Trade war: China to make huge purchases of US goods as details of phase one deal revealed[size=1.357142857142857] Sources confirm that China has committed to making large scale purchases of US$200 billion of American goods as part of the phase one trade deal Purchase target for manufactured goods of around US$75 billion, with China also committing to buy huge amounts of energy, agriculture and services
This story is part of an ongoing series on US-China relations, jointly produced by the South China Morning Post and POLITICO, with reporting from Asia and the United States. The trade deal to be signed this week will include pledges by China to buy US$200 billion of US goods over two years in four industries, a Trump administration official and two other sources briefed on the matter said. The target for manufactured goods purchases will be the largest, worth around US$75 billion. [size=1.142857142857143]China will also promise to buy US$50 billion worth of energy, US$40 billion in agriculture and US$35 billion to US$40 billion in services, the three people said. On Monday night, meanwhile, the United States removed China from a [size=1.142857142857143]list of currency manipulators , a sign that the relationship between the world’s two largest economies was thawing slightly in the lead up to the signing of the phase
“In this context, Treasury has determined that China should no longer be designated as a currency manipulator at this time,” the US Treasury Department said.
Upon the announcement of the phase one deal in December, China also secured some tariff relief, with Washington cancelling tariffs that were due to come into force on December 15, and halving a 15 per cent tariff on US$120 billion worth of Chinese goods. However, 25 per cent tariffs on US$250 billion worth of Chinese goods remain in place.
Analysts have speculated for weeks about the purchases China could make in these sectors. “Energy products are specifically mentioned in the section on ‘Expanding Trade’ in the fact sheet produced by the [Office of the United States Trade Representative] on December 13, 2019,” said Moody’s Analytics chief Asia-Pacific economist Steve Cochrane. “So it seems like a good possibility to be included in the details of the phase one agreement to be signed on Wednesday.” US exports of crude oil and related products have fallen considerably since the trade war started, he added. During the four months of July-October 2019, the latest data available from the US Energy Information Agency, exports averaged about 7.2 million barrels per month, or about half the volume during the same period of 2017.
Questions remain about whether China can double its agricultural purchases from about US$20 billion in 2016, before the trade war began, to US$40 billion, as the Trump administration is touting.
But Rosa Wang, Shanghai-based analyst at agricultural data provider JCI China, said that she was “quite confident” that China could meet the targets. She suggested that most of the expenditure would be on soybeans, followed by smaller purchases of nuts and fruits, pork, poultry, corn, sorghum and ethanol by-products.
US and China reach ‘phase-one’ trade deal
The deal will bolster intellectual property protection, and also has chapters on forced technology transfer, currency, and market access to key sectors in the Chinese economy, including financial services It will contain an enforcement provision, through which the US will be unilaterally be able to reimpose tariffs should China not hold to its commitments, including the purchase agreements. White House trade adviser Peter Navarro said in an interview with US broadcaster NPR on Monday that the enforcement mechanism permits US trade representative Robert Lighthizer to reimpose tariffs within a 90-day period. If [Lighthizer] thinks that hasn’t been addressed properly, we have [the right to impose a] proportionate response and the Chinese have promised not to retaliatePeter Navarro
“And if he thinks that hasn't been addressed properly, we have [the right to impose a] proportionate response and the Chinese have promised not to retaliate,” said Navarro. Finbarr Bermingham reports for the South China Morning Post from Hong Kong and Ben White and Doug Palmer report for Politico from New York and Washington, respectively.
