去gofundme网站看了一眼, 原来是本地一个小银行代表law firm发起的捐款, 搞得跟是U of I官方活动似的. "由学校"三个字说得好大言不惭. Created June 17, 2017 U of I Community Credit Union on behalf of Maatuka Al-Heeti Dorantes Emkes LLC Law firm Emergencies CHAMPAIGN, IL
以前对gofundme还是有一定信任的，虽然它家要收不少手续费。这回发现它家有巨大的问题啊，这个捐款目的，捐款额度想改就可以改的？而且前面写的捐款目的都可以一笔抹掉不留痕迹的？ 对了，created那一栏也可以改，之前就是 U of I community Credit Union, 现在加上了on behalf of 。。。。
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其实有点关系。这件事就像是一家人里面有个得病了，为了治病求捐款。（募捐一万五以后说的是找人和打官司费用）然而钱到手了却一直因为病是疑难杂症不知道去哪里治是好拖着没治。后来拖到人没了。家里把这个捐款改成了死了一个劳动力所以求捐款support her family。不能说家人有错。但是到底是纠结去哪里治还是纠结治不治这件事只有家人自己知道了。
这贴看的人太沮丧，章mm太可怜了，被最亲的人吃人血馒头
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撇开小姨的狗血故事。捐款应用于找人。提高赏金到30万。赏金多自然机会大。
我想楼里的人不是恶意满满，而是捐了钱希望章家人能够把钱花在找章mm的事情上，结果感觉善心被骗了吧--没有人从楼主的解释和之前一个mm的帖子中看出章家人在为寻找章mm付出大家期望中的努力--就是花钱继续找章mm让坏人绳之于法。Anyway，我就是打个酱油。
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SAD, 我特意回复了那个帖子，说是那个要奶票的帖子楼主是在胡扯。
真有这种人。我就知道有人老公过世，老妈过来奔丧，国内嫂子一个电话没有，开了张化妆品单子让代购。
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这件事也怨不得大家，主要是大家看不到他们家人把捐款用于积极的找人，再加她小姨买奶粉这事，闲言碎语自然就爆发出来了，唉，一声叹息
前捐款为13W）
觉得lz没必要发这个帖子，真的是越描越黑。lz说“由学校”提高捐款目标，这如果不是学校提高的，岂不是成了造谣？成了假借uiuc的名义募捐了？学校如果追究起来，可真不好说。
大部分人不满意是因为本来捐钱是为了找人现在不但不找人还想着法子提高募捐金额。
何况楼主说捐款是学校发起的。另外一个知情人说不是，到底谁在说假话
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re，大家不满意的原因归根到底是捐了钱，人没找到，甚至没有往这方面努力。
至于大家这次的质疑，很简单，当初募捐15万的时候明确说捐款是用来找人的，但事实上，即使知情人士屡次解释更新也从来没说出一句募捐的钱花了多少在找人上，相反隔壁有人（似乎是实名的人）爆料目前各种寻人花费都是志愿者自掏腰包。那么这次募捐到底该怎么定义，大家都心知肚明，只不过悲剧已然发生，大家不说什么就算了。没想到现在募捐团队又把募捐提到50万，这是想挑战大家的极限吗？ ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
Created June 17, 2017
U of I Community Credit Union
on behalf of Maatuka Al-Heeti Dorantes Emkes LLC Law firm
Emergencies
CHAMPAIGN, IL
这次我之所以捐款，有两个原因，第一章MM的确是失踪了。而不象康妈庄安安那些骗钱的，夸大了自己的困境。第二，她家里比较困难，我希望捐款能帮助他家有能力雇人找人。美国有许多专业的找人队伍，甚至有免费的帮助受害人搜索失踪人（尸体）的队伍。更别提私人侦探了。而要做到这一点，必须有经济支持。
