2015年旧闻 Baric Lab 改造了SARS病毒 同时研制了瑞德西韦

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walkingroman
楼主 (北美华人网)
Baric Lab 改造了SARS病毒 同时研制了瑞德西韦。要不要用同样的阴谋论讨论一下这个实验室? https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/lab-made-coronavirus-triggers-debate-34502?archived_content=9BmGYHLCH6vLGNdd9YzYFAqV8S3Xw3L5 Ralph Baric, an infectious-disease researcher at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, last week (November 9) published a study on his team’s efforts to engineer a virus with the surface protein of the SHC014 coronavirus, found in horseshoe bats in China, and the backbone of one that causes human-like severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in mice. The hybrid virus could infect human airway cells and caused disease in mice, according to the team’s results, which were published in Nature Medicine . The results demonstrate the ability of the SHC014 surface protein to bind and infect human cells, validating concerns that this virus—or other coronaviruses found in bat species—may be capable of making the leap to people without first evolving in an intermediate host, Nature reported. They also reignite a debate about whether that information justifies the risk of such work, known as gain-of-function research. “If the [new] virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory,” Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, told Nature  . In October 2013, the US government put a stop to all federal funding for gain-of-function studies, with particular concern rising about influenza, SARS, and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS). “NIH [National Institutes of Health] has funded such studies because they help define the fundamental nature of human-pathogen interactions, enable the assessment of the pandemic potential of emerging infectious agents, and inform public health and preparedness efforts,” NIH Director Francis Collins said in a statement at the time. “These studies, however, also entail biosafety and biosecurity risks, which need to be understood better.” Baric’s study on the SHC014-chimeric coronavirus began before the moratorium was announced, and the NIH allowed it to proceed during a review process, which eventually led to the conclusion that the work did not fall under the new restrictions, Baric told Nature . But some researchers, like Wain-Hobson, disagree with that decision. The debate comes down to how informative the results are. “The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk,” Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and biodefence expert at Rutgers University, told Nature  . But Baric and others argued the study’s importance. “[The results] move this virus from a candidate emerging pathogen to a clear and present danger,” Peter Daszak, president of the EcoHealth Alliance, which samples viruses from animals and people in emerging-diseases hotspots across the globe, told Nature  . https://endeavors.unc.edu/fighting-emerging-diseases-at-unc/ A model platform for an academic-corporate partnership,Gilead Sciences, Inc.and UNC are teaming up to save lives. The biopharmaceutical company sought the resources and talents of theUNC Gillings School of Global Public Health’sBaric Lab in the development of treatments with the power to control outbreaks of disease. Ralph Baric, head of the lab and professor of epidemiology, has pioneered rapid-response approaches for the study of emerging viruses and the development of therapeutics. The lab was a natural fit when it came time to test a treatment with promise to work against multiple coronaviruses, a family of viruses that primarily infect the upper respiratory and gastrointestinal tract. The treatment is a broad-spectrum antiviral — it works against a large variety of viral pathogens — and is a potential key to pandemic preparedness. The increasing interconnectedness of our world makes it easy for sick people in seemingly remote areas to spread emerging viral diseases throughout the globe. The Gilead broad-spectrum treatment that was tested and proven in the Baric Lab, now known as Remdesivir , has been deployed for use in the current Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Not only does the drug have potential to save lives there, but all efficacy and safety results will inform treatments for other coronaviruses.
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grace1025
顺着这个理论也可以查一下,是不是又有人把这个研究偷回国了。。。如若不然,为啥全民责怪果子狸呢?
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In October 2013, the US government put a stop to all federal funding for gain-of-function studies, with particular concern rising about influenza, SARS, and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS).
大海的方向
石正丽团队参与了Baric的研究,12月底武汉爆出肺炎,12月30日病毒基因测序,1月6日分离,然后开始培养和做实验,1/21号病毒所申请瑞德西韦的专利,1/23石正丽出关于新肺炎的论文。

