刚刚给CDC 打了电话

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SemLaic
楼主 (北美华人网)
Update:特别感谢楼里 电线小美 和 lingling7 同学的inputs,她们的回复分别在27楼和36楼,不知为何我贴不过来。
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介于近日对CDC不作为,工作效率低下等诸多的concern,刚刚给CDC打了电话。选coronavirus专门的option, 等待时间不长,第一个接线黑人小妹找了15分钟条款没找到,居然直接挂了我电话,果断给了差评。第二个接线小哥态度还不错。 Anyways, 我问了一个问题提了两点concern:

1. What is CDC's current procedure/criteria to release suspected coronavirus carrier to the public?
对方找了一会儿条款,照念,14天Quarantine period blabla...

2. Recent peer-reviewed research article on medRxiv (pronounced med archive) shows that there are cases of confirmed coronavirus where incubation period were as long as 24 days. Therefore, I have serious concerns about the current CDC recommended quarantine period being not long enough to screen out potential cases.
此处一定要强调 research article/publication on medRxiv (pronounced med archive), 接线员跟我说的是他们不接受news or social media based publication. 贴一个钟南山的文章链接:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.06.20020974v1

3. People recently evacuated from China are currently quarantined in groups instead of individually. Therefore, in case one case is confirmed (this happened to MCAS Miramar, CA today,confirmed case前两天还错被从医院放回基地了!https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2020-02-10/san-diego-county-has-firt), the quarantine period clock for the rest of the group should be reset. Otherwise, individual quarantine must be strictly fulfilled.
Quarantine in group参见日本邮轮

我要求接线小哥escalate my concern to upper level for consideration.他说他会写在表上提交,也会有工作人员7-10个工作日内email回复我的问题,希望靠谱。

英文水平一般,欢迎大家补充指正。
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顶lz,我们要多大电话。行动胜于一切!!!!!
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cheeryinmay
手动点赞,预计还有来嫌lz啥啥啥的,lz乐意,纳税人的权利!欣赏cdc的可以打电话去赞美啊,我也不拦着
政治科代表
楼主业内人士?感觉问题很sharp。
细雨空山
手动点赞,预计还有来嫌lz啥啥啥的,lz乐意,纳税人的权利!欣赏cdc的可以打电话去赞美啊,我也不拦着
cheeryinmay 发表于 2/11/2020 4:59:31 PM

以为火永远烧不到自己身上。习惯做顺民
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sevenzeal
每个州的执行力不一样
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keluoyi
楼主业内人士?感觉问题很sharp。

