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公用马甲49
楼主 (北美华人网)
散场吧!
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TanShuDing
你平时讲英语也这个样子的?太可怕了
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TanShuDing
“ I don't think Macy's can afford losing customers like that! especially there are so many Chinese customers who spend billions of dollars here in Macy's.” 我都替你感到害臊,这种话也敢写,你平时都在和啥人交流啊?怎么讲话这么粗鲁
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xiafanle
唉。。。
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pwwq
回复 1楼公用马甲49的帖子 这英文写的, 这么没有自知之明, 楼主你的素质也很差劲👎!
懒得想
看了这个贴子。我只想到的大家常说的华人一盘散沙,窝里斗。
公用马甲49
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公用马甲32
不说烂英语,强调来强调去Chinese干嘛
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jessiez
估计没人理,通过这封信可以看出一定是楼主bully老妇人
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qas168888
太多主观的感受了,其实客观陈述一下就可以了。然后那个lesson很突兀的感觉,一般我们说training。。
懒得想
估计没人理,通过这封信可以看出一定是楼主bully老妇人

jessiez 发表于 1/8/2020 9:12:06 PM

我也是你这样想得。读信人不由自主会觉得楼主bully在先 其实老妇售后员可能是受不了楼主拽英文在先,然后一边拽英文一边爱理不理老妇的热情,老妇气不过就开始diss楼主。我猜的哦。
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pwwq
这人得多不自知能写出下面的话?

” I don't think Macy's can afford losing customers like that! especially there are so many Chinese customers who spend billions of dollars here in Macy's.”

楼主就差披着五星红星旗去吗CNMB了,

你跟那种小留基本上一个档次的,

别说华人不团结,因为总有这样的华人出来代表

Chinese来恶心人
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fitzroy
爛坑
公用马甲49
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Confuse
感觉sales可能态度是不好,但是这封信粗鲁傲慢,大概倒是不会算在那个sale身上。
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SurelyNaked
“ I don't think Macy's can afford losing customers like that! especially there are so many Chinese customers who spend billions of dollars here in Macy's.”

我都替你感到害臊,这种话也敢写,你平时都在和啥人交流啊?怎么讲话这么粗鲁
TanShuDing 发表于 1/8/2020 9:02:19 PM

Re 真辱华
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whatiget
这个英文水平....
懒得想
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excuse me? 我拽英文?所以别人跟你用英文打招呼你回英文就是爱秀?还她气不过,我是时间太多了吧?在纽约大家都很忙的!
公用马甲49 发表于 1/8/2020 9:17:08 PM

我也总是遇到亚裔服务员。人家拿不准我,会先开口英文。但是我总是会笑着问can you speak Chinese? 很多时候对方就是同胞,就算是说不好普通话的也会很热情的粤式普通话回复我,还给我送好多小样。如果是其他族的肯定会回答:“sorry,I cannt speak Chinese.” 那就继续英文交流啰
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zhangruany
. Ironically, she is a Chinese descent herself who looks down upon Mandarin speaking customers. 说实在话 就算她说粤语,也不一定就是广东香港人啊,东南亚几个国家的人好多会说粤语的吧!
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troy2011
喷楼主的都是支持香港的键盘侠,反华斗士,简直太开眼界了。这个也值得喷。

啥不说了,刚file了complain. 本想在梅西买个眼霜,这老妇售货员涌上来推荐,我也就随口用英文友好应答了。她非常pushy想让我买东西,我就说我查查review, 她看到我app有中文,就问我会不会讲广东话,我说不会,然后用普通话回复。她立马360度换了一副嘴脸,一副看不起人的状态跟我说话,非常没好气甚至是轻蔑的态度。我后来问了几个问题,她都嘲笑我怎么不知道 (比如她说这牌子当然是本土的啦!香港?哈哈哈哈)要知道牌子这么多,不知1,2个很正常,查review也很正常啊,我去。
后来file了如下,没记下名字,希望有人找她谈谈。

Hi! I am writing to report a complaint.

