奥马尔真恶心

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ytwk
167 楼


共和党指派的又怎么了?你见民主党攻击他的诚信吗?mueller一开始挑peter strzok和lisa page来调差川普你怎么不说呢?现在的political base已经疯狂到只要政见不合连就要毫无证据攻击别人的专业素养吗?

你居然知道赞成票不够所以在一个民主国家不能启动impeachment. 支持impeachment的民主党都不到一半,为什么呢。新闻里的民主党可是恨不得饮其血啖其肉。

urthur 发表于 7/19/2019 1:49:09 PM


Mueller是共和党指派的这一事实加上是在共和党领导的司法部监督下进行的调查就足以说明你的“民主党叫这么响挖这么多,倾全党之力调查川普”是不符事实的谎话。攻击专业人士包括Mueller的人是川普自己。看看他委任的幕僚中有多少人被他赶走?他可能是美国史上最喜欢诋毁专业人士素养的总统。

看你那么惊讶不会是第一次听到赞成票不够就不能启动impeachment程序?
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puwter
166 楼
侯赛因总统仅仅是个开始... ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
pmmp 发表于 7/18/2019 11:32:28 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU
Wangxiaoming
165 楼


最简单,日本有什么企业能做手机?

日本基本大企业全军覆没。

pig0019 发表于 7/19/2019 1:25:58 PM


手机啊,中国能造。。很高端么?我也不大懂。。日本会玩光阻剂这些低端的。。
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puwter
164 楼
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urthur
163 楼


你在颠倒是非,调查川普的special counsel mueller是受共和党而不是民主党领导下的司法部之托对总统进行调查的。调查报告列出了证据但说了依规矩司法部不能起诉在位总统,只有国会才可以通过impeachment来把总统赶下台。现在没有启动impeachment程序是因为国会同意启动程序的赞成票数不够。

ytwk 发表于 7/19/2019 1:18:43 PM


共和党指派的又怎么了?你见民主党攻击他的诚信吗?mueller一开始挑peter strzok和lisa page来调差川普你怎么不说呢?现在的political base已经疯狂到只要政见不合连就要毫无证据攻击别人的专业素养吗?

你居然知道赞成票不够所以在一个民主国家不能启动impeachment. 支持impeachment的民主党都不到一半,为什么呢。新闻里的民主党可是恨不得饮其血啖其肉。
tiffany2013
162 楼


飞机意外是民主党惯用手法。
肯尼迪和希拉里竞选州长时,就被飞机意外了。

这就是为什么Kennedy家族死活不让希拉里当总统。捧08上台。

pig0019 发表于 7/19/2019 1:24:32 PM

完全同意。 肯尼迪家族是把奥巴马顶上去的主要势力。
pig0019
161 楼


最近的韩日争端不知道?软肋都快炒排骨了。。
Wangxiaoming 发表于 7/19/2019 11:39:58 AM


最简单,日本有什么企业能做手机?

日本基本大企业全军覆没。
pig0019
160 楼

我查过新闻,那位health dir 是大选结束两年后才去世的,而且死于飞机意外事故。大选时,很多势力包括川普雇了私家侦探去挖丑闻。若真有什么把柄,早该爆出来了。我个人不喜欢奥的政见,但这种谣言没有什么证据

urthur 发表于 7/19/2019 11:48:23 AM


飞机意外是民主党惯用手法。
肯尼迪和希拉里竞选州长时,就被飞机意外了。

这就是为什么Kennedy家族死活不让希拉里当总统。捧08上台。
约拿
真特么的不要脸, 哪儿来滚回哪儿去。
danenzi
长得还可以
ronyning
估计老川普现在笑的眼睛都没了。这智商,也是没谁了。可惜各大媒体不会报道的。
Hikari2019
我支持这个omar。她很厉害
看了Glenn Beck对她的调查
就觉得穆斯林都是养不熟的白眼狼
把他们这些人弄进美国就是养虎为患
huarenmm_
这女的怎么看怎么恶心,和兄弟结婚骗绿卡不要脸
ronyning
看了Glenn Beck对她的调查
就觉得穆斯林都是养不熟的白眼狼
把他们这些人弄进美国就是养虎为患
萏 发表于 7/18/2019 2:27:31 PM


还想养熟?太贪心了。你对他们好,是人家阿拉赐福。你对人家不好,是你个异教徒王八蛋!逻辑清晰霸道,专门利己。可怜各种左左们,自己挖坑埋自己,还骂别人不加入挖坑行列。


还想养熟?太贪心了。你对他们好,是人家阿拉赐福。你对人家不好,是你个异教徒王八蛋!逻辑清晰霸道,专门利己。可怜各种左左们,自己挖坑埋自己,还骂别人不加入挖坑行列。

ronyning 发表于 7/18/2019 2:31:34 PM

左左们都等着她竞选总统呢到处都在高呼她是打不败的
要把Trump送回德国
pig0019
我支持这个omar。她很厉害
Hikari2019 发表于 7/18/2019 2:25:36 PM


对啊,跟自己亲哥哥结婚来骗美国身份。
huaren_ID
谁知道的说下,为什么和兄弟结婚骗绿卡没有被起诉?绿卡取消?
elee555


对啊,跟自己亲哥哥结婚来骗美国身份。

pig0019 发表于 7/18/2019 2:35:40 PM

这事是真的假的?
pig0019

这事是真的假的?
elee555 发表于 7/18/2019 2:38:55 PM


全世界都知道了啊。美国人叫她brother f*ker
Wangxiaoming
谁知道的说下,为什么和兄弟结婚骗绿卡没有被起诉?绿卡取消?
huaren_ID 发表于 7/18/2019 2:37:22 PM


人家算宗教婚姻,市政府那里不用登记的。。黑帽子犹太人定的规矩。。。
我只是好奇她算他哥的四个老婆之一?
elee555


全世界都知道了啊。美国人叫她brother f*ker

pig0019 发表于 7/18/2019 2:39:54 PM

很多人说是谣言。这事应该不难查吧?骗绿卡必须要登记结婚吧
芝士年糕

人家算宗教婚姻,市政府那里不用登记的。。黑帽子犹太人定的规矩。。。
我只是好奇她算他哥的四个老婆之一?
Wangxiaoming 发表于 7/18/2019 2:41:09 PM


