【奥巴去广岛,称美国不能“repeat the evil”,为反法西斯的胜利道歉?】大选聊天帖

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xiang2010
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Trump必输。Rubio会赢党内。最后肯定是希拉里当总统。
  litaowan 发表于 2/3/2016 10:30:07 AM
你这种神棍比较合适mitbbs,别在这儿搅合了。
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luckyso
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那么Carson的票仓是加不到Trump上的

ajilon 发表于 2/3/2016 12:55:47 PM

现在他替医生发声,就是争取啊,出了iowa, 神棍就不那么重要了,他和Carson的共同点非职业政客也是一个转移点
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PositiveVibe
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It's official: @HillaryClinton  and @BernieSanders  will debate in New Hampshire https://t.co/gacJ9HgoDU https://t.co/kNdiv6nxew
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PositiveVibe
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我怎么都不可能投给猪党那老头老太,所以trump一定要赢

  mangooo26 发表于 2/3/2016 12:56:30 PM
我也是
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mangooo26
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Trump现在承认没有参加最后的辩论可能是导致他首战失利的因素之一,所以可以看出人民不一定买账

  ajilon 发表于 2/3/2016 12:57:49 PM


trump说他之前根本没有想到能在IOWA 有机会赢,所以没有像ted和rubio,bush这样花时间和钱去99个县市打电话,敲门等进行ground game,但是以结果来看,他花最少的钱得到第二名的选票,而且这次大选IOWA 共和党方面多了几万人投票,已经相当不错了,如果ted不用作弊的手段骗选票还不一定鹿死谁手呢,在Iowa这样的州能拿到第二觉得他已经很棒了。
扶苏
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Rubio 是个非常危险的人物,他集结了两党的最大缺点民主党的非移政策,aa和福利,共和党的战争狂,完全被利益掌控,狂print钱,是个十足的傀儡而且非常投机,所有人里最不能选的就是他和老太。

如果共和党最后提他,vs。 sanders,绝对选sanders了

r 上台,会挑起第三次世界的war
  katharinezl 发表于 2/3/2016 12:45:05 PM
这也是我对他的感觉。如果他当选候选人,我不会支持他。
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luckyso
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他没啥好是因为他根本没啥record, 他绝对是受了奥巴马的启示,在国会时间越长,你的(代表的special interrest)立场就越明显, 被人攻击的地方就越多, 早早出来竞选,paper white的,别人就很难攻击你的过去了, 然后选民就不会judge you based on your past, but based on your 口号!

monmon 发表于 2/3/2016 12:50:25 PM

对啊,搞了个大赦非移,先不说好不好,还失败了, 没有任何achievement. 职业政客里面还不如小胖和Kasich
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mangooo26
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我也是
  PositiveVibe 发表于 2/3/2016 1:09:05 PM


MM辛苦了,对MM表达深深的敬意
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PositiveVibe
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trump说他之前根本没有想到能在IOWA 有机会赢,所以没有像ted和rubio,bush这样花时间和钱去99个县市打电话,敲门等进行ground game,但是以结果来看,他花最少的钱得到第二名的选票,而且这次大选IOWA 共和党方面多了几万人投票,已经相当不错了,如果ted不用作弊的手段骗选票还不一定鹿死谁手呢,在Iowa这样的州能拿到第二觉得他已经很棒了。

  mangooo26 发表于 2/3/2016 1:09:13 PM 我也觉得是,在有人作弊的情况下,还能在神棍州得第二,而且跟第一就差了3%,但只花了一半不到的钱,已经是赢家了
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xiang2010
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对啊,搞了个大赦非移,先不说好不好,还失败了, 没有任何achievement. 职业政客里面还不如小胖和Kasich

  luckyso 发表于 2/3/2016 1:10:50 PM
我其实最喜欢Kasich,做网站测试找政客soul mate也和Kasich最合,没办法,人不popular .
扶苏
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目测sanders是下届总统
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Feb  3 11:23:14 2016, 美东)

共和党没戏了。
昨天听一伙儿老白聊天,都在嘲笑川普,说美国现在怎么这么多又疯狂又愚蠢的人。
我看了sanders赶地铁的视频,对他好感徒增啊,真像一个亲切的邻居老爷爷。
我以前是支持希拉里的,但是的确觉得她政客味儿太重了,诚信都成问题的感觉。政治
竞选这种东西,很多时候拼的是人格魅力,因为大部分民众都是感性和愚蠢的。
看好Sanders, 虽然又要加税有点头疼。
班上众将的对社会的观察能力还是挺差的,美国年轻人大部分还处于低收入阶段,所以
这部分人对Sanders的加税政策根本不敏感,而不是因为人家笨。
  litaowan 发表于 2/3/2016 12:18:57 PM
Sanders至少original。我对他的好感比Rubio,Cruz好。Trump敢想,敢干,政治不正确,我就看重这个。现在很烦政客。想干就干,不试怎么知道不行。obama care我是支持的。至少要试试看,觉得不够好可以再改。打那么多嘴仗,什么都不改变,永远烂下去。
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luckyso
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我其实最喜欢Kasich,做网站测试找政客soul mate也和Kasich最合,没办法,人不popular .

xiang2010 发表于 2/3/2016 1:15:22 PM

Kasich好像也喜欢打仗?
白菜87
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Sanders至少original。我对他的好感比Rubio,Cruz好。Trump敢想,敢干,政治不正确,我就看重这个。现在很烦政客。想干就干,不试怎么知道不行。obama care我是支持的。至少要试试看,觉得不够好可以再改。打那么多嘴仗,什么都不改变,永远烂下去。

  扶苏 发表于 2/3/2016 1:16:37 PM
不知道都是什么人喜欢共产主义老头,不用交税吗?
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mangooo26
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我其实最喜欢Kasich,做网站测试找政客soul mate也和Kasich最合,没办法,人不popular .