到后来一次一次捐款目标提高，我也没觉得有什么大不了。直到看到最后，捐款的目的变成了替章MM给他家人养老，这事儿就变得啼笑皆非了。
我甚至可以说，如果她的家人竭尽全力的在找，就算捐款目标是50万我也能理解。但是在家里坐着，道听途说一些小消息，三个成年人啥事儿不干就坐等志愿者张罗，有时间就代购奶粉，这是章MM的心愿？好歹你们劝捐的统一了说法之后再来啊。一会儿说是学校组织的，一会儿说是警察局组织的。一会儿说章家拿到了钱，一会儿说钱还在账号里。真的要钱没关系，把人当傻子耍就很恶心了。前有康妈庄安安，后有华人那几个试图募捐失败被骂走的几个，都是一手要钱一手把人当傻瓜的。人家不肯被你们糊弄，还要被你们骂道德绑架。你们的良心真的不痛么？
估计是大家看了帖子不捐款了，着急了才来澄清的。
这个事件估计已经有职业募捐的人后面再运作了，华人上也有水军。另外章家人真不怕自己的华人上的解释，把一切推给学校，到时候大家去求证，给对方律师抓住把柄，对案子不利吗？我在学校这么久，学生得绝症啊，失踪啊，真没看到学校亲自出面给募捐的。一般都是学生团体，朋友啊，本人搞得。
你既然知情， 也非常确定是“学校” 从13万提到50万的， 所以就不怕吃瓜群众核实。
说得好像不买美国奶粉，中国婴儿都要饿死了一样，你小时候是吃美国奶粉长大的？
个人不觉得小姨代购赚钱，别人一定要买也可以理解，但是有点过于利用志愿者和大家的善心了，毕竟别人是同情章mm失踪愿意帮他们，而不是为了他家亲戚朋友省奶粉钱。挺搞笑他们一家人能心安理得让志愿者一日三餐送饭，还捐奶票。
不过这年头发死人财的如果真的天有眼，会有报应的。
colic本来也跟吃美国奶粉没关系吧？ 要是吃美国奶粉能治colic那美国就没有得colic的孩子了不是么？
个人不觉得小姨代购赚钱，别人一定要买也可以理解，但是有点过于利用志愿者和大家的善心了，毕竟别人是同情章mm失踪愿意帮他们，而不是为了他家亲戚朋友省奶粉钱。挺搞笑他们一家人能心安理得让志愿者一日三餐送饭，还捐奶票。
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这个说的太过了， 我打赌福建农村的那些妈妈不懂得设么是colic 而且还懂得美国奶粉就是治colic的， 明明就是最世俗的觉得美国奶粉高大上，趁有亲戚要去美国找呗绑架失踪的侄女 顺便站点便宜， 要她帮自己拿点“高大上”的美国奶粉。 真是， 几十亿婴儿， 世世代代在中国吃奶粉长大， 为什么要占一个家里有人绑架失踪的朋友的便宜？ 小姨 估计也是觉得来美国挺光彩的， 侄女都基本上遇害了， 还有心情吧这些破烂不懂事的朋友的要求给志愿者说。
你也算了吧，跟你说话都多余， 满满的套路，每次都是一样， 悲情切切的求捐， 信誓旦旦的说一定把钱用在实处，一定要有清楚的帐目交代给公众。 等钱圈到手马上就翻脸， 先是爱捐不捐， 再是捐点钱没资格指三道四， 最后收尾就是你看人家捐款眼红了。中间还要插播些红脸白脸的， 圣母款就是人家都这么惨了，你们还要恶意满满，路人款就是也就是一顿午饭钱， 只要当事人高兴，爱干啥都行， 不然就不是慈善之心了。 还有打手跳出来，你要是死了我也给你捐。。。等等。骗钱也要用心啊， 凡事再一再二，不可再三再四， 大家都不是傻子，还能永远给你骗着？还有人在做天在看， 吃人血馒头是要遭报应的啊， 也没穷到要拦路打劫才能活的地步，为了钱连廉耻都一概不要了， 自己把路走绝了又有什么意思？
钱捐了。好多人捐是为了想找人和帮章妹妹申冤的吧？结果收捐款的目的居然中途变了。那能refund 吗？
因为本来就是骗捐团体组织的，找个差的找不到人草草收场，打法律擦边球中途更换募捐原因和数目，说是为了完成章MM遗愿，其实就是为了把钱拿到骗捐和弟弟小姨分成。
我倒觉得章MM父母没坏心眼，就是被骗捐团体利用了。
如果没有详细的清单罗列这笔钱是怎么花的、未来准备怎么用，建议大家还是申请退款吧
对了，created那一栏也可以改，之前就是 U of I community Credit Union, 现在加上了on behalf of 。。。。
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但我觉得如果章MM遗体找到了之后，剩下的钱 - 哪怕真是捐到50万了，给章家人用于以后生活我觉得没什么不好。章MM如果能说出遗愿的话，除了严惩凶手，也就是希望家人能有好的生活了。当然作为章家人，如果有骨气的话，不接受为好，接受了我也可以理解，不会JUDGE.