石正丽和Baric的论文:https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985?fbclid=IwAR0iTTfDlT-uxNFPtvQH-xFrF6QaF1hKE1Ey2TPrEi17XfFUElbpUlAosDc
洗白文:http://wap.sciencenet.cn/blog-404304-1217130.html?mobile=1 中提及的1/23日的新论文: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.22.914952v2
细雨空山
石头丽肯定是美奸
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Mimi4
中国的无良科学家偷病毒一点都不奇怪,参见那个从加拿大偷埃博拉病毒的。
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hahahapapapa
但是双黄莲 不是这人提的呀
清谷幽兰
什么意思 是有人为了能多卖药赚钱故意制造的瘟疫吗?
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calicali
https://sph.unc.edu/adv_profile/ralph-s-baric-phd/ 这个人研究和这的病毒简直是100%吻合, 石和他有合作
清谷幽兰
听起来怎么像古装剧里的故意制造瘟疫 然后有解药的那个假装是天上派下来拯救众生的
然后通过治病救人来收买人心然后加以利用的感觉
这个是纯粹为了卖药赚钱?
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pmmp
回复1楼walkingroman的帖子 你们整这么大字都是老花眼吗?mobile app上根本连成一片没法读😭 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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sissyfish
所以说生化危机不是不可能的。总有那么一小撮人觉得自己可以和大自然抗衡。连最基本的DNA复制机理都还没搞明白呢就敢操纵基因。
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butterflyThyca
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史巴拉咕
https://sph.unc.edu/event/virology-in-progress-a-mini-symposium-on-the-newly-emerging-coronavirus/ 他这个月7号要开讲座, 支持在线观看 A Mini-Symposium on the Newly Emerging Coronavirus Learn more about the 2019 Novel Coronavirus and the research being done by UNC’s world-class faculty to combat it. Featuring presentations by Dr. Ralph Baric, Dr. Shuntai Zhou and Dr. David Weber Friday, Feb. 7 1:30-3 p.m. EST This event will be available to stream live via WebEx. Join the stream (在线链接在最上面的网页里) Meeting number (access code): 733 519 494 Meeting Password: symposium
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faramita
现在才发这个....好好看看文章作者都有谁。不知道石正丽和病毒所就是被五毛拖下水的吗?
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cherry-310
什么意思?能解释一下?
现在才发这个....好好看看文章作者都有谁。不知道石正丽和病毒所就是被五毛拖下水的吗? faramita 发表于 2/5/2020 6:49:00 PM
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walkingroman
回复 2楼grace1025的帖子 这就要看你阴谋论是受益最大(股票暴涨)的嫌疑更大还是最接近的(地处武汉)嫌疑最大了。
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Threebears
回复 5楼细雨空山的帖子 石正丽会出来电视认罪,承认她都是被美国蛊惑了,培养了病毒,拿中国人民做实验
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walkingroman
还有股票啊
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CleverBeaver
还有股票啊
walkingroman 发表于 2/6/2020 1:04:03 AM

那为层主带节奏
gilead又不是tsla
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AaaaMei
听说Trump重启了这研究,如此看来,应该是trump下的毒。看看这场瘟疫谁的即得利益最大?美国官员还说瘟疫有助于工作回流美国。 trump下令暗杀伊朗将军,想要给自己impeachment造势,他当然也可以给中国下毒,再干掉一个。这病毒传播得速度这么快这么大,用来搞瘫痪一个大国,是非常好用得。怎么这么巧?如果致死率高,也达不到这传播速度。 美国CDC不紧不慢,好像一开始就满有把握,因为知道解药吧?但还的演下去。
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singingIris
听起来怎么像古装剧里的故意制造瘟疫 然后有解药的那个假装是天上派下来拯救众生的
然后通过治病救人来收买人心然后加以利用的感觉
这个是纯粹为了卖药赚钱?
清谷幽兰 发表于 2/5/2020 6:14:09 PM

