【奥巴去广岛,称美国不能“repeat the evil”,为反法西斯的胜利道歉?】大选聊天帖

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SDSPAGE
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Donald Trump allies quietly seek money from rich, anonymous patrons
怎么看这个新闻?

是不是越来越觉得给钱不要很傻啊?呵呵
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luckyso
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我觉得他可以接受个人捐款,好多人捐的不多,只是表示支持,不是要buy him。保持透明度就行了。最好加上金额限制
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luckyso
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哪能看apprentice?
PositiveVibe 发表于 8/28/2015 2:10:29 AM

我很早前看过一些,网上有的,好久没看啦
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SDSPAGE
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我觉得他可以接受个人捐款,好多人捐的不多,只是表示支持,不是要buy him。保持透明度就行了。最好加上金额限制

luckyso 发表于 8/28/2015 3:11:12 PM

嗯,就是要保持足够的透明度。这样外界就不会质疑了。
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Y_U_SHOOTME
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政治捐款缺的就是透明度。尤其在最高法院判决“corporation is people"后,政治捐款就可以说没有上限了,所以现在的有实力的候选人,竞选资金动辄都是几亿美金算。Trump打算收政治捐款的事我老在好几天前就发过了,不过忘了是在mit还是这里发的,他说big or small他都要,最后加了一句“don't ask me for favor"。small的当然不会要,也没资格要favor。如果你说他万一收了big ones,说不带任何要求,打死我也不信啊。
他目前为止,自己掏的腰包应该很少,大概还不到1 million, 这个少是相对于他自己的财产和这个级别的竞选所需花销来说的
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luckyso
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政治捐款缺的就是透明度。尤其在最高法院判决“corporation is people"后,政治捐款就可以说没有上限了,所以现在的有实力的候选人,竞选资金动辄都是几亿美金算。Trump打算收政治捐款的事我老在好几天前就发过了,不过忘了是在mit还是这里发的,他说big or small他都要,最后加了一句“don't ask me for favor"。small的当然不会要,也没资格要favor。如果你说他万一收了big ones,说不带任何要求,打死我也不信啊。
他目前为止,自己掏的腰包应该很少,大概还不到1 million, 这个少是相对于他自己的财产和这个级别的竞选所需花销来说的
  Y_U_SHOOTME 发表于 8/28/2015 5:05:15 PM
“自己掏的腰包应该很少,大概还不到1 million”, 请问这个数据的出处?
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Y_U_SHOOTME
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这个我要纠正一下,他目前自己掏了1.8 million.
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/25/434604383/donald-trumps-evolving-position-on-campaign-fundraising

我并不认为他接受政治捐款是错的,在这点上我没有bias。我的意思是一旦万一他接受了big ones,我是很难相信这些超大额的政治捐款是不带任何附加条件的。
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urthur
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提到竞选捐款,分享一篇文章  How The 2016 Candidates Are Getting Their Money, In 1 Infographic
  
  http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/28/435186527/charts-2016-presidential-donors-millionaires
  
  很有意思。所有选手里面,只有Trump和Sanders的捐款完全来自低收入群

更正,还有一个o'malley 和 chaffee. 第一次看完全忽略了,不知道他们是谁 囧
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Y_U_SHOOTME
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更有意思的是,除开这两个人的派别不同,对非移的态度不同,其他的理念有高度的重合性。

呵呵
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luckyso
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  这个我要纠正一下,他目前自己掏了1.8 million.
  http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/25/434604383/donald-trumps-evolving-position-on-campaign-fundraising
  
  我并不认为他接受政治捐款是错的,在这点上我没有bias。我的意思是一旦万一他接受了big ones,我是很难相信这些超大额的政治捐款是不带任何附加条件的。
   Y_U_SHOOTME 发表于 8/28/2015 6:23:21 PM

谢谢!Trump's first campaign finance report, for the period ending June 30, recorded $1.9 million in receipts. 这两个月应该又花了不少。
这部分钱里已经有少部分捐款:Donors put in 5 percent, or $92,249. The remaining $1.8 million came in loans from Trump himself.
我觉得他需要接受捐款,与别人的区别是他自己能出不少(他自己说他自己最多出1billion), 所以不用来者不拒,可以turn away那些lobbyist和special interests group。目前看他没有接受超大额的政治捐款,至于以后大家不妨擦亮眼睛好好等着看吧。
晓月繁星
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哪能看apprentice?
  PositiveVibe 发表于 8/28/2015 2:10:29 AM
youtube 有全套。
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urthur
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@_@ 真的假的?