婚姻绿卡不需要拿出结婚证的吗……不登记怎么拿的婚姻绿卡,她的身份简直是个谜
mc2016groupon


人家算宗教婚姻,市政府那里不用登记的。。黑帽子犹太人定的规矩。。。
我只是好奇她算他哥的四个老婆之一?
Wangxiaoming 发表于 7/18/2019 2:41:09 PM


不登记怎么骗身份啊? 无脑跟风谣言棍。。 造谣撒谎要说圆一点 !
huaren_ID


人家算宗教婚姻,市政府那里不用登记的。。黑帽子犹太人定的规矩。。。
我只是好奇她算他哥的四个老婆之一?
Wangxiaoming 发表于 7/18/2019 2:41:09 PM

所以穆斯林有几个老婆就能移民几个老婆过来?过来以后还是可以一夫多妻?还是留一个,剩下的遣散?
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justwatching
找了半天没找到奥巴马 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
pmmp
我支持这个omar。她很厉害
Hikari2019 发表于 7/18/2019 2:25:36 PM

因为你是丝袜坑王 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
elee555
我刚Google 了一下,这个以前和Omar登记结婚的Elmi 现在居住英国,目前没有证据表明他是Omar的brother,不知道为什么大家说他是Omar的brother?
huaren_ID
觉得她那句“some people did something”应该把几乎所有人都得罪了吧?不过她下次还能被选上,美国也没啥希望了。。
ytwk
说Omar跟自己亲哥哥结婚来骗美国身份的人能不能拿出证据来证明她和哪个哥哥结婚、哪年结婚、哪年骗的美国身份?

Facts: Trump’s answer was prompted by a reporter at a press conference before Trump’s rally who asked, “is your administration going to possibly look into immigration frauds committed by Ilhan Omar by possibly marrying her brother”.

Trump added fuel to a rumor, created by conservative bloggers and spread during her 2018 congressional campaign, that Omar – who became a US citizen in 2000 – once married her brother to commit immigration fraud.

The rumor is born from Omar’s complicated marital history. She applied for a marriage license with her husband, Ahmed Abdisalan Hirsi, in 2002. Though a license wasn’t given, she said they went through a marriage in according with their faith traditions. She had two children with Hirsi before their relationship ended in 2008.

In 2009, she married Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, a British citizen, according to a marriage certificate. She said her relationship with Elmi ended in 2011, and she reunited with Hirsi in 2012. Her divorce with Elmi was legally finalized in 2017, and she married Hirsi again last year.

Omar has denounced the accusation that Elmi is her brother as “disgusting lies”. She has declined to provide the media with a list of her siblings. She has said she is the youngest of seven. Elmi’s birth date on his marriage certificate says he’s three years younger than Omar.

“Insinuations that Ahmed Nur Said Elmi is my brother are absurd and offensive,” Omar said in a statement in 2016.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/18/trump-ilhan-omar-attacks-factcheck
fannysunny
她也得瑟不了多久吧。
我刚Google 了一下,这个以前和Omar登记结婚的Elmi 现在居住英国,目前没有证据表明他是Omar的brother,不知道为什么大家说他是Omar的brother?
elee555 发表于 7/18/2019 2:56:11 PM


看到有新闻这么写的
Alpha News’ extensive research has revealed Omar may have married her brother Ahmed Nur Said Elmi in order to aid Elmi in obtaining citizenship. Elmi’s name follows the Somali custom of being named after his father, which is the same name as her father. While being legally married to Elmi, Omar has publicly identified Ahmed Hirsi as her cultural husband and father of her children

In her divorce documents, Omar tells the court that Elmi left the country in 2011 to go back to London. This corresponds with her statements that she and Elmi terminated their relationship so she could resume her relationship with Hirsi. She also claims in court documents that she hasn’t spoken or seen her estranged husband since June 2011. However, Alpha News obtained documentation via social media that shows these statements to be false. A trail of contact on social media shows Omar and Elmi stayed in contact through 2014, leading to the potential that Omar committed perjury by lying in the divorce documents about her last known contact with Elmi.
istopbleach
我看成奥巴马了
ytwk
我刚Google 了一下,这个以前和Omar登记结婚的Elmi 现在居住英国,目前没有证据表明他是Omar的brother,不知道为什么大家说他是Omar的brother?
elee555 发表于 7/18/2019 2:56:11 PM

而且这个Elmi是英国公民,跟英国公民结婚骗美国身份?
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twoangles
是这个英国公民和她结婚离婚,骗取美国合法身份
elee555


看到有新闻这么写的
Alpha News’ extensive research has revealed Omar may have married her brother Ahmed Nur Said Elmi in order to aid Elmi in obtaining citizenship. Elmi’s name follows the Somali custom of being named after his father, which is the same name as her father. While being legally married to Elmi, Omar has publicly identified Ahmed Hirsi as her cultural husband and father of her children

In her divorce documents, Omar tells the court that Elmi left the country in 2011 to go back to London. This corresponds with her statements that she and Elmi terminated their relationship so she could resume her relationship with Hirsi. She also claims in court documents that she hasn’t spoken or seen her estranged husband since June 2011. However, Alpha News obtained documentation via social media that shows these statements to be false. A trail of contact on social media shows Omar and Elmi stayed in contact through 2014, leading to the potential that Omar committed perjury by lying in the divorce documents about her last known contact with Elmi.

萏 发表于 7/18/2019 3:05:02 PM

所以说这个只是名字相近的猜测而已,没有实际证据?
Omar denied the claims in a statement to the Associated Press, but refused to answer any specific questions. Omar alleged it is all an attempt to stop a “progressive, Black, Muslim, hijab-wearing, immigrant woman.”

