且这一段也太傻了 “As you know, the Architecture team is quite a small team with only 4 developers, and 3 of them were hired one month before we kicked off the project. It was amazing that they were able to pick up the knowledge immediately and complete such a challenging cross-team project in such a short term period.”
a
azhe
贴公司内部邮件?你嫌自己工作太稳定吗?

Re 楼主赶紧删掉吧
R
RivuletLee
这个互联网公司内部的announcement email还是这个味儿 开头摆数据说成绩 然后列举team内部和兄弟团队的贡献 最后再感谢leadership展望未来 哈哈哈哈 我以前搜集了不少这类邮件学习这方面八股文 不过这技能是再也用不上了 嘿嘿
S
Stella
这英语真的不咋地。第一句话doesn't make any sense. 第二句话sounds really awkward.
m
monofaye
英语不地道,但是敢讲
g
greendeer
这个英语除了有点拗口,没有什么毛病吧?—- 坐等英文专家意见
slurslur 发表于 2/28/2020 11:59:46 PM

这英文水平在老中圈里算一般还是低于平均水平?
s
slurslur
一般吧。我数据有限,且不在高科技行业。
蛋壳壳点灯
还行吧,比较口语化,通俗易懂啊……楼主想干嘛
g
greendeer
还行吧,比较口语化,通俗易懂啊……楼主想干嘛
蛋壳壳点灯 发表于 2/29/2020 12:33:20 AM

他被我老板(烙印)暗示英语不够好,但我觉得还okay,我自己的水平感觉也和他差不多,所以担心老板会不会也觉得我英语不好
g
greendeer

Re 楼主赶紧删掉吧

azhe 发表于 2/29/2020 12:08:59 AM

I modified it a lot before posting it here
k
kitty2
中规中矩吧,能明显看出来是non native speaker写的
b
baozimiantiao
同事带领的一个大项目今天做完了,他给几百人的大组发了封信,表示感谢和庆祝,大家觉得这英文怎么样?
As of today, all the applications have completed the migration to the new platform! I would like to thank all the teams for their cooperation and efforts. Without your support and coordination, we wouldn’t be able to reach such a huge milestone!

The architecture team initiated this project three years ago and officially kicked off the migration project in June 2019. Over the past 9 months, fourteen teams were involved, 1 million lines of code were rewritten, Axyz framework was mostly removed from the codebase, 70% of the code was converted to TS, 200 new APIs were created. We removed the strong dependency on third party frameworks, established and enforced coding syntax and conventions, built application lifecycle protocols, standardized logging system, improved existing APIs, and finally made the application a real Single Page Application.

I especially wanted to thank the Architecture team for their hard work, can-do attitude, keen eyes for identifying areas for improvement, and passion for building great products. As you know, the Architecture team is quite a small team with only 4 developers, and 3 of them were hired one month before we kicked off the project. It was amazing that they were able to pick up the knowledge immediately and complete such a challenging cross-team project in such a short term period.

I wanted to thank Matt for being such an amazing team lead for the Architecture team, for coordinating 14 teams successfully, for always addressing questions in a timely manner, and for setting up a great role model for the team. I also wanted to thank Mike for his hard work, top-notch technical skills, and his deep caring for the codebase.

With the new architecture, our system is able to provide improved performance, scalability, more stabilized API, and enhanced developer experience.

Again, thanks to everyone for this big accomplishment! Look forward to working with you all on our next project.

greendeer 发表于 2/28/2020 11:20:34 PM
学习了。。
s
slurslur

他被我老板(烙印)暗示英语不够好,但我觉得还okay,我自己的水平感觉也和他差不多,所以担心老板会不会也觉得我英语不好
greendeer 发表于 2/29/2020 12:41:19 AM
m
moneytalks
好多中式排比句,没必要啰里八嗦的
g
greendeer
好多中式排比句,没必要啰里八嗦的
moneytalks 发表于 2/29/2020 12:49:20 AM

烙印的英语真好啊。 羡慕中,感觉自己看多少书都写不出烙印的水平.中式排比句我看得还挺激动的 :-)
s
slurslur
我个人觉得我们读书出来的中国人,被G托带入坑里了。来了美国才发现平时说的话,工作中写的Email,跟G托里的英语简直就是两个世界。口语还是要多说才能提高,Email也是要多读别人的email多写自己的email才能提高。读杂志小说提高不了多少。
7
789
这个英语除了有点拗口,没有什么毛病吧?—- 坐等英文专家意见
slurslur 发表于 2/28/2020 11:59:46 PM


典型的清格力士。每句话至少1-2个错误。冠词滥用。
好比说第一句:
As of today, all the applications have completed the migration to the new platform! I would like to thank all the teams for their cooperation and efforts. Without your support and coordination, we wouldn’t be able to reach such a huge milestone!

