真的假的 苏勒曼尼是被骗去和谈诱杀的,美国太厉害了

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Huadajiyin
楼主 (北美华人网)
伊拉克总理说,特朗普和沙特给他电话,让他去调节与伊朗的紧张关系,于是他邀请了苏莱曼尼访问伊拉克。他说:我原本是要与苏莱曼尼被杀的那个早上见面的,他是来传达来自伊朗方面的回应,这个回应是针对沙特和美国缓和局势方面的。

这个消息,英国的BBC也进行了确认,一是特朗普确实给伊拉克总理打过电话,要求调解美国与伊朗的关系,二是苏莱曼尼来伊拉克,是为了回应调解。

那么,苏莱曼尼实际上是来伊拉克进行和谈的,但是美国和沙特将他骗到了伊拉克,再把他给暗杀了。

因此,实际上这是一场惊天大骗局,是一场惊天大诱杀,特朗普要求伊拉克总理邀请苏莱曼尼来访伊拉克,很可能就是一场骗局,是一个陷阱,目的就是为了对他进行暗杀。

之前,国际社会都非常疑惑,作为中东间谍之王,为什么会坐民航飞机来到伊拉克巴格达国际机场,而且还有车队迎接他,这很容易暴露,也容易被人盯上,现在就可以解释清楚了,因为这是伊拉克总理应美国要求,邀请对方来伊拉克进行的一次和谈

而伊拉克总理迈赫迪和苏莱曼尼的通话,美国早就掌握了,因此要进行跟踪和暗杀,也就是很容易的事情,无人机在巴格达国际机场附近七千米的上空早已盘旋了数个小时,这就是一场早就布局好的暗杀。
就连一直对伊朗非常痛恨的以色列,也对这件事情与美国划清界限,以色列总理内塔尼亚胡对外公开表示,谋杀苏莱曼尼是一件彻彻底底美国的事情,以色列要防止自己卷入。
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Jimatssf

出访需要用假护照乘坐民航?
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xiafanle
厉害国谣言,全国都是专干这行的
驫龘麤靐
不太可能吧,当年美帝杀山本56以后,都一直遮遮掩掩伪装成碰巧了,就是觉得这种暗杀行为上不得台面。
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aiyamayayongle
反正已经死了,就让死人再为组织做一次贡献吧。
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dotmm
今天果然谣言满天飞呀,就想让川普在美国抬不起头来
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9wan
好像是的。
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119ppp
不太可能吧,当年美帝杀山本56以后,都一直遮遮掩掩伪装成碰巧了,就是觉得这种暗杀行为上不得台面。
驫龘麤靐 发表于 1/8/2020 10:07:01 AM

????我觉得华人就这一点不好,没法follow某用户。。。我一直以为山本死是意外。。。去查了一下才知道居然是被美军打掉的。。。
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overpower
回复 4楼驫龘麤靐的帖子 白头盔创始人,原军情六处特工被发现从阳台上摔死。 连维基百科都写他是被杀。 西方人的手段只能骗骗华人了
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mangooo26
狗屁不通的分析
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qiuzi101
这种暗杀行为上不得台面
扶苏
最烦说暗杀的。暗杀是CIA的活,这次是军事行动,不管同意美国还是不同意美国的观点,至少美国是光明正大法办了这个将军。 现在某些主流媒体已经失智到用词不清了。
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faceegbdf
最烦说暗杀的。暗杀是CIA的活,这次是军事行动,不管同意美国还是不同意美国的观点,至少美国是光明正大法办了这个将军。

现在某些主流媒体已经失智到用词不清了。
扶苏 发表于 1/8/2020 10:54:47 AM

都是聪明人,全世界的媒体,各国领导人、美国政府都用“Assassination”这个词,不知道“Assassination”是什么意思可以上谷歌搜索,美国盟友以色列总理在推特说那是美国的“Assassination”,和以色列无关。
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aiyamayayongle
说起来波斯人也是玩暗杀的老手了,结果自己的大将军被人光天化日之下当众暗杀了……
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chillywind

都是聪明人,全世界的媒体,各国领导人、美国政府都用“Assassination”这个词,不知道“Assassination”是什么意思可以上谷歌搜索,美国盟友以色列总理在推特说那是美国的“Assassination”,和以色列无关。

faceegbdf 发表于 1/8/2020 11:32:26 AM

assassination是暗杀?你们左逼学学英语吧
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znes
暗杀?没人认的才是暗杀吧,老川不是光明正大的承认下的命令
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huaren_ID
“伊拉克总理说,特朗普和沙特给他电话,让他去调节与伊朗的紧张关系,于是他邀请了苏莱曼尼访问伊拉克。

