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控诉一个医生拆散上百家庭的报道是2002年的，今年是2019年了，要是那个医生真是十恶不赦，17年了那上百个家庭都拿他没辙？他爹是李刚吗？ Susan Chen的案子，除非孩子没有严重营养不良和发育延迟，否则医生没有大错。另外，娃爹这些年在干啥？
aiyamayayongle 发表于 5/22/2019 11:00:09 AM
你没有认真读吧？报道里面说（1) 医生让孩子控制carb，这些病历里面肯定会有的，但是起诉书却没有，反而被描述成“she wasn't directed to do so by any doctor"!! (2) 她送孩子去ER，医生让孩子离开，这些基本事实病历里面肯定应该有的，但是起诉书里面描述为chen 自己把孩子从er 带走。报道：“Chen did not remove him from the hospital on her own" 这句话明显就是说她被诬告成 自己把孩子从er 带走，但是明明就是“discharged by ER doctor".
My Mom is a retired lawyer. It is very rare for federal court to appoint counsel for civil matters. It must have been a meritorious case! I agree with the previous post that the state courts should appoint counsel for innocent, underprivileged, particularly a meritorious case! Want to know — what are the facts the police had been "deliberately indifferent"? what exactly that caused the wrongful prosecution? I found some, maybe more? "Carter also discovered that, at one point, the child was discharged from the emergency room by the ER doctor and that Chen did not remove him from the hospital on her own. His creatinine levels — used as a marker for kidney health — were inaccurately reported during the 72-hour hearing."It is quite normal that "health care visits came from doctor referrals to other specialists" so it does not make sense to say "refusing to share information among the providers". 明显就是chen送孩子去ER，但是检察官竟然不知道这一点。证据明显被隐瞒了。常识是看专科需要referral，但是警察说chen refusing to share information — Does this sentence suggest that the above information was unknown to the "King County prosecutor"? Or "materially misleading" provided by police? Either way, an innocent person's life was ruined by this detective. It is damning that police "were inaccurately reported during the 72-hour hearing."In these days, we read more and more stories about the police's misconduct but the police almost never face reprimands or punishment for any wrongdoing. prosecutors are required to receive legal education but police do not. Police make all kinds of arbitrary and capricious decisions- this needs to be changed! 够恶心的是法庭听证会上提供给法庭关于孩子的肾功能指数是错误。 "When the child's Oregon physician recommended she put her child on restrictive diets, in order to weed out when the child's Oregon physician recommended she put her child on restrictive diets, in order to weed out and locate the potential cause for her child's gastrointestinal problems and aid his autism disorder, she complied." v. "The Redmond detective wrote that Chen was restricting her child from eating things, such as carbohydrates, even though she wasn't directed to do so by any doctor". —This is malicious, undoubtedly! 明明是因为孩子消化问题，医生要求控制carb，但是警察竟然说chen 不给孩子吃东西，比如carb，完全没有医生要求。这不是睁眼说瞎话吗？ "the child was discharged from the emergency room by the ER doctor and that Chen did not remove him from the hospital on her own". Did the police inaccurately report Chen removed the child from the hospital but in fact she did not? I am pissed off! — "the lawsuit alleges "the misdiagnoses of the Seattle Children's doctors". What exactly are the misdiagnoses? "creatinine levels"? Completely unclear. Could the author provide this information to us? It is a good story, will love to learn the follow-ups.
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真是过分：”The King County prosecutor said she “recklessly” created an “imminent and substantial risk of death or great bodily harm” to her child by withholding the basic necessities of life.“
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In this country, child protection is very strict. Doctors must report any suspicious behavior or observation of child abuse/neglect/ etc to the child protection centers. It is a must-do thing.
In this country, child protection is very strict. Doctors must report any suspicious behavior or observation of child abuse/neglect/ etc to the child protection centers. It is a must-do thing.
gooder 发表于 5/22/2019 6:25:22 PM
When CPS becomes a tool for doctors to act against innocent parents. It is so scaring! This is no longer an issue of child protection, but a child kidnapping.