“We choose not to further the narrative of those who oppose us,” Omar told the Associated Press.
mc2016groupon
这是无脑穆黑造谣被戳穿吗?
政治科代表
觉得她那句“some people did something”应该把几乎所有人都得罪了吧?不过她下次还能被选上,美国也没啥希望了。。
huaren_ID 发表于 7/18/2019 2:57:18 PM


她那么说不会得罪穆斯林
911是美穆的原罪
luming
这个是谣言

很清楚的证据是,她出生于1982年,小时候她跟她家逃出索马里在肯尼亚难民营申请美国难民,1992年她10岁时到的美国,难民身份1995年正式批下来,她才13岁. 2000年她就入籍成了公民。
所谓兄弟结婚是无耻谣言来着

这女的怎么看怎么恶心,和兄弟结婚骗绿卡不要脸

huarenmm_ 发表于 7/18/2019 2:29:32 PM
luming
您知不知道很多华裔也这么被说?

真特么的不要脸, 哪儿来滚回哪儿去。

约拿 发表于 7/18/2019 2:22:45 PM
luming
假的。她10岁到的纽约。


这事是真的假的?
elee555 发表于 7/18/2019 2:38:55 PM
tiffany2013
觉得她和亲哥哥结婚骗绿卡是真的。 她唯一的说辞是凡是揭露她劣迹的全是racist。

The Powerline blog claimed in an investigative report published Thursday that Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) not only married her brother, but also received asylum as a child after her family used a false name.

The extensive blog post was written by David Steinberg, who did much of the initial reporting on Omar that was re-traced by the Minneapolis Star Tribune after a state ethics investigation revealed last month that she had filed joint tax returns for two years with one man while married to another.


Steinberg claims that Omar is actually one of five siblings in the Elmi family from Somalia. Three of the siblings were granted asylum in the United Kingdom, while two were granted asylum in the United States, including the father, Sternberg alleges.

He further alleges: “The Omar family is a second, unrelated family which was being granted asylum by the United States. The Omars allowed Ilhan, her genetic sister Sahra, and her genetic father Nur Said to use false names to apply for asylum as members of the Omar family.”

Steinberg also alleges that Rep. Omar married her alleged brother, Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, in 2009: he had already reportedly been granted asylum in the UK. Following the marriage, he allegedly went on to study at North Dakota State University.

Elmi allegedly lived with her and with Ahmed Hirsi, the father of her children and the man to whom she says she had been married in an Islamic ceremony in 2002, while he studied. He allegedly left the U.S. shortly thereafter.

Omar reportedly divorced Elmi in 2017 and legally married Hirsi a short time later. However, she filed joint tax returns with Hirsi for 2014 and 2015 while still legally married to Elmi.


Omar paid a lawyer to help her deal with the situation, the state ethics investigation confirmed. The campaign finance violation occurred when she used campaign funds to pay the lawyer for what was a non-campaign-related purpose.

Steinberg notes that Omar was 12 years old at the time her family entered the U.S., and so “had no say” in the matter. However, he adds, she is now under scrutiny for later actions as an adult, including her marriages, tax filings, and campaign expenditures.

The Daily Mail, reporting Wednesday on the allegations about Omar’s marriage, noted that the official who performed Omar’s legal marriage to Elmi was a Christian minister.

In the past, Omar has called allegations that she married her brother “disgusting lies.” She also claimed that accusations of campaign finance violations against her, some of which were later vindicated, were motivated by anti-Muslim prejudice.

Breitbart News reached out to Rep. Omar’s office for comment Thursday and received no response.
不娶何撩
美国的无赖流氓都是这样的, 你看那大街上吵架的homeless都是这个态度。
有点尊严的人都知道引咎辞职。

民主党自己也是很懊悔,本来想养一堆难民给自己投选票,没想到人家要推翻了他自己来。。

不走正道,被反噬。

老祖宗的话说的很对,在美国同样适用。
ytwk
是这个英国公民和她结婚离婚,骗取美国合法身份
twoangles 发表于 7/18/2019 3:09:47 PM


骗取美国身份总要递一份申请表吧,为什么2016年传闻至今,没人出示任何申请过的证明材料?

Given that Omar and her siblings all came to live in the U.S. under identical circumstances as refugees, and that Omar herself became a naturalized U.S. citizen while still a minor, how did one of her siblings end up with such a radically different immigration status that she would have needed to marry him in order to facilitate his U.S. residency application? Also, if Ahmed Elmi were truly Omar’s brother, why would he have needed to take the drastic step of marrying her in order to secure a path to U.S. citizenship? U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) policies qualify immigrants as eligible to apply for permanent residency status (and later become naturalized citizens) if they are the “spouse of a U.S. citizen” or the “brother or sister of a U.S. citizen.” Why would Omar commit a federal crime and risk a prison sentence (and possibly her own citizenship status) in order to provide her brother with the opportunity to apply for something he would already have been eligible to seek? Elmi reportedly attended North Dakota State University with Omar between 2009 and 2012. But as a British citizen Elmi could have studied at any university in the European Union or European Economic Area, and in some of those countries his education would have been tuition-free. Was attending school in North Dakota instead such a priority as to merit committing marriage and immigration fraud and risking a fine of up to $250,000 and five years in prison? If Elmi was so desperate for U.S. residency/citizenship status that he engaged in a sham “marriage” with his sister in order to seek it, why did he return to England after his split with Omar? And why is there no record of Elmi’s having applied for or obtained such status if that was the whole point of his supposedly “fraudulent” marriage to his alleged sister?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan-omar-marry-brother/
不娶何撩
fact-check needs fact-check
梅干茶泡饭
说她作假不是她的身份作假 是有人怀疑她第二段婚姻是为了给男的办身份
她这个case的确很shady 她一开始和男A结婚但是没扯证 生了几个娃之后分手 和男B结婚办了证 然后很快又宣布和B分居 在分居到正式离婚的几年内和A和好又生了A的娃
所以被怀疑的是她和B的婚姻是否真实。。。。