  xiang2010 发表于 2/3/2016 1:15:22 PM


我也其实觉得Kasich不错,应该是个实干家,跟rubio比我肯定选kasich,  虽然看着没有总统范儿但是人品信得过,政绩也不错,但是不出线没有办法。
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litaowan
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luckyso
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我也其实觉得Kasich不错,应该是个实干家,跟rubio比我肯定选kasich,  虽然看着没有总统范儿但是人品信得过,政绩也不错,但是不出线没有办法。

mangooo26 发表于 2/3/2016 1:24:30 PM

我觉得他可以做VP。他的问题是嘴太笨,比Trump都差不少,这在选举里是硬伤啊
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ronyning
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看看每个voter 花的钱。觉得老川普不错。很有头脑。比欧洲那些不会算账的职业政客强多了。
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PositiveVibe
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  我喜欢共产主义。我在芝加哥年薪10万,老婆年薪8万,是faculty。我们都不喜欢trump。因为共产主义大家都好。


  litaowan 发表于 2/3/2016 1:27:14 PM
faculty原来这么穷啊
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luckyso
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O8 visiting mosque, saying "Thank you" to muslim Americans for keeping us safe...
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drspurple
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O8 visiting mosque, saying "Thank you" to muslim Americans for keeping us safe...

  luckyso 发表于 2/3/2016 1:35:28 PM

WTF!
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ronyning
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O8 visiting mosque, saying "Thank you" to muslim Americans for keeping us safe...

  luckyso 发表于 2/3/2016 1:35:28 PM


能说是个笑话吗!还好老八没有一进去去白袍子加身,跪地上祈祷!
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PositiveVibe
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能说是个笑话吗!还好老八没有一进去去白袍子加身,跪地上祈祷!


  ronyning 发表于 2/3/2016 1:42:05 PM

哈哈哈哈哈哈,想象这个场景,实在是太好笑了
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urthur
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O8 visiting mosque, saying "Thank you" to muslim Americans for keeping us safe...

  luckyso 发表于 2/3/2016 1:35:28 PM

可以理解成:感谢不杀之恩。。。
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icylava
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  可以理解成:感谢不杀之恩。。。

  urthur 发表于 2/3/2016 1:44:26 PM

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xiang2010
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  我喜欢共产主义。我在芝加哥年薪10万,老婆年薪8万,是faculty。我们都不喜欢trump。因为共产主义大家都好。


  litaowan 发表于 2/3/2016 1:27:14 PM
你两离华人平困线很有距离,太丢faculty的颜面。
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PositiveVibe
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共产主义是要到社会物质极大丰富的时候才能实现的,小时候学的政治都忘啦?
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cindy2012
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  可以理解成:感谢不杀之恩。。。

  urthur 发表于 2/3/2016 1:44:26 PM
还有,拜托,请让我安安稳稳渡过这最后一年。。。
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urthur
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你两离华人平困线很有距离,太丢faculty的颜面。
      
       xiang2010 发表于 2/3/2016 1:48:28 PM

哦一开始没认出他,当时这个litaowan ID用另外一个马甲发帖支持sanders,讲一些很没营养逻辑的话,包括这句一字未改的收入声明(想证明他不是中国红卫兵式的穷人。。。)
      我说假如他愿意用毒誓(或w2) 为他的收入背书,我就信他的收入,但他就是不肯啊。。。这人的发言当笑话看看就好,背景不明,没任何信用,居心叵测。。
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Dohremi
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  我喜欢共产主义。我在芝加哥年薪10万,老婆年薪8万,是faculty。我们都不喜欢trump。因为共产主义大家都好。


  litaowan 发表于 2/3/2016 1:27:14 PM
举例说说共产了如何好?你可以去住好学区的豪宅,打土豪分田地?还是觉得孩子和黑墨穆孩子一起上学对孩子很有帮助?
或者你觉得大家一起在医院急诊室排队几个小时很光荣?
不用等明珠党上台,芝加哥平均工资$62000,你每年捐多少钱?希望共产平等的话,先把你多赚的都捐出来吧。
全美平均工资$52000。
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mangooo26
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  哦一开始没认出他,当时这个ID用另外一个马甲发帖支持sanders,讲一些很没营养逻辑的话,包括这句一字未改的收入声明(想证明他不是中国红卫兵式的穷人。。。)
   我说假如他肯发毒誓,我就信他的收入,但他就是不肯发誓啊。。。这人的发言当笑话看看就好。居心叵测。。
  

  urthur 发表于 2/3/2016 1:53:46 PM

就连他现在说的收入我都一个字不信,真正交税的人都气愤缴税养蛀虫,除非吃福利的才会说那种话
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mangooo26
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能说是个笑话吗!还好老八没有一进去去白袍子加身,跪地上祈祷!


  ronyning 发表于 2/3/2016 1:42:05 PM


那才是真实的他吧,身不由己做卧底啊,真正的无间道高手在白宫
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urthur
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  就连他现在说的收入我都一个字不信,真正交税的人都气愤缴税养蛀虫,除非吃福利的才会说那种话

  mangooo26 发表于 2/3/2016 1:57:48 PM

其实我对交税有些认命了,但是很不喜欢这些税被滥用。你说富人贪婪,很多所谓的穷人又何尝不是。。。
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litaowan
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mangooo26
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  其实我对交税有些认命了,但是很不喜欢这些税被滥用。你说富人贪婪,很多所谓的穷人又何尝不是。。。

  urthur 发表于 2/3/2016 2:00:07 PM

说的是啊,所以讨厌猪党,讨好两头富人和穷人,欺诈剥削中产,无耻至极
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Dohremi
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  其实我对交税有些认命了,但是很不喜欢这些税被滥用。你说富人贪婪,很多所谓的穷人又何尝不是。。。

  urthur 发表于 2/3/2016 2:00:07 PM
对。交税没办法,但我们可以选择税怎么用。民猪党那些用途我不同意。大多数工作的中产都不是富翁,为啥要养懒人?
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litaowan
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mangooo26
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大部分华人中产收到的福利和付出是对等的。穷人的福利是必须的。


  litaowan 发表于 2/3/2016 2:09:41 PM
穷人的福利和诈骗福利是两码事
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PositiveVibe
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  华人贫困线说的是弯曲,我们在chicago,你看清楚了再来大放厥词。


  litaowan 发表于 2/3/2016 2:01:57 PM
这就大放啦,又来一个没见过世面的
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litaowan
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mangooo26
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  穷人没有诈骗福利。

  litaowan 发表于 2/3/2016 2:12:08 PM

厚厚,一不小心露出马脚
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myteeth
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那才是真实的他吧,身不由己做卧底啊,真正的无间道高手在白宫


  mangooo26 发表于 2/3/2016 2:00:02 PM
Obama admits he is a Muslim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY
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monmon
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rick samtorium 要宣布推选了,cnn猜测他要么背书 rubio 或者trump.... 千万不要rubio, 不要再给他momentum!!!!
真福神
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Rubio 是个非常危险的人物,他集结了两党的最大缺点民主党的非移政策,aa和福利,共和党的战争狂,完全被利益掌控,狂print钱,是个十足的傀儡而且非常投机,所有人里最不能选的就是他和老太。
      