When CPS becomes a tool for doctors to act against innocent parents. It is so scaring! This is no longer an issue of child protection, but a child kidnapping.
zhujian20 发表于 5/22/2019 6:31:07 PM
I don't think doctors want to act against the innocents. They are very busy. By reporting the case, doctors need to do extra work. One more thing could give them a whole bad day, unless they must do it.
I don't think doctors want to act against the innocents. They are very busy. By reporting the case, doctors need to do extra work. One more thing could give them a whole bad day, unless they must do it.
gooder 发表于 5/22/2019 7:00:21 PM
According to the SeattlePI reports, Seattle Children's hospital doctors had mistakenly been acting at least over 100 innocent parents. When making a decision that might affect a person's life, "BUSY" can never be an excuse! Shame for Seattle Children's Hospital!!
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这是一个非常冤枉的案件。故事就是：一个母亲带孩子去ER，但是警察提供给检察官的文件说她不肯去。医生要求控制孩子的carb（因为消化问题）但是警察说医生没有这样说。警察还说孩子看的14 个医生不知道彼此，但是常识是看专科需要referral。
这个案件并不是什么疑难杂症，冤枉的是明显有人捏造和隐瞒证据，是非颠倒。
文章最后可以发布评论了（一直拉到尽头就可以了），呼吁大家在文章最后发表言论，支持这个无辜的母亲。一起呼吁政府调查西雅图儿童医院，保护孩子。
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西雅图的朋友请支持对儿童医院的调查，外州的朋友也请支持西雅图的孩子们！谢谢。
刚刚看了一个帖子，https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2419452&page=1
看的很生气。身在西雅图，不可避免的去西雅图儿童医院。为了我的孩子不成为下一个受害者。大家在文章后发表评论，一起呼吁政府调查西雅图儿童医院！
https://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Persecuted-parents-or-protected-children-1092970.php
你没看那个链接吗？同一个医生乱报告CPS导致上百个家庭破裂。真是太过分了！
你是搞笑来的吧？！！！我刚刚看了一个报道是关于 错误器官移植，更令人愤慨的是这个移植之前就发现是错误的，医生竟然坚持移植！！！！！！简直是草菅人命！一个医院的一个医生闹出上百个冤案，还保护孩子？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
我不能胡乱相信。根据我知道的样本，很多时候儿童保护机构并不是华人说的那样。我不能别人说啥就马上相信。
搜索一下 medical kidnapping 看看有多少惊心动魄的案件！不管怎样，一个医院在得知器官移植是错误的时候竟然坚持错误的决定，这是一个孩子的一生啊！我很震惊也很愤怒！一个医院出了这么多的错误，绝对是医院的问题！
控诉一个医生拆散上百家庭的报道是2002年的，今年是2019年了，要是那个医生真是十恶不赦，17年了那上百个家庭都拿他没辙？他爹是李刚吗？
Susan Chen的案子，除非孩子没有严重营养不良和发育延迟，否则医生没有大错。另外，娃爹这些年在干啥？
就是啊，怎么可能这个医生碰到这么多虐待孩子的家长呢？！而同一个医院的其他医生就没碰上呢？
你没有认真读吧？报道里面说（1) 医生让孩子控制carb，这些病历里面肯定会有的，但是起诉书却没有，反而被描述成“she wasn't directed to do so by any doctor"!! (2) 她送孩子去ER，医生让孩子离开，这些基本事实病历里面肯定应该有的，但是起诉书里面描述为chen 自己把孩子从er 带走。报道：“Chen did not remove him from the hospital on her own" 这句话明显就是说她被诬告成 自己把孩子从er 带走，但是明明就是“discharged by ER doctor".
还有说她看的14 个医生互相不知道，但是证据显示医生是根据referral的，怎么可能不知道呢?