应该是没人认为中国会structural reform。继续加税就是了。一开始美国也不敢贸然加很多，不知道会对美国经济造成什么样的影响。现在两年过去，基本上看清楚了，引用wsj的话说就是：Trade War With China Took Toll on U.S., but Not Big OneEconomic data shows limited damage from tariffs, though it might take years to see full Impact。 要知道贸易战刚开始的时候，媒体一片哀嚎，隔三差五就说recession要来了，消费者要每年多付800刀了。。。。其实现在就业这么好，美国人就算多付800刀也没压力，何况没付这么多， 就看cpi也才2.3% （去年12月）。
然后呢？数据分析呢？与美国之间的贸易情形呢？ －－trade war with Beijing reduced the U.S.’s trade deficit with China last year, although Chinese manufacturers still export far more to the U.S. than vice versa. －－Chinese customs data on Tuesday showed that the country had a trade surplus with the U.S. of $295.8 billion last year, compared with a record $323.3 billion in 2018. The figures represent China’s first full year of trade data since the trade war began. －－China’s 12.5% decline in exports to the U.S. last year would have narrowed the U.S. deficit more
然后呢？数据分析呢？与美国之间的贸易情形呢？ －－trade war with Beijing reduced the U.S.’s trade deficit with China last year, although Chinese manufacturers still export far more to the U.S. than vice versa. －－Chinese customs data on Tuesday showed that the country had a trade surplus with the U.S. of $295.8 billion last year, compared with a record $323.3 billion in 2018. The figures represent China’s first full year of trade data since the trade war began. －－China’s 12.5% decline in exports to the U.S. last year would have narrowed the U.S. deficit more
回复 1楼Puma2019的帖子 Breaking News China Tariffs to Stay Put Until After U.S. Election Despite Deal Jenny Leonard, Saleha Mohsin and Shawn Donnan January 14, 2020, 1:39 PM EST Updated on January 14, 2020, 2:01 PM EST A container ship, right, sits anchored at the Yantian International Container Terminals in Shenzhen. A container ship, right, sits anchored at the Yantian International Container Terminals in Shenzhen. Photographer: Qilai Shen/Bloomberg Existing tariffs on billions of dollars of Chinese goods coming into the U.S. are likely to stay in place until after the American presidential election, and any move to reduce them will hinge on Beijing’s compliance with the terms of a phase-one trade accord, people familiar with the matter said, Bloomberg News reports. The two sides have an understanding that no sooner than 10 months after the signing of the agreement at the White House Wednesday, the U.S. will review progress and potentially trim tariffs now in place on $360 billion of imports from China, the people said, declining to be identified because the matter is private. The period of review, which is not expected to be specified in the deal’s text, is intended to give the Trump administration time to verify the Asian nation’s adherence to the terms of the pact. Officials have said before they will release the text of the 86-page agreement in conjunction with the signing and denied that there’s a plan to cut duties further. “The only non-public component of the agreement is a confidential annex with detailed purchase amounts, which has been previously described,” U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in a joint emailed response to questions. “There are no other oral or written agreements between the U.S. and China on these matters, and there is no agreement for future reduction in tariffs.” More information is available on the Bloomberg Terminal.
Breaking News China Tariffs to Stay Put Until After U.S. Election Despite Deal Jenny Leonard, Saleha Mohsin and Shawn Donnan January 14, 2020, 1:39 PM EST Updated on January 14, 2020, 2:01 PM EST A container ship, right, sits anchored at the Yantian International Container Terminals in Shenzhen. A container ship, right, sits anchored at the Yantian International Container Terminals in Shenzhen. Photographer: Qilai Shen/Bloomberg Existing tariffs on billions of dollars of Chinese goods coming into the U.S. are likely to stay in place until after the American presidential election, and any move to reduce them will hinge on Beijing’s compliance with the terms of a phase-one trade accord, people familiar with the matter said, Bloomberg News reports.
The two sides have an understanding that no sooner than 10 months after the signing of the agreement at the White House Wednesday, the U.S. will review progress and potentially trim tariffs now in place on $360 billion of imports from China, the people said, declining to be identified because the matter is private.
The period of review, which is not expected to be specified in the deal’s text, is intended to give the Trump administration time to verify the Asian nation’s adherence to the terms of the pact.
Officials have said before they will release the text of the 86-page agreement in conjunction with the signing and denied that there’s a plan to cut duties further.
“The only non-public component of the agreement is a confidential annex with detailed purchase amounts, which has been previously described,” U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in a joint emailed response to questions. “There are no other oral or written agreements between the U.S. and China on these matters, and there is no agreement for future reduction in tariffs.”