       如果共和党最后提他,vs。 sanders,绝对选sanders了
      
       r 上台,会挑起第三次世界的war
        katharinezl 发表于 2/3/2016 12:45:05 PM

你说什么呢?
能挑起第三次世界大战的人只能是cruz。
这几个人的特点是:senders,老好人,但计划风险太大(未必不好)
希拉里:喜欢做错事cover up, 死不认账。但目前为止没做故意害人的事情(除了那个什么强奸案辩护,这个有争议)
trump:无节操,但他会听选民的,可以三十六变,会搞政治show。对敌斗争经验不足,遇到阴的他就摸不着火候了。对内居然栽在cruz这种笑面虎手上。俄罗斯、中国的事情恐怕他是搞不定的
rubio: 理性有节操。他家古巴来的,痛恨古巴政府,热爱古巴人民。反政府,重人性。跟我们这种跑海外来有中国情节,但看不上中国政府的一个心思。这种人,人品根本不差好吧?
cruz: 有本事,有野心。I have a dream类型,未见的跟你美国老百姓有什么关系。懂玩人会玩人,自大,极端,好战,他只搞过内政,没有任何对世界局势更深入的了解。上台就撕伊朗协议,绝对战争狂人。
要说谁最像希特勒非cruz莫属。除了cruz,sanders有点太冒险,谁上台问题都不大
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PositiveVibe
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Trump: I will be interviewed on @greta at 7:00 P.M. Enjoy! @FoxNews
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SDSPAGE
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Obama admits he is a Muslim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY


myteeth 发表于 2/3/2016 2:41:07 PM
谁剪接的这么好啊。。。。
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mangooo26
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  你说什么呢?
  能挑起第三次世界大战的人只能是cruz。
  这几个人的特点是:senders,老好人,但计划风险太大(未必不好)
  希拉里:喜欢做错事cover up, 死不认账。但目前为止没做故意害人的事情(除了那个什么强奸案辩护,这个有争议)
  trump:无节操,但他会听选民的,可以三十六变,会搞政治show。对敌斗争经验不足,遇到阴的他就摸不着火候了。对内居然栽在cruz这种笑面虎手上。俄罗斯、中国的事情恐怕他是搞不定的
  rubio: 理性有节操。他家古巴来的,痛恨古巴政府,热爱古巴人民。反政府,重人性。跟我们这种跑海外来有中国情节,但看不上中国政府的一个心思。这种人,人品根本不差好吧?
  cruz: 有本事,有野心。I have a dream类型,未见的跟你美国老百姓有什么关系。懂玩人会玩人,自大,极端,好战,他只搞过内政,没有任何对世界局势更深入的了解。上台就撕伊朗协议,绝对战争狂人。
  要说谁最像希特勒非cruz莫属。除了cruz,sanders有点太冒险,谁上台问题都不大
        
        
      
      不同意
希拉里是违法好不?要不是奥巴马政府腐败包庇,她该吃牢饭了,只要不是猪党上台,她的好戏还在后头呢
三德子算个老好人吧,空想共产主义跟老神经病也没啥区别
rubio 就凭一张嘴,没有任何政绩证明他有实力领导这个大烂摊子,佛州对他的评价并不高,就是背后金主看重他的墨裔选票而已
cruz: 人品烂没节操滚一边去
Trump: make america great again 唯一人选

    
    
  
  

  真福神 发表于 2/3/2016 3:21:34 PM
真福神
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       不同意
希拉里是违法好不?要不是奥巴马政府腐败包庇,她该吃牢饭了,只要不是猪党上台,她的好戏还在后头呢
三德子算个老好人吧,空想共产主义跟老神经病也没啥区别
rubio 就凭一张嘴,没有任何政绩证明他有实力领导这个大烂摊子,佛州对他的评价并不高,就是背后金主看重他的墨裔选票而已
cruz: 人品烂没节操滚一边去
Trump: make america great again 唯一人选


  mangooo26 发表于 2/3/2016 3:44:08 PM
希拉里哪里违法?
trump是可以上台。我对他的期望是做齐桓公一样的人物。虽然自己像个老流氓(无贬义),但可以吸引一堆谋士。而且政治人物,会作秀就行了不需要那么多个人理想。
rubio那一张嘴是人家做了功课的一张嘴,和奥巴的排比句根本不是一回事。而且难道不应该拿墨裔的选票?trump要进入全国,他也会想拿劳模的选票,黑人的选票,傻子才不拿
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luckyso
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希拉里哪里违法?
trump是可以上台。我对他的期望是做齐桓公一样的人物。虽然自己像个老流氓(无贬义),但可以吸引一堆谋士。而且政治人物,会作秀就行了不需要那么多个人理想。
rubio那一张嘴是人家做了功课的一张嘴,和奥巴的排比句根本不是一回事。而且难道不应该拿墨裔的选票?trump要进入全国,他也会想拿劳模的选票,黑人的选票,傻子才不拿




真福神 发表于 2/3/2016 3:49:26 PM

问题是Rubio只有一张嘴,而且完全被金主控制
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mangooo26
8549 楼
这次大选也反映了美国政府的腐败和黑暗,希拉里置国家安全于不顾,前线流血牺牲的士兵的性命不顾,任意的处理高级机密邮件,被FBI审查还能竞选总统,trump什么都没有做过,被各种诋毁侮辱,这个所谓的民主的美国大选也真是刷了我的三观了
真福神
8550 楼

问题是Rubio只有一张嘴,而且完全被金主控制

  luckyso 发表于 2/3/2016 3:51:14 PM
总听你们这样说,可也没有看到什么证据啊?
真福神
8551 楼
这次大选也反映了美国政府的腐败和黑暗,希拉里置国家安全于不顾,前线流血牺牲的士兵的性命不顾,任意的处理高级机密邮件,被FBI审查还能竞选总统,trump什么都没有做过,被各种诋毁侮辱,这个所谓的民主的美国大选也真是刷了我的三观了
  mangooo26 发表于 2/3/2016 3:52:51 PM
她那个邮件真不算个什么事。她这样做不professional,但也根本没有法律规定不能这么做。第二她这些邮件都是自己发给自己玩的?本来就是一个圈子内的“高级”机密,不要说的这么玄乎
白菜87
8552 楼

