民调: 川普 or 媒体你信谁 92% 信川普 8%媒体 川普指IS尊崇奥巴马,奥巴稀垃是IS创办人

ScottishFold
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BBC:特朗普指奥巴马是“伊斯兰国的创办人”
http://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/simp/world/2016/08/160811_us_trump_obama_isis

美国共和党总统候选人特朗普周三(8月10日)晚上于佛罗里达州拉票时,指总统奥巴马是所谓“伊斯兰国”的创办人。 特朗普说:“伊斯兰国尊崇奥巴马…… 他是伊斯兰国的创办人。他创办伊斯兰国。我会说,共同创办人还有骗子希拉里。”
特朗普的支持者则大喊“监禁她!”作回应。

特朗普谈及奥巴马的时候,以他的全名巴拉克·侯赛因·奥巴马(Barack Hussein Obama)称呼他。反对奥巴马阵营常使用他全名──指责他暗地里是一名回教徒。

11日川普参加一共和党电台节目谈话,主持人想帮忙缓颊,川普坚称他是真的指欧巴马是IS创办人,就是字面上的意思。主持人休西威特(Hugh Hewitt)打圆场表示他懂川普的意思,应该是要说欧巴马政策失败让IS崛起,引发战争,但川普回道“不,我就是指他是IS的创办人,就是这个意思。”

主持人接着说但欧巴马憎恨IS,他努力消灭他们,川普竟回道“我不在乎,他就是(IS)创办人”,主持人又再次想帮忙圆场,表示使用“创办人”这个词,让川普成为抨击目标,应该是川普用错词?川普说“不,没有用错,大家都喜欢这个说法,我想他们都喜欢,他是(IS)最有价值的球员,我要颁给他最有价值球员奖。我也要把这个奖颁给希拉蕊。”

NBC Poll : Donald Trump or The Media | Who Do You Trust ?
http://nbcpoll.com/nbc-poll-donald-trump-media-trust/
A poll conducted by NBC News / NBC Poll  of registered female voters found that voters backed Trump by an unheard of margin, 92% said they believe Trump over the media.



而且我在那个POLL下面还看到一个COMMENT,所以现实就是,TRUMP的支持率是碾压稀拉拉的

William Wright August 7, 2016 at 9:46 am
watch as this one gets burried just like the other poll out there that showed donald with 44,000 votes and clinton with 17,000 votes and it was reported as 46%clinton and 43%trump…
ScottishFold
稀拉拉真的完蛋了

‘Clinton Cash: A Graphic Novel’ Sells Out in a Single Day; #5 on Amazon Bestsellers List
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/10/clinton-cash-graphic-novel-sells-single-day-5-amazon-bestsellers-list/
ScottishFold
印度人已经翻盘倒向trump了
ScottishFold
基督徒也都会给TRUMP投票,上次ROMNEY因为是摩门教,但是TRUMP这次PENCE选的好啊是个基督徒。
ScottishFold
2016 Election Analysis:  Trump Will Defeat Clinton in Landslide              
https://the-politik.com/2016/08/04/trump_will_win_landslide/
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SDSPAGE
好消息啊。。。。。。。
谁还相信媒体啊。
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landfall
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我绝对相信Trump能赢,但是到时希拉里在摇摆州作弊的话,那也顶不住啊,就像Obama 150%投票率,还有一个人投8次,再加上非法移民投票,很悲观。不知道trump怎么做
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landfall
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现在trump最主要要做的就是防止vote fraud. 最可气的是建制派非但不帮忙,还在后面暗暗捣乱
馒头的老婆
我也相信Trump,MSM这次太恶心了,连牌坊都不立了,直接进青楼开卖。
ScottishFold
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我绝对相信Trump能赢,但是到时希拉里在摇摆州作弊的话,那也顶不住啊,就像Obama 150%投票率,还有......
landfall 发表于 8/11/2016 9:49:02 AM
摇摆州可没那么容易作弊,好多GOVERNOR都是共和党。奥巴马上次就是险胜,稀拉拉这么多丑闻,失去BERNIE SUPPORTER,彻底完蛋。今年共和党更MOTIVATED TO VOTE.

