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aliquippa
楼主 (北美华人网)
Dear Dr. Bik,
I’m writing to you in response to recent inquiries you posted with regard to mentioned studies conducted at the National Key Laboratory of Medical Immunology and Institute of Immunology at the Second Military Medical University, with me being the corresponding author.
对于您最近发表的关于在第二军医大学医学免疫学国家重点实验室和免疫学研究所进行的上述研究的询问,我写信给您,我是通讯作者。
I appreciate your interest in our work and your commitment to protecting the accuracy of scientific records and the integrity of research pursuit. They are of utmost importance to me all along as well. Upon being notified of your inquiries, I have made them our highest priority and immediately took steps to look into the concerns you raised with the team and collaborators and carefully re-examined our manuscripts and raw data and lab records. We’ll work with the relevant journal editorial office(s) immediately if our investigation indicates any risk to the highest degree of accuracy of the published records.(首要任务就是自查,如果有问题,就撤稿!)
感谢您对我们工作的兴趣以及您对保护科学记录的准确性和研究追求的完整性的承诺。一直以来,它们对我也至关重要。在收到您的询问后,我将其列为我们的首要任务,并立即采取措施调查您与团队和合作者提出的问题,并仔细地重新检查了我们的手稿,原始数据和实验室记录。如果我们的调查显示所发布记录的最高准确性存在任何风险,我们将立即与相关的期刊编辑部合作。
Based on our analyses up to this point (still ongoing) and additional feedback we received from colleagues and peers, I would like to add that I remain confident about the validity and strength of the scientific conclusions made in those publications and our work’s reproducibility. Nevertheless, there is no excuse for any lapse in supervision or laboratory leadership and the concerns you raised serve as a fresh reminder to me just how important my role and responsibility are as mentor, supervisor, and lab leader; and how I might have fallen short. I feel therefore very heavy-hearted and tremendously sorry, to my current and former students, my staff and colleagues, my peers, and the larger community. I most sincerely apologize for any oversight on my part and any inconvenience it might have caused. I’ll use this as an invaluable learning opportunity to do better not only in advancing science, but also in safeguarding the accuracy and integrity of science.
根据到目前为止的分析(仍在进行中)以及从同事和同行那里获得的其他反馈,我想补充一点,我对这些出版物中得出的科学结论的有效性和优势以及我们工作的可重复性仍然充满信心。然而,监督或实验室领导地位的任何失调都是没有借口的,您提出的疑虑再次提醒我,我作为指导者,主管和实验室领导者的角色和责任是多么重要;以及我可能无法做到的事情。因此,对于我现在和以前的学生,我的员工和同事,我的同龄人以及整个社区,我感到非常心情沉重,并感到非常抱歉。对于我的疏忽以及给您带来的不便,我深表歉意。
Yours sincerely,
Xuetao Cao
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aliquippa
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模棱两可,有问题就立刻可以甩锅给手下
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peepal
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I feel therefore very heavy-hearted and tremendously sorry, to my current and former students, my staff and colleagues, my peers, and the larger community.
这句话so 可笑,刷锅侠
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thrifty

