Even I didn't follow the news closely, I knew this from the news conference Jiang's mom held after the sentencing. Her explanation is acceptable to me. I also read some people mentioned she was remarried and divorced again after or around the incident. Overall, I don't find what she said/acted much wrong or seriously wrong so far. On the contrary, what Liu said and acted looks seriously wrong to me.
Liu asked Jiang to wait for her that night at a station. Jiang waited. This event pretty much led to Jiang killed by her ex boyfriend later that night. Liu doesn't sincerely feel sorry even just for that. To me, that is a serious flaw in character.
In addition, after courting hearings, we learned different stories told by chen and liu about what happened that night. This only brought more questions and doubts on what exactly happened that night inside and outside that door between chen and liu.
Jiang's mom told the public that Chen's sister stayed in a hotel not far from Liu's home. Without any pressure, will chen or liu tell the touth? With pressure, they may still not tell the touth, but Jiang's mom is making her efforts. So far I see Jiang's mother's goal is still the truth.
You believe sincerity of Liu's sorry, Liu's testimony. A lot of people like me don't feel sincerity of Liu's sorry. After her testimony, we have more doubts on what role Liu played that night at the scene. I don't think police investigation of this killing is successful. If the killing was in china, Liu or Chen may already pressured to tell more truth to the police.
You believe sincerity of Liu's sorry, Liu's testimony. A lot of people like me don't feel sincerity of Liu's sorry. After her testimony, we have more doubts on what role Liu played that night at the scene. I don't think police investigation of this killing is successful. If the killing was in china, Liu or Chen may already pressured to tell more truth to the police.
Liu asked Jiang to wait for her that night at a station. Jiang waited. This event pretty much led to Jiang killed by her ex boyfriend later that night. Liu doesn't sincerely feel sorry even just for that. To me, that is a serious flaw in character.
In addition, after courting hearings, we learned different stories told by chen and liu about what happened that night. This only brought more questions and doubts on what exactly happened that night inside and outside that door between chen and liu.
You believe sincerity of Liu's sorry, Liu's testimony. A lot of people like me don't feel sincerity of Liu's sorry. After her testimony, we have more doubts on what role Liu played that night at the scene. I don't think police investigation of this killing is successful. If the killing was in china, Liu or Chen may already pressured to tell more truth to the police.
她2016年结婚不正是说明了20多年未嫁抚养江歌吗？其他的，别说的这么含糊和扑风捉影的， 给实锤。比如给照片或者链接证明她撒谎了，她要钱了，她到底怎么怎么了。
我天天上微博和知乎，我怎么看到的都是绝大部分人在骂刘鑫和陈世峰，支持江歌的妈妈。
另外要江歌的妈妈是老佛爷，你是啥？拿钱发帖的太监还是奴婢？
照片或者链接证明她要钱了
再黑江歌妈妈， 刘鑫一家也洗不白， 赶紧滚出大众视野吧。
微博多少人发文被打赏！如果江歌妈妈四处要钱募捐，你看还有人打赏她么？不就是因为她没公开募捐，没有众筹，所以关心她的人才打赏么。刘鑫洗白文还有人打赏呢。
众筹
不管江歌妈妈收了多少捐款， 刘鑫也洗不白！ 最恶心的是现在刘鑫还很委屈， 说明她早就原谅自己或者一开始就没怪过自己， 所以大家也永远不会原谅她。
“非常过意不去，而且有一种被施舍的感觉，特别不能接受。其实每次跟人家说一声感谢的时候吧，心情很复杂，有感激、感谢，有自卑，感觉自己成了一个乞丐，在乞讨。我可以受任何的委屈，天下任何的委屈我都可以承受，只要为了江歌。我不能因为没有钱打不起官司，去不了日本，我就不做这件事情，所以我宁可去乞求，我也一定要为江歌去讨回公道。”
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好的楼主，我给你道歉，确实众筹了这事我不知道，新闻我贴在楼上了，是今年三月的事情（难怪大家都不知道！）。要说圈钱江妈和其“背后利益团队”为什么不等局面播了视频之后再骗一次？？为什么三月筹，那时候有几个人关注这事情？你质疑也有个份好吗？江妈16年再婚，不管真的假的，和刘鑫这事有什么关系？
Even I didn't follow the news closely, I knew this from the news conference Jiang's mom held after the sentencing.
Her explanation is acceptable to me.
I also read some people mentioned she was remarried and divorced again after or around the incident.
Overall, I don't find what she said/acted much wrong or seriously wrong so far.
On the contrary, what Liu said and acted looks seriously wrong to me.
Lz 你有时间不如去同情人真的需要帮助的人， 这么替一个自私自利的刘鑫鸣不平用意何在？ 鸡蛋里面挑骨头的这么抹黑一个丧女的母亲， 良心何安？
哪位母亲想以女儿生命的代价换取那点钱。你跟刘垃圾一路货色，你妈就算想卖了你，你也一钱不值。
楼主你就是一个装睡的人。
我去江妈妈的微博上看了，她是说过带情绪的话，可是没觉得她说的过分，从她的角度，残忍杀人犯还活着没有偿命，这就是她不能接受的。所以她有激进的言辞可以理解。
另外特别重要的一点就是江妈妈的不妥的行为不能作为给刘鑫摆脱责任的理由
其实我对于所有捐款的事情都是一个观点，任何人只要没有故意隐瞒事实发起捐款都没有错，谁愿意捐款就捐款，你不想捐就别捐， 任何人都可以发起捐款，只有有人愿意捐给你，只要不是骗捐
刘鑫也可以发起捐款，就看谁给她捐了，我肯定不捐
江妈做的事情，合情合理合法。心没长歪的都给予深切同情和支持。你要不是刘鑫本人，家人，亲友，领钱的，那真是脑子坏掉了。回家问你爹娘你是不是发昏了。
你在乎江歌妈妈的伤痛了？？？你说她造谣说她圈钱那些是为了抚慰她那颗受伤的心灵吗？
包括楼主在内的那几个都是假借着善名，号称是想帮江妈走出来，实际上是行居委会大妈之实，强行干涉别人生活
有种说法叫“完美被害人”，这几位居委会资深大妈就是秉承这个想法，心心念念让江妈忘掉仇恨，宽容刘鑫，最好给陈世峰缝条被子送监狱去表达一下江妈的爱心
在不知道事情始末的时候，大家都是中立的态度，现在看了这么多报道，看了这么多刘鑫的发言，不是 前面有人指出刘鑫一开始说以为外面的是日本流氓么？ 可是她明明用中文再和外面的人说话，这还不是撒谎么？所有细节避而不答，躲躲闪闪，无关紧要的细节阐述的那么清楚，为啥选择性失忆还能让你觉得她是无辜的？
她可以锁门，可以不出来，这些没有错，错就错在到现在为止，都没有给大家，给江妈妈一个完整的事实真相， 她有么？ 她那篇所为“我不在沉默， 案发现场(1)" 。案发现场正确解读是什么意思？就是案件发生的时候的现场，她说了半句案发时候的事情么？ 我真心不懂她发这篇微博的用意何在！不在沉默，难道不应该把她知道案发始末说出来么？法院已经判决了，还有什么不能说
你在乎江妈的伤痛？体现在哪里啦？要不是多出你发帖搅浑水的这一份贡献，哪儿来对她的反噬，变成闹剧？
众筹，打赏是事实，so what? 哪里有问题？这么大的一个社会事件江妈不说也一定肯定确定会有好心人给她资助或者给她张罗这些。也绝对会有很多很多的好心人愿意为江妈捐款。就好象你之前沉痛地宣布江妈现在还沉浸在仇恨她还没有走出来一样，她走不出来再正常不过了，你这么大惊小怪主要是因为一来缺乏善良和同情心，二来自己家里没出这种事所以无法体会吧？
那你可以给刘鑫当智囊团帮着搜集证据去告江妈啊？或者给刘鑫张罗众筹募捐打官司也可以啊！
这样你就可以彻彻底底地把对江妈伤痛的在乎表达出来了嘛，也算是帮江妈走出仇恨尽一份心力嘛
Liu asked Jiang to wait for her that night at a station.
Jiang waited.
This event pretty much led to Jiang killed by her ex boyfriend later that night.
Liu doesn't sincerely feel sorry even just for that.
To me, that is a serious flaw in character.
In addition, after courting hearings, we learned different stories told by chen and liu about what happened that night.
This only brought more questions and doubts on what exactly happened that night inside and outside that door between chen and liu.
陈世峰同学在法庭上和律师同哭，还两次下跪谢罪，想拿法庭当二傻子耍，还不是被法官陪审团判断为“毫无悔意”吗，有句老话，听其言，观其行， 说得再怎么沉痛说一万次也没用吧，这里谁是二傻子看不出来啊
那善良就仅仅是骂刘鑫，义愤填膺。对吗？
嗯，你要是没开这个帖子，她肯定要少挨两句骂。你还非下定决定要管江妈走不走出来呀。不要求她本人，就要求她身边的人？？？你是想让她身边的人多劝她几句让她走出来？要是她身边的人脑子都够清楚，够尊重江妈本人意愿呢？你是不是要呼吁她身边的人的身边的人去给她身边的人洗脑？
Jiang's mom told the public that Chen's sister stayed in a hotel not far from Liu's home.
Without any pressure, will chen or liu tell the touth?