我只知道trump没有很多人想得右,而且他真的很自恋,很珍惜自己的名声,所以应该不会太离谱(crossing fingers)

能科普一下sanders吗?我好奇看过他八字。。。但对他platform 不了解。。。
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luckyso
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    ----------------8/28: 关于头发的那些事:Trump为了反驳一些媒体关于他带假发的传言,在集会上邀请观众上台验证:
      http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-hair-toupee/?iid=ob_article_topstories_pool&iref=obinsite
      
      希拉里也不甘落后,主动提到她的头发是真的,但染了颜色:
      http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/28/politics/hillary-clinton-hair-donald-trump/index.html?sr=fb082815hillaryhair0200pVODSTORY
      
      看来以后选总统应该先验明头发,自己没有头发或对头发做不实陈述的立刻剥夺竞选资格:P
  
      这个link里面还有不少talk show make fun of candidates:
     http://www.wbur.org/2015/08/28/comedians-2016-presidential-race
  
      大家周末愉快!
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PositiveVibe
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这不是很正常么,从其他方面没法跟trump compete,就要拿放大镜来看他的竞选经费了
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Y_U_SHOOTME
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这是Bernie Sander的Platform

https://berniesanders.com/issues/
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Y_U_SHOOTME
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小mm,大伯觉得你对Trump有点走火入魔了。呵呵。。。
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luckyso
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Donald Trump is finally showing us more of his economic plan:
   -- He wants to tax the rich more and the middle class less.
   -- He wants to lower corporate taxes.
   -- He wants to cut government spending and stop raising the debt ceiling.
   "The hedge fund people make a lot of money and they pay very little tax," Trump said in an interview Wednesday with Bloomberg. "I want to lower taxes for the middle class."
   In short, Trump is willing to raise taxes on himself and those like him.
   http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/27/news/economy/donald-trump-economy-tax-plan/index.html?sr=fb082815trumpeconplan700pVodTopLink
   他的tax plan看起来混合了左右两派的主张。我不知道他这的中产/富人线画在哪里,他说他会在未来4周公布他的tax plan。奥巴的“富人”线是年收入$200,000 single or $250,000 per household, 私心希望这个数字double.
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Y_U_SHOOTME
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其实Trump骨子里就不是个右派。就以immigration这个话题来说,看看他和Romney对这个话题的态度,当时和现在完全就是掉个个儿,to me, it is really funny to read:

这是Trump在2012年针对Romney Self Deportation的说法: "
The Republican Party will continue to lose presidential elections if it comes across as mean-spirited and unwelcoming toward people of color, Donald Trump tells Newsmax.

Whether intended or not, comments and policies of Mitt Romney and other Republican candidates during this election were seen by Hispanics and Asians as hostile to them, Trump says.
“Republicans didn’t have anything going for them with respect to Latinos and with respect to Asians,” the billionaire developer says.

“The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump says. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.”
Romney’s solution of “self deportation” for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says.
“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump says. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,” Trump notes. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”
The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,” Trump says."

以下是Romney 现在对Trump的 对immigration的说法:
"Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney attacked real estate mogul and 2016 GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump on Saturday, telling a CNN reporter he thinks Trump’s remarks on illegal immigrants were a “severe error.”

“Do you think Donald Trump’s comments on Mexicans have hurt the Republican Party?” a reporter asked Romney in video carried on CNN on Saturday.

“Yes, I think he made a severe error in saying what he did about Mexican-Americans,” Romney replied. “And it’s unfortunate.”

“Do you think the candidates should speak up about that?” the reporter followed up.

“I think a number of them have,” Romney replied."
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Y_U_SHOOTME
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你可以读读这篇文章,先了解一下。
http://www.taxjusticeblog.org/archive/2015/06/donald_trumps_regressive_and_r.php#.VeD6ISVVhBc

我觉得对个人收入税来说,Trump的plan应该是延续他在2011年写的Time to Get Tough中的几类:
$0-$30,000 1%
$30,000 - $100,000 5%
$100,000 - $1,000,000 10%
over $1,000,000 15%
所谓的Flat Tax Rate。我不是税务专家,好坏不知道,潜意识里,看上去每个人口袋里的钱多了,可是政府会变得很穷,然后很多公共设施建设,服务,教育会被砍到渣。再加上个所有进口关税提高到20%以上,那对贸易来说也是非常不利的。

不过,我相信很多人都会喜欢这个个人收入税的plan,不会去管其他的。呵呵
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luckyso
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现在交很多税,也没见服务和教育什么有什么进步。因为除了花多少钱这个因素,还有效率问题。前两天看新闻一个教师上课迟到了100多次也无法辞退,这种低效和收多少税没关系。
另外,税率降低,能刺激经济,增加taxable基数,再加上结构调整,所以收上来的税的总量不一定下降。他说要4周做这个计划,细节是关键,要好好算一算。
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PositiveVibe
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youtube 有全套。
  晓月繁星 发表于 8/28/2015 6:50:05 PM

哇,真滴耶,谢谢亲爱滴~
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PositiveVibe
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小mm,大伯觉得你对Trump有点走火入魔了。呵呵。。。
  Y_U_SHOOTME 发表于 8/28/2015 7:37:55 PM

小mm觉得不止
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luckyso
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Texas Deputy被处决太让人震怒了。All lives matter! Those cowards!
http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1879405&forumpage=1#68916815
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SDSPAGE
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Texas Deputy被处决太让人震怒了。All lives matter! Those cowards!
http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1879405&forumpage=1#68916815
luckyso 发表于 8/29/2015 5:54:05 PM
All lives matter!
哎!
千万民主党不要再党政了。
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PositiveVibe
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Texas Deputy被处决太让人震怒了。All lives matter! Those cowards!
http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1879405&forumpage=1#68916815
  luckyso 发表于 8/29/2015 5:54:05 PM