上天有好生之德。这么大的全球瘟疫当然会有神力来帮人。中国老百姓这样受苦,有投毒的就有解毒,这个世界不是二元对立而是正负相连,有为名为利害人的就有不求回报帮人的。
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singingIris
听说Trump重启了这研究,如此看来,应该是trump下的毒。看看这场瘟疫谁的即得利益最大?美国官员还说瘟疫有助于工作回流美国。 trump下令暗杀伊朗将军,想要给自己impeachment造势,他当然也可以给中国下毒,再干掉一个。这病毒传播得速度这么快这么大,用来搞瘫痪一个大国,是非常好用得。怎么这么巧?如果致死率高,也达不到这传播速度。

美国CDC不紧不慢,好像一开始就满有把握,因为知道解药吧?但还的演下去。
AaaaMei 发表于 2/6/2020 1:34:09 AM

Trump不杀那一个头,百姓和兵会死的更多。明明本来签署的中美协议要延期了,谁是受益者?土共苦肉计演太多了,当初和苏联闹翻结果让百姓勒紧裤腰带还债。

土共研究病毒还敢发文章申请专利,保留六万多毒株,敢这样做还不会引起别人关注?
你这样颠倒黑白是非,发帖子没几毛,替血债累累的土共说话不怕瘟神找你吗?
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faceegbdf
这转基因病毒看来和贺建奎那个转基因婴儿一样的剧本啊,美国人操控,中国人实验,中美合作,好基友。
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luludog
关键是武汉公安还帮助抓医生,帮助扩散,这小说。。。
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cherry-310
听说你是个傻逼wm
听说Trump重启了这研究,如此看来,应该是trump下的毒。看看这场瘟疫谁的即得利益最大?美国官员还说瘟疫有助于工作回流美国。 trump下令暗杀伊朗将军,想要给自己impeachment造势,他当然也可以给中国下毒,再干掉一个。这病毒传播得速度这么快这么大,用来搞瘫痪一个大国,是非常好用得。怎么这么巧?如果致死率高,也达不到这传播速度。 美国CDC不紧不慢,好像一开始就满有把握,因为知道解药吧?但还的演下去。 AaaaMei 发表于 2/6/2020 1:34:00 AM
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AaaaMei

Trump不杀那一个头,百姓和兵会死的更多。明明本来签署的中美协议要延期了,谁是受益者?土共苦肉计演太多了,当初和苏联闹翻结果让百姓勒紧裤腰带还债。

土共研究病毒还敢发文章申请专利,保留六万多毒株,敢这样做还不会引起别人关注?
你这样颠倒黑白是非,发帖子没几毛,替血债累累的土共说话不怕瘟神找你吗?

singingIris 发表于 2/6/2020 2:31:58 AM


I am so scarred by you. I am just guessing and commenting. I do not work for any party nor against any... You talked just like that aggressive biochemical weapon.
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AaaaMei
听说你是个傻逼wm

cherry-310 发表于 2/6/2020 1:05:23 PM


So do you
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boshi
Baric Lab 改造了SARS病毒 同时研制了瑞德西韦。要不要用同样的阴谋论讨论一下这个实验室?

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/lab-made-coronavirus-triggers-debate-34502?archived_content=9BmGYHLCH6vLGNdd9YzYFAqV8S3Xw3L5