想想如果是一个普通的老实中国工薪族家庭出了这种事，基本上就是家人凑钱来美国找人。自己租房住，工作单位请假然后没工资拿，自己买个车或者打车买菜做饭。找到body以后或者一直找不到body家里也没钱了，家人只好回国继续工作生活，快开庭了家长飞过来。如果是个拿普通工资的独生子女父母，过几年退休以后两口子一个月不到一万块，还要各种花钱看病吃药，什么都要自己干，不好意思也没有亲戚可以麻烦。都不知道这种普通人可以撑几年。章家前前后后直接转账+网上捐款十几万美元，对这些家庭也不是小数目了。可是也不会有人给他们捐款。（参见前前后后华人留学生出事的几个例子）普通人出了事比弱势群体还弱势。
既然不找人，这些钱还不如捐给朱令呢。朱令至少还活着。
捐款人可以要求refund
How can I get my donation refunded?
Since all donations are immediately available to the Campaign Organizer and may have already been withdrawn, we encourage donors to contact the Campaign Organizer to request a refund so they understand why the funds might be taken out of their account.
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If you don't feel comfortable contacting the Campaign Organizer, please click "I Still Need Help" below and share your reasoning for your refund request so that we can try our best to help.
If you feel that your donation was misused or that the Campaign Organizer you donated to has committed fraud, you may qualify for protection under the GoFundMe Guarantee. To learn more about the GoFundMe Guarantee, please visit: www.gofundme.com/guarantee
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Log in to your Stripe account
On the left-hand side, click 'Payments'
Hover your mouse over the payment you'd like to refund and click "Refund"
Select 'Full Refund'
If you're not sure if your campaign is set up with Stripe, just contact our team and we'll be happy to help.
https://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/203604214-How-do-I-issue-refunds-
对我就是看不惯利用别人的善意诈骗，还特理直气壮！我脸皮就是特别厚，不怕骂，就喜欢跟那些说“算了啊你怎么这么不善良“的诈骗团伙撕到底，就看不得小人得志坏人猖狂，我活着一天看到一次这种几把事就举报一次，还呼吁大家一起举报，谁知道哪次坏人就被绳之于法呢？
被报复也不怕，为正义挂了的人，下辈子都能投个好胎
--想起郭德纲著名段子：跟那些和你说‘算了原谅吧’这些人离远点，因为哪天他们被雷劈了，肯定会连累你。
这事不可能算了，涉及到钱的事，就算是zf官员，在美国也是分分钟落马。
这位MM，我把我的看法也贴在这里回应你。
我是捐款了，我的钱只要是给了章家，给了FBI作为悬赏用途 - 等等，这些在GOFUNDME上阐明了的，我一点意见都没有。
我也不认为是不是UNION起头的对这个资金的用途起到什么变化。
骗捐的帽子扣的太容易。这么SERIOUS的事情，最好不要张口就来。
就连贴gofundme refund policy&instruction 我也是提醒大家，如果不满意此捐款或者有怀疑，是有refund的权利的！
你可真逗，照你说的，谁家有癌症病人拉出来溜溜募捐，然后就可以把病人丢开，拿着钱去迪士尼happy了，是吧。
骗捐的ID快出来发花费明细，否则算不算犯罪啊？快去Gofundme申请退款吧
我都看不懂你这几句啥意思。
你继续自HIGH吧。。。
我大概不会再捐了，但是也不会judge章家人反复提高捐款额度这件事。
希望尽快找到莹颖，让她安息。
改了改了：
骗捐算不算犯罪啊？认为不是骗捐的拿出证据来啊？认为是骗捐的快去Gofundme申请退款吧http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2197936
不如大家再搞个捐款，用来寻找"谁是 Yingying 捐款发起人"?
庄安安生病是假，但康妈死了老公这事可是真的，捐的钱更是真真进了她口袋，还帮她买了大房欢欢喜喜带着娃改嫁了。真假和苦主拿钱都不改变骗捐的本质。康妈还真就直接让大家support her family，但隐瞒了真实财政情况。这次是进化到突然连捐款目的都变了，找人直接变养老，果然活久见，越来越开眼。