太过份了!O8好像还是p也没放一个吧?
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luckyso
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Bush fundraisers exit campaign amid sagging poll numbers, Miami says move voluntary
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/29/bush-fundraisers-exit-campaign-amid-sagging-poll-numbers-miami-says-move/?intcmp=hpbt1
Three of Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush’s fundraising consultants have left the campaign, Fox News confirmed Saturday. The consultants are Kris Money, Trey McCarley and Debbie Alexander, and they voluntarily left the campaign Friday, according to multiple sources. Politico first reported the departures and suggested they were the result of personality conflicts and concerns about the strength of the campaign.
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SDSPAGE
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Bush fundraisers exit campaign amid sagging poll numbers, Miami says move voluntary
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/29/bush-fundraisers-exit-campaign-amid-sagging-poll-numbers-miami-says-move/?intcmp=hpbt1
Three of Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush’s fundraising consultants have left the campaign, Fox News confirmed Saturday. The consultants are Kris Money, Trey McCarley and Debbie Alexander, and they voluntarily left the campaign Friday, according to multiple sources. Politico first reported the departures and suggested they were the result of personality conflicts and concerns about the strength of the campaign.

luckyso 发表于 8/29/2015 7:53:46 PM
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  太过份了!O8好像还是p也没放一个吧?

  PositiveVibe 发表于 8/29/2015 7:36:56 PM
等了一天,果然像你说的,P也没放。。。
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PositiveVibe
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等了一天,果然像你说的,P也没放。。。

  luckyso 发表于 8/29/2015 11:48:53 PM

这种人做不了leader
Leader的作用不止是做决定
而是化解矛盾,激发积极性,使大家尽最大能力work together
但O8没有起到这个作用
就跟以前我们公司的一个黑人主管一样,特别会挑拨
但是我们大老板有火眼金睛
没用多久就识别出老鼠屎来了,就给开了
可惜没什么大事,也不能弹劾总统
幸好它快下台了
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PositiveVibe
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在看celebrity apprentice,好好看啊
以前怎么都没看的
可能都是编排好的
但是觉得Trump在里面很intimadating,很机智,很幽默,也很慧眼
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luckyso
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  这种人做不了leader
  Leader的作用不止是做决定
  而是化解矛盾,激发积极性,使大家尽最大能力work together
  但O8没有起到这个作用
  就跟以前我们公司的一个黑人主管一样,特别会挑拨
  但是我们大老板有火眼金睛
  没用多久就识别出老鼠屎来了,就给开了
  可惜没什么大事,也不能弹劾总统
  幸好它快下台了

  PositiveVibe 发表于 8/30/2015 12:10:58 AM
赞你们大老板,现在敢开黑人的老板不多,搞不好就要被告
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PositiveVibe
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赞你们大老板,现在敢开黑人的老板不多,搞不好就要被告

  luckyso 发表于 8/30/2015 12:56:51 AM

我们公司木有一个黑人,以前的都被开了,再招的没一个黑的
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PositiveVibe
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Carson在Iowa的polls排到Trump之下了
Trump还给广播了一下
这也是另外一个当leader的条件
就是给别人credit
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urthur
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  太过份了!O8好像还是p也没放一个吧?

  PositiveVibe 发表于 8/29/2015 7:36:56 PM

他这种个性的人很少认为自己错。所谓的bipartisan只是假象。。。
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urthur
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  这是Bernie Sander的Platform
  
  https://berniesanders.com/issues/
   Y_U_SHOOTME 发表于 8/28/2015 7:36:46 PM

可怕的理想主义啊,sanders的政策完跟美国目前的道德和精神状态跟全不匹配。
  看看毛主席任下的中国就明白了。。
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urthur
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其实Trump骨子里就不是个右派。就以immigration这个话题来说,看看他和Romney对这个话题的态度,当时和现在完全就是掉个个儿,to me, it is really funny to read:

这是Trump在2012年针对Romney Self Deportation的说法: "
The Republican Party will continue to lose presidential elections if it comes across as mean-spirited and unwelcoming toward people of color, Donald Trump tells Newsmax.

Whether intended or not, comments and policies of Mitt Romney and other Republican candidates during this election were seen by Hispanics and Asians as hostile to them, Trump says.
“Republicans didn’t have anything going for them with respect to Latinos and with respect to Asians,” the billionaire developer says.

“The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump says. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.”
Romney’s solution of “self deportation” for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says.
“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump says. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,” Trump notes. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”
The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,” Trump says."

以下是Romney 现在对Trump的 对immigration的说法:
"Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney attacked real estate mogul and 2016 GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump on Saturday, telling a CNN reporter he thinks Trump’s remarks on illegal immigrants were a “severe error.”

“Do you think Donald Trump’s comments on Mexicans have hurt the Republican Party?” a reporter asked Romney in video carried on CNN on Saturday.

“Yes, I think he made a severe error in saying what he did about Mexican-Americans,” Romney replied. “And it’s unfortunate.”

“Do you think the candidates should speak up about that?” the reporter followed up.