More information is available on the Bloomberg Terminal. Puma2019 发表于 1/14/2020 2:29:01 PM
halving a 15 per cent tariff on US$120 billion worth of Chinese goods
AbeLoveMe 发表于 1/14/2020 3:15:21 PM
原文这个地方我有点迷惑：Existing tariffs on billions of dollars of Chinese goods coming into the U.S. are likely to stay in place until after the American presidential election, and any move to reduce them will hinge on Beijing’s compliance with the terms of a phase-one trade accord, people familiar with the matter said. 之前是说签协议的时候1200E减一半。现在这里说“任何减税的举动取决于北京对协议的达成情况”，我不知道这个“任何减税”包括还是不包括之前说的1200E减一半。。。。看了全文，似乎是在说在美国审查北京执行情况之前，关税保持不动
原文这个地方我有点迷惑：Existing tariffs on billions of dollars of Chinese goods coming into the U.S. are likely to stay in place until after the American presidential election, and any move to reduce them will hinge on Beijing’s compliance with the terms of a phase-one trade accord, people familiar with the matter said. 之前是说签协议的时候1200E减一半。现在这里说“任何减税的举动取决于北京对协议的达成情况”，我不知道这个“任何减税”包括还是不包括之前说的1200E减一半。。。。看了全文，似乎是在说在美国审查北京执行情况之前，关税保持不动
应该是没人认为中国会structural reform。继续加税就是了。一开始美国也不敢贸然加很多，不知道会对美国经济造成什么样的影响。现在两年过去，基本上看清楚了，引用wsj的话说就是：Trade War With China Took Toll on U.S., but Not Big OneEconomic data shows limited damage from tariffs, though it might take years to see full Impact。 要知道贸易战刚开始的时候，媒体一片哀嚎，隔三差五就说recession要来了，消费者要每年多付800刀了。。。。其实现在就业这么好，美国人就算多付800刀也没压力，何况没付这么多， 就看cpi也才2.3% （去年12月）。
Sources confirm that China has committed to making large scale purchases of US$200 billion of American goods as part of the phase one trade deal
Purchase target for manufactured goods of around US$75 billion, with China also committing to buy huge amounts of energy, agriculture and services
Finbarr Bermingham, Ben White, Doug Palmer Published: 8:37am, 14 Jan, 2020
This story is part of an ongoing series on US-China relations, jointly produced by the South China Morning Post and POLITICO, with reporting from Asia and the United States.
The trade deal to be signed this week will include pledges by China to buy US$200 billion of US goods over two years in four industries, a Trump administration official and two other sources briefed on the matter said.
The target for manufactured goods purchases will be the largest, worth around US$75 billion. [size=1.142857142857143]China will also promise to buy
US$50 billion worth of energy, US$40 billion in agriculture and US$35 billion to US$40 billion in services, the three people said.
On Monday night, meanwhile, the United States removed China from a [size=1.142857142857143]list of currency manipulators
, a sign that the relationship between the world’s two largest economies was thawing slightly in the lead up to the signing of the phase
“In this context, Treasury has determined that China should no longer be designated as a currency manipulator at this time,” the US Treasury Department said.
Upon the announcement of the phase one deal in December,
China also secured some tariff relief, with Washington cancelling tariffs that were due to come into force on December 15, and halving a 15 per cent tariff on US$120 billion worth of Chinese goods. However, 25 per cent tariffs on US$250 billion worth of Chinese goods remain in place.
Analysts have speculated for weeks about the purchases China could make in these sectors.
“Energy products are specifically mentioned in the section on ‘Expanding Trade’ in the fact sheet produced by the [Office of the United States Trade Representative] on December 13, 2019,” said Moody’s Analytics chief Asia-Pacific economist Steve Cochrane. “So it seems like a good possibility to be included in the details of the phase one agreement to be signed on Wednesday.”
US exports of crude oil and related products have fallen considerably since the trade war started, he added. During the four months of July-October 2019, the latest data available from the US Energy Information Agency, exports averaged about 7.2 million barrels per month, or about half the volume during the same period of 2017.
Questions remain about whether China can double its agricultural
purchases from about US$20 billion in 2016, before the trade war began, to US$40 billion, as the Trump administration is touting.
But Rosa Wang, Shanghai-based analyst at agricultural data provider JCI China, said that she was “quite confident” that China could meet the targets. She suggested that most of the expenditure would be on soybeans, followed by smaller purchases of nuts and fruits, pork, poultry, corn, sorghum and ethanol by-products.
US and China reach ‘phase-one’ trade deal
The deal will bolster intellectual property protection, and also has chapters on forced technology transfer, currency, and market access to key sectors in the Chinese economy, including financial services
It will contain an enforcement provision, through which the US will be unilaterally be able to reimpose tariffs should China not hold to its commitments, including the purchase agreements.
White House trade adviser Peter Navarro said in an interview with US broadcaster NPR on Monday that the enforcement mechanism permits US trade representative Robert Lighthizer to reimpose tariffs within a 90-day period.