要骗也是伊拉克总理骗他去的。。。
扶苏

都是聪明人,全世界的媒体,各国领导人、美国政府都用“Assassination”这个词,不知道“Assassination”是什么意思可以上谷歌搜索,美国盟友以色列总理在推特说那是美国的“Assassination”,和以色列无关。

faceegbdf 发表于 1/8/2020 11:32:26 AM

也就CNN,NBC之类的在官宣吧。明明就是军事行动,非说的很暗戳戳。本 拉登那时候怎么不用这个词?
云野
这也太假了吧
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faceegbdf

assassination是暗杀?你们左逼学学英语吧

chillywind 发表于 1/8/2020 11:46:42 AM

笑死了文盲还叫人家学英语,bin Laden时全世界说是killing或hunt,伊朗这次全世界说是assassination,当人家主流媒体和各国领导人傻的。
吃鸡蛋
kao, 这个要是真的,米帝太无耻了

bin laden当时头上是有FBI悬赏,好像25米,全世界的人知道米帝要搞死他

不是说这个将军是好东西,问题是你要他死,就光明正大要他死,不能用和谈的方式骗人去然后炸死你

这种大概是毒贩黑帮的做法
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fibril
一直号称是密码本被破译。其实说不定有间谍在日本高层
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riveroam
今天果然谣言满天飞呀,就想让川普在美国抬不起头来
dotmm 发表于 1/8/2020 10:30:17 AM


就是五毛集体出动了,各种分分出来秀下限
人在美国,对美伊冲突却只能拿厉害国的微信版新闻出来,这也是特色了
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xianbaihe


就是五毛集体出动了,各种分分出来秀下限
人在美国,对美伊冲突却只能拿厉害国的微信版新闻出来,这也是特色了

riveroam 发表于 1/8/2020 12:52:56 PM

Re! 不过这儿真正的华人没人是傻子,谁信啊。
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namamae

Re! 不过这儿真正的华人没人是傻子,谁信啊。

xianbaihe 发表于 1/8/2020 2:35:37 PM


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7854971/Soleimani-Iraq-discuss-escalating-tensions-Saudis-killed-PM-says.htmlIraqi prime minister says Qassem Soleimani was in Iraq to 'discuss de-escalating tensions between Iran and Saudis' when he was killed - and claims Trump had asked for help mediating talks after embassy attack”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/body-of-commander-slain-by-us-strike-arrives-in-iran-to-crowds-of-mourners/2020/01/05/4ca3281a-2f17-11ea-bffe-020c88b3f120_story.html ‘Abdul Mahdi suggested Sunday that Iran and the Saudis had been engaged in dialogue to tamp down their feud, with Iraq playing the role of mediator. Abdul Mahdi said he had been expecting to meet with Soleimani on the day he was killed. “He came to deliver me a message from Iran, responding to the message we delivered from Saudi Arabia to Iran,” the prime minister said, without providing details.’
https://www.timesofisrael.com/iraqi-pm-us-said-israel-bombed-pro-iran-militias-in-iraq/ ‘“The killing of Soleimani was a political assassination,” Abdel Mahdi said, adding that the Iranian general was scheduled to meet him the next morning about relations with Saudi Arabia.’
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/iraqis-vote-to-expel-u-s-as-soleimani-fallout-worsens.html ‘In his comments on Sunday, Prime Minister Abdel Mahdi decried the U.S. strike as illegal and defended Soleimani, claiming that the Iranian general was his guest and that they had planned to meet on the morning he was killed to go over a Saudi proposal to defuse tensions. He also said that before the drone strike, Trump had called him to request he help mediate the conflict with Iran.’
https://time.com/5759101/iraqi-parliament-vote-for-us-withdrawal/ ‘Mahdi said President Donald Trump called him and asked him to mediate with Iran even as the American president was secretly ordering Soleimani’s killing. Mahdi also said he was set to meet Soleimani, who was carrying a response to an initiative from Saudi Arabia intended to deescalate tensions.’
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namamae
不太可能吧,当年美帝杀山本56以后,都一直遮遮掩掩伪装成碰巧了,就是觉得这种暗杀行为上不得台面。
驫龘麤靐 发表于 1/8/2020 10:07:01 AM