“I think a number of them have,” Romney replied."
  Y_U_SHOOTME 发表于 8/28/2015 7:52:20 PM
trump的对手一定不会让美国大众忘记这些话的。
不过目前为止trump完全靠人格魅力征服粉丝呀
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luckyso
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Donald Trump is going to make a decision "very soon" regarding a third-party run, he says. http://cnn.it/1KU0r39
看样子RNC要转向了?
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luckyso
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  可怕的理想主义啊,sanders的政策完跟美国目前的道德和精神状态跟全不匹配。
   看看毛主席任下的中国就明白了。。
  

  urthur 发表于 8/30/2015 1:23:39 AM
Sanders政策不靠谱,但人本身感觉比希拉里强点?实在不能忍希拉里
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luckyso
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Carson在Iowa的polls排到Trump之下了
Trump还给广播了一下
这也是另外一个当leader的条件
就是给别人credit
  PositiveVibe 发表于 8/30/2015 1:06:37 AM
Carson, Cruz VP二选一,他们三个好像从来不相互攻击,很有默契
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PositiveVibe
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Carson, Cruz VP二选一,他们三个好像从来不相互攻击,很有默契

  luckyso 发表于 8/30/2015 1:40:42 AM

大奶跟小三小四和平共处
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SDSPAGE
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大奶跟小三小四和平共处

PositiveVibe 发表于 8/30/2015 2:35:34 AM

haha.............................
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luckyso
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Carson talking about Trump:
The second question comes from Lee who wants to know what I think about Don Trump.
Candy and I have known the Trumps for a while. He is a very successful man, and has a generous heart. I know he loves his country greatly. Our styles are very different, yet our message about saving our country and changing Washington are quite powerful. I am not running against anyone. I am running to save the country for our children and grandchildren.
Carson每天会在FB上回答一些选民的问题,挺喜欢看的,他也是一个很有common sense的人。
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PositiveVibe
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celebrity apprentice太好看了,停不下来
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brookhaven
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Carson talking about Trump:
The second question comes from Lee who wants to know what I think about Don Trump.
Candy and I have known the Trumps for a while. He is a very successful man, and has a generous heart. I know he loves his country greatly. Our styles are very different, yet our message about saving our country and changing Washington are quite powerful. I am not running against anyone. I am running to save the country for our children and grandchildren.
Carson每天会在FB上回答一些选民的问题,挺喜欢看的,他也是一个很有common sense的人。
  luckyso 发表于 8/30/2015 10:58:48 PM
     前几天我看谁帖子说他对TAXES 事件装聋作哑来着? 他对政治正确什么态度啊?

BTW 黑人共和党的多吗? 我以为八九成黑人都支持民主党来着。
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luckyso
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     前几天我看谁帖子说他对TAXES 事件装聋作哑来着? 他对政治正确什么态度啊?
    
     BTW 黑人共和党的多吗? 我以为八九成黑人都支持民主党来着。
    
     brookhaven 发表于 8/31/2015 12:02:10 AM

他是反对BLM的,前一阵他发了一篇文章,系统性的讲述了BLM misfire, 如何set wrong target, 正确的target是什么。
The idea that disrupting and protesting Bernie Sanders speeches will change what is wrong in America is lunacy. The "BlackLivesMatter" movement is focused on the wrong targets, to the detriment of blacks who would like to see real change and to the benefit of its powerful white liberal funders using the attacks on Sanders for political purposes that mean nothing for the problems that face our community.
  
他里面还讲了他也是从很坏的区出来的,可是他母亲saved him with a library card:
I grew up in neighborhoods most Americans were told to never drive through. I saw bullets, drugs and death in the same places I played tag and ball with my friends. Both of my older cousins died on the streets where I lived. I thought that was my destiny.

But my mother didn't. She changed all of that. She saved my brother and me from being killed on those streets with nothing but a library card.
很值得一读的文章:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/08/24/blacklivesmatter-sanders-clinton-anger-column/32055507/
  
Black里面5%是republican, 65% democrats, 30% independent.
  
Carson就属于这稀有的5%的杰出代表。如果以后能当上VP, 或者其他重要的政府职位,绝对对于heal被O8分裂的美国有好处。
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PositiveVibe
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看apprentice,jr和ivanka出场就跟王子跟公主似的
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luckyso
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看apprentice,jr和ivanka出场就跟王子跟公主似的
   PositiveVibe 发表于 8/31/2015 12:40:45 AM

Ivanka气质好棒!你看Trump granddaughter说中文的视频了吗?好可爱
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brookhaven
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  他是反对BLM的,前一阵他发了一篇文章,系统性的讲述了BLM misfire, 如何set wrong target, 正确的target是什么。
  The idea that disrupting and protesting Bernie Sanders speeches will change what is wrong in America is lunacy. The "BlackLivesMatter" movement is focused on the wrong targets, to the detriment of blacks who would like to see real change and to the benefit of its powerful white liberal funders using the attacks on Sanders for political purposes that mean nothing for the problems that face our community.
    
  他里面还讲了他也是从很坏的区出来的,可是他母亲saved him with a library card:
  I grew up in neighborhoods most Americans were told to never drive through. I saw bullets, drugs and death in the same places I played tag and ball with my friends. Both of my older cousins died on the streets where I lived. I thought that was my destiny.
  
  But my mother didn't. She changed all of that. She saved my brother and me from being killed on those streets with nothing but a library card.
  很值得一读的文章:
  http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/08/24/blacklivesmatter-sanders-clinton-anger-column/32055507/
    
  Black里面5%是republican, 65% democrats, 30% independent.
    