政治科代表 发表于 2/11/2020 5:03:28 PM

对,感觉问的问题很专业。找个native speaker打电话也问不出这样的问题,跟英文好不好没关系。不过好奇如果是专业人士,跟这种接线的小弟小妹打电话是不是有种鸡同鸭讲的感觉?他们哪里懂什么是peer-reviewed research article?所以我觉得给CDC打电话还是没用啊。
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赞👍赞赞
介于近日对CDC不作为,工作效率低下等诸多的concern,刚刚给CDC打了电话。选coronavirus专门的option, 等待时间不长,第一个接线黑人小妹找了15分钟条款没找到,居然直接挂了我电话,果断给了差评。第二个接线小哥态度还不错。 Anyways, 我问了一个问题提了两点concern: 1. What is CDC's current procedure/criteria to release suspected coronavirus carrier to the public? 对方找了一会儿条款,照念,14天Quarantine period blabla... 2. Recent peer-reviewed research article on medRxiv (pronounced med archive) shows that there are cases of confirmed coronavirus where incubation period were as long as 24 days. Therefore, I have serious concerns about the current CDC recommended quarantine period being not long enough to screen out potential cases. 此处一定要强调 research article/publication on medRxiv (pronounced med archive), 接线员跟我说的是他们不接受news or social media based publication. 贴一个钟南山的文章链接: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.06.20020974v1 3. People recently evacuated from China are currently quarantined in groups instead of individually. Therefore, in case one case is confirmed (this happened to MCAS Miramar, CA today,confirmed case前两天还错被从医院放回基地了! https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2020-02-10/san-diego-county-has-firt ), the quarantine period clock for the rest of the group should be reset. Otherwise, individual quarantine must be strictly fulfilled. Quarantine in group参见日本邮轮 我要求接线小哥escalate my concern to upper level for consideration.他说他会写在表上提交,也会有工作人员7-10个工作日内email回复我的问题,希望靠谱。 英文水平一般,欢迎大家补充指正。 SemLaic 发表于 2/11/2020 4:54:00 PM
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赞楼主。我想美国大范围传播肯定没有中国快,但是不幸被传染的人可能被毁一生。谁也不想成为那少部分倒霉的。 有没有email之类的,电话邮件一起来。
感觉lz的问题接线生应付不了,至少也的是科学硕士以上水平才能应对!lz做得对,接线生应对不了就让他们把问题写下来escalate to upper level!赞lz!
介于近日对CDC不作为,工作效率低下等诸多的concern,刚刚给CDC打了电话。选coronavirus专门的option, 等待时间不长,第一个接线黑人小妹找了15分钟条款没找到,居然直接挂了我电话,果断给了差评。第二个接线小哥态度还不错。 Anyways, 我问了一个问题提了两点concern: 1. What is CDC's current procedure/criteria to release suspected coronavirus carrier to the public? 对方找了一会儿条款,照念,14天Quarantine period blabla... 2. Recent peer-reviewed research article on medRxiv (pronounced med archive) shows that there are cases of confirmed coronavirus where incubation period were as long as 24 days. Therefore, I have serious concerns about the current CDC recommended quarantine period being not long enough to screen out potential cases. 此处一定要强调 research article/publication on medRxiv (pronounced med archive), 接线员跟我说的是他们不接受news or social media based publication. 贴一个钟南山的文章链接: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.06.20020974v1 3. People recently evacuated from China are currently quarantined in groups instead of individually. Therefore, in case one case is confirmed (this happened to MCAS Miramar, CA today,confirmed case前两天还错被从医院放回基地了! https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2020-02-10/san-diego-county-has-firt ), the quarantine period clock for the rest of the group should be reset. Otherwise, individual quarantine must be strictly fulfilled. Quarantine in group参见日本邮轮 我要求接线小哥escalate my concern to upper level for consideration.他说他会写在表上提交,也会有工作人员7-10个工作日内email回复我的问题,希望靠谱。 英文水平一般,欢迎大家补充指正。 SemLaic 发表于 2/11/2020 4:54:00 PM
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SemLaic
回复 7楼keluoyi的帖子 我当时讲的并不是很好,不过写下来的时候又稍作加工了一下。 另外你说的很对,我刚开始说peer-reviewed paper, 他们都不知道,还问我是哪个social media上的paper,实在无语 所以我们才要更多的educate他们
电线小美
赞lz,我等下也打一下
电线小美
我要提出 1 现在的测试准确率 2 医疗资源状况和配比以及最大病例数量限度
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SemLaic
回复 13楼电线小美的帖子 你可以写个大概的模板吗
细雨空山
👍我们华人mm的行动力,上次那个脸书跳楼也是我们华人mm挺身而出,巾帼不让须眉! 谁帖个模版我也修改下发一封。
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SemLaic
回复 9楼chore的帖子 据我的理解,CDC官网上说CoV有关的问题请打电话不要发邮件
电线小美
回复 13楼电线小美的帖子[/url]

你可以写个大概的模板吗

SemLaic 发表于 2/11/2020 5:30:50 PM

我英文很烂,可能不好意思发上来,给我点时间写完再心理建设一下
根深叶茂1288
必须点赞!
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laoyin
现在华人还是一片岁月静好,庆功帖比这贴人气高多了。
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L.angustifolia
求模版打电话。赞赞赞
我想我是疯了
赞楼主,行动力刚刚的
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SemLaic
回复 17楼电线小美的帖子 你就把你回帖里的这些观点写出来就行
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SemLaic
回复 20楼L.angustifolia的帖子 你可以大概照着我写的说,再加上你自己的观点就成
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chixal
这是中纪委问责CDC了嘛
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computer101
回复 7楼keluoyi的帖子[/url]

