What she's saying is true. Drunk people don't deserve to be raped. They also don't deserve to be robbed, struck by cars, fall off balconies, etc.
My point is that "deserve" has nothing to do with it at all. If you get drunk to the point of losing your senses, you open yourself up to those who might do you harm. My point goes past the topic of drinking. Say you make a practice of walking alone at night with expensive clothes through a high-crime neighborhood. No you don't DESERVE to be robbed, but that's what is likely to happen. It is not victim shaming to identify the mistakes of others where it involves safety or wellbeing.
What she's saying is true. Drunk people don't deserve to be raped. They also don't deserve to be robbed, struck by cars, fall off balconies, etc.
My point is that "deserve" has nothing to do with it at all. If you get drunk to the point of losing your senses, you open yourself up to those who might do you harm. My point goes past the topic of drinking. Say you make a practice of walking alone at night with expensive clothes through a high-crime neighborhood. No you don't DESERVE to be robbed, but that's what is likely to happen. It is not victim shaming to identify the mistakes of others where it involves safety or wellbeing. meonline 发表于 9/26/2019 1:52:31 AM
如果强奸的人也drunk了呢？是不是不deserve被prosecute？
我认为，不管是drunk，not drunk，都要为自己的行为负责。你选择drunk，而身边没有照顾你的人，那么你可能要bear更大的risk，坏人会take advantage of your situation。
What she's saying is true. Drunk people don't deserve to be raped. They also don't deserve to be robbed, struck by cars, fall off balconies, etc.
My point is that "deserve" has nothing to do with it at all. If you get drunk to the point of losing your senses, you open yourself up to those who might do you harm. My point goes past the topic of drinking. Say you make a practice of walking alone at night with expensive clothes through a high-crime neighborhood. No you don't DESERVE to be robbed, but that's what is likely to happen. It is not victim shaming to identify the mistakes of others where it involves safety or wellbeing. meonline 发表于 9/26/2019 1:52:31 AM
下面的评论挺好的
What she's saying is true. Drunk people don't deserve to be raped. They also don't deserve to be robbed, struck by cars, fall off balconies, etc.
My point is that "deserve" has nothing to do with it at all. If you get drunk to the point of losing your senses, you open yourself up to those who might do you harm.
My point goes past the topic of drinking. Say you make a practice of walking alone at night with expensive clothes through a high-crime neighborhood. No you don't DESERVE to be robbed, but that's what is likely to happen.
It is not victim shaming to identify the mistakes of others where it involves safety or wellbeing.
当年刘强东被刑事起诉的时候，有人发微博说美国1000起强奸案只有不到10%被起诉
这里面大约有一半起诉成功
本来是黑刘强东的，顺带把美国黑了
☆ 发自 iPhone 华人一网 1.14.05
应该说在美国强奸案一直不怎么受重视，所以才有metoo movement
如果强奸的人也drunk了呢？是不是不deserve被prosecute？
我认为，不管是drunk，not drunk，都要为自己的行为负责。你选择drunk，而身边没有照顾你的人，那么你可能要bear更大的risk，坏人会take advantage of your situation。
美国的drinking party跟flirting文化真是很害人啊。一堆青春期孩子干柴烈火的还浇上酒精 女生各种穿着打扮都是尽显挑逗的 popular的男生也是一堆往上扑的。总会有出事的时候。最后男生女生都受惩罚
这个评论是几个意思？好到哪了？！绕了一圈，看着怎么还是blame victim 的意思。 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP