A political conflict is playing out within the walls of the Muslim community in Southeast Texas. A man who was the leader of Muslims in the area said Thursday the conflict has resulted in his ousting. "Don't get me involved in any political games in the name of religion. I am not here a political man," Dr. Nidal Alsayyed said. But it's political motivations he said have forced him to resign as Imam.
"Sadly, it's Clinton versus Trump," he said. Dr. Al Sayyed told KFDM News he was forced to resign as religious director of the Islamic Society of the Triplex after making comments Monday in which he agrees with Donald Trump's statements that the U.S. should temporarily stop accepting any new Muslim immigrants into the country.
While the religious leader said he expected the call to resign eventually, he said it was sped up by politics. "I think any future candidates, presidents who do not support the fact that we need to be more safe and more cautious about whom to bring into this country, whether a Muslim or not," Dr. Alsayyed said. His comments he said had nothing to do with politics, but the former Imam said Trump's comments are in line with the Islamic religion. "The text of the holy Qur'an says the loss of one life is equivalent to killing the whole mankind," he said.
His viewpoint, in part, shifting after lingering questions about the backgrounds of the couple responsible for the mass shooting in San Bernardino. "But the way it happens when you see this mass shooting and you see some people coming with such a very peaceful background and all of the sudden the intelligences themselves, the agencies are not able to figure out what's happening, why all of a sudden this guy or this girl or that lady open fire and kill 15 people, because American Muslims are not doing their job in the country. So we need to stop, we need to stop taking new ones until we fix the existing situation," Dr. Alsayyed said.
The religious leader said there is a problem with some American Muslims seeing a conflict between following their religious beliefs and their patriotism to the U.S., and an issue differentiating the religious community and its political role. He said the two should not mix. "I came to know this morning from some close contacts and friends over 102 Imams, religious people in Houston, were fired and forced to be basically leave their jobs, leave their mosques only because they did not get along with the political agenda for their board members," he said.
Dr. Alsayyed said he took the position to help young people here understand Islam, and it's the youth where Islamic leaders should focus their attention. "Nobody is investing a dollar to basically raise the understanding what does it take for a Muslim to live in the United States," he said.
KFDM News spoke with a board member of the Islamic Society of the Triplex. He said the board is deliberating and will issue an official statement by Saturday in response to the comments from Dr. Alsayyed, but the Islamic Society of the Triplex does take issue with the statements made by the former Imam.
A political conflict is playing out within the walls of the Muslim community in Southeast Texas. A man who was the leader of Muslims in the area said Thursday the conflict has resulted in his ousting. "Don't get me involved in any political games in the name of religion. I am not here a political man," Dr. Nidal Alsayyed said. But it's political motivations he said have forced him to resign as Imam.
"Sadly, it's Clinton versus Trump," he said. Dr. Al Sayyed told KFDM News he was forced to resign as religious director of the Islamic Society of the Triplex after making comments Monday in which he agrees with Donald Trump's statements that the U.S. should temporarily stop accepting any new Muslim immigrants into the country.
While the religious leader said he expected the call to resign eventually, he said it was sped up by politics. "I think any future candidates, presidents who do not support the fact that we need to be more safe and more cautious about whom to bring into this country, whether a Muslim or not," Dr. Alsayyed said. His comments he said had nothing to do with politics, but the former Imam said Trump's comments are in line with the Islamic religion. "The text of the holy Qur'an says the loss of one life is equivalent to killing the whole mankind," he said.
His viewpoint, in part, shifting after lingering questions about the backgrounds of the couple responsible for the mass shooting in San Bernardino. "But the way it happens when you see this mass shooting and you see some people coming with such a very peaceful background and all of the sudden the intelligences themselves, the agencies are not able to figure out what's happening, why all of a sudden this guy or this girl or that lady open fire and kill 15 people, because American Muslims are not doing their job in the country. So we need to stop, we need to stop taking new ones until we fix the existing situation," Dr. Alsayyed said.
The religious leader said there is a problem with some American Muslims seeing a conflict between following their religious beliefs and their patriotism to the U.S., and an issue differentiating the religious community and its political role. He said the two should not mix. "I came to know this morning from some close contacts and friends over 102 Imams, religious people in Houston, were fired and forced to be basically leave their jobs, leave their mosques only because they did not get along with the political agenda for their board members," he said.
Dr. Alsayyed said he took the position to help young people here understand Islam, and it's the youth where Islamic leaders should focus their attention. "Nobody is investing a dollar to basically raise the understanding what does it take for a Muslim to live in the United States," he said.
KFDM News spoke with a board member of the Islamic Society of the Triplex. He said the board is deliberating and will issue an official statement by Saturday in response to the comments from Dr. Alsayyed, but the Islamic Society of the Triplex does take issue with the statements made by the former Imam.
"I came to know this morning from some close contacts and friends over 102 Imams, religious people in Houston, were fired and forced to be basically leave their jobs, leave their mosques only because they did not get along with the political agenda for their board members," he said.
Dr. Alsayyed said he took the position to help young people here understand Islam, and it's the youth where Islamic leaders should focus their attention. "Nobody is investing a dollar to basically raise the understanding what does it take for a Muslim to live in the United States," he said. 这人说的多好啊，这些政客是想干嘛，这样的难得的好穆斯林支持还来不及呢，居然逼他辞职？
"I came to know this morning from some close contacts and friends over 102 Imams, religious people in Houston, were fired and forced to be basically leave their jobs, leave their mosques only because they did not get along with the political agenda for their board members," he said.
Dr. Alsayyed said he took the position to help young people here understand Islam, and it's the youth where Islamic leaders should focus their attention. "Nobody is investing a dollar to basically raise the understanding what does it take for a Muslim to live in the United States," he said. 这人说的多好啊，这些政客是想干嘛，这样的难得的好穆斯林支持还来不及呢，居然逼他辞职？
"I came to know this morning from some close contacts and friends over 102 Imams, religious people in Houston, were fired and forced to be basically leave their jobs, leave their mosques only because they did not get along with the political agenda for their board members," he said.
Dr. Alsayyed said he took the position to help young people here understand Islam, and it's the youth where Islamic leaders should focus their attention. "Nobody is investing a dollar to basically raise the understanding what does it take for a Muslim to live in the United States," he said. 这人说的多好啊，这些政客是想干嘛，这样的难得的好穆斯林支持还来不及呢，居然逼他辞职？
Ted Cruz @tedcruz The Establishment's only hope: Trump & me in a cage match. Sorry to disappoint -- @realDonaldTrump is terrific. #DealWithIt luckyso 发表于 12/11/2015 4:20:01 PM
太好玩儿了。Trump vs. Cruz。 绝对是 Crazy and Crazier 的真人版。 共和党的内斗会越来越激烈的。
Ted Cruz @tedcruz The Establishment's only hope: Trump & me in a cage match. Sorry to disappoint -- @realDonaldTrump is terrific. #DealWithIt luckyso 发表于 12/11/2015 4:20:01 PM
Ted Cruz @tedcruz The Establishment's only hope: Trump & me in a cage match. Sorry to disappoint -- @realDonaldTrump is terrific. #DealWithIt luckyso 发表于 12/11/2015 4:20:01 PM
大家都知道美国宪法保护平民持枪的权利。美国宪法里的原文是 “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” 如果你只读这些单词，那么你会认为美国政府不能干涉平民武装自己的权利。但是实际上有很多限制。平民不仅不能拥有核弹，连小的炸弹都不行。买枪的时候要经过一道又一道的干扰。虽然有这些限制，但是the Second Amendment 从来没被修改过就是因为后人意识到不能只看书面上的描述。
“温和”穆斯林看到激进朋友被抓进去的表现： Minnesota man accused of threatening FBI agents on social media MINNEAPOLIS – A Minneapolis man was charged Friday with tweeting threats against FBI agents after the arrest of a friend on charges of conspiring to help the Islamic State group, and authorities allege the man had hopes himself of traveling to Syria.
Khaalid Adam Abdulkadir, 19, posted the threats on his Twitter account following the arrest Wednesday of his friend, Abdirizak Mohamed Warsame, 20, of Eagan, according to the criminal complaint. He was charged with one felony count of impeding and retaliating against a federal law enforcement officer. FBI agents arrested Abdulkadir earlier Friday. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/12/minnesota-man-accused-threatening-fbi-agents-on-social-media/
A political conflict is playing out within the walls of the Muslim community in Southeast Texas. A man who was the leader of Muslims in the area said Thursday the conflict has resulted in his ousting.
"Don't get me involved in any political games in the name of religion. I am not here a political man," Dr. Nidal Alsayyed said. But it's political motivations he said have forced him to resign as Imam.
"Sadly, it's Clinton versus Trump," he said. Dr. Al Sayyed told KFDM News he was forced to resign as religious director of the Islamic Society of the Triplex after making comments Monday in which he agrees with Donald Trump's statements that the U.S. should temporarily stop accepting any new Muslim immigrants into the country.