  Carson就属于这稀有的5%的杰出代表。如果以后能当上VP, 或者其他重要的政府职位,绝对对于heal被O8分裂的美国有好处。
    
    
      你好NB。 知道这么多!
  
  

  luckyso 发表于 8/31/2015 12:26:52 AM
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brookhaven
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不过黑人这事还真的只能让有识的黑人指出来。 其他谁说都不行。 希望他能有点作为。
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brookhaven
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BEN  carson 是不是GRAY ANATOMY里面 CHRIS almost marry 的那个黑人医生的原型?
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  brookhaven 发表于 8/31/2015 12:48:46 AM
过奖了,大家一起学习。帖子里比我懂得多的xdjm有很多。
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luckyso
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BEN  carson 是不是GRAY ANATOMY里面 CHRIS almost marry 的那个黑人医生的原型?
  brookhaven 发表于 8/31/2015 1:11:05 AM
GRAY ANATOMY没看过 我喜欢看律政剧和破案剧,嘻嘻
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@高圆圆@
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Movie "Gifted Hands" 就是说的Dr Carson。。。。。
他观点都很合我意,但是他没有任何从政,管理政府,体制的经验
他很难上去。。。。
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@高圆圆@
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Trump,其实我也同意他的观点,
但是这个Big Mouth太夸张了,你不知道他下一步要干啥。
再加私生活太乱,
也不敢看好
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brookhaven
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Trump,其实我也同意他的观点,
但是这个Big Mouth太夸张了,你不知道他下一步要干啥。
再加私生活太乱,
也不敢看好
  @高圆圆@ 发表于 8/31/2015 1:21:46 AM
还是有先例的。 台湾的柯P就是没有任何经验的。 不过他是选台北市长。 不是总统
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brookhaven
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不过DEMOCRATIC 那帮还是不会承认政治正确这些事情的。
我们办公室那个中国LESBIAN 平时交的朋友都是穷人混混之类的。 她就被左派跟洗脑过一样。成天都是穷人的生活不好啊。 她自己都没有绿卡, 还天天操心难民的绿卡。。。。

不得不说左派洗脑很NB啊
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luckyso
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不过DEMOCRATIC 那帮还是不会承认政治正确这些事情的。
我们办公室那个中国LESBIAN 平时交的朋友都是穷人混混之类的。 她就被左派跟洗脑过一样。成天都是穷人的生活不好啊。 她自己都没有绿卡, 还天天操心难民的绿卡。。。。

不得不说左派洗脑很NB啊
brookhaven 发表于 8/31/2015 1:38:11 AM

LGBT嘛,支持民主党是正常的,不过她天天和混混在一起不担心人身安全吗?
刚看了这个新闻,女生还是要小心些,受害者stabbed, beaten and raped, still in ICU: http://abc7chicago.com/news/woman-26-sexually-assaulted-in-willowbrook-home-police-say/962315/
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LGBT嘛,支持民主党是正常的,不过她天天和混混在一起不担心人身安全吗?
刚看了这个新闻,女生还是要小心些,受害者stabbed, beaten and raped, still in ICU: http://abc7chicago.com/news/woman-26-sexually-assaulted-in-willowbrook-home-police-say/962315/

  luckyso 发表于 8/31/2015 1:48:30 AM
她不怕吧。 都跟变性人上床了, 前几天是把一个关过几天保释出来的认带她家里舌吻来着。还炫耀给我们听。。。感觉她没有在怕。。。LGBT的世界完全超越我的理解。。。我只希望她不要得艾滋。。。
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92m
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凡是参加GOP的黑人都有毛病
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luckyso
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她不怕吧。 都跟变性人上床了, 前几天是把一个关过几天保释出来的认带她家里舌吻来着。还炫耀给我们听。。。感觉她没有在怕。。。LGBT的世界完全超越我的理解。。。我只希望她不要得艾滋。。。

brookhaven 发表于 8/31/2015 1:53:23 AM

OMG这个超越想象了,no zuo no die啊
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PositiveVibe
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跟不上形势了,都看apprentice了
那个叫omaros黑女人,自大得要命,特别会无理搅三分,外加背面插刀,credit归她,骂名归你
真tmd的黑人的典型
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我支持Carson!
他很犀利