实话讲这怎么看都很黑历史啊 这样的黑历史都能从政真厉害。。。。
tiffany2013
说她作假不是她的身份作假 是有人怀疑她第二段婚姻是为了给男的办身份
她这个case的确很shady 她一开始和男A结婚但是没扯证 生了几个娃之后分手 和男B结婚办了证 然后很快又宣布和B分居 在分居到正式离婚的几年内和A和好又生了A的娃
所以被怀疑的是她和B的婚姻是否真实。。。。

实话讲这怎么看都很黑历史啊 这样的黑历史都能从政真厉害。。。。
梅干茶泡饭 发表于 7/18/2019 3:25:04 PM

靠打种族牌, 谁揭穿她谁就是种族歧视。这下三滥的手段被民主党玩死了。 以后只能靠他们内讧自相残杀了。 正常人都离他们远远的。
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urthur
我刚Google 了一下,这个以前和Omar登记结婚的Elmi 现在居住英国,目前没有证据表明他是Omar的brother,不知道为什么大家说他是Omar的brother?
elee555 发表于 7/18/2019 2:56:11 PM


原帖,但是里面的内容没办法核实(比如omar第二任老公的instagram已经不公开了) https://web.archive.org/web/20181209185125/https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/ilhan-omar-her-back-pages.php
https://alphanewsmn.com/city-pages-expose-omar-family-secrets/
hcrab
说她作假不是她的身份作假 是有人怀疑她第二段婚姻是为了给男的办身份
她这个case的确很shady 她一开始和男A结婚但是没扯证 生了几个娃之后分手 和男B结婚办了证 然后很快又宣布和B分居 在分居到正式离婚的几年内和A和好又生了A的娃
所以被怀疑的是她和B的婚姻是否真实。。。。

实话讲这怎么看都很黑历史啊 这样的黑历史都能从政真厉害。。。。
梅干茶泡饭 发表于 7/18/2019 3:25:04 PM


敢提她的黑历史就是种族歧视,大帽子一扣谁敢说话
pig0019
Omar denied the claims in a statement to the Associated Press, but refused to answer any specific questions. Omar alleged it is all an attempt to stop a “progressive, Black, Muslim, hijab-wearing, immigrant woman.”

“We choose not to further the narrative of those who oppose us,” Omar told the Associated Press.
萏 发表于 7/18/2019 3:11:52 PM

呵呵。
不能自圆其说。“你们种族歧视!”
不娶何撩
说她作假不是她的身份作假 是有人怀疑她第二段婚姻是为了给男的办身份
她这个case的确很shady 她一开始和男A结婚但是没扯证 生了几个娃之后分手 和男B结婚办了证 然后很快又宣布和B分居 在分居到正式离婚的几年内和A和好又生了A的娃
所以被怀疑的是她和B的婚姻是否真实。。。。

实话讲这怎么看都很黑历史啊 这样的黑历史都能从政真厉害。。。。
梅干茶泡饭 发表于 7/18/2019 3:25:04 PM


她那段关于911的讲话里面还有一段,就是人间看她蒙脸戴头巾就看了她,她就跟人去怼,说你为什么看我,你歧视我。

完全就是没有开化很野蛮的样子。

要是有个民族的人有露装痞,认为露屁股是美。他们每天都穿露屁股衣服上街。

来到了穆斯林国家,穆斯林看了他们一眼,他们也抓着穆斯林说,你看啥,你歧视我。

穆斯林才不会看他一眼, 估计就地正法了。

穆斯林是最没有包容度的人,有的华人还帮他们说话,不是蠢就是傻。
不娶何撩


敢提她的黑历史就是种族歧视,大帽子一扣谁敢说话

hcrab 发表于 7/18/2019 3:33:40 PM


如果被人说种族歧视,基本就表示你赢了。
揽月听风
我刚Google 了一下,这个以前和Omar登记结婚的Elmi 现在居住英国,目前没有证据表明他是Omar的brother,不知道为什么大家说他是Omar的brother?
elee555 发表于 7/18/2019 2:56:11 PM [/url]


https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/07/david-steinberg-tying-up-loose-threads-in-the-curious-case.php

这个说得挺清楚的,应该是她跟她姐妹、老爸改了姓omar,移民到美国,她哥几个还是姓elmi,移民去了英国,她成年了跟她哥结婚,让她哥移民到了美国。只转帖不保真哈。
ytwk
觉得她和亲哥哥结婚骗绿卡是真的。 她唯一的说辞是凡是揭露她劣迹的全是racist。

The Powerline blog claimed in an investigative report published Thursday that Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) not only married her brother, but also received asylum as a child after her family used a false name.

The extensive blog post was written by David Steinberg, who did much of the initial reporting on Omar that was re-traced by the Minneapolis Star Tribune after a state ethics investigation revealed last month that she had filed joint tax returns for two years with one man while married to another.


Steinberg claims that Omar is actually one of five siblings in the Elmi family from Somalia. Three of the siblings were granted asylum in the United Kingdom, while two were granted asylum in the United States, including the father, Sternberg alleges.

He further alleges: “The Omar family is a second, unrelated family which was being granted asylum by the United States. The Omars allowed Ilhan, her genetic sister Sahra, and her genetic father Nur Said to use false names to apply for asylum as members of the Omar family.”

Steinberg also alleges that Rep. Omar married her alleged brother, Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, in 2009: he had already reportedly been granted asylum in the UK. Following the marriage, he allegedly went on to study at North Dakota State University.

Elmi allegedly lived with her and with Ahmed Hirsi, the father of her children and the man to whom she says she had been married in an Islamic ceremony in 2002, while he studied. He allegedly left the U.S. shortly thereafter.

Omar reportedly divorced Elmi in 2017 and legally married Hirsi a short time later. However, she filed joint tax returns with Hirsi for 2014 and 2015 while still legally married to Elmi.


Omar paid a lawyer to help her deal with the situation, the state ethics investigation confirmed. The campaign finance violation occurred when she used campaign funds to pay the lawyer for what was a non-campaign-related purpose.

Steinberg notes that Omar was 12 years old at the time her family entered the U.S., and so “had no say” in the matter. However, he adds, she is now under scrutiny for later actions as an adult, including her marriages, tax filings, and campaign expenditures.