Dear Dr. Bik,
I’m writing to you in response to recent inquiries you posted with regard to mentioned studies conducted at the National Key Laboratory of Medical Immunology and Institute of Immunology at the Second Military Medical University, with me being the corresponding author.
对于您最近发表的关于在第二军医大学医学免疫学国家重点实验室和免疫学研究所进行的上述研究的询问,我写信给您,我是通讯作者。
I appreciate your interest in our work and your commitment to protecting the accuracy of scientific records and the integrity of research pursuit. They are of utmost importance to me all along as well. Upon being notified of your inquiries, I have made them our highest priority and immediately took steps to look into the concerns you raised with the team and collaborators and carefully re-examined our manuscripts and raw data and lab records. We’ll work with the relevant journal editorial office(s) immediately if our investigation indicates any risk to the highest degree of accuracy of the published records.(首要任务就是自查,如果有问题,就撤稿!)
感谢您对我们工作的兴趣以及您对保护科学记录的准确性和研究追求的完整性的承诺。一直以来,它们对我也至关重要。在收到您的询问后,我将其列为我们的首要任务,并立即采取措施调查您与团队和合作者提出的问题,并仔细地重新检查了我们的手稿,原始数据和实验室记录。如果我们的调查显示所发布记录的最高准确性存在任何风险,我们将立即与相关的期刊编辑部合作。
Based on our analyses up to this point (still ongoing) and additional feedback we received from colleagues and peers, I would like to add that I remain confident about the validity and strength of the scientific conclusions made in those publications and our work’s reproducibility. Nevertheless, there is no excuse for any lapse in supervision or laboratory leadership and the concerns you raised serve as a fresh reminder to me just how important my role and responsibility are as mentor, supervisor, and lab leader; and how I might have fallen short. I feel therefore very heavy-hearted and tremendously sorry, to my current and former students, my staff and colleagues, my peers, and the larger community. I most sincerely apologize for any oversight on my part and any inconvenience it might have caused. I’ll use this as an invaluable learning opportunity to do better not only in advancing science, but also in safeguarding the accuracy and integrity of science.
根据到目前为止的分析(仍在进行中)以及从同事和同行那里获得的其他反馈,我想补充一点,我对这些出版物中得出的科学结论的有效性和优势以及我们工作的可重复性仍然充满信心。然而,监督或实验室领导地位的任何失调都是没有借口的,您提出的疑虑再次提醒我,我作为指导者,主管和实验室领导者的角色和责任是多么重要;以及我可能无法做到的事情。因此,对于我现在和以前的学生,我的员工和同事,我的同龄人以及整个社区,我感到非常心情沉重,并感到非常抱歉。对于我的疏忽以及给您带来的不便,我深表歉意。
Yours sincerely,
Xuetao Cao

aliquippa 发表于 11/17/2019 9:22:35 PM


垃圾,东拉西扯,一片文章出问题你说你不清楚,这么多文章出问题,居然还要推卸责任。

换成别的韩国日本的教授,估计早自杀了
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SurelyNaked
好丢人的回应
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Sioux
见过不要脸的,但是没见过这么不要脸的。
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iloveGelato
我同学当年毕业去了南开,后来没事聊天的时候说她们系从内蒙古一个什么学院新引进了一个教授,本来其研究成果和职称不符合引进标准,结果人家用一年的时间飞快搞定了N篇核心期刊加正高职称,顺利成为南开教授,尽管这职称并不是在南开评上的。
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Luckysky
曹当年的飞升 颇为传奇
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nicho
没有任何实质性的回答
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shoeholic
真能甩锅啊。我的错只是没有监督好没做为一个好领导和好mentor
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zatoichi888
爆料曹的pubpeer网站已经被hack了,哎!现在怎么都上不去了!
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patx2449
曹当年的飞升 颇为传奇
Luckysky 发表于 11/17/2019 11:39:23 PM

不传奇,国内八九后走了很大一批高校的青年教师,或出国或下海,有一个断层,很多老教授临近退休,手下没有中青年骨干,火线破格提拔了一批。知道当年医学口评教授只要能发中文的就行,要是发一篇sci就直接破格了。 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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LEAUPARKENZO
这是他自己写的吗?
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cannie
见过不要脸的,但是没见过这么不要脸的。
Sioux 发表于 11/17/2019 11:25:52 PM


说明你见识太少
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cannie
今天人民日报公众号还推了一个浙大女硕士生2年发了13篇sci, 这种灌水文章, 居然受全国第一媒体推崇, 号召全国灌水。
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sorasky
要脸的话,就当不上教授,更不用说校长了。
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express77
真的无语
滑铁卢的春天
国内有些人(能掌握资源)是到处挂名的,他们看都不看文章内容,只关心能发在哪个期刊上。如果能发到国际很好的杂志,他们还会东拉西扯找人挂名,这些人都是利益挂钩的,发到好杂志,他们又能进一步捞钱。
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cannie
要脸的话,就当不上教授,更不用说校长了。
sorasky 发表于 11/18/2019 3:01:45 AM


难怪中国教授不值钱
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thrifty
爆料曹的pubpeer网站已经被hack了,哎!现在怎么都上不去了!
zatoichi888 发表于 11/18/2019 12:22:56 AM