问题是Rubio只有一张嘴,而且完全被金主控制

  luckyso 发表于 2/3/2016 3:51:14 PM
被金主控制也没什么不好,总统一人独大挺危险的,财团还是看重经济环境的,应该比较保守,美国已经是第一强国了,没必要有大动荡和改革,o8care这种真挺可怕的。现在我连老巫婆都能接受了,只要别让共产老头上台就行,底线一点点降低。
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mangooo26
8553 楼
她那个邮件真不算个什么事。她这样做不professional,但也根本没有法律规定不能这么做。第二她这些邮件都是自己发给自己玩的?本来就是一个圈子内的“高级”机密,不要说的这么玄乎
  

  真福神 发表于 2/3/2016 3:58:31 PM


置国家安全于不顾,前线流血牺牲的士兵的性命不顾,不算事的话把你孩子送到前线去再想想你说的话!没有法律规定还需要FBI追查吗?没有问题的话奥巴马干嘛不敢公布剩下的邮件?
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cindy2012
8554 楼
她那个邮件真不算个什么事。她这样做不professional,但也根本没有法律规定不能这么做。第二她这些邮件都是自己发给自己玩的?本来就是一个圈子内的“高级”机密,不要说的这么玄乎
  

  真福神 发表于 2/3/2016 3:58:31 PM

不知道美国有没有涉及国家机密的有关法律,原来这么重要位置的人想咋玩咋玩啊
头一回听说这不算个事
真福神
8555 楼

置国家安全于不顾,前线流血牺牲的士兵的性命不顾,不算事的话把你孩子送到前线去再想想你说的话!没有法律规定还需要FBI追查吗?没有问题的话奥巴马干嘛不敢公布剩下的邮件?
  mangooo26 发表于 2/3/2016 4:06:51 PM
如果有士兵因为她死了,还需要我们在这里争论她应不应该竞选总统?她早哪凉快呆哪里去了
你要实在纠结这个就去查她邮件事件damage有多大。为了trump上台诋毁希拉里完全没有必要
真福神
8556 楼

  不知道美国有没有涉及国家机密的有关法律,原来这么重要位置的人想咋玩咋玩啊
头一回听说这不算个事

  cindy2012 发表于 2/3/2016 4:07:39 PM
法律不是为希拉里一个人定的
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mangooo26
8557 楼
如果有士兵因为她死了,还需要我们在这里争论她应不应该竞选总统?她早哪凉快呆哪里去了
  你要实在纠结这个就去查她邮件事件damage有多大。为了trump上台诋毁希拉里完全没有必要
  

  真福神 发表于 2/3/2016 4:10:55 PM


这只代表你个人观点,希拉里的邮件门是个事实不是诋毁,违法国家安全,犯罪就是犯罪, period
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cindy2012
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给人打工会因为不professional 被解雇,怎么也不会升职,当个国务卿不professional有可能当上总统,尼玛,这就是美国政治,不在于你是谁,而在于你代表了谁
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PositiveVibe
8559 楼
法律不是为希拉里一个人定的
  
  
   真福神 发表于 2/3/2016 4:11:40 PM

As a former Justice Department official, I have, of late, been asked by both Democratic and Republican friends whether Hillary Clinton could be indicted for her email related actions. The simple answer is yes — she, and perhaps some of her senior staff, could be indicted for violating a number of federal criminal statutes. But for reasons that will be discussed later, it is unlikely that she will be.
Nevertheless, it is well worth discussing the various criminal provisions of federal law that she and others may have been violated based on mainstream news reports. Remember that news reporting can be incorrect or incomplete — and that Hillary Clinton, and anyone else involved, deserves every presumption of innocence. Also keep in mind that an indictment is not a conviction but rather the informed opinion of a grand jury that probable cause exists to believe one or more violations of federal criminal statutes have transpired.
This intellectual and legal research exercise should commence with a brief review of the basics of criminal jurisprudence: There are two elements of a criminal offense: the prohibited conduct as defined in statute; and the mens rea or mental intent of the individual or individuals engaging in the prohibited conduct. Thus, to gain a conviction on a criminal count in an indictment, a prosecutor must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that: (1) the prohibited conduct occurred, (2) the prohibited conduct was undertaken by the defendant, and (3) the defendant had the requisite mens rea or intent at the time.
1.) 18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
  
18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information
A federal prosecutor would naturally focus first on the most serious allegations: willfully transmitting or willfully retaining Top Secret and Compartmented (TS/SCI) material using a private server system. The individual who transmits and the individual who receives and retains TS/SCI information on a private server jointly share the culpability for risking the compromise and exploitation of the information by hostile intelligence services. The prosecutor’s charging document would likely include felony counts under 18 U.S. Code § 793 and under 18 U.S. Code § 798 against each transmitting individual as well as separate counts against each receiving and retaining individual. Violation of either provision of the U.S. Code cited above is a felony with a maximum prison term of ten years.
The prohibited conduct is the insecure transmission of highly classified information, as well as the receipt and retention of highly classified information in an unapproved manner. The requisite mens rea is the willful commission of the prohibited conduct and the knowledge that compromised information could result in prejudice or injury to the United States or advantage to any foreign nation. Proof of intent to disclose the classified information is not required.
2.) U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
If the federal prosecutors are of a charitable disposition and an accused person has been cooperative, the felony charges under 18 U.S. Code § 793 and 18 U.S. Code § 798 may be “pled-down” to a single or to multiple misdemeanor counts under 18 U.S. Code § 1924. A misdemeanor conviction would probably result in a period of probation and a less significant fine. The prohibited conduct is the unauthorized removal of classified information from government control or its retention in an unauthorized location. The mens rea required is the intent to remove from government control or the intent to store the classified information in an unauthorized location.