If [Lighthizer] thinks that hasn’t been addressed properly, we have [the right to impose a] proportionate response and the Chinese have promised not to retaliatePeter Navarro
“And if he thinks that hasn't been addressed properly, we have [the right to impose a] proportionate response and the Chinese have promised not to retaliate,” said Navarro.
Finbarr Bermingham reports for the South China Morning Post from Hong Kong and Ben White and Doug Palmer report for Politico from New York and Washington, respectively.
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这些肯定是勾兑的，
还不如买意大利醋
早先并非老美蠢 而是巨富要享受廉价劳动力所促成的协议 对老百姓来说是短期有利长期无益
你就看到猪肉水果？美帝的农业厉害大家不知道吗？否则也不至于要中国大量买，又给农民补贴我说的是美国加的关税目前暂时企业给吸收了，而不是中国降低出口价格，今天WSJ的报道
这个你要去怼amazon 同理 阿里巴巴也让国内实体店关门
🛋️ 沙发板凳
真逗！
川普厉害了，真做到了让美国再次伟大，方方面面都是，大赞👍
这是第一回合。川普从贸易战开始就张弛有度，完美的阐释了art of deal, 到现在已经完全确立了谈判中的upper hand.
第二回合中，最核心的议题是国企。我不认为在那个问题上中国有任何妥协的可能。我们拭目以待
不错。必然引发骨牌效应。
下一个看点是欧盟和东盟（尤其是越南）的反应
卖不了那么多波音
你多久没看贸易数据了？这几个月的降幅都很大
第一阶段协议，是习近平在不影响自身地位的前提下，签订的最大限度的卖国协议。
通过出让中国利益，贿赂美国、贿赂川普，保证自己能顺利连任，坐实无任期限制。
第二阶段的项目，招招致命，直指共产党的根基，蠢猪如习近平也是不会签的。
那时候基本上也是到了川普第二任结束，后面的总统，未必愿意杀鸡取卵，估计也就是在第一阶段协议的基础上修修补补，再榨一点油水。
刘中堂应该是要被借人头了。今天wsj一篇文章回顾了美中是如何走到这一步的，可以读一How the U.S. and China Settled on a Trade Deal Neither Wantedhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/how-the-u-s-and-china-settled-on-a-trade-deal-neither-wanted-11578931635
How the U.S. and China Settled on a Trade Deal Neither WantedThe world’s two largest economies will sign a compromise Wednesday that calms their trade war—here’s the back storyHow the U.S. and China Settled on a Trade Deal Neither WantedThe world’s two largest economies will sign a compromise Wednesday that calms their trade war—here’s the back story
医疗器械，航发？
她在嘲讽。其实国内一直在隐瞒是真的，我朋友让我给他update每一步的新消息，然后他发现，几乎所有重要的信息，中文媒体都没有说细节。。。。
已经借了王志民的人头了 刘杰毅估计也不保 再借刘鹤的人头 包子以后就坐井观天中南海吧 没人再会替他卖命了
嗯，川普还没搂起袖子秀肌肉呢💪，只是嘴皮子吧嗒推一下，世界格局就要变了
想了一想，还是不贴数据了。不想浪费时间跟装睡着的人说
川普早就放风说马上开始第二阶段。
早先不遵守wto条款，每年从美国赚4000E左右顺差的时候，“双赢”精神去哪里了？现在老川的态度基本就是：“世界赚6，美国赚1，不行；世界降3，美国降1，这个可以有”
总值31.54万亿！2019年我国外贸进出口、出口、进口均创新高 今天上午，国务院新闻办召开新闻发布会，海关总署公布了2019年我国外贸进出口相关情况。2019年我国外贸进出口总值31.54万亿元人民币，同比增长3.4%，其中，出口17.23万亿元，增长5%；进口14.31万亿元，增长1.6%；贸易顺差2.92万亿元，扩大25.4%。全年进出口、出口、进口均创历史新高。