Store: Macy's Herald Square - Skin care & cosmetics

Counter: Origins

The Asian lady (she looks around 50 years old, about 5"3 tall, speaks cantonese and broken English, wears a pair of glasses) was very disappointing today. She works at the Origins at Macys Herald square location. On 1/8/2020 around 6pm, she approached me to sell the products. I politely talked to her in English.While I was checking the review of an eyecream on an app. She noticed that it was in Chinese and then guess what? Her attitude changed 180 degree. No smile, all despise in her eyes. Ironically, she is a Chinese descent herself who looks down upon Mandarin speaking customers. She was rushing me to buy the products and she gave a huge condescending look in a sarcastic tone such as "How come you don't know that? hahahah". I was so surprised by her and felt trapped in the store. It was very rude and unprofessional of her to do that.I am always nice to the sales but I immediately distanced myself from her after she ridiculed me a few times when I tried to ask questions about the product.

Please give her a lesson as NO DISCRIMINATION on any customers especially those from mainland and remain professional. I don't think Macy's can afford losing customers like that! especially there are so many Chinese customers who spend billions of dollars here in Macy's.

Thanks! Please follow up with me.

公用马甲49 发表于 1/8/2020 8:58:04 PM
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amberhoho
有一种女子监狱英文课作业的感觉……
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AbeLoveMe
这是楼主自己的英文?刚来的小留?
笨笨熊
felt trapped in the store。。。。。。
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yzhang20
事归事,如果楼主确实受到不好的待遇该投诉,但这多少语法错误和用词不当啊 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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chore
看了第一句话就看不下去了,这封信不会被严肃对待的。 说人家broken English。你自己的writing都broken成这样,如何让人相信你判定的英语水平是不是准确。更不用提你complain的其他方面了。
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denis_sis
太多主观的感受了,其实客观陈述一下就可以了。然后那个lesson很突兀的感觉,一般我们说training。。
qas168888 发表于 1/8/2020 9:14:45 PM
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minrui
楼主投诉是好的。这个英文也太差了把。小学三年级写这个英语都会被打死的。不然你还是直接用中文投诉好一点吧。
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gu015
楼主这是什么魔鬼啊。。。
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autofill
LZ你可以投诉,讲事,不要写一些你假设的东西。 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
翻天覆地
我的天,楼主这封信写的让人好无语,谁看了这封信都不会认为是sales有问题。
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wendy777
最有效的方法是当时直接找他们的经理投诉... 你这个投诉稿写得像是个怨妇……
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zflx
英语不好其实没什么,只要陈述的是客观事实。但是倒数第二段最后一句删了吧,不要给Chinese抹黑。
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xiaowenx
感觉sales可能态度是不好,但是这封信粗鲁傲慢,大概倒是不会算在那个sale身上。
Confuse 发表于 1/8/2020 9:17:16 PM

同感。
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cqcq
投诉信英文不好不要紧,语法错误都不要紧,只要讲事实讲要点。你不要说她BROKEN ENGLISH也不要说她LOOK DOWN你,这些让人感觉投诉的人很没事找事。你应该投诉的是你问销售客户REVIEW怎么样,销售没说,你想自己查一下,销售没给你意见还反问你怎么这点东西都不知道,请问作为销售的职责是什么?梅西是这样对待新客户的吗?ORIGIN是这么开发新客户的吗?
贵鬼
LZ这封投诉信已经发出去了吗? ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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cqcq
纽约的确很多华人销售对内地人很无力粗鲁,很多粤语的对普通话的粗鲁,上海的(北上广只有上海人特别明显)对其他城市来的人一副高傲,但他们其实就是SALES,一方面架子放不下来,好像自己特别高贵,只配得上TOP3的中国客户,其他的所有客户都不放在眼里,然而受业绩所迫,又得开口向非TOP3的中国客户销售产品,所以这过程里他们会扭捏,动不动流露出一股优越感。。。大家记得自己是CONSUMER,对销售不爽,是一定要投诉的,服务行业就是要消费者开心掏钱。但是,投诉的时候避免一些低级错误,一定要讲客观事实,可以稍微夸张,BROKEN ENGLISH其实在纽约销售里不是事儿,被请回来就是看中了皮而已
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SweetBerry
只用说She made you uncomfortable and you felt being disrespected。 别的这个那个乱七八糟啥都不用陈述。你又不是在找人仲裁,投诉而已。
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hnlaser
啥叫remain professional。。。。
公用马甲49
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diandian98

啥不说了,刚file了complain. 本想在梅西买个眼霜,这老妇售货员涌上来推荐,我也就随口用英文友好应答了。她非常pushy想让我买东西,我就说我查查review, 她看到我app有中文,就问我会不会讲广东话,我说不会,然后用普通话回复。她立马360度换了一副嘴脸,一副看不起人的状态跟我说话,非常没好气甚至是轻蔑的态度。我后来问了几个问题,她都嘲笑我怎么不知道 (比如她说这牌子当然是本土的啦!香港?哈哈哈哈)要知道牌子这么多,不知1,2个很正常,查review也很正常啊,我去。
后来file了如下,没记下名字,希望有人找她谈谈。

Hi! I am writing to report a complaint.