Trump doesn't play by the rules...
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letgogogo
回复 1楼Huadajiyin的帖子 憋了几天,憋出来这个
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namamae
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/body-of-commander-slain-by-us-strike-arrives-in-iran-to-crowds-of-mourners/2020/01/05/4ca3281a-2f17-11ea-bffe-020c88b3f120_story.html ‘Abdul Mahdi suggested Sunday that Iran and the Saudis had been engaged in dialogue to tamp down their feud, with Iraq playing the role of mediator. Abdul Mahdi said he had been expecting to meet with Soleimani on the day he was killed. “He came to deliver me a message from Iran, responding to the message we delivered from Saudi Arabia to Iran,” the prime minister said, without providing details.’
https://www.timesofisrael.com/iraqi-pm-us-said-israel-bombed-pro-iran-militias-in-iraq/ ‘“The killing of Soleimani was a political assassination,” Abdel Mahdi said, adding that the Iranian general was scheduled to meet him the next morning about relations with Saudi Arabia.’
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/iraqis-vote-to-expel-u-s-as-soleimani-fallout-worsens.html ‘In his comments on Sunday, Prime Minister Abdel Mahdi decried the U.S. strike as illegal and defended Soleimani, claiming that the Iranian general was his guest and that they had planned to meet on the morning he was killed to go over a Saudi proposal to defuse tensions. He also said that before the drone strike, Trump had called him to request he help mediate the conflict with Iran.’
https://time.com/5759101/iraqi-parliament-vote-for-us-withdrawal/ ‘Mahdi said President Donald Trump called him and asked him to mediate with Iran even as the American president was secretly ordering Soleimani’s killing. Mahdi also said he was set to meet Soleimani, who was carrying a response to an initiative from Saudi Arabia intended to deescalate tensions.’

namamae 发表于 1/8/2020 2:42:20 PM


https://www.npr.org/2020/01/05/793746580/iraqi-parliament-votes-to-expel-u-s-troops-from-country-in-wake-of-soleimani-str
“Earlier, Abdul-Mahdi said Trump called him to ask for help in mediating with Iran after the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad was attacked.”

NPR, Washington Post, 时代周刊。。。这些媒体的报导如何?你们倒是继续洗地啊。。一个个只知道屁股决定脑袋,半点基本思维能力都没有。。。。
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express77


https://www.npr.org/2020/01/05/793746580/iraqi-parliament-votes-to-expel-u-s-troops-from-country-in-wake-of-soleimani-str
“Earlier, Abdul-Mahdi said Trump called him to ask for help in mediating with Iran after the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad was attacked.”

NPR, Washington Post, 时代周刊。。。这些媒体的报导如何?你们倒是继续洗地啊。。一个个只知道屁股决定脑袋,半点基本思维能力都没有。。。。


namamae 发表于 1/8/2020 2:53:04 PM


Washington post 还在被告造假新闻进行中呢,NPR更是呵呵呵。这个ID很恶心,又是个同时爱民主党和极权的分裂
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jiangyoudang17
华人屁股歪到月球上去了 这个消息是伊拉克高层先说的,美国表兄英国媒体先报道的。一些华人大妈闭着眼睛说我不看,我不看,不是真的。
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namamae
Washington post 还在被告造假新闻进行中呢,NPR更是呵呵呵。这个ID很恶心,又是个同时爱民主党和极权的分裂
express77 发表于 1/8/2020 2:59:33 PM


就因为不符合你的观点,管他是英国还是美国还是以色列媒体,管他是Washington Post, NPR, 时代周刊,一概都不信?

