CDC's Mission on its website: CDC works 24/7 to protect America from health, safety and security threats, both foreign and in the U.S. Whether diseases start at home or abroad, are chronic or acute, curable or preventable, human error or deliberate attack, CDC fights disease and supports communities and citizens to do the same. CDC increases the health security of our nation. As the nation’s health protection agency, CDC saves lives and protects people from health threats. To accomplish our mission, CDC conducts critical science and provides health information that protects our nation against expensive and dangerous health threats, and responds when these arise.
CDC's Mission on its website: CDC works 24/7 to protect America from health, safety and security threats, both foreign and in the U.S. Whether diseases start at home or abroad, are chronic or acute, curable or preventable, human error or deliberate attack, CDC fights disease and supports communities and citizens to do the same.
CDC increases the health security of our nation. As the nation’s health protection agency, CDC saves lives and protects people from health threats. To accomplish our mission, CDC conducts critical science and provides health information that protects our nation against expensive and dangerous health threats, and responds when these arise. kamchee 发表于 2/27/2020 9:24:54 AM
CDC's Mission on its website: CDC works 24/7 to protect America from health, safety and security threats, both foreign and in the U.S. Whether diseases start at home or abroad, are chronic or acute, curable or preventable, human error or deliberate attack, CDC fights disease and supports communities and citizens to do the same.
CDC increases the health security of our nation. As the nation’s health protection agency, CDC saves lives and protects people from health threats. To accomplish our mission, CDC conducts critical science and provides health information that protects our nation against expensive and dangerous health threats, and responds when these arise. kamchee 发表于 2/27/2020 9:24:54 AM
“Upon admission, our team asked public health officials if this case could be COVID-19. We requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, since neither Sacramento County nor (the California Department of Public Health) is doing testing for coronavirus at this time. Since the patient did not fit the existing CDC criteria for COVID-19, a test was not immediately administered,” said the email, which added that, “UC Davis Health does not control the testing process.”
On Sunday, the CDC ordered COVID-19 testing of the patient and the patient was put on airborne precautions and strict contact precautions. The positive test results were announced on Wednesday. 张小多 发表于 2/26/2020 9:40:46 PM
“This is not the first COVID-19 patient we have treated, and because of the precautions we have had in place since this patient’s arrival, we believe there has been minimal potential for exposure here at UC Davis Medical Center,” the email said.
“Since the patient arrived with a suspected viral infection, our care teams have been taking the proper infection prevention precautions during the patient’s stay.
“Just as when a health care worker has a small chance of exposure to other illnesses, such as TB or pertussis, we are following standard CDC protocols for determination of exposure and surveillance. So, out of an abundance of caution, in order to assure the health and safety of our employees, we are asking a small number of employees to stay home and monitor their temperature.
这cdc估计是明珠党控制的,今年是election year, 是不是想用这个打击trump
Re! 希望能够撤了cdc高官们,换老川的人上。这么大的疏漏总统不能问责他们吗?总统还被弹劾呢
文章明明写了医院有必要的防护措施。cdc是操蛋,但也没有必要说医院没做任何防护。
来个阴谋论:
反川:让加州疫情失控拉川普下台
川:反正加州不会选我
他们如果不是大外宣,就是为了证明自己在美国很安全,美国就是天堂,这种傻逼根本对美国的宪政体制是个负担,根本没本不理解在三权分立的制度下,作为纳税人应该做的监督和质疑的指责,这样的人,在哪里都是地球的负担
同觉得是美国医疗系统的系统性弊病导致的,里面的player太多了,cdc, regulation,回头还得扯上保险、药厂,不是简单阴谋论能解释的。
这个病人的家属能不能告CDC?
真的,这里面牵扯到很多利益集团,不是一般的黑。每届总统候选人都喊着医疗改革的口号上台,但上台后却往往不了了之。
病人家属没啥立场告吧。。。
又不是说测出来是corona就有不同的治疗方案。。。 还是那么治而已。
如果传染开了,别人倒是可以告CDC不作为导致疫情扩散。
这位不看新闻吧,美国至少两例都是抗病毒,而且要早期抗病毒,用没有上市的药。当然治疗方案不一样
发重了
X 光和CT 不是想照就能照的
这地洗的! 第一,一个新病毒细菌出来,本土例子少的情况下,自然要借鉴别国已经有的例子,而不是从头开始摸索。在中国已经有30%双阳性的情况,还坚持流感阳性就自动不测新冠的政策就是有意为之。另外,新冠有潜伏期,所以12月的武汉和上周的意韩都是歌舞升平,岁月静好,但一旦爆发,就不可收拾。
流感死1万,这病是流感的几十倍,死几十万?
这是不怕病毒的,比如哪个柬埔寨的洪森。对未知的病毒没有敬畏心。
来点实际的,少喊口号,测试盒有没有发给各个州
用没有上市的药,那是医生愿意试而已,不能算“存在具体不同的治疗方案”。而且不确定是corona,类似的症状,估计是病毒的话,一样可以试同样的药。
重点是,这样的症状,如果估计是病毒,那么是不是corona,治疗方案没啥实质不同。
确定是不是corona,实际上主要是防疫的需要。
一篇作文,什么实际的都没有
如果把12月份武汉的数据混到全国流感里面,根本看不出影响。即使是1月的数据如果都混到流感里面,感染几万人死几千人,也不会有显著变化。你等到能从流感数据里看到明显变化再采取行动,那是灾难性的结果了。
技术和常识的讨论分析不热门,国际阴谋论风生水起,激化言论两极化。现在到家门口了,希望对新闻能回归务实的讨论,别又落入新一轮帽子大战。
美国本地的还落得一个月清净,美华累心完中国还得操心美国,也是不容易。
我靠。
那你别查好了。确诊病毒当然有不同的治疗方法。早期的抗病毒治疗是很关键的。
股市已崩
肯定不是技术人员的问题,底层技术人员,要听领导的呀,上面的政策技术人员也抵抗不了。所以说,班上几个cdc员工和家属,没啥洗地必要
我想知道他们做了什么?