Store: Macy's Herald Square - Skin care & cosmetics

Counter: Origins

The Asian lady (she looks around 50 years old, about 5"3 tall, speaks cantonese and broken English, wears a pair of glasses) was very disappointing today. She works at the Origins at Macys Herald square location. On 1/8/2020 around 6pm, she approached me to sell the products. I politely talked to her in English.While I was checking the review of an eyecream on an app. She noticed that it was in Chinese and then guess what? Her attitude changed 180 degree. No smile, all despise in her eyes. Ironically, she is a Chinese descent herself who looks down upon Mandarin speaking customers. She was rushing me to buy the products and she gave a huge condescending look in a sarcastic tone such as "How come you don't know that? hahahah". I was so surprised by her and felt trapped in the store. It was very rude and unprofessional of her to do that.I am always nice to the sales but I immediately distanced myself from her after she ridiculed me a few times when I tried to ask questions about the product.

Please give her a lesson as NO DISCRIMINATION on any customers especially those from mainland and remain professional. I don't think Macy's can afford losing customers like that! especially there are so many Chinese customers who spend billions of dollars here in Macy's.

Thanks! Please follow up with me.

公用马甲49 发表于 1/8/2020 8:58:04 PM


你平时上班么?这英语,,,
美美的甜蜜
这写的什么呢?!找人帮忙重写一个吧。
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Viviennedd
多简单,她换嘴脸,你换人帮你拿东西结账。
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zhikantie
她不行,你的素质也够低的,英文写的很烂.
回复3楼 TanShuDing 的帖子 该害臊的人是她不是我。我够文明的了,没有make a scene. 公用马甲49 发表于 1/8/2020 9:08:00 PM
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zhikantie
就是,她自己的英语才是broken English, 而且写的话用词很粗鲁
看了第一句话就看不下去了,这封信不会被严肃对待的。 说人家broken English。你自己的writing都broken成这样,如何让人相信你判定的英语水平是不是准确。更不用提你complain的其他方面了。 chore 发表于 1/8/2020 10:03:00 PM
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huanglin82
其实楼主根本不需要点明Asian lady,Chinese lady啥的,你把时间说清楚,当班是谁一查就知道了。根据楼主的大概意思,我稍微修改一下,看看可以不:

Hello,

I'm xx, I'm writing here to share some unpleasant experience that I had with Origins sales today.

It's around 6pm when I was at Origins counter, the sales approached to me and introduced the products. While I tried to check reviews of an eyecream on my phone, she seemed not happy and her attitude changed by judging me that how come I hadn't even heard of it. I felt very uncomfortable actually and walked away without buying anything.

I just hope that every sales could keep professional by not judging a customer's knowledge about their products. After all, they're professionals.

Thanks for your time
xx.