这些种种事实证据，令人气愤！
明显就是医生隐瞒证据！还不够恶心！！！
这个案件实在太太冤枉了！
郑重回复你：我不是耗子。西雅图儿童医院制造了这么多起冤案，呼吁政府调查不是理所当然的吗？
https://www.change.org/p/united-states-congress-stop-the-federal-funding-to-child-protective-services-to-kidnap-our-children
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My Mom is a retired lawyer. It is very rare for federal court to appoint counsel for civil matters. It must have been a meritorious case! I agree with the previous post that the state courts should appoint counsel for innocent, underprivileged, particularly a meritorious case! Want to know — what are the facts the police had been "deliberately indifferent"? what exactly that caused the wrongful prosecution? I found some, maybe more? "Carter also discovered that, at one point, the child was discharged from the emergency room by the ER doctor and that Chen did not remove him from the hospital on her own. His creatinine levels — used as a marker for kidney health — were inaccurately reported during the 72-hour hearing."It is quite normal that "health care visits came from doctor referrals to other specialists" so it does not make sense to say "refusing to share information among the providers". 明显就是chen送孩子去ER，但是检察官竟然不知道这一点。证据明显被隐瞒了。 常识是看专科需要referral，但是警察说chen refusing to share information — Does this sentence suggest that the above information was unknown to the "King County prosecutor"? Or "materially misleading" provided by police? Either way, an innocent person's life was ruined by this detective. It is damning that police "were inaccurately reported during the 72-hour hearing."In these days, we read more and more stories about the police's misconduct but the police almost never face reprimands or punishment for any wrongdoing. prosecutors are required to receive legal education but police do not. Police make all kinds of arbitrary and capricious decisions- this needs to be changed! 够恶心的是法庭听证会上提供给法庭关于孩子的肾功能指数是错误。 "When the child's Oregon physician recommended she put her child on restrictive diets, in order to weed out when the child's Oregon physician recommended she put her child on restrictive diets, in order to weed out and locate the potential cause for her child's gastrointestinal problems and aid his autism disorder, she complied." v. "The Redmond detective wrote that Chen was restricting her child from eating things, such as carbohydrates, even though she wasn't directed to do so by any doctor". —This is malicious, undoubtedly! 明明是因为孩子消化问题，医生要求控制carb，但是警察竟然说chen 不给孩子吃东西，比如carb，完全没有医生要求。这不是睁眼说瞎话吗？ "the child was discharged from the emergency room by the ER doctor and that Chen did not remove him from the hospital on her own". Did the police inaccurately report Chen removed the child from the hospital but in fact she did not? I am pissed off! — "the lawsuit alleges "the misdiagnoses of the Seattle Children's doctors". What exactly are the misdiagnoses? "creatinine levels"? Completely unclear. Could the author provide this information to us? It is a good story, will love to learn the follow-ups.
