https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1227990885901705217CDC will begin using the national flu surveillance tracking system with health departments in 5 cities to test patients with flu-like symptoms for #coronavirus. This is an important and prudent step that’ll help identify outbreaks earlier. The cities are SF, LA, ATL, Chicago, NY.
cdc傻逼的地方在于，在地方医生没有能力测新冠之前，第一，不应该说这个病是low health risk，不应该鼓励大家不戴口罩，这么做，白白让很多人在不知情的情况下被感染；第二不应该assume没有流感和新冠双阳性，这么做，放走了一大批有湖北旅游史发烧咳嗽的人，这些人，有多少人是新冠，现在又已经感染了多少人，没法估计。
cdc傻逼的地方在于，在地方医生没有能力测新冠之前，第一，不应该说这个病是low health risk，不应该鼓励大家不戴口罩，这么做，白白让很多人在不知情的情况下被感染；第二不应该assume没有流感和新冠双阳性，这么做，放走了一大批有湖北旅游史发烧咳嗽的人，这些人，有多少人是新冠，现在又已经感染了多少人，没法估计。
cdc傻逼的地方在于，在地方医生没有能力测新冠之前，第一，不应该说这个病是low health risk，不应该鼓励大家不戴口罩，这么做，白白让很多人在不知情的情况下被感染；第二不应该assume没有流感和新冠双阳性，这么做，放走了一大批有湖北旅游史发烧咳嗽的人，这些人，有多少人是新冠，现在又已经感染了多少人，没法估计。
Novel coronavirus can be spread by people who aren’t exhibiting symptoms, CDC director says From CNN's Jacqueline Howard Asymptomatic transmission of the novel coronavirus is possible, Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told CNN. In other words, Redfield said that an infected person not showing symptoms could still transmit the virus to someone else based on information from his colleagues in China. “There’s been good communication with our colleagues to confirm asymptomatic infection, to confirm asymptomatic transmission, to be able to get a better handle on the clinical spectrum of illness in China. What we don’t know though is how much of the asymptomatic cases are driving transmission,” he told CNN’s Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta in an interview on Thursday. Redfield continued: “What I’ve learned in the last two weeks is that the spectrum of this illness is much broader than was originally presented. There’s much more asymptomatic illness. A number of the confirmed cases that we confirmed actually just presented with a little sore throat.”
Novel coronavirus can be spread by people who aren’t exhibiting symptoms, CDC director says From CNN's Jacqueline Howard Asymptomatic transmission of the novel coronavirus is possible, Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told CNN. In other words, Redfield said that an infected person not showing symptoms could still transmit the virus to someone else based on information from his colleagues in China. “There’s been good communication with our colleagues to confirm asymptomatic infection, to confirm asymptomatic transmission, to be able to get a better handle on the clinical spectrum of illness in China. What we don’t know though is how much of the asymptomatic cases are driving transmission,” he told CNN’s Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta in an interview on Thursday. Redfield continued: “What I’ve learned in the last two weeks is that the spectrum of this illness is much broader than was originally presented. There’s much more asymptomatic illness. A number of the confirmed cases that we confirmed actually just presented with a little sore throat.” fish_fish 发表于 2/13/2020 2:23:00 PM
cdc傻逼的地方在于，在地方医生没有能力测新冠之前，第一，不应该说这个病是low health risk，不应该鼓励大家不戴口罩，这么做，白白让很多人在不知情的情况下被感染；第二不应该assume没有流感和新冠双阳性，这么做，放走了一大批有湖北旅游史发烧咳嗽的人，这些人，有多少人是新冠，现在又已经感染了多少人，没法估计。
12:07 pm: White House does not have ‘high confidence’ in China’s coronavirus data The United States does “not have high confidence in the information coming out of China” regarding the count of coronavirus cases, a senior administration official told CNBC’s Eamon Javers. The official also noted that China “continues to rebuff American offers of assistance.” The New York Times reported last week that Chinese authorities had shown little interest in accepting help from the U.S. — Lovelace
Novel coronavirus can be spread by people who aren’t exhibiting symptoms, CDC director says From CNN's Jacqueline Howard
Asymptomatic transmission of the novel coronavirus is possible, Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told CNN.
In other words, Redfield said that an infected person not showing symptoms could still transmit the virus to someone else based on information from his colleagues in China.
“There’s been good communication with our colleagues to confirm asymptomatic infection, to confirm asymptomatic transmission, to be able to get a better handle on the clinical spectrum of illness in China. What we don’t know though is how much of the asymptomatic cases are driving transmission,” he told CNN’s Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta in an interview on Thursday.
