Proposition 13 is often considered the "third rail" of California politics, which means that politicians avoid discussions of changing it. In the 2003 California recall election in which Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected governor, his advisor Warren Buffett suggested that Proposition 13 be repealed or changed as a method of balancing the state's budget.[62] Schwarzenegger, believing that such an act would be inadvisable politically and could end his gubernatorial career, said, "I told Warren that if he mentions Proposition 13 again he has to do 500 sit-ups."[63] Gavin Newsom, when asked about the fairness of Proposition 13 in a 2010 interview with The Bay Citizen, said: "The political realities are such that Democrats, not just Republicans and Independents, are overwhelmingly opposed to making adjustments in terms of the residential side of Prop. 13. On the commercial and industrial side, there seems to be a lot more openness to debate about looking at augmenting Prop. 13 along those lines. Of course, it's a difficult time to do that...when you're trying to encourage manufacturing back into your state, and you already have a cost differential between states that border us, you don't want to now increase their burden in terms of property tax on that commercial and industrial space."[64] In 2011, California GovernorJerry Brown was quoted as saying that it wasn't Proposition 13 that was the problem, but "It was what the Legislature did after 13, it was what happened after 13 was passed" because the legislature reduced local authorities' power.[65] In a later interview in 2014, he lamented that he hadn't built up a "war chest" with which to campaign for an alternative to Proposition 13. Governor Brown said he'd learned from his failure in the mid-1970s to build a war chest that he could have used to push an alternative to Proposition 13. Governor Brown was definitive that he would not seek to change the law, a third rail in California politics. "Prop. 13 is a sacred doctrine that should never be questioned," he said.[5]
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学校没有地税支持怎么运转？因为大量低税收房产，所以房价居高不下。一旦房价降低，地税也就低了。
你咋不说商用房产价格更低了，周转更快了，也能更快的应周边居民变化而做出调整了？这当然是好事啊。。
那不能支持吧。商用和商业地产租金上涨，结果服务业cost增加，价格上涨，而住宅价格并不降低，年轻人日子并没有更好过啊。
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Proposition 13 is often considered the "third rail" of California politics, which means that politicians avoid discussions of changing it.
In the 2003 California recall election in which Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected governor, his advisor Warren Buffett suggested that Proposition 13 be repealed or changed as a method of balancing the state's budget.[62] Schwarzenegger, believing that such an act would be inadvisable politically and could end his gubernatorial career, said, "I told Warren that if he mentions Proposition 13 again he has to do 500 sit-ups."[63]
