https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related According to court documents, since 2008, Dr. Lieber who has served as the Principal Investigator of the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, which specialized in the area of nanoscience, has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD). These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities. Unbeknownst to Harvard University beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China and was a contractual participant in China’s Thousand Talents Plan from in or about 2012 to 2017. China’s Thousand Talents Plan is one of the most prominent Chinese Talent recruit plans that are designed to attract, recruit, and cultivate high-level scientific talent in furtherance of China’s scientific development, economic prosperity and national security. These talent programs seek to lure Chinese overseas talent and foreign experts to bring their knowledge and experience to China and reward individuals for stealing proprietary information. Under the terms of Lieber’s three-year Thousand Talents contract, WUT paid Lieber $50,000 USD per month, living expenses of up to 1,000,000 Chinese Yuan (approximately $158,000 USD at the time) and awarded him more than $1.5 million to establish a research lab at WUT. In return, Lieber was obligated to work for WUT “not less than nine months a year” by “declaring international cooperation projects, cultivating young teachers and Ph.D. students, organizing international conference[s], applying for patents and publishing articles in the name of” WUT. The complaint alleges that in 2018 and 2019, Lieber lied about his involvement in the Thousand Talents Plan and affiliation with WUT. On or about, April 24, 2018, during an interview with investigators, Lieber stated that he was never asked to participate in the Thousand Talents Program, but he “wasn’t sure” how China categorized him. In November 2018, NIH inquired of Harvard whether Lieber had failed to disclose his then-suspected relationship with WUT and China’s Thousand Talents Plan. Lieber caused Harvard to falsely tell NIH that Lieber “had no formal association with WUT” after 2012, that “WUT continued to falsely exaggerate” his involvement with WUT in subsequent years, and that Lieber “is not and has never been a participant in” China’s Thousand Talents Plan.
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有的钱能拿,有的钱不能拿,这个从小就知道的事,怎么到成人了还不知道了。那个哈佛主任不就每月拿五万嘛,好了,人自己都搭进去了,何苦啊。清贫一点不行啊,廉洁一点会死啊
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这个是支持的!但是同胞看见华裔名教授关了门,不管人家为了医学,科研做了多少贡献,上来就喊活该,真是看不下去
多少funding?你了解吗?你知道私立大学有教授把自己可怜的工资减半养lab吗?你知道一个R01很可能只能养自己和一个博后吗?
你说的这种可怜兮兮的只有自己和一个薄厚的实验室,是不会引起国内兴趣的,也不会收到千人计划的邀请。
一切合法就完了,不至于把人家赶尽杀绝
你连千人计划都不了解的就滚一边儿去吧
所以李医生让写悔过书。
请你举出一个千人计划者的例子,他在美国的实验室除了他自己手下只有一个薄厚。
大千人小千人你了解一下
就是这么回事。
如果你说的是千青的话,似乎美国还没有开始抓千青吧。千青掌握的资源比千人少多了。
千人也就罢了。有的并不是千人,就是国内来往频繁,课题有些overlap,教授甚至自己并没有国内领工资,也因大环境遭受调查,lab无法运行,实验老鼠被打破杀掉。支持要遵纪守法,但是确实很多教授很冤枉。
千青你怎么知道没有倒霉的呢?只不过不够出名,没有上新闻而已。大批华人学者回国,长远讲其实是个好事。但是那些起哄的,较好的,卯足劲踩的,真看不下去
据我所知道的周边教授被调查的,都是有nih基金而又同时两边拿了钱的。如果没有用到联邦政府的科研拨款经费,而受到调查的,我还没听说过。你举个这样的具体例子?
你说千青也有被抓的,那你实名举一个例子嘛。一个例子抵千言。还有,你说“长远讲是好事”,是指对中国是好事还是对美国是好事啊?