请继续。反正wsj是付费杂志，不知道你那5毛舍不舍得花来看。就不贴了
早先是老美蠢呗，中国就蒙混过关，现在老美智商上线了，中国就收敛些。要想不被人占便宜，还得靠自己精明， 不能指望别人不欺负傻子
川普的谈判手段之一。
如果不开始谈第二阶段，那么中共刚承认的第一阶段协议，就会马上开始拖延耍赖。
现在谈第二阶段，意思是厉害的还在后面，
那么中国虽然会在第二阶段打太极，但在第一阶段协议的具体执行上配合服从美国。
但真要谈第二阶段，也谈不出实质性的东西，中国的基本经济结构不可能变。
比如你要中共不补贴国企、不让红二代捞金吸血，而坐视私企壮大、分自己的权，可能么？
中共宁可打核大战，十几亿人全死光，也不可能这么放权的。
应该是没人认为中国会structural reform。继续加税就是了。一开始美国也不敢贸然加很多，不知道会对美国经济造成什么样的影响。现在两年过去，基本上看清楚了，引用wsj的话说就是：Trade War With China Took Toll on U.S., but Not Big OneEconomic data shows limited damage from tariffs, though it might take years to see full Impact。 要知道贸易战刚开始的时候，媒体一片哀嚎，隔三差五就说recession要来了，消费者要每年多付800刀了。。。。其实现在就业这么好，美国人就算多付800刀也没压力，何况没付这么多， 就看cpi也才2.3% （去年12月）。
我可能比较乐观。红二代捞的钱都被美国看着，还有老婆孩子。
党国连旁边的香港都不敢动武，现在我是不指望它有胆搞核战。
不会让私企壮大，但是有可能更多的把国企把控的利益度让给外企，当然主要是美企
According to data from cpb World Trade Monitor, China’s share of global exports has reached 11.9%, slightly higher than in July 2018, when the first American tariffs hit. Sluggish imports—in part because of a domestic slowdown—mean the trade surplus is set to be about a quarter bigger in 2019 than in 2018.https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2019/12/12/trade-war-chinas-exporters-have-expanded-their-global-market-share
哈！没内衣
走，上床铺！
为了人类命运共同体
原本数据能更好，贸易战是双输。。
所以不光是中国，美国一样想签。。
你该问的是，如果贸易战那么牛X，打垮中国经济，美国屁事没有，为啥美国还要签？直接关税永久拉到100%不就结了？
然后呢？数据分析呢？与美国之间的贸易情形呢？
－－trade war with Beijing reduced the U.S.’s trade deficit with China last year, although Chinese manufacturers still export far more to the U.S. than vice versa.
－－Chinese customs data on Tuesday showed that the country had a trade surplus with the U.S. of $295.8 billion last year, compared with a record $323.3 billion in 2018. The figures represent China’s first full year of trade data since the trade war began.
－－China’s 12.5% decline in exports to the U.S. last year would have narrowed the U.S. deficit more
这世界又不是除了中国就是美国。卖给谁不是卖啊？我的问题不是中国赢了还是美国赢了，两国之间不想做生意还互相纠缠啥啊？既然分开对双方都好？
噗，人家这楼的主题说的就是美中贸易战，我不谈美国和中国谈什么。更何况，接下来美国还要和欧盟，英国谈贸易；接下去中国对欧盟英国的贸易状况也会随之而改变。至于双方为什么还要谈，两个这么大经济体之间不可能一点来往都没有；而且美国需要时间评价加税对美国的影响。美国政府不可能像ccp那样直接要求老百姓“吃草打贸易战”
为什么我回国看得到的都是吃吃喝喝，热热闹闹。国内同学一个个都比我有钱
卖给别的地方都不挣钱 这就是大问题 中国的贸易顺差 主要外汇收入都来自于出口美国
贸易战正式开战将近2年了 美国人表示情绪稳定 没有为猪肉水果涨价而烦恼
今年的朋友圈格外安静，出门旅游潇洒的人少了，听到不少裁员的消息，还在high的都是搞传销卖货的😂