While the religious leader said he expected the call to resign eventually, he said it was sped up by politics. "I think any future candidates, presidents who do not support the fact that we need to be more safe and more cautious about whom to bring into this country, whether a Muslim or not," Dr. Alsayyed said. His comments he said had nothing to do with politics, but the former Imam said Trump's comments are in line with the Islamic religion. "The text of the holy Qur'an says the loss of one life is equivalent to killing the whole mankind," he said.
His viewpoint, in part, shifting after lingering questions about the backgrounds of the couple responsible for the mass shooting in San Bernardino. "But the way it happens when you see this mass shooting and you see some people coming with such a very peaceful background and all of the sudden the intelligences themselves, the agencies are not able to figure out what's happening, why all of a sudden this guy or this girl or that lady open fire and kill 15 people, because American Muslims are not doing their job in the country. So we need to stop, we need to stop taking new ones until we fix the existing situation," Dr. Alsayyed said.
The religious leader said there is a problem with some American Muslims seeing a conflict between following their religious beliefs and their patriotism to the U.S., and an issue differentiating the religious community and its political role. He said the two should not mix. "I came to know this morning from some close contacts and friends over 102 Imams, religious people in Houston, were fired and forced to be basically leave their jobs, leave their mosques only because they did not get along with the political agenda for their board members," he said.
Dr. Alsayyed said he took the position to help young people here understand Islam, and it's the youth where Islamic leaders should focus their attention. "Nobody is investing a dollar to basically raise the understanding what does it take for a Muslim to live in the United States," he said.
KFDM News spoke with a board member of the Islamic Society of the Triplex. He said the board is deliberating and will issue an official statement by Saturday in response to the comments from Dr. Alsayyed, but the Islamic Society of the Triplex does take issue with the statements made by the former Imam.
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在德州都会这样。。。。。。不过德州是bush的老巢，有可能特别针对川普，提高bush的支持率。
Dr. Alsayyed said he took the position to help young people here understand Islam, and it's the youth where Islamic leaders should focus their attention. "Nobody is investing a dollar to basically raise the understanding what does it take for a Muslim to live in the United States," he said.
这人说的多好啊，这些政客是想干嘛，这样的难得的好穆斯林支持还来不及呢，居然逼他辞职？