Gavin Newsom, when asked about the fairness of Proposition 13 in a 2010 interview with The Bay Citizen, said: "The political realities are such that Democrats, not just Republicans and Independents, are overwhelmingly opposed to making adjustments in terms of the residential side of Prop. 13. On the commercial and industrial side, there seems to be a lot more openness to debate about looking at augmenting Prop. 13 along those lines. Of course, it's a difficult time to do that...when you're trying to encourage manufacturing back into your state, and you already have a cost differential between states that border us, you don't want to now increase their burden in terms of property tax on that commercial and industrial space."[64]
In 2011, California Governor Jerry Brown was quoted as saying that it wasn't Proposition 13 that was the problem, but "It was what the Legislature did after 13, it was what happened after 13 was passed" because the legislature reduced local authorities' power.[65] In a later interview in 2014, he lamented that he hadn't built up a "war chest" with which to campaign for an alternative to Proposition 13. Governor Brown said he'd learned from his failure in the mid-1970s to build a war chest that he could have used to push an alternative to Proposition 13. Governor Brown was definitive that he would not seek to change the law, a third rail in California politics. "Prop. 13 is a sacred doctrine that should never be questioned," he said.[5]
prop 13 是典型的 "我買了房子了，不管你們其他人，地方沒稅收不關我的事"的法案。但是你不用擔心，因為大部分的人也一樣自私，所以prop 13不會被廢。安心吧。
有房的多还是没房的多？想白拿政府钱的多还是努力工作的多？想多收税的政治家多还是为民请命的多？
这种proposition就是多数暴政，大部分人在大部分时候都是大概率的愚蠢的。
（认真脸）人家对safe的定义就是损失金额在一千刀以上呀。所以不算骗人。
啥时候对safe的定义变成了不死就行，neighborhood一定会更加safe。
说实话如果自住不卖的话房价跌不是反而是好事吗 为什么“眼睁睁看着房价跌”是不好的而房主需要极力避免？？
为啥不呢？可以换房子。
Paper Value : 500K, Market Value 1.5M. Tax = ~6000-7000USD
If Prop 13 is repealed, New Market Value 1.0M. Tax = ~12000-14000 USD
這是賠了房價還要多繳稅。
你可以搬走啊 美国那么多州气候比得上加州的有吗 如果有也应该不超过三个吧 好地方大家都想住那么居住成本一定高 所以最后只能是高收入有钱人住着不吃力 这是对一个有效资本市场最基本的尊重吧
对啊，那样不是更好吗，那些白人老头霸占着房子，为什么？
一两百万就能把码工吓得屁滚尿流，太小瞧码工了吧？
这边房价很高一个主要原因，就是这些老住户不卖房子，老了死了传给孩子，继续享受低房产税。市场上只是零星的房子在买。
讲真美国买房必须得刚需 温州那套这边可能不太好使
应该出租房和自住房设立不同税率
应该是这样。 总不能有人在某地住了一辈子，朋友都在那儿，最后因为付不起地产税被迫迁出。
出租房是另一回事，不是生活必须。
在不减少政府财政收入的情况下，能把房价打压下来，我不认为是坏事情。
这也是一个办法。
现在加州也在推rental control，既然地税不许涨，那房租也不许随便涨，但目前看来动了房东们的奶酪，也不容易。
为什么吃亏？这逻辑，少赚了就是吃亏吗？
坚决支持废除不合理法案。什么时候夏时制全国废除？
这是个好方法，湾区很多人手里几套投资房出租，不是生活必须的就多涨点税呗
prop 13 是民众投票通过的， 当时政府是反对的。
同意。买投资房的比较紧张，但对于持币代购的新人是最大福音。
不管怎样， prop 13造成地方市人口老化，新人进不来，当地学区缺资金，生源不够，看看 Cupertino 南边小学就知道了。
完全同意!就是新来的人被老居民房东剥削的手段。
出租房涨房产税， 加州房租必然继续涨涨涨，加州人民好日无边。
所有现在有房子的人都会经历房价下跌。跌多少就看税涨多少了。
共产州的福利总要有出处的，这下有房子的都会被榨油。
不是新出的法律说房租最多只能涨5%吗
出租房价格下跌自住房也应该会跌的。
房产税欠着就好了，卖房时候补总不见得一边享受低地税，一边享受Capital gain
才出台了新法案，房租不能涨过5%。
rent control其实是加州房市另一个毒瘤，出租房房产税增加会导致房东成本增加， 限制房租涨幅如果不能cover成本，会抑制出租房供给，很多出租房投资者撤出，最后还是renter吃亏。
你看三番早就有rent control了，也没啥影响，不租那就卖出去好了，房价跌了人买得起房子就不用租房了，再说了又不是只有投资房，周围都是apartment我还真的不担心
我们今年政府声明不涨地税， 但是要涨汽车登记税，停车费用等等。。。。
不租房子难道还把房子拆了？怎么就减少房子数量了？
对，你说得对，不会拆房子，政府会立法禁止房东让房子空置，或者直接让homeless的占领空置房，前几天已经有类似新闻了。
出租房调高房产税 空置房收空置税
房价跌了有好处，第一房产税低了。第二，同样的经济能力可以住更好的房子，不用高薪养小黑屋了。
所以rental control是好还是不好？你说rental control是renters 受害
胡说吧。
非常坏，纽约那些平民窟就是这样产生的：房东不能按市场长房租，所以投资者要么撤出，要么不维修，这样市场上好的出租房更少，供求关系，当然租客吃亏。
听说连波特兰，肯塔基都通过了这个垃圾法案，就看一个烂摊子吧。
加州本来可以不用这么贵的房，可是烂货政府有美国最麻烦的建房标准，所以没多少人愿意建房，大家都只能抢小黑屋。养肥了，现在要杀了：按市场价格收税！
其实等加州的房子一半以上在老中手里，加州共产政府肯定拿他开刀。
我居然不知道纽约贫民窟因为rental control产生的，笑死了。
关贫民窟什么事，Berkeley也有rent control啊，咋不见有贫民，如果这些穷的人没有地方住能去哪，你又不要homeless又想要多收租，还是你想把付不起钱的人都赶去加州做homeless😂😂
利益不同，很多年轻人买房买在高价，他们不在乎。很多老人房价买的低，税率影响比较大。