这个PS曹叫兽有党撑腰就是厉害啊
冰兰
今天人民日报公众号还推了一个浙大女硕士生2年发了13篇sci, 这种灌水文章, 居然受全国第一媒体推崇, 号召全国灌水。
cannie 发表于 11/18/2019 1:12:45 AM


如果不全是一作还是有可能的,我认识一个大牛博士4年毕业还发了将近30篇文章,很多都是和别人合作的,现在在大疼已经正教授了。这个女硕士的情况就不知道了。
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shinno

Dear Dr. Bik,
I’m writing to you in response to recent inquiries you posted with regard to mentioned studies conducted at the National Key Laboratory of Medical Immunology and Institute of Immunology at the Second Military Medical University, with me being the corresponding author.
对于您最近发表的关于在第二军医大学医学免疫学国家重点实验室和免疫学研究所进行的上述研究的询问,我写信给您,我是通讯作者。
I appreciate your interest in our work and your commitment to protecting the accuracy of scientific records and the integrity of research pursuit. They are of utmost importance to me all along as well. Upon being notified of your inquiries, I have made them our highest priority and immediately took steps to look into the concerns you raised with the team and collaborators and carefully re-examined our manuscripts and raw data and lab records. We’ll work with the relevant journal editorial office(s) immediately if our investigation indicates any risk to the highest degree of accuracy of the published records.(首要任务就是自查,如果有问题,就撤稿!)
感谢您对我们工作的兴趣以及您对保护科学记录的准确性和研究追求的完整性的承诺。一直以来,它们对我也至关重要。在收到您的询问后,我将其列为我们的首要任务,并立即采取措施调查您与团队和合作者提出的问题,并仔细地重新检查了我们的手稿,原始数据和实验室记录。如果我们的调查显示所发布记录的最高准确性存在任何风险,我们将立即与相关的期刊编辑部合作。
Based on our analyses up to this point (still ongoing) and additional feedback we received from colleagues and peers, I would like to add that I remain confident about the validity and strength of the scientific conclusions made in those publications and our work’s reproducibility. Nevertheless, there is no excuse for any lapse in supervision or laboratory leadership and the concerns you raised serve as a fresh reminder to me just how important my role and responsibility are as mentor, supervisor, and lab leader; and how I might have fallen short. I feel therefore very heavy-hearted and tremendously sorry, to my current and former students, my staff and colleagues, my peers, and the larger community. I most sincerely apologize for any oversight on my part and any inconvenience it might have caused. I’ll use this as an invaluable learning opportunity to do better not only in advancing science, but also in safeguarding the accuracy and integrity of science.
根据到目前为止的分析(仍在进行中)以及从同事和同行那里获得的其他反馈,我想补充一点,我对这些出版物中得出的科学结论的有效性和优势以及我们工作的可重复性仍然充满信心。然而,监督或实验室领导地位的任何失调都是没有借口的,您提出的疑虑再次提醒我,我作为指导者,主管和实验室领导者的角色和责任是多么重要;以及我可能无法做到的事情。因此,对于我现在和以前的学生,我的员工和同事,我的同龄人以及整个社区,我感到非常心情沉重,并感到非常抱歉。对于我的疏忽以及给您带来的不便,我深表歉意。
Yours sincerely,
Xuetao Cao

aliquippa 发表于 11/17/2019 9:22:35 PM

英文真的不杂地, 难道是校长亲自写的? 都没有个助手给润个色啥的?
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weiwei8793
毕导今天也写了南开校长曹院士论文造假事件
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/IP-l2P7glaV3tN3lwy4Miw
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Dianayang
没见过这么不要脸的。
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danielkam
真不要脸
密码是mima12345
这里面留言的都够mean,生活是有多不顺心跑这儿撒野
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congcong8565
坦白讲,如果他只是通讯作者,也许真是背锅说不定。。。
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cherrymini
回复 26楼密码是mima12345的帖子