3.) 18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
To sustain a charge under 18 U.S. Code § 2071(b), a federal prosecutor need only prove that the accused transferred and held the only copies of official government records (whether classified or not), the very existence of which was concealed from government records custodians. The mens rea required is that an accused knows that official government records were transferred or removed from the control of government records custodians. Violation of 18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) is a felony with a maximum prison term of three years.
4.) 18 U.S. Code § 641 – Public money, property or records
Again, if the federal prosecutors are of a charitable disposition and accused has been cooperative, the felony charges under 18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) can be “pled down” to a misdemeanor under 18 U.S. Code § 641. The prohibited conduct is the conversion of official records (whether classified or not) to the accused’s exclusive use and the mens rea is simply the intent to do so. Conviction on the lesser misdemeanor charge would likely result in a period of probation and the imposition of a fine.
5.) 18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
If it can be proven that an accused destroyed, withheld, or concealed the existence of official records being sought under subpoena by a committee of Congress, the accused can be convicted of obstruction under 18 U.S. Code § 1505. The prohibited conduct includes destruction, concealment and withholding of documents, thereby impeding or obstructing the committee’s rightful pursuit of information. The mens rea is knowledge of the committee’s interest in obtaining the official records in the accused’s custody or control. Violation of 18 U.S. Code § 1505 is a felony with a maximum prison term of five years.
6.) 18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations
If it can be proven that an accused knowingly concealed the existence of official records being sought by the Department of State Inspector General (DOS/IG) or by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), such accused can be convicted of obstruction. The prohibited conduct is the concealment and withholding of documents that impede or obstruct an investigation. The mens rea is the intent to conceal or withhold. Violation of 18 U.S. Code § 1519 is a felony with a maximum prison term of twenty years.
7.) 18 U.S. Code § 1031 — Fraud against the United States
  
18 U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television
  
18 U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”
  
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to defraud the United States
If it can be proven that an accused arranged for the Department of State to hire an Information Technology (IT) specialist to primarily administer and maintain a private server system owned by the accused, then the accused can be convicted of conspiracy to commit honest services fraud and probably wire fraud. The prohibited conduct is having the United States pay an employee salary and/or official travel funds for performing private services on behalf of accused. The mens rea is simply the knowledge of the employee’s status as a public servant and that the government was not fully reimbursed for the costs to the government of such services. The wire fraud conviction can be sought if it can be proven that accused used electronic means of communication in undertaking such scheme or artifice to defraud.
8.) 18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense
If any accused and any third party can be proven to have colluded in any violation of federal, criminal law, then all involved can be charged with criminal conspiracy as well as being charged with the underlying offense.
Indictment?
The old adage, that a good prosecutor can get a ham sandwich indicted, is bad news for any public servant who risks the compromise of classified information or otherwise violates any of the other federal criminal statutes listed above. Specifically, this Administration has a history of vigorously prosecuting and winning convictions in the mishandling of classified information and other criminal violations of the public trust.
However, Hillary Clinton is anything but a ham sandwich; and she knows it. She and her senior aides will not even be formally investigated by this Justice Department, much less indicted. The president will allow Hillary Clinton and her aides to “tough it out” for as long it is politically possible. However, if and when the political and public opinion costs of a “tough it out” tactic become too great, President Obama will simply use that famous pen of his to issue a succinct pardon and make formal mockery of the concept of equal justice.
Kenneth Bergquist served as a Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the United States Department of Justice during the Reagan Administration and serves now as pro bono legal counsel to the Special Operations Education Fund (OPSEC).

  Read more:  http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/21/eight-laws-hillary-clinton-could-be-indicted-for-breaking/#ixzz3z8soO088


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cindy2012
8560 楼
法律不是为希拉里一个人定的
  

  真福神 发表于 2/3/2016 4:11:40 PM

所以她可以超越?晕。。还有这么个支持法的。。
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monmon
8561 楼
被金主控制也没什么不好,总统一人独大挺危险的,财团还是看重经济环境的,应该比较保守,美国已经是第一强国了,没必要有大动荡和改革,o8care这种真挺可怕的。现在我连老巫婆都能接受了,只要别让共产老头上台就行,底线一点点降低。

  白菜87 发表于 2/3/2016 4:02:53 PM
这次老头很可能选不上,但是,,但是点了星火, 很不好很不好!!我预感我的有生之年这星火会在美国燎原。。。
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真福神
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  As a former Justice Department official, I have, of late, been asked by both Democratic and Republican friends whether Hillary Clinton could be indicted for her email related actions. The simple answer is yes — she, and perhaps some of her senior staff, could be indicted for violating a number of federal criminal statutes. But for reasons that will be discussed later, it is unlikely that she will be.
  Nevertheless, it is well worth discussing the various criminal provisions of federal law that she and others may have been violated based on mainstream news reports. Remember that news reporting can be incorrect or incomplete — and that Hillary Clinton, and anyone else involved, deserves every presumption of innocence. Also keep in mind that an indictment is not a conviction but rather the informed opinion of a grand jury that probable cause exists to believe one or more violations of federal criminal statutes have transpired.
  This intellectual and legal research exercise should commence with a brief review of the basics of criminal jurisprudence: There are two elements of a criminal offense: the prohibited conduct as defined in statute; and the mens rea or mental intent of the individual or individuals engaging in the prohibited conduct. Thus, to gain a conviction on a criminal count in an indictment, a prosecutor must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that: (1) the prohibited conduct occurred, (2) the prohibited conduct was undertaken by the defendant, and (3) the defendant had the requisite mens rea or intent at the time.
  1.) 18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
  
18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information
   A federal prosecutor would naturally focus first on the most serious allegations: willfully transmitting or willfully retaining Top Secret and Compartmented (TS/SCI) material using a private server system. The individual who transmits and the individual who receives and retains TS/SCI information on a private server jointly share the culpability for risking the compromise and exploitation of the information by hostile intelligence services. The prosecutor’s charging document would likely include felony counts under 18 U.S. Code § 793 and under 18 U.S. Code § 798 against each transmitting individual as well as separate counts against each receiving and retaining individual. Violation of either provision of the U.S. Code cited above is a felony with a maximum prison term of ten years.
  The prohibited conduct is the insecure transmission of highly classified information, as well as the receipt and retention of highly classified information in an unapproved manner. The requisite mens rea is the willful commission of the prohibited conduct and the knowledge that compromised information could result in prejudice or injury to the United States or advantage to any foreign nation. Proof of intent to disclose the classified information is not required.
  2.) U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
  If the federal prosecutors are of a charitable disposition and an accused person has been cooperative, the felony charges under 18 U.S. Code § 793 and 18 U.S. Code § 798 may be “pled-down” to a single or to multiple misdemeanor counts under 18 U.S. Code § 1924. A misdemeanor conviction would probably result in a period of probation and a less significant fine. The prohibited conduct is the unauthorized removal of classified information from government control or its retention in an unauthorized location. The mens rea required is the intent to remove from government control or the intent to store the classified information in an unauthorized location.
  