我当时讲的并不是很好,不过写下来的时候又稍作加工了一下。
另外你说的很对,我刚开始说peer-reviewed paper, 他们都不知道,还问我是哪个social media上的paper,实在无语
所以我们才要更多的educate他们

SemLaic 发表于 2/11/2020 5:20:38 PM


对很有可能只有高中学历的接线生,不要用 peer-reviewed paper, 用Academia paper,或者NIH Paper好一些
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xiaowenx
赞楼主。
电线小美
1) The accuracy of the laboratory testing - there seem to be significant amount of false negative outcomes and ended up being proved positives after several testings and so on. What does CDC do to ensure the lab test accuracy? and what's the backup plan? For example, For those potential infections that have been released back to the communities due to false negative, being said those people could infect others. What does CDC do to prevent spreading in communities due to the potential lack of testing accuracy? 2) There is correlation between the mortality and the supply of medical resources that can properly handle this type of deadly contagious infections. I assume that researches have been performed considering the severity of the virus. What’s the current top capacity in US?
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赞楼主!!
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babyflynn
你没有资格质疑cdc 因为你什么都不懂 而人家是专家

onesizeshita 发表于 2/11/2020 6:27:42 PM [/url]


我哗啦啦交税,我养着他们,凭什么不能质疑?想当顺民赶紧回国没人拦着你
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mia201
回复 7楼keluoyi的帖子 我当时讲的并不是很好,不过写下来的时候又稍作加工了一下。 另外你说的很对,我刚开始说peer-reviewed paper, 他们都不知道,还问我是哪个social media上的paper,实在无语 所以我们才要更多的educate他们

academic journal article 也可
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1) The accuracy of the laboratory testing - there seem to be significant amount of false negative outcomes and ended up being proved positives after several testings and so on. What does CDC do to ensure the lab test accuracy? and what's the backup plan? For example, For those potential infections that have been released back to the communities due to false negative, being said those people could infect others. What does CDC do to prevent spreading in communities due to the potential lack of testing accuracy?

2) There is correlation between the mortality and the supply of medical resources that can properly handle this type of deadly contagious infections. I assume that researches have been performed considering the severity of the virus. What’s the current top capacity in US?
电线小美 发表于 2/11/2020 6:33:12 PM

赞楼主和小美!
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yanle
赞赞赞,大家也可以去CDC Twitter上写,让更多关心的人看到。
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doublemint
这个强制隔离是group不是individual是真的啊?不是一人一间吗?那要是真的以组为单位,其中一人confirmed,其他人隔离时间当然要reset啊!这不需要专业知识这不是common sense吗?现在到底怎么执行的啊?
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lingling7
medrxiv是跟biorxiv一样的情况吗?那个不是published,只是preprint
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lingling7
1) The accuracy of the laboratory testing - there seem to be significant amount of false negative outcomes and ended up being proved positives after several testings and so on. What does CDC do to ensure the lab test accuracy? and what's the backup plan? For example, For those potential infections that have been released back to the communities due to false negative, being said those people could infect others. What does CDC do to prevent spreading in communities due to the potential lack of testing accuracy?