2016 Election Analysis:  Trump Will Defeat Clinton in Landslide              
https://the-politik.com/2016/08/04/trump_will_win_landslide/
drspurple
稀拉拉真的完蛋了

‘Clinton Cash: A Graphic Novel’ Sells Out in a Single Day; #5 on Amazon Bestsellers List
[url=http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/10/clinton-cash-graphic-novel-sel......
ScottishFold 发表于 8/11/2016 9:41:25 AM
卖完了?我还想买二十本放在公司的coffee station呢
ScottishFold
而且我在那个POLL下面还看到一个COMMENT,所以现实就是,TRUMP的支持率是碾压稀拉拉的

William Wright August 7, 2016 at 9:46 am
watch as this one gets burried just like the other poll out there that showed donald with 44,000 votes and clinton with 17,000 votes and it was reported as 46%clinton and 43%trump…
drspurple
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我绝对相信Trump能赢,但是到时希拉里在摇摆州作弊的话,那也顶不住啊,就像Obama 150%投票率,还有......
landfall 发表于 8/11/2016 9:49:02 AM
最大的摇摆州佛罗里达有Rick Scott 和 Pam Bandi, 没什么好怕的
Olympian
是啊,这次媒体完全失去信任了。
ScottishFold
Despite OBAMA'S historic nature and relative popularity, his margin of victory decreased from 2008. Consequently, Obama became the first incumbent in seven decades to get reelected with fewer electoral votes and a lower popular vote percentage.

Obama lost approximately 3.6 million votes from 2008 to 2012.  Romney gained slightly on 2008 candidate John McCain’s 59.9 million.
ScottishFold
The takeaway from the 2012 election, as it relates to 2016, is that Barack Obama was a once in a lifetime type of candidate.  The first African-American candidate.  He was young.  He was fresh and his candidacy embodied the sort of ‘change’ that so many dissatisfied American’s felt following a long war in Iraq and the financial collapse of the U.S. housing market.

And despite all that popularity, enthusiasm and African-American turnout, he still only attained 51.1% of the popular vote in 2012.

Hillary Clinton stands no chance of besting the numbers of Barack Obama from 2012.  She is far less popular.  She has far less charisma.  She does not inspire enthusiasm, and she comes with a lifetime of corrupt decisions and illegal behavior.
ScottishFold
Primary Changes by the Numbers

In 2008, the last time the Democrats did not have an incumbent on the ticket, they had approximately 38 million Primary voters.  In 2016, that number slipped to approximately 30 million. A loss of 8 million primary voters.

In 2008, Republicans had 21 million primary voters.  In 2012, the number slipped to 19 million. In 2016 however, the GOP had over 30 million primary voters – approximately 9-10 million more than 2008.

That is a change of approximately 17-18 million voters in favor of the GOP.

John McCain lost by 10 million votes.

Mitt Romney lost by 5 million votes.

And since 2008, the Democrats have lost 8 million primary voters while the GOP has gained about 10 million.
ScottishFold
Donald Trump the Rock Star

Trump is the most popular and captivating candidate the party has nominated since Ronald Reagan.  A successful businessman, Trump has been in the world spotlight for years and became a household name over the past decade with a successful reality TV show on NBC, ‘The Apprentice’ and ‘Celebrity Apprentice’.

His name adorns buildings, casinos and resorts all over the world.

Everywhere he has gone, for over a year now, throngs of fans and voters stand in lines thousands deep and hours long.  In early August, in a Daytona Beach arena, Trump drew 8,000 screaming fans, while Hillary could only muster a few hundred the same day at a high school gym in Colorado.  Later that night, in Jacksonville, Trump drew 15,000 people.  This is a normal occurrence on the campaign trail.

Again, Hillary inspires no confidence in voters.  Donald Trump has to turn away far more fans that Clinton can even draw at a campaign event.  This is meaningful as it relates to who actually will make an effort to vote.

To prove how far his national appeal is, Trump won big in every region of the map:  Northeast, Southeast, South, Midwest, Rust Belt, Northwest, West and Southwest.  He won more primary votes than any candidate in the history of the party, and he did so with 17 candidates running.

He won a landslide primary, in a year in which three very popular elected officials from the big states of Texas, Florida and Ohio were running against him.  That alone made it impossible for almost any candidate besides Ted Cruz in Texas, Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio in Florida and John Kasich in Ohio, to win.  Not only did Trump win, but did so with ease.
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我说如果没有作弊,阿巴马都连不了
ScottishFold
The Democrats’ Minority Problem

One myth among the typical media narrative is that Republicans have a minority voter problem.  In reality, it’s the Democrats that do.  In 2012, when Barack Obama won only 51% of the vote, it took him winning the black vote 93-6, and it also required historically high turnout from that group.

Hillary, at minimum, needs to match Obama’s 93-6 margin with black voters, and needs every single black voter that turned out in 2012.  That isn’t going to happen.  She may achieve the margin.  She won’t come close to getting the same turnout.

The Democrats have an electoral problem, in that they need 95% of the black vote, with large turnout, just to win a general election.

Not only is a problem today, but its a far bigger problem for them in the future.  As groups of a demographic grow in size, they also become more diverse.  The chances are that Blacks will vote less and less for Democrat in the future, as they grow in size and diversify from evolution.
ScottishFold
看看这个,很多州现在共和党控制着,这次稀拉拉想作弊难度很大

The GOP has been Destroying Democrats in elections since 2009

When it comes to elections, the GOP has been faring better against Democrats over the last 7 years, than they ever have previously.  In 2010, the GOP took back the House of Representatives with a 63-seat pickup, and also grabbed control of 29 of 50 governorships and gained 690 seats in state legislatures.

Then in 2014, The Republicans won 16 seats from Democrats, while only three Republican-held seats turned Democratic. The Republicans achieved their largest majority in the House since 1928.  Combined with the Republican gains made in 2010, the total number of Democratic-held House seats lost under Barack Obama’s presidency in midterm elections rose to 77 with the 2014 midterms.

Other than Barack Obama’s unimpressive reelection against Mitt Romney in 2012, the Democrats have been losing every type of election imaginable to Republicans.
ScottishFold
The Variable Factors

Hillary Clinton is also on the losing end of almost all variables that play in elections.

    She is the incumbent party seeking a third consecutive term, which is rarely a good thing

    The Economy is not producing with 90 million unemployed Americans and only 1.2 % growth.

    ISIS and Terrorism is striking all over the western world and within the United States borders.  The Democrats refuse to even say the phrase “Islamic Terrorism.”

    Nearly 80% of the country thinks the United States is going in the wrong direction and Hillary Clinton has been directly involved in government for the last 25 years.  In these times, experience is not a good thing.

    Trump is unabashedly pro-American while the Democrats give off a perception that they are embarrassed by being associated as an American.

    Trump has taken strong positions on two issues that are driving massive new voters to him:  Immigration and Free Trade.  Both of these issues hit right at the heart of the forgotten middle class, that has seen their jobs traded away oversees by their own elected officials.

    Over the past 70 or so years, typically the more physically overpowering ticket wins.  Trump/Pence or Clinton/Kaine?  Who seems tougher to you?

    Her husband Bill Clinton never received even half of the vote during his two Electoral College victories in 1992 and 1996.  The Clintons are not as popular as the media would have you believe.

    Hillary doesn’t have the heart of her party’s voters.  Bernie Sanders did.  And unfortunately for the Democrats, the heart of their party’s voters lost.