  3.) 18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
  To sustain a charge under 18 U.S. Code § 2071(b), a federal prosecutor need only prove that the accused transferred and held the only copies of official government records (whether classified or not), the very existence of which was concealed from government records custodians. The mens rea required is that an accused knows that official government records were transferred or removed from the control of government records custodians. Violation of 18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) is a felony with a maximum prison term of three years.
  4.) 18 U.S. Code § 641 – Public money, property or records
  Again, if the federal prosecutors are of a charitable disposition and accused has been cooperative, the felony charges under 18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) can be “pled down” to a misdemeanor under 18 U.S. Code § 641. The prohibited conduct is the conversion of official records (whether classified or not) to the accused’s exclusive use and the mens rea is simply the intent to do so. Conviction on the lesser misdemeanor charge would likely result in a period of probation and the imposition of a fine.
  5.) 18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
  If it can be proven that an accused destroyed, withheld, or concealed the existence of official records being sought under subpoena by a committee of Congress, the accused can be convicted of obstruction under 18 U.S. Code § 1505. The prohibited conduct includes destruction, concealment and withholding of documents, thereby impeding or obstructing the committee’s rightful pursuit of information. The mens rea is knowledge of the committee’s interest in obtaining the official records in the accused’s custody or control. Violation of 18 U.S. Code § 1505 is a felony with a maximum prison term of five years.
  6.) 18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations
  If it can be proven that an accused knowingly concealed the existence of official records being sought by the Department of State Inspector General (DOS/IG) or by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), such accused can be convicted of obstruction. The prohibited conduct is the concealment and withholding of documents that impede or obstruct an investigation. The mens rea is the intent to conceal or withhold. Violation of 18 U.S. Code § 1519 is a felony with a maximum prison term of twenty years.
  7.) 18 U.S. Code § 1031 — Fraud against the United States
  
18 U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television
  
18 U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”
  
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to defraud the United States
  If it can be proven that an accused arranged for the Department of State to hire an Information Technology (IT) specialist to primarily administer and maintain a private server system owned by the accused, then the accused can be convicted of conspiracy to commit honest services fraud and probably wire fraud. The prohibited conduct is having the United States pay an employee salary and/or official travel funds for performing private services on behalf of accused. The mens rea is simply the knowledge of the employee’s status as a public servant and that the government was not fully reimbursed for the costs to the government of such services. The wire fraud conviction can be sought if it can be proven that accused used electronic means of communication in undertaking such scheme or artifice to defraud.
  8.) 18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense
  If any accused and any third party can be proven to have colluded in any violation of federal, criminal law, then all involved can be charged with criminal conspiracy as well as being charged with the underlying offense.
  Indictment?
  The old adage, that a good prosecutor can get a ham sandwich indicted, is bad news for any public servant who risks the compromise of classified information or otherwise violates any of the other federal criminal statutes listed above. Specifically, this Administration has a history of vigorously prosecuting and winning convictions in the mishandling of classified information and other criminal violations of the public trust.
  However, Hillary Clinton is anything but a ham sandwich; and she knows it. She and her senior aides will not even be formally investigated by this Justice Department, much less indicted. The president will allow Hillary Clinton and her aides to “tough it out” for as long it is politically possible. However, if and when the political and public opinion costs of a “tough it out” tactic become too great, President Obama will simply use that famous pen of his to issue a succinct pardon and make formal mockery of the concept of equal justice.
  Kenneth Bergquist served as a Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the United States Department of Justice during the Reagan Administration and serves now as pro bono legal counsel to the Special Operations Education Fund (OPSEC).
  
   Read more:  http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/21/eight-laws-hillary-clinton-could-be-indicted-for-breaking/#ixzz3z8soO088
  
  
  

  PositiveVibe 发表于 2/3/2016 4:18:41 PM
这篇自己也说信息可能不准确。起码目前为止没有谁能证据确凿的说“克林顿就是害死了士兵违了法” 今后怎么发展可以再关注

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/04/02/396823014/fact-check-hillary-clinton-those-emails-and-the-law

The Laws

In short:
  
The Federal Records Act requires agencies hold onto official communications, including all work-related emails, and government employees cannot destroy or remove relevant records.
FOIA is designed to "improve public access to agency records and information."
The NARA regulations dictate how records should be created and maintained. They stress that materials must be maintained "by the agency," that they should be "readily found" and that the records must "make possible a proper scrutiny by the Congress."
Section 1924 of Title 18 has to do with deletion and retention of classified documents. "Knowingly" removing or housing classified information at an "unauthorized location" is subject to a fine or a year in prison.

The Federal Records Act

Addressing the Federal Records Act, NPR's Scott Horsley reported last month on the question of whether Clinton's exclusive reliance on a private email account violated it. Here's some of what he reported:
  
   "A State Department spokeswoman says Hillary Clinton did not break any rules by relying solely on her personal email account. Federal law allows government officials to use personal email so long as relevant documents are preserved for history."
  
   The law was amended in late 2014 to require that personal emails be transferred to government servers within 20 days. But that was after Clinton left office. Watchdog groups conceded that she may not have violated the text of the law, but they argue she violated the spirit of it.



FOIA — You Can't Always Get What You Want

Clinton was the filter for what was relevant to work and what was not. Of course, before electronic communication, federal records were routinely filtered by individuals, who sorted their papers before handing over boxes to archivists. And, many federal workers, Capitol Hill staff, etc., use personal email accounts — in addition to their official accounts — and choose what, if anything, is turned over from those.

NARA
   The National Archives is where all government records eventually end up. There are several Archives rules and regulations that have been updated since Clinton left office. For example, it is now more explicit about guidance for use of personal email.
   Still, the use of private email and, even further, a private email server certainly limits Archives' call for "ready retrieval of electronic records," records that are "readily found when needed" and are easily scrutinized by Congress.
   Clinton allies argue that she is not the first secretary of state to use a private account. In fact, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said last month, "For some historical context, Secretary Kerry is the first secretary of state to rely primarily on a state.gov email account."

Section 1924 Of Title 18 — Classified Information

The bottom line is this: No one will likely ever know what was deleted from Clinton's server. Barring one of the 30,000 emails Clinton turned over to the State Department being deemed "classified," it's also unlikely she will ever be found to have violated the letter of the law.