这智商。。。说脑子没进水都没人信。。。
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forestgreen
国内这种小道消息传的也是服了。
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namamae
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7854971/Soleimani-Iraq-discuss-escalating-tensions-Saudis-killed-PM-says.htmlIraqi prime minister says Qassem Soleimani was in Iraq to 'discuss de-escalating tensions between Iran and Saudis' when he was killed - and claims Trump had asked for help mediating talks after embassy attack”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/body-of-commander-slain-by-us-strike-arrives-in-iran-to-crowds-of-mourners/2020/01/05/4ca3281a-2f17-11ea-bffe-020c88b3f120_story.html ‘Abdul Mahdi suggested Sunday that Iran and the Saudis had been engaged in dialogue to tamp down their feud, with Iraq playing the role of mediator. Abdul Mahdi said he had been expecting to meet with Soleimani on the day he was killed. “He came to deliver me a message from Iran, responding to the message we delivered from Saudi Arabia to Iran,” the prime minister said, without providing details.’
https://www.timesofisrael.com/iraqi-pm-us-said-israel-bombed-pro-iran-militias-in-iraq/ ‘“The killing of Soleimani was a political assassination,” Abdel Mahdi said, adding that the Iranian general was scheduled to meet him the next morning about relations with Saudi Arabia.’
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/iraqis-vote-to-expel-u-s-as-soleimani-fallout-worsens.html ‘In his comments on Sunday, Prime Minister Abdel Mahdi decried the U.S. strike as illegal and defended Soleimani, claiming that the Iranian general was his guest and that they had planned to meet on the morning he was killed to go over a Saudi proposal to defuse tensions. He also said that before the drone strike, Trump had called him to request he help mediate the conflict with Iran.’
https://time.com/5759101/iraqi-parliament-vote-for-us-withdrawal/ ‘Mahdi said President Donald Trump called him and asked him to mediate with Iran even as the American president was secretly ordering Soleimani’s killing. Mahdi also said he was set to meet Soleimani, who was carrying a response to an initiative from Saudi Arabia intended to deescalate tensions.’
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/05/793746580/iraqi-parliament-votes-to-expel-u-s-troops-from-country-in-wake-of-soleimani-str
“Earlier, Abdul-Mahdi said Trump called him to ask for help in mediating with Iran after the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad was attacked.”
namamae 发表于 1/8/2020 2:42:20 PM


再给几个无知的家伙扫个盲。。

In the context of war, perfidy is a form of deception in which one side promises to act in good faith (such as by raising a flag of truce) with the intention of breaking that promise once the unsuspecting enemy is exposed (such as by coming out of cover to attack the enemy coming to take the "surrendering" prisoners into custody). Perfidy constitutes a breach of the laws of war and so is a war crime, as it degrades the protections and mutual restraints developed in the interest of all parties, combatants and civilians.

这是违反日内瓦公约的War Crime.
不过一堆屁都不懂的大妈,估计说了也白说。。。
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express77
华人屁股歪到月球上去了
这个消息是伊拉克高层先说的,美国表兄英国媒体先报道的。一些华人大妈闭着眼睛说我不看,我不看,不是真的。
jiangyoudang17 发表于 1/8/2020 3:02:35 PM


谁歪谁知道。即使这个因为伊拉克人上街抗议伊朗渗透等而递了辞职信的伊拉克总理说了苏莱曼尼去伊拉克是为了见他传递调停消息给沙特的,这个是BBC最先说的吧,哪句说明是白宫骗去的?至于什么Trump打电话求调解之类的就是上面这些媒体添加的了,不过其中有个链接现在删除了报道
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singingIris
反正也杀了,伊朗精准炸了建筑物后也认怂了,无论怎么搅合事情已经是定局。 打嘴仗一点用没用,和流氓打不能讲规则,只有打趴了以后再教育。
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Olympian
华人屁股歪到月球上去了
这个消息是伊拉克高层先说的,美国表兄英国媒体先报道的。一些华人大妈闭着眼睛说我不看,我不看,不是真的。
jiangyoudang17 发表于 1/8/2020 3:02:35 PM


你咋不说美国和沙特昨天都否定了。屁股坐哪里断定伊拉克/伊朗说的是对的?
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Kissohkiss

assassination是暗杀?你们左逼学学英语吧

chillywind 发表于 1/8/2020 11:46:42 AM

哈哈 这个好笑
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luming

assassination是暗杀?你们左逼学学英语吧

chillywind 发表于 1/8/2020 11:46:42 AM


出口成脏也是川粉特色了
跟grab by the pxxxx 偶像一致 LOL

自己查字典是不是。说军事行动的,美伊宣战了么?
大统领恨不得赶紧回谈判桌上来呢。
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luming
华人屁股歪到月球上去了
这个消息是伊拉克高层先说的,美国表兄英国媒体先报道的。一些华人大妈闭着眼睛说我不看,我不看,不是真的。
jiangyoudang17 发表于 1/8/2020 3:02:35 PM


没错,她们骂英美传统报章 fake news,居然还拉沙特否认当证据。沙特啥时候成了可信典范了?
可不是,几天前炸完,然后骨锯王子就派弟弟来联络。脑洞一下,这还真符合骨锯王子套路,正常普通理由人来了,第三国地面,只不过这次骨锯王子都不用派自家行动队 lol