但说实话,这种事情要投诉,也只能尽量捡相对客观的事情说,像那些什么嘲笑啊、讽刺啊,这些都太主观。另外就是,突出她的做法让你感到不舒服。篇幅上,不是很复杂的事情,不用太长,也没人有时间仔细看,把事情简单扼要说清楚就好。
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huanglin82
另外一般我们投诉,把事情说清楚就好,不太会说让别人怎么怎么做。因为具体怎么处理投诉,其实不由我们决定的,我们只管告状,对方老板来决定怎么处理这件事情的。
我喜欢帅哥
可能因为思维习惯而导致表达出来的英文差点,还有就是比较意气,不大客观的表达,我不觉得这个楼主有多大问题。受了不公对待就是投诉啊。 倒是楼里好多评论的思维习惯也好不到哪里去。专门冲着楼主的英文极尽嘲笑,没有一点的宽容对待,太刻薄了。
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Singforyou
我就只想请教一个迷思。。。销售员用英语讲叫sales吗? 我咋记得别人都是叫 sales person, salesman, sales associate 或者sales rep的呢? 就中国人sales  sales的,之前好像还看过一个视频专门纠正过这个的。 看这里英文好的也写sales, 又迷糊了,请指教 ~
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^^赵敏^^
可能因为思维习惯而导致表达出来的英文差点,还有就是比较意气,不大客观的表达,我不觉得这个楼主有多大问题。受了不公对待就是投诉啊。 倒是楼里好多评论的思维习惯也好不到哪里去。专门冲着楼主的英文极尽嘲笑,没有一点的宽容对待,太刻薄了。
我喜欢帅哥 发表于 1/9/2020 1:06:56 AM
大家都是一条船下来的lol ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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Ishadow
楼主买东西时觉得被歧视了,要投诉就投诉好了。大家能支持一下的就支持一下,不应该笑话楼主的英文。毕竟我们都不是native speakers。像上面那位层主,重新帮助楼主写一遍投诉信的行为就很赞👍!
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SurelyNaked
上面几位只看到大家嘲笑楼主英文?明明还有楼主那典型的丢人的国人价值观
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nanan
强迫症看第一行就难受上了。 File complaint啊, report complaint像是人家的compliant你要上报似的
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Kenilworth
“ I don't think Macy's can afford losing customers like that! especially there are so many Chinese customers who spend billions of dollars here in Macy's.”

我都替你感到害臊,这种话也敢写,你平时都在和啥人交流啊?怎么讲话这么粗鲁
TanShuDing 发表于 1/8/2020 9:02:19 PM


强国气息很浓,表达情感就两种方式:我买你东西!我不买你东西!
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gem
纽约的确很多华人销售对内地人很无力粗鲁,很多粤语的对普通话的粗鲁,上海的(北上广只有上海人特别明显)对其他城市来的人一副高傲,但他们其实就是SALES,一方面架子放不下来,好像自己特别高贵,只配得上TOP3的中国客户,其他的所有客户都不放在眼里,然而受业绩所迫,又得开口向非TOP3的中国客户销售产品,所以这过程里他们会扭捏,动不动流露出一股优越感。。。大家记得自己是CONSUMER,对销售不爽,是一定要投诉的,服务行业就是要消费者开心掏钱。但是,投诉的时候避免一些低级错误,一定要讲客观事实,可以稍微夸张,BROKEN ENGLISH其实在纽约销售里不是事儿,被请回来就是看中了皮而已
cqcq 发表于 1/8/2020 11:03:23 PM


上了华人觉得纽约真是个神奇的地方,做Sales的鄙视顾客群,然后餐馆偷着收双倍小费,追骂顾客讨要小费什么的,真是各种匪夷所思。看了后觉得我们大洛杉矶真是文明城市啊,我真是从没见过这样的。看来乱说小费的贴,这阵子我出门吃饭还特别注意账单上有没有被加了小费,结果一次都没有发现。
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demantoid
awkward! lz 写的一点都不professional还guess what?而且这个态度真是很。。。BTW,我觉得lz就算写中文也高级不到哪儿去
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Maple2316
楼主,求你了别再给中国人脸上抹黑了,这样的中国人不当也罢。怎么有这么多的国人这么无礼和无知,这个世界在中国土豪出来买东西之前都挺好的啊。楼主告诉你一声:they can afford losing customers like you. 你忒不把自己当外人了,呵呵
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hcrab
awkward! lz 写的一点都不professional还guess what?而且这个态度真是很。。。BTW,我觉得lz就算写中文也高级不到哪儿去
demantoid 发表于 1/9/2020 1:16:28 PM


这样的措辞和逻辑,用中文表达一样素质很低
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zicklingrad
这写的什么呢?!找人帮忙重写一个吧。
美美的甜蜜 发表于 1/8/2020 11:59:34 PM


I would suggest:

Dear Macy’s Customer Relations,
I am writing to share my concern about an interaction I had today at your Herald Square location.

At about 6PM the salesperson at the Origins counter approached me to try to sell some products. When she saw me use a Chinese app to check reviews for the products, her attitude changed. I asked her some questions about the products, but she mocked my questions and asked how I could not know the answers.

I don’t think her behavior was professional and I don’t think customers of any background should be made to feel uncomfortable.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
ABCDEFG