The Daily Mail, reporting Wednesday on the allegations about Omar’s marriage, noted that the official who performed Omar’s legal marriage to Elmi was a Christian minister.

In the past, Omar has called allegations that she married her brother “disgusting lies.” She also claimed that accusations of campaign finance violations against her, some of which were later vindicated, were motivated by anti-Muslim prejudice.

Breitbart News reached out to Rep. Omar’s office for comment Thursday and received no response.

tiffany2013 发表于 7/18/2019 3:19:27 PM

为什么state ethics investigation的调查结果没有说她是否和亲哥哥结婚以便为他骗取美国身份?这难道不属于ethics调查范畴?
tiffany2013

为什么state ethics investigation的调查结果没有说她是否和亲哥哥结婚以便为他骗取美国身份?这难道不属于ethics调查范畴?

ytwk 发表于 7/18/2019 3:52:42 PM

根本没查这事。 只查了报税
v
vanillamm
回复 1楼Remfei的帖子

没有视频啊
elee555
明白了,觉得她和亲哥哥结婚骗绿卡是真的。 她唯一的说辞是凡是揭露她劣迹的全是racist。

The Powerline blog claimed in an investigative report published Thursday that Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) not only married her brother, but also received asylum as a child after her family used a false name.

The extensive blog post was written by David Steinberg, who did much of the initial reporting on Omar that was re-traced by the Minneapolis Star Tribune after a state ethics investigation revealed last month that she had filed joint tax returns for two years with one man while married to another.


Steinberg claims that Omar is actually one of five siblings in the Elmi family from Somalia. Three of the siblings were granted asylum in the United Kingdom, while two were granted asylum in the United States, including the father, Sternberg alleges.

He further alleges: “The Omar family is a second, unrelated family which was being granted asylum by the United States. The Omars allowed Ilhan, her genetic sister Sahra, and her genetic father Nur Said to use false names to apply for asylum as members of the Omar family.”

Steinberg also alleges that Rep. Omar married her alleged brother, Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, in 2009: he had already reportedly been granted asylum in the UK. Following the marriage, he allegedly went on to study at North Dakota State University.

Elmi allegedly lived with her and with Ahmed Hirsi, the father of her children and the man to whom she says she had been married in an Islamic ceremony in 2002, while he studied. He allegedly left the U.S. shortly thereafter.

Omar reportedly divorced Elmi in 2017 and legally married Hirsi a short time later. However, she filed joint tax returns with Hirsi for 2014 and 2015 while still legally married to Elmi.


Omar paid a lawyer to help her deal with the situation, the state ethics investigation confirmed. The campaign finance violation occurred when she used campaign funds to pay the lawyer for what was a non-campaign-related purpose.

Steinberg notes that Omar was 12 years old at the time her family entered the U.S., and so “had no say” in the matter. However, he adds, she is now under scrutiny for later actions as an adult, including her marriages, tax filings, and campaign expenditures.

The Daily Mail, reporting Wednesday on the allegations about Omar’s marriage, noted that the official who performed Omar’s legal marriage to Elmi was a Christian minister.

In the past, Omar has called allegations that she married her brother “disgusting lies.” She also claimed that accusations of campaign finance violations against her, some of which were later vindicated, were motivated by anti-Muslim prejudice.

Breitbart News reached out to Rep. Omar’s office for comment Thursday and received no response.

tiffany2013 发表于 7/18/2019 3:19:27 PM

明白了,看来不能排除这种可能,只是没有非常确凿的证据。不过这段结婚历史也确实很奇葩,难怪大家都怀疑。
ytwk

根本没查这事。 只查了报税

tiffany2013 发表于 7/18/2019 3:58:37 PM


2016年就有人传了,既然是ethics调查骗身份应该属于调查范畴啊。
L
Lucy8860
满口仁义道德
catakiri

还想养熟?太贪心了。你对他们好,是人家阿拉赐福。你对人家不好,是你个异教徒王八蛋!逻辑清晰霸道,专门利己。可怜各种左左们,自己挖坑埋自己,还骂别人不加入挖坑行列。
ronyning 发表于 7/18/2019 2:31:34 PM


这跟最近几年的厉害国小粉红也都是一样的,美国WTO让利,人家觉得是共产主义领导有方国民自己努力。
美国现在要求贸易公平了,就是美帝国主义亡我之心不死,美国人是羡慕嫉妒恨中国华为的5G。
逻辑清晰霸道,专门利己。 跟前些日子在板上刷版从一亩三分地来的反HR1044的那一帮人也类似。
这种行为叫什么?耍流氓?
u
urthur

明白了,看来不能排除这种可能,只是没有非常确凿的证据。不过这段结婚历史也确实很奇葩,难怪大家都怀疑。

elee555 发表于 7/18/2019 4:02:04 PM


按照以往爆料的标准看,这些已经算确凿证据了。刑事案可能要求会高点。
她第二任老公还跟爆料人之一联络要求对方撤掉自己的照片,爆料人问他和omar的合影是怎么回事, 他说自己压根不认识omar,可能是开conference时偶遇。。。这样子睁眼说瞎话的,唯一办法就是给这两人验DNA了...

川普说难民Program 很乱。我看完Omar 这些爆料后才大概明白什么意思
pig0019


这跟最近几年的厉害国小粉红也都是一样的,美国WTO让利,人家觉得是共产主义领导有方国民自己努力。
美国现在要求贸易公平了,就是美帝国主义亡我之心不死,美国人是羡慕嫉妒恨中国华为的5G。
逻辑清晰霸道,专门利己。 跟前些日子在板上刷版从一亩三分地来的反HR1044的那一帮人也类似。
这种行为叫什么?耍流氓?

catakiri 发表于 7/18/2019 4:21:18 PM


扯淡把。
90年代美国骗日本签广场协议吸血,搞得日本过去30年走下坡路,零发展。

现在中国不过是不愿意被美国吸血而已。
美国左派的满口仁义道德和大爱,还不是建立在吸血日本,搞乱欧洲,输出通货膨胀,剪欧洲羊毛身上?