【天下乌鸦不是一般黑:GOP黑人候选人Carson】大家来聊primary吧, 最精彩的reality show有木有~更新:大家越聊越欢,我把帖子改成总统初选的闲聊贴好了,楼主会更新一些动态啊花边啊啥的,大家随便说啊,咱们这里没有politically correct一说。 ----------------8/30:天下乌鸦不是一般黑:GOP黑人候选人Carson。好多人在O8之后都被黑人总统吓怕了,可是退休医生Ben Carson是个异类:African American里面5%是republican, 65% democrats, 30% independent.  Carson就属于这稀有的5%的杰出代表。他反对BLM,前一阵他发了一篇文章,系统性的讲述了BLM misfire, 如何set wrongtarget, 正确的target是什么。 The idea that disrupting and protestingBernie Sandersspeeches will change what is wrong in America is lunacy. The "BlackLivesMatter" movement is focused on the wrongtargets, to the deluckyso 发表于 2015-08-31 02:26 AM
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shoppie
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Carson talking about Trump:
The second question comes from Lee who wants to know what I think about Don Trump.
Candy and I have known the Trumps for a while. He is a very successful man, and has a generous heart. I know he loves his country greatly. Our styles are very different, yet our message about saving our country and changing Washington are quite powerful. I am not running against anyone. I am running to save the country for our children and grandchildren.
Carson每天会在FB上回答一些选民的问题,挺喜欢看的,他也是一个很有common sense的人。
  luckyso 发表于 8/30/2015 10:58:48 PM
短短一段话,就感觉到这个人挺有智慧的。
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ajilon
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可是觉得连续两个黑人总统的可能性不大
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luckyso
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可是觉得连续两个黑人总统的可能性不大
  ajilon 发表于 8/31/2015 9:48:47 AM
可以做VP。当年如果是这个黑人而不是O8就好了,race relations会好很多。
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whyhere
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有段Donald Trump 的外孙女说 中文 小白兔白又白的 录像, 好萌。
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whyhere
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Dr. Ben Carson 可以做副总统。 管管教育。 这么聪明的人肯定恨死 common core 了。
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whyhere
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Trump,其实我也同意他的观点,
但是这个Big Mouth太夸张了,你不知道他下一步要干啥。
再加私生活太乱,
也不敢看好
  @高圆圆@ 发表于 8/31/2015 1:21:46 AM
。。 我觉得怎么也比克林顿私生活强。
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luckyso
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carson跟trump持平了 http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/31/two-thirds-of-iowa-republicans-want-a-candidate-whos-never-held-any-office-before/
   urthur 发表于 8/31/2015 1:21:26 PM
Iowa poll: Trump and Carson are tied at 23%. Farther behind Trump and Carson were former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, at 10%; Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, at 9%; Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, at 7%; former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, at 5%.The results are a stark contrast from Monmouth's last Iowa poll, taken before the first Republican debate. In late July, Walker led with 22%, Trump had 13%, Carson had 8% and Fiorina was at 3%.
“I think whoever wins in 2016, and I’m pretty sure it’s going to be a Republican, I think they should make it their goal to seal that border within a year,” Carson said during his twenty minute barn burner.


Trump和Carson好多观点类似,关键是要赢下general election, 要不primary再热闹也没用。那些 <5%的快退吧,形势会看得更清楚些。
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luckyso
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  这货还不自爱的话早晚会中彩的!被黑人和其他族裔罪犯人渣们抢劫,强暴和杀死人群中,LGBT和白左们的比率很高,因为它们对人渣罪犯们博爱不设防,甚至去主动讨好示爱,后果可想而知。
  
  最著名的例子是瑞典的一个一直积极鼓吹白人跟黑人杂交混血还出了一个以身示范的MTV的白女左,最后被一个黑人移民残忍虐待强暴后杀死,死状极恐怖。
  
  有一对英国白左小夫妻,蜜月期间特地去某伊斯兰国家的贫民窟探访表示善意,结果男的被杀死,女的被轮奸后杀死。
  
  美国的例子之一是2个大学白左男生,晚间去一家里面全部是黑人聚会的麦当劳,还笑着跟那些黑人打招呼,结果被黑野兽们杀死。美国最近发生的黑人杀死2个gay的事件是,深夜了,2个gay坐在一间gay酒吧外的台阶上,被一对黑人男女罪犯拿枪逼着要钱,一个gay边开玩笑边交出一个钱包,里面只有5元现钞,结果黑人大怒,连开几枪嘣了这一对gay~~~这样的例子太多了,都是些好歹不分,圣母心大泛滥,求仁得仁自作孽不得活得好典范
  
  
   jiaobaozhuang 发表于 8/31/2015 3:39:07 PM

这也太可怕了。虽说人性本善,但也要承认世界上有evil存在。这些白左简直博爱得没有一点common sense了。
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luckyso
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Cruz - first candidate to speak out on Texas police officer murder:
  
Ted Cruz shared Harris County Sheriff's Office's photo
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We stand with our police officers, we stand with our fire fighters, with our EMS, with our first responders. These are brave men and women who risk their lives keeping us safe. We are seeing a manifestation of the rhetoric and vilification of law enforcement that is coming from the top — all the way to the President of the United States and senior administration officials.
  
  Cops across this country are feeling the assault. They’re feeling the assault from the President, from the top on down as we see, whether it’s in Ferguson or Baltimore, the response of senior officials of the President, of the Attorney General, is to vilify law enforcement. That is fundamentally wrong, and it is endangering the safety and security of us all.
  
  I’m proud to stand with law enforcement, to stand with the police and fire fighters and first responders. They are American heroes. And they need a President who doesn’t attack and vilify them and who doesn’t seek to tear us apart along racial lines to inflame racial divisions. Instead we need a President who works to bring us together and unify us behind shared American values.

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brookhaven
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Cruz - first candidate to speak out on Texas police officer murder:
  
  Ted Cruz shared Harris County Sheriff's Office's photo
   .
   We stand with our police officers, we stand with our fire fighters, with our EMS, with our first responders. These are brave men and women who risk their lives keeping us safe. We are seeing a manifestation of the rhetoric and vilification of law enforcement that is coming from the top — all the way to the President of the United States and senior administration officials.
  