Ralph Baric, an infectious-disease researcher at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, last week (November 9) published a study on his team’s efforts to engineer a virus with the surface protein of the SHC014 coronavirus, found in horseshoe bats in China, and the backbone of one that causes human-like severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in mice. The hybrid virus could infect human airway cells and caused disease in mice, according to the team’s results, which were published in Nature Medicine. The results demonstrate the ability of the SHC014 surface protein to bind and infect human cells, validating concerns that this virus—or other coronaviruses found in bat species—may be capable of making the leap to people without first evolving in an intermediate host, reported. They also reignite a debate about whether that information justifies the risk of such work, known as gain-of-function research. “If the [new] virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory,” Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, told Nature. In October 2013, the US government all federal funding for gain-of-function studies, with particular concern rising about influenza, SARS, and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS). “NIH [National Institutes of Health] has funded such studies because they help define the fundamental nature of human-pathogen interactions, enable the assessment of the pandemic potential of emerging infectious agents, and inform public health and preparedness efforts,” NIH Director Francis Collins said in a statement at the time. “These studies, however, also entail biosafety and biosecurity risks, which need to be understood better.” Baric’s study on the SHC014-chimeric coronavirus began before the moratorium was announced, and the NIH allowed it to proceed during a review process, which eventually led to the conclusion that the work did not fall under the new restrictions, Baric told Nature. But some researchers, like Wain-Hobson, disagree with that decision. The debate comes down to how informative the results are. “The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk,” Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and biodefence expert at Rutgers University, told Nature. But Baric and others argued the study’s importance. “[The results] move this virus from a candidate emerging pathogen to a clear and present danger,” Peter Daszak, president of the EcoHealth Alliance, which samples viruses from animals and people in emerging-diseases hotspots across the globe, told Nature.
https://endeavors.unc.edu/fighting-emerging-diseases-at-unc/ A model platform for an academic-corporate partnership, Gilead Sciences, Inc. and UNC are teaming up to save lives. The biopharmaceutical company sought the resources and talents of the UNC Gillings School of Global Public Health’s Baric Lab in the development of treatments with the power to control outbreaks of disease. Ralph Baric, head of the lab and professor of epidemiology, has pioneered rapid-response approaches for the study of emerging viruses and the development of therapeutics. The lab was a natural fit when it came time to test a treatment with promise to work against multiple coronaviruses, a family of viruses that primarily infect the upper respiratory and gastrointestinal tract. The treatment is a broad-spectrum antiviral — it works against a large variety of viral pathogens — and is a potential key to pandemic preparedness. The increasing interconnectedness of our world makes it easy for sick people in seemingly remote areas to spread emerging viral diseases throughout the globe. The Gilead broad-spectrum treatment that was tested and proven in the Baric Lab, now known as Remdesivir, has been deployed for use in the current Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Not only does the drug have potential to save lives there, but all efficacy and safety results will inform treatments for other coronaviruses.

walkingroman 发表于 2/5/2020 5:43:59 PM

好多信息
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boshi
顺着这个理论也可以查一下,是不是又有人把这个研究偷回国了。。。如若不然,为啥全民责怪果子狸呢?
grace1025 发表于 2/5/2020 5:47:50 PM

居然只偷病毒,没偷解药。
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cherry-310
wm你能至少过了英文6级再来写吗?太chiglish了
I am so scarred by you. I am just guessing and commenting. I do not work for any party nor against any...  You talked just like that aggressive biochemical weapon. AaaaMei 发表于 2/6/2020 2:51:00 PM
佛佛的仙人球
看来石正丽的人头借定了
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AaaaMei
wm你能至少过了英文6级再来写吗?太chiglish了

cherry-310 发表于 2/8/2020 1:14:40 AM

Chiglish 有什么关系?我本来就是中国来的,和你一样啊,要不然就不在这华人网混了。不像有些人,真心以为自己是地道得美国人了,在这里骂一骂中国,就假装不是中国来的啦
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bananarama
Chiglish 有什么关系?我本来就是中国来的,和你一样啊,要不然就不在这华人网混了。不像有些人,真心以为自己是地道得美国人了,在这里一骂中国,就假装不是中国来的啦
AaaaMei 发表于 2/9/2020 12:02:28 AM


见过皮厚的,没见过皮像你这么厚的。难怪是五毛,专业素质到人品就一个字-烂!
喜欢阴阳怪气嘲讽美籍华人把“真心以为自己是地道美国人”彻底暴露了你。只有国内那些酸葡萄,和你这种带任务的五毛最喜欢这么说美华。别装了!
还有,别自作多情说自己跟其他网友一样。谁跟你一样low??? 中国出生的就都一样啊?!你也配?我呸吧你!
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AaaaMei