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BlackQueen
楼主对暗杀这个词是不是有误解? 暗杀还大张旗鼓让全世界人都知道?
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hr717
胡扯什么,楼主不知道接机的是亲伊朗的伊拉克民兵头目吧,一起被绞杀了!美国当时是确定没有伊拉克政府高官在场才下的手。总理派民兵接机还偷偷摸摸的走货运通道?白痴谣言。
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air666
厉害国谣言,全国都是专干这行的
xiafanle 发表于 1/8/2020 10:06:41 AM


厉害国和依狼神棍一样恶心。
流木
厉害国村委会出品的老年群转文 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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ysunny
反正也杀了,伊朗精准炸了建筑物后也认怂了,无论怎么搅合事情已经是定局。 打嘴仗一点用没用,和流氓打不能讲规则,只有打趴了以后再教育。
singingIris 发表于 1/8/2020 3:40:30 PM
只有一堆小粉红心心念念伊朗怎么不跟美国打仗。 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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bluehen
如果是真的第一个跳的应该是伊朗吧,哪会轮到这些信息二道贩子。。。
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kingcj
等真像
心函
我觉得苏勒曼尼是被伊朗的第三个powerful man给取代了,只要想想整个暗杀里,谁能利益最大化?当然是取而代之的人,希望自己取代苏勒曼尼,爬上political ladder的人,这就是个conspiracy propaganda,美国Trump从中得利更多的是把impeachment的话题给带偏,混淆民众视听,从利益链里看,并不是最大的得利益者,因为美国国内其实很多人反战争反核武反中东局势复杂化
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strawberrymm
真的假的,这有的太无耻了 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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Nan519
这个词儿我查了下好像就是暗杀啊...dictionary第一条解释,不说别的,这个词儿到底啥意思啊
assassination是暗杀?你们左逼学学英语吧 chillywind 发表于 1/8/2020 11:46:00
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minrui
华人屁股歪到月球上去了
这个消息是伊拉克高层先说的,美国表兄英国媒体先报道的。一些华人大妈闭着眼睛说我不看,我不看,不是真的。
jiangyoudang17 发表于 1/8/2020 3:02:35 PM

说得你好像看得懂英文得样子。 你看了你自己贴的英文么? 和你说的是特么一回事么。
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minrui


再给几个无知的家伙扫个盲。。

In the context of war, perfidy is a form of deception in which one side promises to act in good faith (such as by raising a flag of truce) with the intention of breaking that promise once the unsuspecting enemy is exposed (such as by coming out of cover to attack the enemy coming to take the "surrendering" prisoners into custody). Perfidy constitutes a breach of the laws of war and so is a war crime, as it degrades the protections and mutual restraints developed in the interest of all parties, combatants and civilians.

这是违反日内瓦公约的War Crime.
不过一堆屁都不懂的大妈,估计说了也白说。。。

namamae 发表于 1/8/2020 3:18:27 PM


你特么看得懂你贴的东西么。 长得什么狗眼才能看出床破诱杀了你家祖宗? 据说Soleimani是在准备跟沙特和谈,你哪只眼睛看见是受美国邀请和谈的。 尼玛胡搅蛮缠也不是这么屁扯的啊。 还有一丁点廉耻没有!
Mahdi said President Donald Trump called him and asked him to mediate with Iran even as the American president was secretly ordering Soleimani’s killing. Mahdi also said he was set to meet Soleimani, who was carrying a response to an initiative from Saudi Arabia intended to deescalate tensions.

今天伊朗的发言已经把小粉红的脸扇成猪头了。

人家果然底下有和谈!
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rosetree
微博传了好几天了,当然,推崇言论自由,爱说说呗 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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plmm1234
国内流行的谣言,传到美国来了? Soleimani从叙利亚,带着真主党的将领,半夜乘飞机偷偷摸摸到了巴格达 ,这是被美国这伊拉克邀请?连伊朗官方都不敢造这个谣。当然了,粉红五毛的亲爹搞一一辈子暗杀颠覆的情报工作结果被无人机炸成肉酱,只好用这种谣言来麻醉自己。
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plmm1234

也就CNN,NBC之类的在官宣吧。明明就是军事行动,非说的很暗戳戳。本 拉登那时候怎么不用这个词?

扶苏 发表于 1/8/2020 11:51:46 AM

对于粉红五毛来说,喷川普的时候,CNN,NYT和WaPo就是天。
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ane000
一个恐怖分子,死了比活着好。