Migrate这个动作的主语是人,application应该是宾语。应该说 As of today, all the applications have been migrated to the new platform.
后面一句一会 them 一会 your乱用。应该是 I would like to thank all the teams for your cooperation and efforts. Without your support and coordination, we wouldn’t be able to reach such a major milestone!
7
789
我个人觉得我们读书出来的中国人,被G托带入坑里了。来了美国才发现平时说的话,工作中写的Email,跟G托里的英语简直就是两个世界。口语还是要多说才能提高,Email也是要多读别人的email多写自己的email才能提高。读杂志小说提高不了多少。
slurslur 发表于 2/29/2020 12:56:13 AM


这个人的英文可赖不上G,基本的语法都是错的。倒是应该好好练一下G可以提高。
g
greendeer


这个人的英文可赖不上G,基本的语法都是错的。倒是应该好好练一下G可以提高。

789 发表于 2/29/2020 12:58:59 AM

可以再指出一些语法错误吗? 学习一下。 我都看不出来有什么大的错误,只是觉得一看就是中国人写的。
s
slurslur


这个人的英文可赖不上G,基本的语法都是错的。倒是应该好好练一下G可以提高。

789 发表于 2/29/2020 12:58:59 AM
n
ningzhu
英文水平不重要 就是写这么多不知道谁有空从头看到尾 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
c
cristal2011
我英文这么烂,都看出第一句就不对劲儿了。
c
cuctuscat
太长了,又不是写情书,也不是写报告,工作邮件要从简吧
C
Californiaa
同事带领的一个大项目今天做完了,他给几百人的大组发了封信,表示感谢和庆祝,大家觉得这英文怎么样?
As of today, all the applications have completed the migration to the new platform! I would like to thank all the teams for their cooperation and efforts. Without your support and coordination, we wouldn’t be able to reach such a huge milestone!

The architecture team initiated this project three years ago and officially kicked off the migration project in June 2019. Over the past 9 months, fourteen teams were involved, 1 million lines of code were rewritten, Axyz framework was mostly removed from the codebase, 70% of the code was converted to TS, 200 new APIs were created. We removed the strong dependency on third party frameworks, established and enforced coding syntax and conventions, built application lifecycle protocols, standardized logging system, improved existing APIs, and finally made the application a real Single Page Application.

I especially wanted to thank the Architecture team for their hard work, can-do attitude, keen eyes for identifying areas for improvement, and passion for building great products. As you know, the Architecture team is quite a small team with only 4 developers, and 3 of them were hired one month before we kicked off the project. It was amazing that they were able to pick up the knowledge immediately and complete such a challenging cross-team project in such a short term period.

I wanted to thank Matt for being such an amazing team lead for the Architecture team, for coordinating 14 teams successfully, for always addressing questions in a timely manner, and for setting up a great role model for the team. I also wanted to thank Mike for his hard work, top-notch technical skills, and his deep caring for the codebase.

With the new architecture, our system is able to provide improved performance, scalability, more stabilized API, and enhanced developer experience.

Again, thanks to everyone for this big accomplishment! Look forward to working with you all on our next project.