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xiang2010
8564 楼

  为什么不好?社会主义,大家都幸福,压力大大减轻,基本生活有保障,有什么不好?真是搞不明白了。


  litaowan 发表于 2/3/2016 4:40:12 PM
钱从哪里来?大锅饭米都从富人/中产那里抢?
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monmon
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  为什么不好?社会主义,大家都幸福,压力大大减轻,基本生活有保障,有什么不好?真是搞不明白了。


  litaowan 发表于 2/3/2016 4:40:12 PM
大家都幸福, 很好,让sanders当世界之王好了,sanders有magic wand, 让大家都幸福。
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真福神
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  所以她可以超越?晕。。还有这么个支持法的。。


  cindy2012 发表于 2/3/2016 4:23:54 PM
这是什么理解方式啊?
因为法律不是为希拉里一个人定的,所以不可能别人违法就是违法,希拉里违法就可以跟人不一样在那里蹦达。她之所以现在能在那里蹦达,就是因为现在没人能确定她违法
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monmon
8569 楼

  本来就应该这样,可是别的国家哪儿找sanders这么好的人?

  litaowan 发表于 2/3/2016 4:52:01 PM
是啊, 而且74岁才出来选,早干嘛去了? 让大家都少幸福那么多年!!!
真福神
8570 楼

  
这只代表你个人观点,希拉里的邮件门是个事实不是诋毁,违法国家安全,犯罪就是犯罪, period
  

  mangooo26 发表于 2/3/2016 4:17:04 PM
犯没犯罪不是你说了算的。trevor martin那个案子法官判定无罪,prosecutor还是一口咬定zimmerman是murder, period。只能说prosecutor无视法律
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PositiveVibe
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这篇自己也说信息可能不准确。起码目前为止没有谁能证据确凿的说“克林顿就是害死了士兵违了法” 今后怎么发展可以再关注
  
  http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/04/02/396823014/fact-check-hillary-clinton-those-emails-and-the-law
  
  The Laws

In short:
    
The Federal Records Act requires agencies hold onto official communications, including all work-related emails, and government employees cannot destroy or remove relevant records.
FOIA is designed to "improve public access to agency records and information."
The NARA regulations dictate how records should be created and maintained. They stress that materials must be maintained "by the agency," that they should be "readily found" and that the records must "make possible a proper scrutiny by the Congress."
Section 1924 of Title 18 has to do with deletion and retention of classified documents. "Knowingly" removing or housing classified information at an "unauthorized location" is subject to a fine or a year in prison.

The Federal Records Act

Addressing the Federal Records Act, NPR's Scott Horsley reported last month on the question of whether Clinton's exclusive reliance on a private email account violated it. Here's some of what he reported:
    
   "A State Department spokeswoman says Hillary Clinton did not break any rules by relying solely on her personal email account. Federal law allows government officials to use personal email so long as relevant documents are preserved for history."
    
   The law was amended in late 2014 to require that personal emails be transferred to government servers within 20 days. But that was after Clinton left office. Watchdog groups conceded that she may not have violated the text of the law, but they argue she violated the spirit of it.
  

  
FOIA — You Can't Always Get What You Want

Clinton was the filter for what was relevant to work and what was not. Of course, before electronic communication, federal records were routinely filtered by individuals, who sorted their papers before handing over boxes to archivists. And, many federal workers, Capitol Hill staff, etc., use personal email accounts — in addition to their official accounts — and choose what, if anything, is turned over from those.


NARA
    The National Archives is where all government records eventually end up. There are several Archives rules and regulations that have been updated since Clinton left office. For example, it is now more explicit about guidance for use of personal email.
    Still, the use of private email and, even further, a private email server certainly limits Archives' call for "ready retrieval of electronic records," records that are "readily found when needed" and are easily scrutinized by Congress.
    Clinton allies argue that she is not the first secretary of state to use a private account. In fact, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said last month, "For some historical context, Secretary Kerry is the first secretary of state to rely primarily on a state.gov email account."

Section 1924 Of Title 18 — Classified Information

  The bottom line is this: No one will likely ever know what was deleted from Clinton's server. Barring one of the 30,000 emails Clinton turned over to the State Department being deemed "classified," it's also unlikely she will ever be found to have violated the letter of the law.






  真福神 发表于 2/3/2016 4:48:35 PM
咬文嚼字,找法律漏洞而已,宗归一个字,untrustworthy
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cindy2012
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这是什么理解方式啊?
  因为法律不是为希拉里一个人定的,所以不可能别人违法就是违法,希拉里违法就可以跟人不一样在那里蹦达。她之所以现在能在那里蹦达,就是因为现在没人能确定她违法
  
  

  真福神 发表于 2/3/2016 4:53:28 PM

你不是说这是人圈子里的玩法吗?这么高贵的圈子,显然不一样啊,要不是这圈子恐怕该确定的早确定了。一个拿国家机密当儿戏,处于被审查阶段有极大违法嫌疑的人竟然也被这样支持,真是开眼了。
真福神
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  你不是说这是人圈子里的玩法吗?这么高贵的圈子,显然不一样啊,要不是这圈子恐怕该确定的早确定了。一个拿国家机密当儿戏,处于被审查阶段有极大违法嫌疑的人竟然也被这样支持,真是开眼了。

  cindy2012 发表于 2/3/2016 5:06:30 PM
我不跟你辩了。有什么好辩的?你没看到我从头到尾支持rubio吗?希拉里是rubio最强的竞争对手,我包庇她干什么?就冲你“也被这样支持”的结论就知道你多难以客观了。
希拉里邮件事件,嫌疑就是嫌疑,违法就是违法,不是你觉得嫌疑她肯定就违了法。法律不是为她一个人量身订的,也不是为你的偏好定的。
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drspurple
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  你不是说这是人圈子里的玩法吗?这么高贵的圈子,显然不一样啊,要不是这圈子恐怕该确定的早确定了。一个拿国家机密当儿戏,处于被审查阶段有极大违法嫌疑的人竟然也被这样支持,真是开眼了。

  cindy2012 发表于 2/3/2016 5:06:30 PM

这个主要是因为Trey Gowdy太笨,搞了好几年了抓不住希婆子的把柄。Ps Gowdy 好像是挺Rubio 的呀,是不是等Rubio确定党内提名之后再办希婆子?我瞎猜啊。
真福神
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4条law,前三条她都可以说是轻松避过。你贴的应该是最后一条“Section 1924 Of Title 18” 如果最后证明她违反了,会被罚款或者关一年。也不是楼上说的好像她把整个美国都置于水深火热那种恐怖。当然选总统肯定也就没她什么事了
我结论跟你一样希拉里untrustworthy
咬文嚼字,找法律漏洞而已,宗归一个字,untrustworthy
  