手上只有一个R01的,很难当上千人。
有一个R01文章不错的话能拿到的。
很少。一般都有2-4个。没价值的教授,国内也不会追捧和邀请。
早些年肯定可以的。这些年水涨船高有难度。能拿到千人的在学术圈应该都属于起码中等偏上吧,有学术追求的。如果一味是为了钱,去公司好了,活轻松点,挣的也多。就是不稳定,过几年要挪地方。
还有学术圈巨震带来的一个后果是有的地方attending staff不愿意带中国的resident了。
那就彻底回国肯定没这问题了
清千全职,干嘛抓
你懂不懂
市场决定价值,好多教授其实都不值这个价格。udemy 10刀的课不错的很多。
那可不是 偷了别人东西被抓 跟警察说我还了就完了
你不觉得可笑?
情报人员这么干都是要处死的
自己穷不是偷东西的理由。说那么多申请经费多困难,和欺诈盗窃知识产权一点儿关系都没有。逻辑这么混乱,怎么当上faculty的。
这个类比有点恶心了。李医生犯了哪条法?
妹妹,我赞同你的观点。但很多教授做的并不是医学研究,就是那种万年都应用不到实际中去的纯理论。
不排除有人是两面圈钱的,而且大部分人都是。
有情怀的人也是有的,但是真的犯不着跑中国去。
可以跟别的国家合作的。
花自己钱出去开会的教授也是有的,搞生物医药的教授和博士也确实都是带着情怀在工作的。不然不会那么多人明知道搞生物的工资低,却还是不肯转行。不是因为智商不够,也不是因为怕换专业,还真是因为喜欢和带着情怀来工作的。
只要给学校说,学校没反对,备案就不违法。
很多学校都有政策,每周可以1天在外面工作。Cornell某些系教授50%收入都是外面来的。
学校都欢迎教授在外面申请基金。
关键是透明,备案,学校还提成。当然如果2个基金有冲突,也需要双方同意的。
这回复是真清晰真好,很多人脑子乱胡搅蛮缠。
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related
According to court documents, since 2008, Dr. Lieber who has served as the Principal Investigator of the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, which specialized in the area of nanoscience, has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD). These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities. Unbeknownst to Harvard University beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China and was a contractual participant in China’s Thousand Talents Plan from in or about 2012 to 2017. China’s Thousand Talents Plan is one of the most prominent Chinese Talent recruit plans that are designed to attract, recruit, and cultivate high-level scientific talent in furtherance of China’s scientific development, economic prosperity and national security. These talent programs seek to lure Chinese overseas talent and foreign experts to bring their knowledge and experience to China and reward individuals for stealing proprietary information. Under the terms of Lieber’s three-year Thousand Talents contract, WUT paid Lieber $50,000 USD per month, living expenses of up to 1,000,000 Chinese Yuan (approximately $158,000 USD at the time) and awarded him more than $1.5 million to establish a research lab at WUT. In return, Lieber was obligated to work for WUT “not less than nine months a year” by “declaring international cooperation projects, cultivating young teachers and Ph.D. students, organizing international conference[s], applying for patents and publishing articles in the name of” WUT. The complaint alleges that in 2018 and 2019, Lieber lied about his involvement in the Thousand Talents Plan and affiliation with WUT. On or about, April 24, 2018, during an interview with investigators, Lieber stated that he was never asked to participate in the Thousand Talents Program, but he “wasn’t sure” how China categorized him. In November 2018, NIH inquired of Harvard whether Lieber had failed to disclose his then-suspected relationship with WUT and China’s Thousand Talents Plan. Lieber caused Harvard to falsely tell NIH that Lieber “had no formal association with WUT” after 2012, that “WUT continued to falsely exaggerate” his involvement with WUT in subsequent years, and that Lieber “is not and has never been a participant in” China’s Thousand Talents Plan.