greendeer 发表于 2/28/2020 11:20:34 PM

还好了,语言的目的只是沟通而已。有必要吹毛求疵吗?
r
riveroam

Re 楼主赶紧删掉吧

azhe 发表于 2/29/2020 12:08:59 AM

I modified it a lot before posting it here

会不会是你modified part造成了大家的这种感觉。。。
s
senko
lz嫉妒同事,说自己看不出来哪里不好 ,让大家看看,暗搓搓放到网上 ,很阴暗的人 希望你同事看到知道你是是么样的人
G
Gr4ce
樓主 你這樣做公司可以把你開掉的
P
PinkSwan
楼主太阴暗了。你这种人英语再好都不可能做leader,格局太小,心态不正。
z
zipfile
楼主有毛病吗?这么不专业把公司邮件贴网上?就这low品职场能有啥出息
l
luck2020
把意思表达清楚了不就行了,美国人对这个英文表达应该没问题
V
Volans
做到这个位置的人凭得肯定不止是英文水平。第一代移民的英文能比得上老美甚至烙印吗?那又如何?你同事只要技术拔尖客户认可,英文即使有瑕疵也不是你把公司EMAIL发到论坛的理由。
今生无悔
这么长有几个人会认真看。英文作为第二语言能够到这个水平很不错了,英文能力不是最重要的不必要因此羞愧。印度被殖民很多年不能跟她们比。
J
JasonBlack
这样贴出来,公司的policy允许吗
我不爱美丽
公司内部邮件属于公司机密。不能也不应该公布。华人常常被卷入间谍纷争,有些是事实,有些是完全没有保护公司信息的概念。比如楼主。你已经违反了公司的规定。如果公司想要开除你。这个就是证据。
n
new_bie
语法一塌糊涂。很多时态都不对。
k
kyky224
意思能明白,就是觉得这磕磕巴巴的。 英语真不咋滴,估计没仔细检查就发了。
潜水艇
真有人会读完这种邮件么? 一般看个大概知道在说什么跟着高兴高兴就行了
g
greendeer
公司内部邮件属于公司机密。不能也不应该公布。华人常常被卷入间谍纷争,有些是事实,有些是完全没有保护公司信息的概念。比如楼主。你已经违反了公司的规定。如果公司想要开除你。这个就是证据。
我不爱美丽 发表于 2/29/2020 12:56:28 PM

和公司相关的内容我早已全改掉,这样的祝贺项目完成的信网上一堆堆的。就算我同事本人来看他也未必能确定这是他写的信。我觉得我的英文水平和他相似,因为我看不出来任何大的语法错误。贴在这儿之前我找了个英文中学老师看了一下,他建议把 applications have migrated to have been migrated, 除此之外,他觉得没什么大问题。我贴出来的目的是想看下大家认为这样的英文是average 还是很差。如果很差,那说明我也需要提高,因为我觉得我和他水平差不多
q
qas168888
这人就算现在不是大领导未来也会是的。无关文字,重要的是attitude
g
greendeer
这人就算现在不是大领导未来也会是的。无关文字,重要的是attitude
qas168888 发表于 2/29/2020 1:54:35 PM

怎么看出来的?
C
Cybercat
只有我觉得还挺好吗?我平时看邮件也不看语法,意思能明白就好了。我周围挺多白人英语写的一塌糊涂,很繁冗,这个人起码写的挺清楚。 这人写了challenges, accomplishments, impact也量化。写的挺清楚,连我们这些外人外行都能看明白,我觉得这就很好了啊。
T
TWO-TWO
真有人会读完这种邮件么? 一般看个大概知道在说什么跟着高兴高兴就行了

+1, 华人也真是醉了,一堆英文专家跳出来拿着放大镜挑语法错误,一般这种email 看了知道个大概就行了,句子通顺,意思表达清楚就完了,又不是出书。美国人平时自己写的email还常有语法错误呢
估计这个中国人升上去靠的不是英文水平吧,否则老美个个英文比他强,怎么就没做到他的职位呢,楼主还是多研究一下人家的硬实力吧,别老关注人家的英文

T
TWO-TWO
只有我觉得还挺好吗?我平时看邮件也不看语法,意思能明白就好了。我周围挺多白人英语写的一塌糊涂,很繁冗,这个人起码写的挺清楚。 这人写了challenges, accomplishments, impact也量化。写的挺清楚,连我们这些外人外行都能看明白,我觉得这就很好了啊。

我也觉得已经不错了,版上总有一大堆人鸡蛋里挑骨头。
这个中国人听上去职位已经做到一定level了,如果英文是他软肋的话,估计其他方面,技术上,及做人更强。感觉LZ的关注点错了,另外把公司内部的email这么发上来确实不合适,怎么知道这个中国老板不上华人?
g
greendeer

我也觉得已经不错了,版上总有一大堆人鸡蛋里挑骨头。

这个中国人听上去职位已经做到一定level了,如果英文是他软肋的话,估计其他方面,技术上,及做人更强。感觉LZ的关注点错了,另外把公司内部的email这么发上来确实不合适,怎么知道这个中国老板不上华人?