否则,大爱的钱从哪里来?
hliu27
回复26楼istopbleach的帖子
我也是
elee555


https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/07/david-steinberg-tying-up-loose-threads-in-the-curious-case.php

这个说得挺清楚的,应该是她跟她姐妹、老爸改了姓omar,移民到美国,她哥几个还是姓elmi,移民去了英国,她成年了跟她哥结婚,让她哥移民到了美国。只转帖不保真哈。

揽月听风 发表于 7/18/2019 3:37:55 PM

多谢转贴。我原来还觉得是谣言。现在看了,说不定还真是这么回事。如果是真的,估计美国有些人是不会放过她的。
pig0019


https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/07/david-steinberg-tying-up-loose-threads-in-the-curious-case.php

这个说得挺清楚的,应该是她跟她姐妹、老爸改了姓omar,移民到美国,她哥几个还是姓elmi,移民去了英国,她成年了跟她哥结婚,让她哥移民到了美国。只转帖不保真哈。

揽月听风 发表于 7/18/2019 3:37:55 PM
假结婚都是小事
更应该关注的是她和Hamas的丝丝缕缕的关系

xiqi
这么厚颜无耻的人,加上AOC那几个丑角,能在自由国度竞选上议员, 我不由得深深怀疑人性,或是那句话 人间不值得
hcrab
这么厚颜无耻的人,加上AOC那几个丑角,能在自由国度竞选上议员, 我不由得深深怀疑人性,或是那句话 人间不值得
xiqi 发表于 7/18/2019 5:10:13 PM


代表了那几个选区的人的素质
Wangxiaoming


扯淡把。
90年代美国骗日本签广场协议吸血,搞得日本过去30年走下坡路,零发展。

现在中国不过是不愿意被美国吸血而已。
美国左派的满口仁义道德和大爱,还不是建立在吸血日本,搞乱欧洲,输出通货膨胀,剪欧洲羊毛身上?

否则,大爱的钱从哪里来?

pig0019 发表于 7/18/2019 4:51:22 PM

所以你觉得中国加入WTO骗美国20年是替天行道?
RolandQ

所以你觉得中国加入WTO骗美国20年是替天行道?

Wangxiaoming 发表于 7/18/2019 5:14:14 PM

小粉现在的逻辑都是这样的,骗到了就赢了。
Wangxiaoming

小粉现在的逻辑都是这样的,骗到了就赢了。

RolandQ 发表于 7/18/2019 5:15:28 PM


中国文化里骗人叫智慧。。很光荣的。。。
hr717
Omar不是她的真last name,她12歲asylum來美,是跟著omar family來的。她弟弟和姐姐去難民身分去的英國。她和老公沒有register marriage,後來和她弟弟註冊結婚,她弟弟來美國和她一起念dakoda state。兩人到2017才離婚。期間她和真的老公生了三個孩子。三個右派記者把她扒了個底朝天,證據確鑿。網上傳遍了可是MSM一直壓著不報導
ytwk
Omar不是她的真last name,她12歲asylum來美,是跟著omar family來的。她弟弟和姐姐去難民身分去的英國。她和老公沒有register marriage,後來和她弟弟註冊結婚,她弟弟來美國和她一起念dakoda state。兩人到2017才離婚。期間她和真的老公生了三個孩子。三個右派記者把她扒了個底朝天,證據確鑿。網上傳遍了可是MSM一直壓著不報導
hr717 发表于 7/18/2019 5:30:37 PM

怎么哥哥又变成弟弟了?2016年她竞选明州众议员时就传她结婚的目的是这个哥哥要骗美国身份,她那年就当选了。这种州议员犯法行为为什么3年了都拿不出证据来,把他哥哥申请美国身份的资料让大家看看不就完了?不比网上一个blogger的话可信多了?
z
zhegufei


扯淡把。
90年代美国骗日本签广场协议吸血,搞得日本过去30年走下坡路,零发展。

现在中国不过是不愿意被美国吸血而已。
美国左派的满口仁义道德和大爱,还不是建立在吸血日本,搞乱欧洲,输出通货膨胀,剪欧洲羊毛身上?

否则,大爱的钱从哪里来?

pig0019 发表于 7/18/2019 4:51:22 PM


放屁。日本非常Happy的签协议的。
自己的房地产搞到天上去了,爆了怪美国?
pig0019

所以你觉得中国加入WTO骗美国20年是替天行道?

Wangxiaoming 发表于 7/18/2019 5:14:14 PM

中国没上当而已。
pig0019


放屁。日本非常Happy的签协议的。
自己的房地产搞到天上去了,爆了怪美国?

zhegufei 发表于 7/18/2019 5:52:34 PM

你看看过去三十年日本生不如死的样子。这不就是傻吗。
amylee303
听说木木四个老婆只能有一个结婚证,所以只能移民这个有结婚证的老婆和孩子,其他的只能呆在原地,木木老公只能二边跑。
SurelyNaked

怎么哥哥又变成弟弟了?2016年她竞选明州众议员时就传她结婚的目的是这个哥哥要骗美国身份,她那年就当选了。这种州议员犯法行为为什么3年了都拿不出证据来,把他哥哥申请美国身份的资料让大家看看不就完了?不比网上一个blogger的话可信多了?

ytwk 发表于 7/18/2019 5:46:29 PM

申请美国身份的资料是被法律保护的隐私 非本人或者有法院命令 别人一概拿不到的 这么关注政治是不是也该有点法律常识 就算你本人要去移民局找你当初递交的材料 也是要填表申请才能拿到 你以为是上网查real estate record?
xiafanle
像一个蟑螂爬上椅子了
congcong8565


这跟最近几年的厉害国小粉红也都是一样的,美国WTO让利,人家觉得是共产主义领导有方国民自己努力。
美国现在要求贸易公平了,就是美帝国主义亡我之心不死,美国人是羡慕嫉妒恨中国华为的5G。
逻辑清晰霸道,专门利己。 跟前些日子在板上刷版从一亩三分地来的反HR1044的那一帮人也类似。
这种行为叫什么?耍流氓?