2) There is correlation between the mortality and the supply of medical resources that can properly handle this type of deadly contagious infections. I assume that researches have been performed considering the severity of the virus. What’s the current top capacity in US?
电线小美 发表于 2/11/2020 6:33:12 PM


第二条你是想说

the survival rate of the cases is positively correlated with the availability of medical resources for diagnosis and treatment.
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hylei
赞楼主!
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WalnutTree
🐂啊
电线小美


第二条你是想说

the survival rate of the cases is positively correlated with the availability of medical resources for diagnosis and treatment.

lingling7 发表于 2/11/2020 7:55:27 PM

谢谢修改!!!
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youyishuoyihr
华人缺少科学素养,只会恐惧, 真的可怕和丢脸!
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Renshengkuduan
辛苦了!
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auteman
介于近日对CDC不作为,工作效率低下等诸多的concern,刚刚给CDC打了电话。选coronavirus专门的option, 等待时间不长,第一个接线黑人小妹找了15分钟条款没找到,居然直接挂了我电话,果断给了差评。第二个接线小哥态度还不错。 Anyways, 我问了一个问题提了两点concern: 1. What is CDC's current procedure/criteria to release suspected coronavirus carrier to the public? 对方找了一会儿条款,照念,14天Quarantine period blabla...  2. Recent peer-reviewed research article on medRxiv (pronounced med archive) shows that there are cases of confirmed coronavirus where incubation period were as long as 24 days. Therefore, I have serious concerns about the current CDC recommended quarantine period being not long enough to screen out potential cases.  此处一定要强调 research article/publication on medRxiv (pronounced med archive), 接线员跟我说的是他们不接受news or social media based publication. 贴一个钟南山的文章链接: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.06.20020974v1   3. People recently evacuated from China are currently quarantined in groups instead of individually. Therefore, in case one case is confirmed (this happened to MCAS Miramar, CA today,confirmed case前两天还错被从医院放回基地了!https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2020-02-10/san-diego-county-has-firt), the quarantine period clock for the rest of the group should be reset. Otherwise, individual quarantine must be strictly fulfilled.   Quarantine in group参见日本邮轮 我要求接线小哥escalate my concern to upper level for consideration.他说他会写在表上提交,也会有工作人员7-10个工作日内email回复我的问题,希望靠谱。 英文水平一般,欢迎大家补充指正。
SemLaic 发表于 2/11/2020 4:54:31 PM
手动👍! ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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Gelatoweenie
给你点赞
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bluepearl
给所有打电话的人点赞👍
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SemLaic
回复 28楼电线小美的帖子 谢谢你,我回头总结一下
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fgwx2014
华人缺少科学素养,只会恐惧, 真的可怕和丢脸!
youyishuoyihr 发表于 2/11/2020 8:09:00 PM

你先把科学和素养都学完了,再来baba
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sunnywill
lz好厉害
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currycat
楼主专业 点赞
回复 28楼电线小美的帖子[/url]

谢谢你,我回头总结一下

SemLaic 发表于 2/11/2020 10:14:18 PM


赞lzmm,我明天也会给CDC打电话
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jiajia2018
赞专业知识和行动力!
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newlife2014
真可怕。五毛现在是什么情况。cdc也雇五毛
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SemLaic
回复 4楼政治科代表的帖子 谢谢你,我不专业,估计上学那会儿technical paper看得
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SemLaic