追逐名利就是这些人的情怀,科研界的暗黑也不少
中国大妈在街上一躺二闹三上吊习惯了。还是中共厉害:直接丢到方舱。偷给了中共,去中共哪里接着讨狗粮去,不是在美国我弱我有理。
抓的是违反法律,隐瞒资金来源的那些行为。
您后面说的这就彻底是胡扯了。有关系有好文章手里拽着好项目的 在这里读博n年 博后n年 耗费多少资金实验器材原料人力物力 还有的给你绿卡给你国籍,
这样的之后离开美国到其他国家(包括中国的)的人,有的是呢,这行为本身一点儿问题都没有。
你这样把那些遵纪守法的教授,跟小偷绑一起,太不公平了。你以为这些教授没有国内诱惑吗?只是人家不拿,不敢拿。
这会让好好守法的人觉得公平,社会才没戾气
你在佛罗里达?
当年其中一个给我给过推荐信的。Sigh。
照板上的说法,50w美元就是一个普通码农的工资吧?这教授肯定比大部分码农聪明多了。感觉当教授工资真低。。。。。
照LZ的说法,不是有情怀吗?
我就李涛一下工资。。。
没问题吗?
张首晟说,我死的好冤呐!
那个什么华科还是哪里的海归得新冠肺炎死的教授说,我死的好倒霉呀!
现在海外的也不安全呢,那个加拿大p4实验室,邱香果偷病毒的那个实验室头,莫名其妙的心脏病死!
和ccp打交道非常危险
法律?你在搞笑么?这个行为本身里面的诸多细节违反法律的多了去了 这些人在离开的过程中干了哪些违法勾当 你怎么知道 谁敢担保孑然一身 啥也不带回国的 多多少少都要搞点代码搞点实验成果带回去 要不然中国要你干嘛 中国也不傻 你来你要名要利要钱 你拿什么换? 必须要拿以前的研究成果和项目再来做东西 这个过程很难撇得清哪头是哪头的 除非你干的完全是两码子事情 很难辩解的清楚 所以基本一逮一个准
邱香果就是个很好的例子 更多的根本没有人知道 知道有人很多年前在斯坦福做博后 把实验室代码偷了回去 现在在某个大学做院长 他学生说那些代码风格各异全是bug 一个实验室很多人写的 他不管 带回去混个名头是真的 头些年这样的人多了去了
一码归一码。贡献的时候,也没有少给他应得的劳动报酬。每一个成年人都要为自己的行为负责。
sharp
行啊,您非要认为“有关系有好文章手里拽着好项目的 在这里读博n年 博后n年 耗费多少资金实验器材原料人力物力 还有的给你绿卡给你国籍,”的人,然后找到其他国家工作,走人了,这样的行为就是有问题,美国人允许这样的行为就是傻子,您就这样认为好了。认为还不够,请一定四处去多说说,这样大家就都知道您多么高明了,好么?
你可能不知道美国抓的是哪类人,拿着美国房顶做完研究后去国内复制一份完全一样的,一个研究拿两份钱,研究成果是美国出钱实现的,顺便成就土共。也就是完全窃取的行为。这种偷窃行为值得提倡和理解?
你高看她了
顶多是faculty家属 搞不好还是家里蹲那种
你要是没偷你怕什么!
有人怀疑你偷,你咋不说是ccp教唆人去偷、是有的人贪心不足才去偷
你不去谴责ccp、那些假骗偷
反而在这里嘲弄不偷不抢、揭露ccp丑事、你嘴里根本不去想的大妈,还是你想的多
武汉冠毒是实验室制造的,就是王73盗国贼集团的生物武器
郭文贵已经指名道姓了,你可以去告诉王73,让他来美国告郭文贵诽谤
敢吗?继续山洞里眯着、看看全世界怎么收拾这帮贼上贼
主要是奴才跪地上习惯了
站起来不敢骂皇上,也就是嘲笑、骂骂别的奴才
知道对华人的影响还这么做,这种人够渣
活捉一名阿Q
这也是贪,拿funding、作出research的虚荣心,难道比贪钱的更高尚
赚的钱只够买coach,结果非得去买爱马仕,不见得比谁更高尚
回国赌一把的,输了就输了吧,就愿赌服输吧