catakiri 发表于 7/18/2019 4:21:18 PM


国家和国家之间还有“让利”? 过去几十年,中国打开国门,美国中国一起发展发财,现在美国觉得自己赚得少了,中国占便宜了,中国觉得自己实力够了,应该保护自己的利益,所以才有的贸易战。我不知道谁赢的面儿大,但是一切都是利益,说的好像美国以前是做公益的一样。
catakiri

国家和国家之间还有“让利”? 过去几十年,中国打开国门,美国中国一起发展发财,现在美国觉得自己赚得少了,中国占便宜了,中国觉得自己实力够了,应该保护自己的利益,所以才有的贸易战。我不知道谁赢的面儿大,但是一切都是利益,说的好像美国以前是做公益的一样。
congcong8565 发表于 7/18/2019 7:25:00 PM

美国忍受这么多年的贸易逆差就是在做公益。中国不遵守合约能拖就拖就是耍流氓。
happy3001
说她作假不是她的身份作假 是有人怀疑她第二段婚姻是为了给男的办身份
她这个case的确很shady 她一开始和男A结婚但是没扯证 生了几个娃之后分手 和男B结婚办了证 然后很快又宣布和B分居 在分居到正式离婚的几年内和A和好又生了A的娃
所以被怀疑的是她和B的婚姻是否真实。。。。

实话讲这怎么看都很黑历史啊 这样的黑历史都能从政真厉害。。。。
梅干茶泡饭 发表于 7/18/2019 3:25:04 PM


现在没有黑历史,在民主党里混不开.
t
thetisea
这么厚颜无耻的人,加上AOC那几个丑角,能在自由国度竞选上议员, 我不由得深深怀疑人性,或是那句话 人间不值得
xiqi 发表于 7/18/2019 5:10:13 PM


同怀疑 一人一票的民主就是好吗?
pig0019

美国忍受这么多年的贸易逆差就是在做公益。中国不遵守合约能拖就拖就是耍流氓。

catakiri 发表于 7/18/2019 7:27:52 PM


中国人赚得是血汗钱。美国人不愿意做的苦工。
ScottishFold

你看看过去三十年日本生不如死的样子。这不就是傻吗。

pig0019 发表于 7/18/2019 5:53:29 PM


中国不签协议就上关税呗,效果是一样的。
大ID的马甲
回复 2楼约拿的帖子

明州的共和党太废物了。她的问题在明州当议员就有,出于政治正确,黑人女穆斯林难民,明州共和党都不敢说她。现在跑到全国面前出丑。
I
Inferno


对啊,跟自己亲哥哥结婚来骗美国身份。

pig0019 发表于 7/18/2019 2:35:40 PM

啊,是亲哥哥啊。阿拉允许么?
大ID的马甲

这事是真的假的?
elee555 发表于 7/18/2019 2:38:55 PM


以前报税记录被公布了,是有问题
Hikari2019
支持川普的华人是最恶心的
馒头的老婆
Omar不是她的真last name,她12歲asylum來美,是跟著omar family來的。她弟弟和姐姐去難民身分去的英國。她和老公沒有register marriage,後來和她弟弟註冊結婚,她弟弟來美國和她一起念dakoda state。兩人到2017才離婚。期間她和真的老公生了三個孩子。三個右派記者把她扒了個底朝天,證據確鑿。網上傳遍了可是MSM一直壓著不報導
hr717 发表于 7/18/2019 5:30:37 PM

怎么哥哥又变成弟弟了?2016年她竞选明州众议员时就传她结婚的目的是这个哥哥要骗美国身份,她那年就当选了。这种州议员犯法行为为什么3年了都拿不出证据来,把他哥哥申请美国身份的资料让大家看看不就完了?不比网上一个blogger的话可信多了?

ytwk 发表于 7/18/2019 5:46:29 PM

英语里的brother不是既可以指哥哥也可以指弟弟吗。前面都说是brother,又没说是big brother。 你为什么非要以为是哥哥呢?
t
thetisea


中国人赚得是血汗钱。美国人不愿意做的苦工。

pig0019 发表于 7/18/2019 7:44:12 PM


朱镕基当年访美说中国人做一亿件衬衫才能换一架波音飞机,说美国做慈善的是搞笑的么。
happy3001
也不想想穆斯林和以色列是什么关系。那些猪党犹太大佬等着被反噬吧。
大ID的马甲
觉得她和亲哥哥结婚骗绿卡是真的。 她唯一的说辞是凡是揭露她劣迹的全是racist。

The Powerline blog claimed in an investigative report published Thursday that Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) not only married her brother, but also received asylum as a child after her family used a false name.

The extensive blog post was written by David Steinberg, who did much of the initial reporting on Omar that was re-traced by the Minneapolis Star Tribune after a state ethics investigation revealed last month that she had filed joint tax returns for two years with one man while married to another.


Steinberg claims that Omar is actually one of five siblings in the Elmi family from Somalia. Three of the siblings were granted asylum in the United Kingdom, while two were granted asylum in the United States, including the father, Sternberg alleges.

He further alleges: “The Omar family is a second, unrelated family which was being granted asylum by the United States. The Omars allowed Ilhan, her genetic sister Sahra, and her genetic father Nur Said to use false names to apply for asylum as members of the Omar family.”

Steinberg also alleges that Rep. Omar married her alleged brother, Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, in 2009: he had already reportedly been granted asylum in the UK. Following the marriage, he allegedly went on to study at North Dakota State University.

Elmi allegedly lived with her and with Ahmed Hirsi, the father of her children and the man to whom she says she had been married in an Islamic ceremony in 2002, while he studied. He allegedly left the U.S. shortly thereafter.

Omar reportedly divorced Elmi in 2017 and legally married Hirsi a short time later. However, she filed joint tax returns with Hirsi for 2014 and 2015 while still legally married to Elmi.


Omar paid a lawyer to help her deal with the situation, the state ethics investigation confirmed. The campaign finance violation occurred when she used campaign funds to pay the lawyer for what was a non-campaign-related purpose.