赞lzmm,我明天也会给CDC打电话

曲 发表于 2/11/2020 10:27:01 PM

我支持你!
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dajiangyoude
大赞楼主。问题都提到点上了。希望CDC 重视
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Janeouy
赞楼主
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lcccbwmm
赞,武汉封城那天我就给我们当地的议员发邮件了,要求关注并对新冠肺炎采取必要措施,妈的,屁结果和消息都没有。民主党议员就是一群猪。
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打电话直接要求跟supervisor对话 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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abclly
赞👍
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redapple1985
好贴好贴。 Update:特别感谢楼里 电线小美 和 lingling7 同学的inputs,她们的回复分别在27楼和36楼,不知为何我贴不过来。 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 介于近日对CDC不作为,工作效率低下等诸多的concern,刚刚给CDC打了电话。选coronavirus专门的option, 等待时间不长,第一个接线黑人小妹找了15分钟条款没找到,居然直接挂了我电话,果断给了差评。第二个接线小哥态度还不错。 Anyways, 我问了一个问题提了两点concern: 1. What is CDC's current procedure/criteria to release suspected coronavirus carrier to the public? 对方找了一会儿条款,照念,14天Quarantine period blabla... 2. Recent peer-reviewed research article on medRxiv (pronounced med archive) shows that there are cases of confirmed coronavirus where incubation period were as long as 24 days. Therefore, I have serious concerns about the current CDC recommended quarantine period being not long enough to screen out potential cases. 此处一定要强调 research article/publication on medRxiv (pronounced med archive), 接线员跟我说的是他们不接受news or social media based publication. 贴一个钟南山的文章链接: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.06.20020974v1 3. People recently evacuated from China are currently quarantined in groups instead of individually. Therefore, in case one case is confirmed (this happened to MCAS Miramar, CA today,confirmed case前两天还错被从医院放回基地了! https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2020-02-10/san-diego-county-has-firt ), the quarantine period clock for the rest of the group should be reset. Otherwise, individual quarantine must be strictly fulfilled. Quarantine in group参见日本邮轮 我要求接线小哥escalate my concern to upper level for consideration.他说他会写在表上提交,也会有工作人员7-10个工作日内email回复我的问题,希望靠谱。 英文水平一般,欢迎大家补充指正。
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dllds
medRxiv上的文章没有经过peer reviewed,但是通常之后都会以此发一篇peer reviewed的文章,可以说academic article,这样接线员也容易听懂。 不过这点细节不重要,给楼主大大的点赞!
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laoyin
可不可以加上一条,测所有疑似的病人,不光是去过武汉的呀。不然要漏掉很多人。
电线小美
可不可以加上一条,测所有疑似的病人,不光是去过武汉的呀。不然要漏掉很多人。
laoyin 发表于 2/12/2020 12:06:57 PM

我真的觉得你应该打电话说,大家都要试着跟cdc沟通,因为多点人提意见才会引起他们重视
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laoyin

我真的觉得你应该打电话说,大家都要试着跟cdc沟通,因为多点人提意见才会引起他们重视

电线小美 发表于 2/12/2020 5:19:42 PM

打电话,打
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SemLaic
回复 60楼dllds的帖子 感谢你的专业指正
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sisi12
Update:特别感谢楼里 电线小美 和 lingling7 同学的inputs,她们的回复分别在27楼和36楼,不知为何我贴不过来。
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

介于近日对CDC不作为,工作效率低下等诸多的concern,刚刚给CDC打了电话。选coronavirus专门的option, 等待时间不长,第一个接线黑人小妹找了15分钟条款没找到,居然直接挂了我电话,果断给了差评。第二个接线小哥态度还不错。 Anyways, 我问了一个问题提了两点concern:

1. What is CDC's current procedure/criteria to release suspected coronavirus carrier to the public?
对方找了一会儿条款,照念,14天Quarantine period blabla...

2. Recent peer-reviewed research article on medRxiv (pronounced med archive) shows that there are cases of confirmed coronavirus where incubation period were as long as 24 days. Therefore, I have serious concerns about the current CDC recommended quarantine period being not long enough to screen out potential cases.
此处一定要强调 research article/publication on medRxiv (pronounced med archive), 接线员跟我说的是他们不接受news or social media based publication. 贴一个钟南山的文章链接:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.06.20020974v1

3. People recently evacuated from China are currently quarantined in groups instead of individually. Therefore, in case one case is confirmed (this happened to MCAS Miramar, CA today,confirmed case前两天还错被从医院放回基地了!https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2020-02-10/san-diego-county-has-firt), the quarantine period clock for the rest of the group should be reset. Otherwise, individual quarantine must be strictly fulfilled.
Quarantine in group参见日本邮轮

我要求接线小哥escalate my concern to upper level for consideration.他说他会写在表上提交,也会有工作人员7-10个工作日内email回复我的问题,希望靠谱。

英文水平一般,欢迎大家补充指正。

SemLaic 发表于 2/11/2020 4:54:31 PM

闲的,美国不会爆发的,就算有也是流感致死
湫湫
赞楼主!!