Redfield continued: “What I’ve learned in the last two weeks is that the spectrum of this illness is much broader than was originally presented. There’s much more asymptomatic illness. A number of the confirmed cases that we confirmed actually just presented with a little sore throat.” fish_fish 发表于 2/13/2020 2:23:17 PM
2:04 pm: Top White House advisor says US disappointed with coronavirus response The U.S. is “quite disappointed” with China’s response to the coronavirus outbreak, a top White House adviser said, criticizing Beijing for a lack of transparency. Speaking to reporters at the White House, National Economic Council Director Larry Kudlow said the Trump administration had thought there was better transparency than there has turned out to be. He also said the administration was very disappointed that Beijing had not accepted a U.S. invitation to send a team of experts from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to help China in its efforts to contain the outbreak. In an interview last week with CNBC, Vice President Mike Pence had praised China’s transparency. —Reuters with CNBC
Nearly six weeks after the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention first offered to help China with its coronavirus outbreak, the offer still has not been accepted, CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield told CNN. The outbreak of the novel coronavirus was first identified in early January. “There’s a lot of information we don’t know — that’s why I offered to provide assistance, direct assistance, and send our CDC folks over there back on January 6 to really help them gather that information and also to help us see the information first hand that we need to help make the right public health recommendations for our nation,” Redfield told CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta in an interview on Thursday. He added: “That letter has not been responded to yet by the official Chinese government. We do believe that we’re the best in the world in this space and we’re ready to help and assist them, but they’re an independent nation that has to make that decision that they’re going to invite us in.”
Twitter 回复大部分都觉得cdc无能，措施晚了。 有个人说他们从越南回来，老公很严重的症状，但是医院不给测，因为没有新冠接触史。在纽约。 还有一个纽约医院工作的说，纽约医院的protocol virtually ensured they would NOT id the virus, 要满足各种苛刻要求。听起来非常吓人！ 现在知道纽约的结界怎么建立的了吧。
Hong Kong confirms three more cases of coronavirus From Chermaine Lee in Hong Kong Hong Kong confirmed three additional coronavirus cases on Thursday, bringing the total to up to 53, according to a government statement. A 43-year-old male patient is the relative of a previous case. He developed a cough on Jan. 29, and has had diarrhea and vomiting since Jan 31. The other two new cases are a 67-year-old woman and her 37-year-old son, who had dinner with three previous confirmed cases in a seafood restaurant. The mother developed a cough on Jan. 31 and a fever on Feb. 1, while her son developed a fever on Feb. 8.
Better late than never.
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对啊 全美国都是猪党把控 川普是这摊淤泥里的白莲花
你就是大家口中的华人川粉大妈？ 能不能不要这个时候胡说八道吃疫情人血馒头？ 你是不是不知道你们川粉是个什么声誉？
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下面非民选官僚还不都是猪党的 本来医疗系统就是猪党的大本营 看看DOJ 整个律师系统的大本营技术官僚全是猪党背景 给床铺添点堵不要太容易
这是一种什么样的精神？！
湖北有个领导坚持和带病女演员握手不是传上了，后来还传给了部下
🛋️ 沙发板凳
是用flu排除法吗？那还会有漏网的，也是之前大家担心的。
有人可能flu跟corona virus 同时感染，靠flu positive排除这样的病人很危险。但比什么都不做要强太多。
我记得以前看到过，不单是test，而是宏观的tracking，比如追踪每个地区的911电话数量、医院病人数量、超市橙汁销售数量等等。
😂 来大数据了。。。。
就是用已有的流感跟踪系统，对有流感症状的病人，也进行新冠病毒的测试。这是非常好的事。CDC真的行动起来了。
CDC发现快要hold不住了，但愿是乌鸦嘴
潜伏期中位数是3天
Re。
都测试，但是只局限在最危险的5个城市。虽然一开始测试速度慢，但现在测试已经下放，速度要上来了。
就是说，如果你有流感症状去看医生，医生会给你测流感，也会测新冠
过去的二十天，是要有湖北旅游史或者和确诊患者接触史，发烧咳嗽，排除流感以及其他病毒感染，才会采样送cdc测有没有新冠
cdc傻逼的地方在于，在地方医生没有能力测新冠之前，第一，不应该说这个病是low health risk，不应该鼓励大家不戴口罩，这么做，白白让很多人在不知情的情况下被感染；第二不应该assume没有流感和新冠双阳性，这么做，放走了一大批有湖北旅游史发烧咳嗽的人，这些人，有多少人是新冠，现在又已经感染了多少人，没法估计。
还有人为cdc洗地的话，那就全家得新冠吧
一句话，能保护自己的只有自己
没有症状的人毕竟少数，而且没有症状的人传染性也比较低。不咳嗽不发烧，病毒没法进入空气传染。
鼓励戴口罩也没用，现在网上网下都买不到
那剩下的小部分呢？
诗人在新冠肺炎这件事情上在华人的发言，总是让人感觉一言难尽。
That's why we never trust government agencies.