见过皮厚的,没见过皮像你这么厚的。难怪是五毛,专业素质到人品就一个字-烂!
喜欢阴阳怪气嘲讽美籍华人把“真心以为自己是地道美国人”彻底暴露了你。只有国内那些酸葡萄,和你这种带任务的五毛最喜欢这么说美华。别装了!
还有,别自作多情说自己跟其他网友一样。谁跟你一样low??? 中国出生的就都一样啊?!你也配?我呸吧你!

bananarama 发表于 2/9/2020 1:46:06 AM

你怎么就知道我是五毛?我自己就是美籍华人,我为什么嘲讽自己?还有请不要这样泼妇骂街
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gvcc
时间线是这样的。
2013年5月,石正丽组和美国纽约的一个NGO的合作项目,
发现中国境内某种蝙蝠携带类似SARS病毒,以此投稿到Nature,
9月份接收,10月出版。论文地址
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711

2015年6月,北卡的研究组利用石的病毒样本,合成一种新的冠状病毒。
具有全部活性,可传人,已知的治疗手段都不管用。这个合成病毒是用2013年石正丽
发现的蝙蝠天然病毒中的spike protein替换2003年的SARS-CoV中的S蛋白,
是个嵌合体,这个新的人造病毒命名是SHC014-CoV。
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985?fbclid=IwAR0iTTfDlT-uxNFPtvQH-xFrF6QaF1hKE1Ey2TPrEi17XfFUElbpUlAosDc

已知最早人工合成新冠的,有论文出处的是北卡研究组。北卡发的文章10多个作者石只排倒数第2。当时这文章一发表就引起巨大争议,项目据说被叫停,最后是否继续完成就不得而知了。

Remdesivir也是北卡组的Ralph Baric领导的小组与Gilead合作研究的药物,一期临床
也是在北卡做的。

这些信息怎么解读就看个人了。
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RolandQ
时间线是这样的。
2013年5月,石正丽组和美国纽约的一个NGO的合作项目,
发现中国境内某种蝙蝠携带类似SARS病毒,以此投稿到Nature,
9月份接收,10月出版。论文地址
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711

2015年6月,北卡的研究组利用石的病毒样本,合成一种新的冠状病毒。
具有全部活性,可传人,已知的治疗手段都不管用。这个合成病毒是用2013年石正丽
发现的蝙蝠天然病毒中的spike protein替换2003年的SARS-CoV中的S蛋白,
是个嵌合体,这个新的人造病毒命名是SHC014-CoV。
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985?fbclid=IwAR0iTTfDlT-uxNFPtvQH-xFrF6QaF1hKE1Ey2TPrEi17XfFUElbpUlAosDc

已知最早人工合成新冠的,有论文出处的是北卡研究组。北卡发的文章10多个作者石只排倒数第2。当时这文章一发表就引起巨大争议,项目据说被叫停,最后是否继续完成就不得而知了。

Remdesivir也是北卡组的Ralph Baric领导的小组与Gilead合作研究的药物,一期临床
也是在北卡做的。

这些信息怎么解读就看个人了。

gvcc 发表于 2/18/2020 1:25:27 AM

顺着思路,虽然美国的被叫停了,但被弯道超车们偷回国,继续搞实验,结果实验室管理不善,泄露了,然后把锅扣回亡我之心,逻辑上很通顺
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crybabe
现在这个Dr. Baric真的又跳出来说他develop的人民的希望是唯一可能治疗covid-19的药物,不寒而栗的感觉。这一切也太巧合了。 https://www.wunc.org/post/unc-lab-may-offer-hope-covid-19-treatment
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RolandQ
这个话题又被翻出来了,都己经辩了几轮了...
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surezzz
现在的科学早就堕落了,各个实验室就是追名逐利的作坊/工厂。人性道德在中美两国都不重要了。
现在这个Dr. Baric真的又跳出来说他develop的人民的希望是唯一可能治疗covid-19的药物,不寒而栗的感觉。这一切也太巧合了。 https://www.wunc.org/post/unc-lab-may-offer-hope-covid-19-treatment crybabe 发表于 4/15/2020 2:55:00 AM