   Cops across this country are feeling the assault. They’re feeling the assault from the President, from the top on down as we see, whether it’s in Ferguson or Baltimore, the response of senior officials of the President, of the Attorney General, is to vilify law enforcement. That is fundamentally wrong, and it is endangering the safety and security of us all.
  
   I’m proud to stand with law enforcement, to stand with the police and fire fighters and first responders. They are American heroes. And they need a President who doesn’t attack and vilify them and who doesn’t seek to tear us apart along racial lines to inflame racial divisions. Instead we need a President who works to bring us together and unify us behind shared American values.
  
  

  luckyso 发表于 8/31/2015 11:22:19 PM
  今天看新闻说TEXAS DEPUTY说今年就要把那个黑人拿去送审, 坚决不等到明年。 然后CNN上BLM 和一个不知道什么人吵起来了。 BLM的代表竟然说白人警察死的速度不足以MATCH 他们每28 小时死一个黑人的速度。。。。 说每逮捕9个黑人才逮捕一个白人。。。。 他们比较东西从来都不算黑人权重, 黑人犯罪率之类的。 乱拿数字说话。
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luckyso
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  今天看新闻说TEXAS DEPUTY说今年就要把那个黑人拿去送审, 坚决不等到明年。 然后CNN上BLM 和一个不知道什么人吵起来了。 BLM的代表竟然说白人警察死的速度不足以MATCH 他们每28 小时死一个黑人的速度。。。。 说每逮捕9个黑人才逮捕一个白人。。。。 他们比较东西从来都不算黑人权重, 黑人犯罪率之类的。 乱拿数字说话。


  brookhaven 发表于 8/31/2015 11:47:18 PM
完全混淆逻辑,偷换概念啊! 这个脑残+冷血!
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BlueNDGold
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ronyning
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不是说这个老黑是精神病吗!看来要脱罪呀!CNNyih个女嘉宾!黑女!平时叫的很凶!这次一个劲的说:
老黑精神病!多可怜!你不知道的他经历了什么!可怜死了!我们要关心黑人青年的精神状态!blabla恶心死了!
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brookhaven
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不是说这个老黑是精神病吗!看来要脱罪呀!CNNyih个女嘉宾!黑女!平时叫的很凶!这次一个劲的说:
老黑精神病!多可怜!你不知道的他经历了什么!可怜死了!我们要关心黑人青年的精神状态!blabla恶心死了!
  ronyning 发表于 9/1/2015 12:53:50 AM
  嘉宾好讨厌呀。。杀人的有几个能是正常人? 那还都开脱算了。
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luyi99
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短短一段话,就感觉到这个人挺有智慧的。

shoppie 发表于 8/31/2015 8:46:42 AM
确实有见地。以后会关注他。
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  BlueNDGold 发表于 9/1/2015 12:10:19 AM
哈哈不过作为leader, 本来最重要的就是有正确的vision和知人善任,细节是可以研究的。竞选路还很漫长,不急于一时。
尽管是讨厌的鸡毛,不过这个video很搞笑,估计以后会有更多的这种talk show段子出来丰富我们的生活
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luckyso
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不是说这个老黑是精神病吗!看来要脱罪呀!CNNyih个女嘉宾!黑女!平时叫的很凶!这次一个劲的说:
  老黑精神病!多可怜!你不知道的他经历了什么!可怜死了!我们要关心黑人青年的精神状态!blabla恶心死了!
   ronyning 发表于 9/1/2015 12:53:50 AM

我呸。nc女嘉宾还不知道警察家属经历了什么呢。他们的精神状态更值得关心!警察打死人时怎么不见他们给警察开脱,而是不分青红皂白一律说警察不公。明显double standards!
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brookhaven
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MILES他老妈出来作证说他们当时一起在SHOPPING。。。  做假证会被判刑嘛?

警察这家真可怜。 VIRGINIA那两个记者也是 。。。。 才几天, 这么多恶性事件。
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tobeornottobe
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我们这里华人群呼吁华人共和党选民改成成民主党选民的,然后选 Sanders 说是可以曲线救国把小希打压下去,不明真相中。
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luckyso
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MILES他老妈出来作证说他们当时一起在SHOPPING。。。  做假证会被判刑嘛?

警察这家真可怜。 VIRGINIA那两个记者也是 。。。。 才几天, 这么多恶性事件。
  brookhaven 发表于 9/1/2015 1:08:46 AM
Perjury is a felony, generally speaking, jail up to 5 years.
如果是shopping, 无论在哪里shopping都应该有监控录像吧
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brookhaven
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我们这里华人群呼吁华人共和党选民改成成民主党选民的,然后选 Sanders 说是可以曲线救国把小希打压下去,不明真相中。
  tobeornottobe 发表于 9/1/2015 1:15:28 AM
   鹅  大家为什么不相信TRUMP的实力呢?
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luckyso
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我们这里华人群呼吁华人共和党选民改成成民主党选民的,然后选 Sanders 说是可以曲线救国把小希打压下去,不明真相中。
  tobeornottobe 发表于 9/1/2015 1:15:28 AM
老希估计自己就下去了,看最新的消息是说没删的email里面发现了150多封classified,pia pia打脸中。。。
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tobeornottobe
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   鹅  大家为什么不相信TRUMP的实力呢?