医疗器械，民用航发（不一定能买到），芯片。
很大的一个可能性是把从香港间接进口的商品改为直接进口。这样香港有好日子过，嘿嘿
你是说川普被贿赂了？
从香港间接进口是有原因的 大陆直接买是买不到的
小民根本不敢讲话。。。。
之前逢年过节都是出国游，现在都是省内游。
习近平上次中途反悔，是因为签订卖国协议的时候，反对声音太大，有人要趁机倒习，不少老干部都频频露面。
所以习近平不得不摇摆，装出对外强硬的姿势，先保住自己一尊的地位，先转过身来清洗国内反弹势力。
现在国际政治局势和国内经济情况，和几个月前相比，已经是天翻地覆。
习近平能拿到上次反悔的协议，已经是谢天谢地了，所以抢着要签。
这段时间国内没啥动作啊？
年前没有什么热闹戏看，等年后看。。。。好多戏正在悄悄上演，很多喔
http://www.cac.gov.cn/2019-09/15/c_1570079205490149.htm
2019年9月16日，党刊《求是》杂志，突然全篇刊登习近平2014年的讲话，赞扬“废除中共领导干部职务终身制”
私下里几乎都要刺刀见红了。
赖小民的现金墙都出来了，这个关节可以商讨一下。 这都是糊弄国内屁民的，最大的钱肯定在欧美。
那上次说的1000多E的税从15%降到7.5%，现在就是暂时不降了？都维持原来税率？直到选举之后么？
这可把刘鹤坑死了……
为什么我觉得肉类都降价了好多
难道15号还有戏唱？
床铺老头真是睚眦必报哈 不过也不怪床铺 伊朗台湾事态发展都对美国大大有利 不多要点价就不叫商人总统了 现在急的是包子不是床铺
你是咋读的？原文里说了就是1200亿的关税降一半。
halving a 15 per cent tariff on US$120 billion worth of Chinese goods
包子开始说一月初签呢，川普不干，要等台湾大选后。包子就怂了，看这次能不能包子能不能出个男人样
原文这个地方我有点迷惑：Existing tariffs on billions of dollars of Chinese goods coming into the U.S. are likely to stay in place until after the American presidential election, and any move to reduce them will hinge on Beijing’s compliance with the terms of a phase-one trade accord, people familiar with the matter said.
之前是说签协议的时候1200E减一半。现在这里说“任何减税的举动取决于北京对协议的达成情况”，我不知道这个“任何减税”包括还是不包括之前说的1200E减一半。。。。看了全文，似乎是在说在美国审查北京执行情况之前，关税保持不动
肯定得签啊不然按川普的脾气敢一下子加到45%～刘中堂把黑锅背了吧习皇上会记你的好的
大华的五木挂面好像从$4.99跳到$7.99
谁叫包子去年临门一脚反悔让床铺难堪呢。。。。形式已经大变了 中国不签以后的条款肯定越来越苛刻哈 川总这是教土包子啥叫务实和诚意
条件越来越苛刻是肯定的，美国经济形式好，并没有因为加税大受打击。砝码也越来越多。去年5月份的时候，还没有华为什么事呢，hk也还暂时没事。。
买韩国面日本面好了
正是呢，包子啥都得让人从头教，其实应该有人教他怎么做人，不能老穿比基尼。说来也怪，这次刘鹤可真低调，来了，美国媒体没说，中国媒体也不宣传。真是姥姥不亲舅舅不爱的
能源是在之前透漏出来的协议内容的。记得去年什么时候，北京offer说可以买很多很多芯片，但是美国肯定不同意啊，光买芯片？美的你。。之后连华为都禁售了
挂面涨跟关税没啥关系吧。其实日本挂面韩国手工面都挺好吃，试试不？
前几天看文章，说是Liu这个礼拜一来，在DC呆到礼拜三签字。不过媒体现在对这事越来越冷淡了，看不到多少报道。去年都是连篇累牍的
俺也是前几天看到的，还想着不知道有没有人拿着小红旗去迎接这只鹤呢
应该和12月的那份差不多，就是这个120B的关税减半是conditional的，取决于我党的采购是否让老川满意，12月版本的细节是在签订协议后的30天，如果采购目标打成就关税减半。
其实trade war应该让美国人看清楚了，真的不会有什么问题。只要对方比你损失的多，自然周围的观众就会把你的损失补回来，这就是最实际的比烂战术。反而因为旁观者的参与效应，进来的钱比trade war损失掉的更多。更何况trade war里因为加的税，并没有真正的损失。这大概解释了为什么美股涨疯到不可理喻的高度，这就是trade war的吸金效益，这个赌盘里，全世界都买美国赢，甚至包括红N代在海外的庞大资产。
对！老头的“你降3我降1”简单粗暴，可以的。今天我一直在看美股，会不会一下子冲破3w啊，中午那阵子跌了一下，又涨了。话说我不玩股票，但是现在这样高，我有点点担心，总觉得在2.2-2.5w之间好像比较正常。但我不懂这些，不知道现在会不会有点泡沫在里头
是不是要去韩国店日本店？
不是和你说你以后政治军事的帖子少参与么？你说多了容易让人笑话