医护人员当然不是啥的,但是你这个医护里的败类是傻逼却毋庸置疑
这板上给cdc上班绑架全体美国人的不少。
还没发呢,还在拖呢,这是不把人命当数
我别查?难道你查?说不过就开始针对个人了?
就一简单问题:同样的症状,严重的肺部感染,医生大概猜测是病毒,但确定还是不确定是corona,您是否知道医生能有明确的不同治疗方案?您知道,就说是,不知道,就说不知道,可以么?
你这个鬼扯的理论,你自己相信吗?
按照你的理论,因为美国现在没有什么新冠,所以新冠和流感的双阳重合的概率基本是0,所以cdc测了流感是阳性就不测新冠是有道理的。
把流感换成任何一种疾病都是成立的。
因为美国没有什么新冠,病人同时是糖尿病和新冠的概率是0,所以Cdc应该先测病人的糖尿病,如果是糖尿病了,就不测新冠了。
中国30%的流感和新冠双阳,就充分证明这两种病根本不互斥。
得了流感就不测新冠还有脸说自己没做错?什么中国政府带节奏啊?中国政府没有你这个神奇不要脸的思路,想带节奏都带不到这个思路来!
谢谢总结分享啊,能反省到这点也是进步;是不容易哈哈,决定多操心自己还是
这个flu positive,有link吗?
你的逻辑呢?
既然两种病不互斥,cdc测出流感就不测新冠了。流感的死亡人数里当然有可能有新冠造成的死亡。新冠以经大发病超过两个月了好吗。你怎么保证美国没有两个月前的新冠患者?
美国新冠人数少的前提是cdc不测!不测就没有。你怎么知道实际有多少?
都这会了,还给cdc洗地,同时给别人扣帽子呢。又蠢又坏!
他还说,早期模型没计算国内干预的程度,后来他们重做模型,还有人给他微信‘你的话几天之内就会被碾个粉碎’。
医生说话算直白的,信不信是另一回事,但是不能只看标题是一定的。因为国内媒体不会用负面标题,而西媒关注点不一样,且摘要得厉害,WHO武汉考察完就quote了专家组一两句。
这是他们的问题,所以读者更要自己细读。
怎么能没影响?你估计没看前面有人总结的卫健委自己发布的数据吧。2019年6-10月,全国流感病例每个月大概是50000人左右,11月涨到150000人,12月涨到一百多万人。2018年同期数据也可以拿出来比较,这种显著差异,不需要数学计算都能看出来。
像意大利那样多死几个白人?
I guess that the hospital doesn't have the the test kit. Need to apply from them or send sample to them to test.
没有test kit,以及保险公司会坚决拒付这部分钱,而且违反cdc guideline医生自己会吃不了兜着走。uc davis医生见过新冠病人,其实一看ct就能知道是新冠,所以才坚持要求了四天cdc才点头,其他没有新馆冠经验的医院,不一定有这个决心来做,到最后就是稀里糊涂肺炎死了
新闻里的说法是防护还是到位的。
可恨的是CDC不给检查!
“This is not the first COVID-19 patient we have treated, and because of the precautions we have had in place since this patient’s arrival, we believe there has been minimal potential for exposure here at UC Davis Medical Center,” the email said.
“Since the patient arrived with a suspected viral infection, our care teams have been taking the proper infection prevention precautions during the patient’s stay.
“Just as when a health care worker has a small chance of exposure to other illnesses, such as TB or pertussis, we are following standard CDC protocols for determination of exposure and surveillance. So, out of an abundance of caution, in order to assure the health and safety of our employees, we are asking a small number of employees to stay home and monitor their temperature.
这个文章里写了啊,CDC承认来源不明。肯定是没有旅行史没有接触史非撤桥非公主号。希望这能促进CDC改变政策,只测武汉旅行史的标准必须改变。
这个图好!
这个图恰恰明确显示今年流感比去年流感大幅增加。2017-2018年度的超高死亡率是因为H1N1,也就是禽流感,2008-2009年度是因为猪流感,都是全球瘟疫。而平时因为没有大流行,死亡率只有1/2到1/3. 而今年死亡率如此大幅攀升。几乎到达历史高点,还是在滞后的情况下,这正说明问题很严重。
你作图好,但不求甚解,结果得出错误的结论。
对啊,因为prevent动静甚至代价可能更大。只是从个人心态出发,都愿意prevent。
抄别人考卷专门找错的抄,牛大发了
可能得死几例才能撬开那些官僚的榆木脑袋。。。
新闻里面也说了,今年flu 有两个wave.
拜托回帖前先弄明白h1n1、禽流感和猪流感是什么再说。今年流感严重是共识,我从不给CDC洗地,不过硬要说是新肺导致的我也不同意。
门诊比例就已经达到历史最高,几乎赶超猪流感?这不已经说明问题是多严重吗?猪流感全球北美死20几万人,既然你说第二张图是死亡率,而且还只是加州的,那么你可以去查查那个spike就是猪流感。历史最高!H1N1是全球瘟疫,你可以去查查死亡率再来defend cdc.
你说第二张图是死亡率,那么你的图停在2019, 你怎么得处新病毒死亡率不高的结论?
你先自己搞清在洗。
另外,你自己解释一下今年流感严重是为什么?为什么是共识?谁给你的共识?