  brookhaven 发表于 9/1/2015 1:16:45 AM
不管是唐大叔还是小小树丛在加州都是没戏的,不过小希和Sanders哪个更糟还不确定。
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aac
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还是有先例的。 台湾的柯P就是没有任何经验的。 不过他是选台北市长。 不是总统

  brookhaven 发表于 8/31/2015 1:32:54 AM

柯p就是个笑话,他是典型的亚斯博格症状,无法理解别人的感受。这种人做个专业人士可以很出色,作为一个决策位置的公职人员就是个灾难。
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urthur
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   鹅  大家为什么不相信TRUMP的实力呢?

  brookhaven 发表于 9/1/2015 1:16:45 AM

不是不信,而是觉得从trump那里的不到好处。。。
但我就纳闷了,他们真觉得sanders是自己的救世主?
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luckyso
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不管是唐大叔还是小小树丛在加州都是没戏的,不过小希和Sanders哪个更糟还不确定。  

  tobeornottobe 发表于 9/1/2015 1:20:36 AM
general election加州直接被忽略,这里打算的是primary选个弱的民主党获选人出来吧。我也不知道哪个更糟。现在的感觉是Sanders政策更不靠谱,而希拉里人品更差。
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brookhaven
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老希估计自己就下去了,看最新的消息是说没删的email里面发现了150多封classified,pia pia打脸中。。。

  luckyso 发表于 9/1/2015 1:19:23 AM

    可是SANDERS   的 POLL 还是很强啊。 。。有两党对比的POLL嘛? 我看到都是各个党内的POLL 。 还是说现在不到时候两党对比POLL?
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  不是不信,而是觉得从trump那里的不到好处。。。
  但我就纳闷了,他们真觉得sanders是自己的救世主?

  urthur 发表于 9/1/2015 1:22:14 AM
  得不到好处总比得到一堆坏处强吧。。。。 LGBT  迟早搞的全世界 HIV。。
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tobeornottobe
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general election加州直接被忽略,这里打算的是primary选个弱的民主党获选人出来吧。我也不知道哪个更糟。现在的感觉是Sanders政策更不靠谱,而希拉里人品更差。

  luckyso 发表于 9/1/2015 1:24:52 AM
目前看Sanders不弱啊,不会是各个群的呼吁起作用了吧, 共和党的候选人也都很弱啊,唐大叔其实是明星不是政客。
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brookhaven
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目前看Sanders不弱啊,不会是各个群的呼吁起作用了吧, 共和党的候选人也都很弱啊,唐大叔其实是明星不是政客。

  tobeornottobe 发表于 9/1/2015 1:29:24 AM
  挺好的啊。 为什么非要政客当总统。 照TRUMP的话说 拿钱的政客都是财团的PUPPY。。。。不过他回答问题答案好单一。 每次都是  I like them, they like me , I have a good relationship with  ....
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luckyso
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  挺好的啊。 为什么非要政客当总统。 照TRUMP的话说 拿钱的政客都是财团的PUPPY。。。。不过他回答问题答案好单一。 每次都是  I like them, they like me , I have a good relationship with  ....

brookhaven 发表于 9/1/2015 1:35:31 AM

现在选民对对Washington太失望了。职业政客说的比唱的好听,专职了半天啥也没弄出来啊,国家一个劲往下滑。还不如换个口味, 没准有奇效。
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tobeornottobe
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  挺好的啊。 为什么非要政客当总统。 照TRUMP的话说 拿钱的政客都是财团的PUPPY。。。。不过他回答问题答案好单一。 每次都是  I like them, they like me , I have a good relationship with  ....

  brookhaven 发表于 9/1/2015 1:35:31 AM
政客和明星都是光说不练的,但是政客熟悉游戏规则,所以觉得唐大叔最终是没戏的。
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luckyso
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Bush又开始犯傻了:
"That little ad was just a complete mischaracterization of my thinking. It's almost as though Donald Trump is acting like a Washington politician – that’s what they do."
On America's Newsroom, Governor Jeb Bush responded to Donald J. Trump's new ad attacking his immigration strategy. Watch the full interview here: http://huaren.us/1JvnjpM
这是打Trump屁股几下,顺便抽自己几个耳光。
我转粉了,不是因为他会是个好总统,而是他实在傻的让人发笑,好有喜感。
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urthur
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Bush又开始犯傻了:
"That little ad was just a complete mischaracterization of my thinking. It's almost as though Donald Trump is acting like a Washington politician – that’s what they do."
On America's Newsroom, Governor Jeb Bush responded to Donald J. Trump's new ad attacking his immigration strategy. Watch the full interview here: http://huaren.us/1JvnjpM
这是打Trump屁股几下,顺便抽自己几个耳光。
我转粉了,不是因为他会是个好总统,而是他实在傻的让人发笑,好有喜感。
  luckyso 发表于 9/1/2015 1:36:30 PM
他今年运不好啊 所以净冒傻气
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BJyanzi
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柯p就是个笑话,他是典型的亚斯博格症状,无法理解别人的感受。这种人做个专业人士可以很出色,作为一个决策位置的公职人员就是个灾难。

  aac 发表于 9/1/2015 1:20:50 AM
柯P野心大着呢要选2020总统呢,他做了一系列不靠谱的事之后民调还是奇高,台湾人的智商真是。。。。。