妈的，太太冤枉！！！！这真是比窦娥还要冤！！！
overreact 源于利益相关。上面那个petition里面有说，希拉里提议克林顿签署的那个act，这样的overreact可以获得联邦财政支柱，而且不需承担风险责任。
医生是专业人士，跟工程师，会计师一样，不能全信，也不能不信，找到自己信任的那个医生，同时对医生的话要有自我思考能力。每次孩子打预防针，我一定会跟护士确认是不是今天应该打的。过程中，确实遇到过护士搞错预防针的事情。
作为病人，其实是客户，客户虽然付钱得道医疗服务，但是自己才是最应该为自己负责的那个。同样，对于未成年孩子来说，父母是最应该对他们负责的。
我一般遇到不靠铺的医生（凭感觉和直觉判断），当面不会如何。因为大多数医生都很臭屁，当面批评他们受不了。但是作为消费者，我可以以后再不去看。最关键的是找到好的家庭医生，儿医，遇到不喜欢的专科医生，他们可以配合refer新的。如果家庭医生不好，立马换。
同意。 美国医生质量很差。 看个病比上班还累。 哪些真的有大病的人，不是被折腾死了
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还是有许多很好的医生的。其实跟牙医一样。选牙医更烦，选择更多。好的医生沟通很顺利，结果也很好。我动过手术的，所以深有感触。
这种情况一定要儿医给力。我家儿医遇到过类似情况。他都直接给电话号码家长，遇到问题直接call他，他去沟通。医生跟医生容易沟通。他不但跟专科医生沟通，也要跟政府沟通，学校沟通，好的医生是很负责的，也很人道。
社工大部分也是很好的。不是专门找碴的。
对于确实有虐待儿童嫌疑的，我支持举报。国内那种冷漠的环境，事不关己高高挂起的态度，不应该发生。
想起前几天法国那个为了名医称号，给病人下毒再抢救搞死好些人的新闻了
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这的确是疏于照顾，甚至虐待孩子的red flag. 有什么问题吗？
这里牵涉很多医学不常见病和孩子差异性，一般中国孩子有些不吃饭的，而且本来父母就矮小的孩子看起来就瘦，不是高糖催出来的当然没那么“健康”。也有皮孩子经常摔跤的，身上紫一块青一块不少，有的就是被蚊子咬的，这也不存在虐待吧？你说的好像中国父母都虐待成性似的，这边不需要你有证据，怀疑就可以报。
每次看完医生包括ER都会给你一张discharge paper，上面都会明确写着医嘱是什么，这不是说医生说怎样，你说怎样，起诉书又说怎样的，这都是有白纸黑字证据的。
不要跟我争辩，自己读报道去。明显就是检察官开始被警察蒙骗起诉，后来在证据面前撤诉了。简单说，就是母亲被指控要饿死孩子但是事实并非如此。
真是过分：”The King County prosecutor said she “recklessly” created an “imminent and substantial risk of death or great bodily harm” to her child by withholding the basic necessities of life.“
明明是医生说要控制carb，结果警察说她不给孩子吃东西，要饿死他？可怕的警察，杀人不见血！
你去过Seattle children's吗？我带娃看专科看了不下十次，所有的after visit summary里面都没有详细的医嘱，urgent care看过一次倒是有。
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In this country, child protection is very strict. Doctors must report any suspicious behavior or observation of child abuse/neglect/ etc to the child protection centers. It is a must-do thing.
When CPS becomes a tool for doctors to act against innocent parents. It is so scaring!
This is no longer an issue of child protection, but a child kidnapping.
重要是技术，重要的是找的人的人品。好人品加上技术好，即使多一半钱，根本不个事。有人三分钟永远FIX的问题，有人让你跑来回10次花一堆钱解决不了，甚至越搞越坏。
I don't think doctors want to act against the innocents. They are very busy. By reporting the case, doctors need to do extra work. One more thing could give them a whole bad day, unless they must do it.
According to the SeattlePI reports, Seattle Children's hospital doctors had mistakenly been acting at least over 100 innocent parents. When making a decision that might affect a person's life, "BUSY" can never be an excuse! Shame for Seattle Children's Hospital!!
看不出关医院什么大问题。是社会福利保障，公诉系统有漏洞。告医院只是因为医院钱多而已。 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
一个医院诬告超过上百的家庭，还没有问题！！
唯一一个我不太满意的遗传科医生 开始也很好很nice 后来几次的随访加上基因检测结果出来估计我娃的病和他的研究领域不在一个方向 他没有兴趣 门诊的时候显得有些敷衍了 但是他也没有要把我们转给其他相关领域医生的意思 后来我们马上让基因科医生帮忙换了一个相关领域的专家了。
他们有个医生是一个罕见病专家。
这个病的表现就是妈妈毒害孩子让孩子得病，然后不停的带孩子看病以获得关注。
据说这个病发病率是百万分之一，但他是专家吗，所以他一个人就确诊了上千例。
你想想有多少误诊的诬告的。
碰上这么个狗屁专家，真是倒了八辈子霉
你碰到的医生没问题不能代表西雅图儿童医院没有败类。一个医生竟然有超过一百个误诊导致这么多家庭家破人亡。不管怎么说，西雅图儿童医院还是问题多多的。