Steinberg notes that Omar was 12 years old at the time her family entered the U.S., and so “had no say” in the matter. However, he adds, she is now under scrutiny for later actions as an adult, including her marriages, tax filings, and campaign expenditures.

The Daily Mail, reporting Wednesday on the allegations about Omar’s marriage, noted that the official who performed Omar’s legal marriage to Elmi was a Christian minister.

In the past, Omar has called allegations that she married her brother “disgusting lies.” She also claimed that accusations of campaign finance violations against her, some of which were later vindicated, were motivated by anti-Muslim prejudice.

Breitbart News reached out to Rep. Omar’s office for comment Thursday and received no response.

tiffany2013 发表于 7/18/2019 3:19:27 PM


“Omar has made a career of denouncing anyone and anything in her way as racist. That would include virtually all of her political and personal opponents, and even inanimate objects。”
任何质疑Omar的都是种族主义者
,Tucker说的太对了
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Inferno

美国的无赖流氓都是这样的, 你看那大街上吵架的homeless都是这个态度。
有点尊严的人都知道引咎辞职。

民主党自己也是很懊悔,本来想养一堆难民给自己投选票,没想到人家要推翻了他自己来。。

不走正道,被反噬。

老祖宗的话说的很对,在美国同样适用。

不娶何撩 发表于 7/18/2019 3:19:30 PM

希望民主党内正直的人开始觉醒
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Inferno
Omar不是她的真last name,她12歲asylum來美,是跟著omar family來的。她弟弟和姐姐去難民身分去的英國。她和老公沒有register marriage,後來和她弟弟註冊結婚,她弟弟來美國和她一起念dakoda state。兩人到2017才離婚。期間她和真的老公生了三個孩子。三個右派記者把她扒了個底朝天,證據確鑿。網上傳遍了可是MSM一直壓著不報導
hr717 发表于 7/18/2019 5:30:37 PM

川普是不是早得到消息了才发那么狠的话?
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美国忍受这么多年的贸易逆差就是在做公益。中国不遵守合约能拖就拖就是耍流氓。

catakiri 发表于 7/18/2019 7:27:52 PM


你公司付你这么多年工资也是做公益。你赶紧有点良心连本带息还给人家。
大ID的马甲
说她作假不是她的身份作假 是有人怀疑她第二段婚姻是为了给男的办身份
她这个case的确很shady 她一开始和男A结婚但是没扯证 生了几个娃之后分手 和男B结婚办了证 然后很快又宣布和B分居 在分居到正式离婚的几年内和A和好又生了A的娃
所以被怀疑的是她和B的婚姻是否真实。。。。

实话讲这怎么看都很黑历史啊 这样的黑历史都能从政真厉害。。。。
梅干茶泡饭 发表于 7/18/2019 3:25:04 PM


👍 她和第一个男的,生娃,一起报税,但是没有结婚证。她和第二个领了结婚证,但是很快又离了。然后又和娃爸第一个男的领证了。和第二个就是假结婚,办绿卡。

另外,看到的是第一个男的是她哥,随她爸姓,来美国但不知为何没法办绿卡。所以她就以假结婚办了,帮他拿的婚姻绿卡。

这种假结婚的婚姻绿卡,一般也查不出来吧。好像记得文迪就是这样拿的?
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👍 她和第一个男的,生娃,一起报税,但是没有结婚证。她和第二个领了结婚证,但是很快又离了。然后又和娃爸第一个男的领证了。和第二个就是假结婚,办绿卡。

另外,看到的是第一个男的是她哥,随她爸姓,来美国但不知为何没法办绿卡。所以她就以假结婚办了,帮他拿的婚姻绿卡。

这种假结婚的婚姻绿卡,一般也查不出来吧。好像记得文迪就是这样拿的?

大ID的马甲 发表于 7/18/2019 8:06:47 PM

越来越觉得好人上天堂坏人走四方,都不知道该咋教育孩子了。
大ID的马甲


2016年就有人传了,既然是ethics调查骗身份应该属于调查范畴啊。

ytwk 发表于 7/18/2019 4:07:04 PM


不只是这事,别的滥用竞选基金,接受不正当资金的丑闻她也有。明州的共和党最怂了,就没敢查过Omar,生怕被扣上种族歧视的帽子。
大ID的马甲
Omar不是她的真last name,她12歲asylum來美,是跟著omar family來的。她弟弟和姐姐去難民身分去的英國。她和老公沒有register marriage,後來和她弟弟註冊結婚,她弟弟來美國和她一起念dakoda state。兩人到2017才離婚。期間她和真的老公生了三個孩子。三個右派記者把她扒了個底朝天,證據確鑿。網上傳遍了可是MSM一直壓著不報導
hr717 发表于 7/18/2019 5:30:37 PM


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streamwood
出丑?有啥丑的。前面活生生的Elizabeth Warren 例子。她有多少印第安人的血缘全国都知道了,还继续再次当选麻省senator, 还追着要那一百万。任何事情对于他们都不会是出丑。


回复2楼约拿的帖子
明州的共和党太废物了。她的问题在明州当议员就有,出于政治正确,黑人女穆斯林难民,明州共和党都不敢说她。现在跑到全国面前出丑。

大ID的马甲 发表于 7/18/2019 7:53:00 PM
ytwk

申请美国身份的资料是被法律保护的隐私 非本人或者有法院命令 别人一概拿不到的 这么关注政治是不是也该有点法律常识 就算你本人要去移民局找你当初递交的材料 也是要填表申请才能拿到 你以为是上网查real estate record?

SurelyNaked 发表于 7/18/2019 6:43:25 PM


你自己有没有法律常识?她如果真是为了骗取美国身份和哥哥结婚就是非法行为。任何人有别人违法的证据都可以向FBI或移民局举报要求调查。2016年到现在还没有调查结果?前面还有人说州政府有对她进行了ethics investigatin,调查结论也没有提起关于欺骗身份。没人拿得出确凿证据就指控不就是散步谣言?