身体除脂肪外有120lb,正常吗

公用马甲40
楼主 (北美华人网)
最近测了体脂,是那种专业的,躺床上x光扫描,然后测出来除脂肪外有120lb,比别人的体重都重了,我165 咋感觉不大对呀?我应该也没啥肌肉,跑不动,跳不远,抱个娃没几分钟就腰酸背疼的
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fuzzycat
如果吃瓜群众表示正常你就不去运动了吗?
公用马甲40
跟段不锻炼没关系,只是想不通为什么会这样
贵鬼
个体不同,有些人天生脂肪就比别人高。 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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lazycat12345
你体重到底多少?
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kitty2
是bodyspec嘛,你是说lean tissue有120磅么,那fat tissue呢,貌似楼主很瘦很肌肉, 或者很胖很胖。
公用马甲40
哈哈,是很胖很胖,准备减肥,悲催的发现再减也比别人重 就是内脏,肌肉骨骼什么的加起来120lb,另外有点担心是不是水肿什么的
是bodyspec嘛,你是说lean tissue有120磅么,那fat tissue呢,貌似楼主很瘦很肌肉, 或者很胖很胖。 kitty2 发表于 1/7/2020 12:17:00 AM
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kitty2
那好像是不大对,我也165, lean tissue不到80,你不可能比我多40多磅的骨头和肌肉吧
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ljj1218
lz应该是很胖,胖子就是去脂都很重,不要问我怎么知道的。随着减重,理想情况是脂肪和去脂体重都跌,但前者跌的快很多。
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lazycat12345
捂脸说我也165,上个月刚测的除了脂肪98lb,这个真的是跟体重成正比的,只不过体重上去了,脂肪上去的更多
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lazycat12345
哈哈你真相了
lz应该是很胖,胖子就是去脂都很重,不要问我怎么知道的。随着减重,理想情况是脂肪和去脂体重都跌,但前者跌的快很多。 ljj1218 发表于 1/7/2020 1:33:00 AM
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ljj1218
捂脸说我也165,上个月刚测的除了脂肪98lb,这个真的是跟体重成正比的,只不过体重上去了,脂肪上去的更多
lazycat12345 发表于 1/7/2020 1:46:14 AM

对的,去脂的体重比较稳定,即便体重起伏很大,这个变化不算大,让你体重产生巨大变化的是脂肪。总体来说体重大,去脂体重就大。像楼主这种120减到100,如果同期保证合理饮食和运动的情况,脂肪可能减的是20磅的2/3倍。
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kitty2
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4361695/ 上面这个文献比较了测量体脂的各种方法,提到了dxa scan中身体厚度会造成脂肪测量不准,我觉得是从侧面解释了楼主的疑惑, 还提到了水肿的问题。 Dual-Energy X-ray Absorptiometry DXA is a widely used method that assesses body composition at the molecular level. Bone mineral mass and density, as well as fat and fat-free soft tissues at the whole-body and regional levels, can be assessed.4-6 One important advantage of using DXA is its ability to estimate appendicular skeletal muscle (ASM) mass by measuring the amount of LST in the arms and legs, which is mainly muscle (except for a small amount of connective tissue and skin).6,7 ASM has been widely used in the study of sarcopenia and the establishment of cut points for the definition of this syndrome.1,6,8,9 During a DXA scan, low-radiation x-rays of 2 different photon energy levels pass through the body and are identified by a photon detector that measures the amount of energy absorbed (attenuation) by soft tissue and bone at each pixel.5 Soft tissue is further subdivided into fat and LST based on the empiric attenuation of both pure fat and bone-free soft tissue.10 DXA is a quick, noninvasive, and safe method for body composition assessment, and the radiation exposure is considered small and safe for repeated measures. Moreover, DXA measures 3 body composition compartments and can provide regional estimates of these compartments. DXA is also a very precise method for quantifying body composition; its overall precision exceeds that of any other body composition methodology.11 Although results of DXA scans, particularly fat and bone estimates, are highly correlated with cadaver analysis and in vivo neutron activation analysis,4 its accuracy depends on several factors such as patient’s body thickness and size, machine calibration procedures, software version used, and the definition of regions of interest, which is operator dependent. The thickness of the body can affect DXA results.5 Increased tissue thickness (>25 cm) causes an increased attenuation of low-energy photons, causing a disproportional shift to the high-energy photons, which may lead to an underestimation of fat mass in obese patients.12 Moreover, the actual size of an individual presents a limitation for some DXA scans, as large persons are not able to easily fit inside the scan area, which is usually 60 × 197.5 cm. Nonetheless, recently developed DXA systems have expanded the limits of the DXA table so that now a patient who is morbidly obese can be accommodated. Hydration status may affect DXA accuracy because of the programmed assumption of a constant and uniform FFM hydration. Large changes in hydration (higher than 5%) can change the attenuation of fat-free soft tissue,10 causing an overestimation of the LST compartment. Nevertheless, small changes in hydration levels do not greatly alter DXA estimates.5 Finally, the inability of DXA to decipher the different types of fat (visceral, subcutaneous, and intramuscular) and LST (muscle, organs) may also represent a practical limitation of this modality in clinical settings. In addition, orthopedic implants can create artifacts that affect DXA measurements, resulting in inaccurate identification of soft-tissue parameters,13 although little is known about the overall effect of such artifacts on whole-body composition measurements.14 A major limitation of DXA is the variability of the hardware and software packages between manufacturers. This inconstancy in technology limits the ability of healthcare professionals to compare measurements between different machines and to minimize residual calibration errors.1,14 A universal calibration of DXA machines is greatly needed to advance research in the field. Despite these limitations, DXA scans have assumed an increasingly important role in clinical settings because of its decreasing cost and its availability for measuring bone density. As DXA machines are used worldwide in the assessment of osteoporosis, healthcare professional may seek its “secondary” use (ie, perform body composition assessments), provided that software and appropriate phantom calibration is available.14
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kitty2
简而言之就是,肥胖人群和水肿人群, dxa scan会给出异常高的lean tissue。
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luck2020
你体重到底多少?
lazycat12345 发表于 1/7/2020 12:11:31 AM

re 这个帖子真让人崩溃