所以如果一个人杀了人,大家纷纷谴责杀人者丧尽天良就叫mean?学术造假在学术圈绝对是原则底线,一旦发现以后都不要再想洗白了。这种原则底线被破了,曹院士出来轻描淡写的说两句“Nevertheless, there is no excuse for any lapse in supervision or laboratory leadership and the concerns you raised serve as a fresh reminder to me just how important my role and responsibility are as mentor, supervisor, and lab leader; and how I might have fallen short.“ 感情这位院士当了几十年的老板了,这种提醒叫做fresh reminder?
大家还不能鄙视两句“不要脸?” 学术造假就是很无耻的一件事情。还有没有点基本是非观了?!
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cherrymini
回复 27楼congcong8565的帖子

通讯作者的意思就是要对这篇文章所有的data负责。
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letgogogo
坦白讲,如果他只是通讯作者,也许真是背锅说不定。。。
congcong8565 发表于 11/18/2019 3:09:42 PM


通信作者背锅顺位排第一
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letgogogo
回复 26楼密码是mima12345的帖子

所以如果一个人杀了人,大家纷纷谴责杀人者丧尽天良就叫mean?学术造假在学术圈绝对是原则底线,一旦发现以后都不要再想洗白了。这种原则底线被破了,曹院士出来轻描淡写的说两句“Nevertheless, there is no excuse for any lapse in supervision or laboratory leadership and the concerns you raised serve as a fresh reminder to me just how important my role and responsibility are as mentor, supervisor, and lab leader; and how I might have fallen short.“ 感情这位院士当了几十年的老板了,这种提醒叫做fresh reminder?
大家还不能鄙视两句“不要脸?” 学术造假就是很无耻的一件事情。还有没有点基本是非观了?!

cherrymini 发表于 11/18/2019 3:11:27 PM


就是不要脸嘛,还有同情的,同样不要脸嘛
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feo
回复 26楼密码是mima12345的帖子

所以如果一个人杀了人,大家纷纷谴责杀人者丧尽天良就叫mean?学术造假在学术圈绝对是原则底线,一旦发现以后都不要再想洗白了。这种原则底线被破了,曹院士出来轻描淡写的说两句“Nevertheless, there is no excuse for any lapse in supervision or laboratory leadership and the concerns you raised serve as a fresh reminder to me just how important my role and responsibility are as mentor, supervisor, and lab leader; and how I might have fallen short.“ 感情这位院士当了几十年的老板了,这种提醒叫做fresh reminder?
大家还不能鄙视两句“不要脸?” 学术造假就是很无耻的一件事情。还有没有点基本是非观了?!

cherrymini 发表于 11/18/2019 3:11:27 PM


re,人家日本人查出造假就去自杀,天朝真的是只有不要脸才能混得好啊
弹指芳华
毕导今天也写了南开校长曹院士论文造假事件
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/IP-l2P7glaV3tN3lwy4Miw
weiwei8793 发表于 11/18/2019 1:57:37 PM


我看完了,给个总结
造假是实锤了但应该是手下的小老板所为
曹院士水平高,能力强,人品好

不好意思啊,所有的论文通讯作者都是曹院士哎!既然草院士完全不知情,您就把您那些手下小老板列为通讯作者好嘛?您评院士全用这些造假了的论文,现在爆出造假了您就甩锅给手下小老板了,这手法很是中共特色哎!在欧美学术界,能力再牛掰的老板,哪怕只是一次做假被发现,也该凉凉好吗?
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coalpilerd
坦白讲,如果他只是通讯作者,也许真是背锅说不定。。。
congcong8565 发表于 11/18/2019 3:09:42 PM

怕背锅就别当通讯作者嘛。既然果子都摘了,相应的风险也得承担。
弹指芳华
草院士一共54篇各种期刊上的文章,从2003年到2019年,被质疑的和被提问有47篇,除了有一篇是提问,有一篇被质疑的得到他手下博士的回复,基本上造假的肯定有超过40篇,占他论文的绝大部分。草院士在国内会怎么样不清楚,作为全世界范围内都是顶级的免疫学家,这么大规模的造假,国际上的名声臭了吧,连带以后国际期刊(不管水平怎么样的)会怎么看来自中国的免疫学方面paper?