    Trump, on the hand, is the heart of the party and beat the powerful interests groups trying to steal it from him and his record setting amount of voters.
ScottishFold
The Secret-Trump Vote

Don’t even bother looking at a poll.  If they were any accurate or valuable at predicting, then the people who ran them would be billionaires.

As we learned from the DNC-WikiLeaks scandal, the Democratic Party and Mainstream Media manipulate polls for nothing other than headlines and talking points, meant to drive narratives and suppress Republican turnout.

Instead, think of the facts.

In 2012, the voting age population was 235 million, but only 129 million voted.

Both parties left a possible 106 million votes on the table.

Because of Donald Trump’s candidacy, all the rules have been thrown out.  We’ve seen that few of the old political playbook tricks work against him.  Money being spent by his opponents have all gone to waste.


We saw every single professional political pundit in the country get the entire primary season wrong – on both sides.

The media and their phony polling consultants don’t have any clue what turnout will look like.  If they did, they wouldn’t have bungled their Trump and Clinton predictions so badly in the primaries.

What we do know is that Trump is attracting voters from all over the map and into the Republican fold, just to vote for him.  It’s how he unexpectedly massacred 16 opponents in the primary.

It’s how he will massacre Hillary Clinton in the general election.

When the media tells you that this race is close or that Hillary is leading, just simply laugh it all off.

This election is already over and Donald Trump will be the 45th President of the United States.
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NotAgaln
对,川普能赢,他是人民的大救星。
ScottishFold
BBC:特朗普指奥巴马是“伊斯兰国的创办人”
http://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/simp/world/2016/08/160811_us_trump_obama_isis

美国共和党总统候选人特朗普周三(8月10日)晚上于佛罗里达州拉票时,指总统奥巴马是所谓“伊斯兰国”的创办人。 特朗普说:“伊斯兰国尊崇奥巴马…… 他是伊斯兰国的创办人。他创办伊斯兰国。我会说,共同创办人还有骗子希拉里。”
特朗普的支持者则大喊“监禁她!”作回应。

特朗普谈及奥巴马的时候,以他的全名巴拉克·侯赛因·奥巴马(Barack Hussein Obama)称呼他。反对奥巴马阵营常使用他全名──指责他暗地里是一名回教徒。
馒头的老婆
坑王又注册了个NotAgaln的马甲,以前那个NotAgain被封了的嘛。
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piggymama
顶上去 冲锋号已经吹响
ScottishFold
顶上去 冲锋号已经吹响
piggymama 发表于 8/11/2016 10:29:31 AM

现在TRUMP直接对准奥巴和稀拉拉开火了。
夏雪两相宜
我反对希拉里,虽然我也不是那么支持trump,但是他总比希拉里好
ScottishFold
川普说IS尊崇奥巴马,这个真相了,这就是为什么IS现在那么嚣张
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NotAgaln
坑王又注册了个NotAgaln的马甲,以前那个NotAgain被封了的嘛。
馒头的老婆 发表于 8/11/2016 10:23:32 AM
再骂人,小心我举报你。
flyingplate
美国人不愿意承认亲爱的O8跟伊斯兰国有关系。但是毛子支持阿萨德,美国暗地里支持反对派,这也不是什么秘密了。当年毛子开炸的时候普金还给了CIA提前通知。他们做得,怎么如今就说不得了?
ScottishFold
美国人不愿意承认亲爱的O8跟伊斯兰国有关系。但是毛子支持阿萨德,美国暗地里支持反对派,这也不是什么秘密了。当年毛子开炸的时候普金还给了CIA提前通知。他们做得,怎么如今就说不得了?
flyingplate 发表于 8/11/2016 10:46:39 AM

需要把美国改成O8和稀拉拉
icylava
太解气了,Trump说的就是人民心中的声音啊
I am your voice!I am with you!