TWO-TWO 发表于 2/29/2020 2:43:23 PM

他这个人不太讲话因为口语不好,但务实,交给他组的活没有做不出来的。而且裁人不手软,组里谁都不敢混饭吃。但感觉因为语言问题,他也很难爬高。最高也就是个director 吧
b
bbppyyn
别tmd狡辩了。你要想让网友评判自己的英文好不好,自己直接写一段英文放上来不久结了。 就是看不得其他华人好。干这种龌龊事,恶心。
和公司相关的内容我早已全改掉,这样的祝贺项目完成的信网上一堆堆的。就算我同事本人来看他也未必能确定这是他写的信。我觉得我的英文水平和他相似,因为我看不出来任何大的语法错误。贴在这儿之前我找了个英文中学老师看了一下,他建议把 applications have migrated to have been migrated, 除此之外,他觉得没什么大问题。我贴出来的目的是想看下大家认为这样的英文是average 还是很差。如果很差,那说明我也需要提高,因为我觉得我和他水平差不多 greendeer 发表于 2/29/2020 1:51:00 PM
g
greendeer
别tmd狡辩了。你要想让网友评判自己的英文好不好,自己直接写一段英文放上来不久结了。

就是看不得其他华人好。干这种龌龊事,恶心。

bbppyyn 发表于 2/29/2020 2:56:33 PM

你想多了
s
smurfette
这个语法错误不是重点 但是太不native 了 老印们不会这么写 比如 i want to thank - team 1 - team 2 就好啊 公司内部邮件属于公司机密。不能也不应该公布。华人常常被卷入间谍纷争,有些是事实,有些是完全没有保护公司信息的概念。比如楼主。你已经违反了公司的规定。如果公司想要开除你。这个就是证据。
g
gem
写这么长最后感觉全文都在感谢Architecture team,也不知道其他team会不会觉得白忙活了。
q
qas168888

怎么看出来的?

greendeer 发表于 2/29/2020 1:59:44 PM

这你都看不出来?字里行间都是做好领导的料啊。。。算了你只关心英文水平
g
greendeer

这你都看不出来?字里行间都是做好领导的料啊。。。算了你只关心英文水平
qas168888 发表于 2/29/2020 6:22:19 PM

你是说夸奖员工?
s
star1991
我是认命英语到死也达不到native English speaker的水平,只要发工资给我就行
g
greendeer
我是认命英语到死也达不到native English speaker的水平,只要发工资给我就行
star1991 发表于 2/29/2020 8:11:47 PM

早不抱希望了
T
TWO-TWO

我也觉得已经不错了,版上总有一大堆人鸡蛋里挑骨头。

这个中国人听上去职位已经做到一定level了,如果英文是他软肋的话,估计其他方面,技术上,及做人更强。感觉LZ的关注点错了,另外把公司内部的email这么发上来确实不合适,怎么知道这个中国老板不上华人?

TWO-TWO 发表于 2/29/2020 2:43:23 PM

他这个人不太讲话因为口语不好,但务实,交给他组的活没有做不出来的。而且裁人不手软,组里谁都不敢混饭吃。但感觉因为语言问题,他也很难爬高。最高也就是个director 吧

爬不爬得上去,也是看人家的造化,LZ还是多关注一下提高自己的实力吧,别老跟人家较劲
G
Guluguluzhi
得扒出楼主到底是谁才能把这种人渣给踢出去。贴公司内部邮件,被发现可能有法律问题的。还纠结语法问题?有病。已保存,如有需要绝对送出来当证据。
g
greendeer
得扒出楼主到底是谁才能把这种人渣给踢出去。贴公司内部邮件,被发现可能有法律问题的。还纠结语法问题?有病。已保存,如有需要绝对送出来当证据。
Guluguluzhi 发表于 3/1/2020 2:36:08 PM

我说过好几次了这封信早已被我改得发信人都认不出来了。又不是Apple 的secret 项目,硅谷几千家公司,上万个组,这样的email 大家天天见,不明白有什么必要纠结。
z
zojirushi
中规中矩吧,能明显看出来是non native speaker写的
kitty2 发表于 2/29/2020 12:44:44 AM

+1
袖底风
恍惚看过这贴 仔细看日期 果然看过