  PositiveVibe 发表于 2/3/2016 4:59:49 PM
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myteeth
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LIVE Stream: Donald Trump Rally in Little Rock, AR- Barton Coliseum (2-3-16)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZDB1sYL-f8
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SDSPAGE
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LIVE Stream: Donald Trump Rally in Little Rock, AR- Barton Coliseum (2-3-16)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZDB1sYL-f8

  myteeth 发表于 2/3/2016 5:54:36 PM 谢谢!
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FallingDevil
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[quote]

rubio: 理性有节操。他家古巴来的,痛恨古巴政府,热爱古巴人民。反政府,重人性。跟我们这种跑海外来有中国情节,但看不上中国政府的一个心思。这种人,人品根本不差好吧?
    
    
    
  
  


[color=#999999]真福神 发表于 2/3/2016 3:21:34 PM [/color][url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=70657477#70657477][img]http://forums.huaren.us/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url][/quote]

你确定?他之前盗用公家信用卡不算人品差?还有节操?
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PositiveVibe
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.@RickSantorum: “We wanted to find a candidate that really espoused the values we believed in… We decided to support @marcorubio." #Greta

这个三多瑞,真可恶
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cindy2012
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哈,Cruz和CNN干上了!
他竟然说是CNN的报道暗示Carson要退出,CNN 这下不买帐了
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jiaobaozhuang
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SDSPAGE
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.@RickSantorum: “We wanted to find a candidate that really espoused the values we believed in… We decided to support @marcorubio." #Greta

这个三多瑞,真可恶
PositiveVibe 发表于 2/3/2016 8:03:15 PM

哎!恶心。
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cindy2012
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关于Rubio的爆料来了。。
天哪,他在高中和大学期间竟然是个有名的同性恋,活跃在迈阿密的south beach和读大学的Gainesville,Florida一带
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grace6623
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除了Trump, 体制外的还有医生Ben Carson不是政客。我觉得Carson人品不错,挺靠谱的,也没有个人特殊利益在里面。希望Carson的票以后也会多点。
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atypia
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回复 8572楼jiaobaozhuang的帖子

除了Trump, 体制外的还有医生Ben Carson不是政客。我觉得Carson人品不错,挺靠谱的,也没有个人特殊利益在里面。希望Carson的票以后也会多点。
  grace6623 发表于 2/3/2016 9:01:32 PM
他已经退选了
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xiang2010
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关于Rubio的爆料来了。。
天哪,他在高中和大学期间竟然是个有名的同性恋,活跃在迈阿密的south beach和读大学的Gainesville,Florida一带
  cindy2012 发表于 2/3/2016 8:55:31 PM
如果是真的,他怎么不去民猪党那边?
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grace6623
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你不是不知道这是Cruz造谣吧 这两天媒体上讨论的就是这个,Trump也在批啊。Carson没有退,目前也没这打算吧。
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xiang2010
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他已经退选了
  atypia 发表于 2/3/2016 9:03:01 PM
你Cruz 派来卧底的?
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whyhere
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如果是真的,他怎么不去民猪党那边?
  
  
   xiang2010 发表于 2/3/2016 9:06:29 PM 今天还看一个帖子说他 以前整了一个 八人帮,准备合法非法入境的,是和 chuck schumer 一些民主党。
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goldengate
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关于Rubio的爆料来了。。
天哪,他在高中和大学期间竟然是个有名的同性恋,活跃在迈阿密的south beach和读大学的Gainesville,Florida一带
  cindy2012 发表于 2/3/2016 8:55:31 PM
To be honest, i am not surprised. I feel that he looks that way somehow. Good for American, if it is true and if he is elected, then they will have first latino and first gay president. Bravo!
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mangooo26
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犯没犯罪不是你说了算的。trevor martin那个案子法官判定无罪,prosecutor还是一口咬定zimmerman是murder, period。只能说prosecutor无视法律
  

  真福神 发表于 2/3/2016 4:58:18 PM
切,当然不是我说,自然有FBI找她算细账。
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cindy2012
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To be honest, i am not surprised. I feel that he looks that way somehow. Good for American, if it is true and if he is elected, then they will have first latino and first gay president. Bravo!

  goldengate 发表于 2/3/2016 9:15:48 PM
同意,换着花样来吧这帮人迟早会把美国玩丢了
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jiaobaozhuang
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goldengate
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同意,换着花样来吧这帮人迟早会把美国玩丢了




  cindy2012 发表于 2/3/2016 9:19:14 PM
every empire has a day to die, even USA. Human beings are too evil to deserve anything great for long.
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whyhere
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切,当然不是我说,自然有FBI找她算细账。
  

  mangooo26 发表于 2/3/2016 9:17:54 PM
看有人说,FBI 要算帐 希老太的话,要经过四个 民党 女官员,都是希老太的人,所以她不会有事。
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jiaobaozhuang
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cindy2012
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link?
  jiaobaozhuang 发表于 2/3/2016 9:30:01 PM

手机党着急,贴不上来Facebook里有人发的
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drspurple
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关于Rubio的爆料来了。。
天哪,他在高中和大学期间竟然是个有名的同性恋,活跃在迈阿密的south beach和读大学的Gainesville,Florida一带
  cindy2012 发表于 2/3/2016 8:55:31 PM
越来越好玩了,简直天生一个美国总统啊,他怎么就成了茶党宠儿了呢,分明是民主党MO啊!
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veneer
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link?
  jiaobaozhuang 发表于 2/3/2016 9:30:01 PM

Wayne BesenJanuary 31 at 11:54am ·

This is a hit piece with a lot of innuendo. Rubio did graduate from UF the same year I did in 1993. Any of my old friends from UF ever hear of this: In order to prepare for the University of Florida, Rubio attended Santa Fe Community College in Gainesville. Republican sources have told WMR that Rubio, Barrios, and two other students shared a townhouse in Gainesville that was known locally as a “coke house,” where cocaine was readily available, as were almost non-stop parties in what amounted to an off-campus gay frat house. In 1987, Rubio’s brother-in-law, Orlando Cicilia, was busted by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) for his role as a key figure in a cocaine smuggling ring in south Florida.





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