老川普一定要注意人身安全和预防民主党大选作弊

☆ 发自 iPhone 华人一网 1.11.07
ScottishFold
太解气了,Trump说的就是人民心中的声音啊
I am your voice!I am with you!

老川普一定要注意人身安全和预防民主党大选作弊

☆ 发自 iPhone 华人一网 1.11.07
icylava 发表于 8/11/2016 10:58:18 AM

IS尊崇奥巴马,奥巴稀垃是IS创办人 , 现在可以公开这样说了,川普真是好样的。
ScottishFold
IS尊崇奥巴马,奥巴稀垃是IS创办人,全球媒体都会转载报道啊。
ScottishFold
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zzsummer
虽然我也讨厌希拉里,不过现在形势也不是很乐观……
ScottishFold
虽然我也讨厌希拉里,不过现在形势也不是很乐观……
zzsummer 发表于 8/11/2016 11:11:41 AM

民主党福利大州人的感觉是错的。。。。。
ginger227
LZ过于乐观了。 我是支持trump的,不过美国人平均还是傻的多, 今年的黑人+拉丁裔+年轻白人+low income的吃福利的人+大部分白女  加一块, 希拉里可能胜算比较大。  虽然我也不愿意接受这个。。。。
ScottishFold
LZ过于乐观了。 我是支持trump的,不过美国人平均还是傻的多, 今年的黑人+拉丁裔+年轻白人+low income的吃福利的人+大部分白女  加一块, 希拉里可能胜算比较大。  虽然我也不愿意接受这个。。。。
ginger227 发表于 8/11/2016 11:14:33 AM

仔细爬完楼再评论,再往后助选的不光是IS了,还有经济。

Shocking data revision by feds: Americans’ wages dropped 4.2% instead of rising in the first quarter

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/08/shocking_data_revision_by_feds_americans_wages_emdroppedem_42_instead_of_rising_in_the_first_quarter.html
icylava
对那种上来就“虽然我也讨厌希拉里 但是现在形式不乐观”的句式,这种话除了也许能动摇支持川普的军心,还有啥作用?你说你讨厌希拉里,我就呵呵了


民主党福利大州人的感觉是错的。。。。。

ScottishFold 发表于 8/11/2016 11:13:59 AM


☆ 发自 iPhone 华人一网 1.11.07
ginger227

仔细爬完楼再评论,再往后助选的不光是IS了,还有经济。

Shocking data revision by feds: Americans’ wages dropped 4.2% instead of rising in the first quarter

[url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/08/shockin......
ScottishFold 发表于 8/11/2016 11:16:09 AM

再怎么助选, 老黑 老墨和那些领福利的 或者在乎PC的女人  是不会care这个的。
ScottishFold

再怎么助选, 老黑 老墨和那些领福利的 或者在乎PC的女人  是不会care这个的。
ginger227 发表于 8/11/2016 11:18:55 AM

拿福利的懒人笨人很多根本就不出来投票的,而且希拉拉根本就拿不到奥巴那么多的票,很多人2012的时候还把奥巴当LEGEND看,奥巴也才赢了51%,稀拉拉根本没法跟奥巴比,而且今年全世界恐袭+邮件门+DNCLEAK,稀拉拉根本就没机会。你仔细看看这篇文章吧,很多人就是不愿意花点时间
2016 Election Analysis:  Trump Will Defeat Clinton in Landslide              
https://the-politik.com/2016/08/04/trump_will_win_landslide/
Riahnna
说实在,自从支持trump以来,我基本都不看标题写着trump的新闻了,反正不是黑trump就是黑trump
ScottishFold
觉得什么稀拉拉有戏的,基本上人都在民主党福利大州,那里的很多人根本就看不清楚。
含笑的猫
ISIS是08和希拉里的儿子!
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piggymama
乱世疯狂
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rabbit1688
ISIS肯定是奥巴和希拉里缔造的,干了那么都伤天害理的事,都不舍得骂一句,连恐怖分子都不舍得说。绝对是亲生的。