With pressure, they may still not tell the touth, but Jiang's mom is making her efforts.
So far I see Jiang's mother's goal is still the truth.
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈，律师说不能得出刀是陈的，还有这出呢，这不是说明她妈换得好么？检方各种证据判断是陈的，法院判决也是陈的，难道不是那个律师水平差么？连这个都能洗了。你这么可惜律师，你让他给你打官司呗。越来越好笑了。
法官公布江歌案5大判决依据：刀是陈世峰的，不是刘鑫给江歌的，陈世峰是有计划谋杀，没有悔意。 法院认为，刀是陈世峰事先准备的，杀害江歌和刘鑫的意图事先就有，且杀意强烈。
不服法院用情感绑架法律，众酬给陈上诉呗，别光说不练。
你就是刘垃圾本人吧。我们就愿意捐款给江妈；也很欣慰地看到你像个过街老鼠一样人人喊打，不仅现在而且将来都耻辱地苟活着。
楼主口口声声说心疼江妈，请问这里的ID有人看出来她的心疼了吗？
陈世峰嘴里说因为自卫误刺了江歌一刀，心里很想救江歌，其实就是这个恶魔在江歌脖子上狠狠刺十几二十刀。。。有什么两样
真拿这里的网友当傻瓜啊
You believe sincerity of Liu's sorry, Liu's testimony.
A lot of people like me don't feel sincerity of Liu's sorry.
After her testimony, we have more doubts on what role Liu played that night at the scene.
I don't think police investigation of this killing is successful.
If the killing was in china, Liu or Chen may already pressured to tell more truth to the police.
你在这里和网友打嘴仗几天，有用吗？是非公道自在人心，这个世界上像你们这种极其无耻卑鄙懦弱恶毒的人毕竟是少数，绝大部份善良有正义感的人，但凡看见你们这种不知悔改的东西，非呸几句不可！
我们就是要支持江歌的妈妈采取法律措施让刘贱人受到她早就应得的惩罚，以告慰江歌的在天之灵！！！
快滚吧你！！！
平均硕士以上都能戳到你的玻璃心？这又是哪处？？
完全同意这句
这个楼主辩白好几天了，如果你真的觉得江妈妈所做的事情已经越过了法律的边界，可以去告她。
这是为了说明什么问题？是江妈一直躲着刘鑫？还是刘鑫一直积极主动地应对了江妈？还是你认为江妈说刘鑫全家躲着不见她拉黑她是撒谎？
刘鑫微博上说不去告江妈，江妈记者会上说要告刘鑫。
支持告。民事责任有可能有case。
刘鑫还有脸告江妈？ 支持她告， 随便作， 看能作出什么报应。
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等看刘鑫的民事责任。
楼主对于江妈的各种“看不过眼”根本就无法掩盖啊，还假模假式地心疼啊在乎啊，也就差演员的诞生了
我也总算是看明白楼主想唱的是哪一出来
楼主向网友们严肃地指出江妈有下列值得令人发指的行为，众筹打赏，更换律师，走不出仇恨，不原谅刘鑫，并且有更严重的违法犯罪行为，江妈背后更有不帮助她走出仇恨的别有用心的利益集团。。。通过这些沉痛的提点，希望网友们被点醒大吃一惊、从而对江妈另眼相看，实现楼主所说的反转，从此由骂刘鑫变成骂江妈。这就是楼主标题的寓意： 江歌刘鑫案的反转
楼主我知道你肯定不是那样的逻辑的，不然也不会为了素不相识的人打抱不平。
这个事件，越来越感觉是基于利益推动，而不是公平和理智。江和章，都是在吃人血馒头，趁机发死人财。
还不滚？！祝你早点遇到下一个陈XX， 就消停了
刘当然要为自己的证词负责！余下的你的那些言论只能证明你是脑残！刘见江妈是情义，不见是道理！证人不能随便见当事人这个道理你这个脑残还不懂？！她做错了什么需要面对江妈与你们这些脑残？她为什么需要背负你们这些伪善者们强加给的道德枷锁？！旧社会流言蜚语可以逼死一个弱女子，但今天不能！我不怕还有更多的脑残来攻击我！我要当刘鑫的保护神！！！
让所有脑残的污言秽语冲我来吧！
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看看柏杨的《丑陋的中国人》吧！中国人不仅仍旧丑陋，还变本加厉了。
建议看看老梁说这个案子。
刘错在：
一是分手就分手，不要拖泥带水，分手后还接受陈送的包包，给对方复合希望；
二是找一起打工的人假扮男友，让陈感到被耍，激怒陈；
二是连累江被害，事后对江妈没有及时安抚，家人还有不当言论攻击江妈；
四是去见江妈，故意戴个小红帽去