是这样。🈶️这个tracking system ，早就建立的，很透明，不存在蛮不蛮报问题。用在新冠上会起到很好跟踪作用。终于启动了。
我老家一个男的的妈得了新冠 他回来又传染给他丈母娘，自己是阴性。
别高兴太早，从开始提议到最后实施，还不知道多久呢，一年半载都有可能，只不过大家可以自己向医生提议了，如果感觉不对劲，一个医生不给做，赶紧换其他的医生，这病越早治疗希望越大
re CDC真心没法洗 给洗的是从来没被DMV USCIS screw over的吗？
从历史来看，swine flu, ebola, zika， cdc每次的guideline都不是预防而是补救，所以大家应该记住，cdc说的话，别全信，相信自己的judgement
哇这是正经承认了
感觉他们（CDC）以为自己知道所有消息因为中国的CDC一直在和他们通报。
但是，现在他们发现有些消息对他们是屏蔽的，或者现在发现是被故意误导了。
真是太天真了
有可能，真可怕
Re 早就被华人一抢而空寄回中国了
那也太浪费资源了。估计是抽查做sample. 估算各种情况的分布。
题外话，我有两个感想：
1. 记得钻石公主邮轮上接受采访的那个mm吗？她就是传说中的B之一，没有症状而唾液带菌，妥妥疫情的影子杀手。再看她一眼～ 如果真如你们所说白人不怕这个病毒，我们海华很可能栽在这个病毒上 ^_^
2. 那些嘲笑华人大妈瞎紧张妄图指导人家CDC的，要不要再出来走两步～
CDC这个傻b今天终于承认无症状也可以传染了，CNN刚报的
别小看他们，他们早就知道了，不想做事而已。对普通百姓来说，口罩就是最直接的保护自己的方法，尤其是这五个大城市要坐公共交通commute的人
所以我一直觉得买口罩捐的比代购还可恶。代购好歹是为了钱不要命，你们这些捐给红十字会的是不是sa？
再加一个： San diago基地里confirm的三岁小姑娘，妈妈华人，爸爸白人。外公已经因为肺炎去世，妈妈重症。小姑娘现在有症状被确诊。她爸爸应该有很高几率被传染，但是目前还没有确诊。
要不然那么多人对此有意见呢，谁没事儿闲的期盼着纽约有呀，这么测 ，纽约又是流感大暴发的地方，要漏掉多少呀。有点儿常识的人都会觉得不对劲，提出点儿质疑，还被无脑纽约小粉红骂，现在证明这些人都是脑残弱智了
三岁小女孩confirm了吗？
有新闻链接吗？ 哪两条航线？
http://www.mingpaocanada.com/Tor/htm/News/20200213/tcac1_r.htm
https://www.worldjournal.com/6783685/article-%E7%BE%8E%E4%B8%AD2%E6%A2%9D%E8%88%AA%E7%B7%9A%E7%8D%B2%E5%87%86%E5%BE%A9%E9%A3%9B-%E6%BB%BF%E8%B6%B3%E7%96%AB%E6%83%85%E7%9F%AD%E6%9C%9F%E9%9C%80%E6%B1%82/
北京-洛杉磯-舊金山與北京-紐約-華盛頓兩條串飛航線
复飞是复飞 travel ban还没解除，总归来的人会少一点吧
纽约没有就是个joke，大家都知道肯定会，政府不作为，就是没有办法找到这些人，当普通肺炎死了也不是没可能，毕竟每年冬天纽约普通肺炎也死那么多人
这是两回事。那有没有考虑到，有些有口罩的人，会因为cdc的misleading而不戴？没口罩这是商业问题，cdc明文说不用戴口罩这是误导公共健康，不能混为一谈。
华人mm又立了一大功！！
想知道中国真正的状况，必须来找我们这样对中国政府知根知底的人才行。
检验能力？一个多月了，还没有合适的检测手段？那么多国家，特别日本，人家怎么那么快就检出来了？自己不会做，不会问人家啊？
一帮蠢货！
是不是应该给老床打电话？给CDC打电话用处也不大，说一下做一下
真的！智商为零吗
下面非民选官僚还不都是猪党的 本来医疗系统就是猪党的大本营 看看DOJ 整个律师系统的大本营技术官僚全是猪党背景 给床铺添点堵不要太容易