好奇米国的媒体不能多给这些愿意改革的穆斯林一些支持么。既然这些穆斯林已经在这里了，反恐的资金不能拨一些来支持扶持他们么？
看什么媒体吧。cnn啥的不都是左派的代言人吗？媒体最关心的是社会轰动效应。我觉得主要还是现在共和党内部纷争太大了，搞内讧分裂，对形式不利。
今天Trump还发推说Cruz可能要attack他，不过他已经做好准备迎战了
cnn自己报道911的节目被挖出来了，还是台柱anderson cooper的访谈。。。他们之前可能真以为没人celebrate, 左派嘛。。。总那么一厢情愿
比起wapo这种一路走到黑的媒体，cnn算比较重视事实了。我们现在频繁转台，fox激进，每个主持说话都跟机关枪似的，很好玩。看完回归cnn XD
AC自己做的节目自己都忘了，他应该提醒一下啊，开始那么疯狂多丢人。。。
这个是什么意思，没有看懂
这。。。当初拥抱他的人是不是吓出一身冷汗
似乎是cruz表态不会攻击trump
http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/russia-warns-donald-trump-of-assassination-plot/
http://m.wenxuecity.com/news/2015/12/11/4782819.html
等于是在说只有他能打败Trump。
没有谁不在乎真假，但关注点不一样。
你以为为啥那么多人支持trump？因为obama 和其他民主党老在这些trump 支持者在乎的议题上面不改色地说谎
老太人脉广，还有澳门的商人支持，被抓了就是。
。。。。
辩证可以这样啊。。？
Trump说他9／11后新闻报道有上千人在Jersey City庆祝WTC的倒塌。这个新闻报道的是2009年Fort Hood枪击事件后有人庆祝。这两人是什么时候转变为极端份子，9／11的时候在哪里都没提到，怎么就证明Trump的话了？
比如CNN他们某个主播在新闻节目里红口白牙说没有任何穆斯林celebrate的记录。。。
我老公听了纳闷，问我她说真的假的？
当然是假的，我就挑anderson cooper的采访跟他讲。然后我俩一致认为那个主播很差劲
反正经过这个回合左派的招数让我大开眼界，比如：
--没有1000人，只有小猫两三只。那两三只也是trump眼花或者撒谎
--新闻记者矢口否认他们14年前的报道（我好奇这14年内他们干嘛去了）
--MTV专门把当年的目击者找回来，让她说相反的话
所以我选了一门 World Religions, 一门有关天主教的 seminar。
World Religions 里主要比较了一下 基督教，伊斯兰教，和印度教。
从学术角度去研究宗教是什么没有用的，只是隔靴搔痒，依然没法理解信仰的核心。
必须要去研究他们的教义，读经文原文才行。
更深一点，就是祷告，念佛号，修行，跟神、灵沟通，但心术不正的人很有可能会沟通到邪灵。
我看错了她的帖子，还以为她在纠结New York city vs new jersey
cruz明明说了 sorry to disappoint, Trump is terrific. 所以就是说Trump那么棒我不会跟他撕的。
你说的这些都不必。看了华人网上的评论学习到从极端分子的宣传中就可以完全了解伊斯兰教了。只有极端分子口中的伊斯兰教才是正宗的伊斯兰教。剩下的伊斯兰教徒都是伪装的，不是正经伊斯兰教徒。
你不得不佩服极端分子的洗脑能力。能把反对他们的人的脑都洗了。
可兰经就是所有穆斯林公认的guidance。他们自己不改革的话，正常人读了可兰经都会有疑问。 这不是isis洗脑，而是可兰经教义本来就和现代文明社会偏离太远。
为什么不必？这些争执纠纷不都是因为大家对穆斯林的解读不一样嘛？但是不论你或者ISIS，有哪个人能诚实的说他们的观点就是阿拉下的旨意？有谁曾听到过神的声音？
我觉得穆斯林的教义传承有点screwed up, 不然不会在杀人/和平这种很基本的概念上出现分歧
要弄个世俗的处理方式也可以，学trump啊，哪里有风险，那就风险管理，包括暂停所有的穆斯林移民。
你这是抬杠了，AC说的是2001年的事啊，只不过是2009年回顾历史时提起的。
在前面就说过了，任何书上的东西在某种程度上都要依赖读者自己的interpretation 因为同样的白纸黑字，不同的人会有不同的interpretations。
有的人认为最正确的interpretation要完全按照书面上的文字，也有人认为还要考虑到文字以外的涵义。
大家都知道美国宪法保护平民持枪的权利。美国宪法里的原文是 “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” 如果你只读这些单词，那么你会认为美国政府不能干涉平民武装自己的权利。但是实际上有很多限制。平民不仅不能拥有核弹，连小的炸弹都不行。买枪的时候要经过一道又一道的干扰。虽然有这些限制，但是the Second Amendment 从来没被修改过就是因为后人意识到不能只看书面上的描述。
极端分子认为可兰经必须只看书面上的意思也罢了。令我好奇的是为什么华人网上也有这么多支持这种死板理解的人。
有些人的贪心是无底的。有了钱，还可以更有钱呢。
你知道Trump为什么不会跟共和党分离么？不是因为他认为共和党对待他很好，很公平。是因为如果他想自己在每个州注册竞选总统的话他要花几个亿的自己的钱。
Trump大部分的财产实际上都是他各种生意上的投资。你看了他在中东的投资了么？真要威胁他完全不用威胁他的人身安全。只要威胁他的生意上的经济利益就行了。
以色列总统打了他一耳光他为什么不敢回骂？不就是因为他知道犹太人团结，而且在经济上有很大影响力么？
哪里哪里。实际上还是没有右派的众位能耐。不仅学了右派的心得，还到极端份子那里取了经。令人佩服。
没错，有些是这样的，也有很善良的人，但更多的虽然想做个"好"人，心态却奇怪，并不是真的慈悲(举例:mother theresa)，而是陶醉在一个理想之中，自己感动自己。。。所以他们企图实现他们的“理想”时，会变得很不可理喻（不近人情）。。。
不过右派也有很可怕自私的角色，比如白人至上主义者。
站出来骂？
骂过了，人家照样极端。
发兵打？
温和穆斯林跟你我一样，也都是贪生怕死鬼。你看那些说支持派兵打ISIS的人。真要让他们亲身上前线看还有几个支持。
我也考虑过他得罪穆斯林会损害他的经济利益，但是，从另外一方面来说，穆斯林越来越不得人心，他失去了穆斯林，相反得到剩下的人的支持，看到msnbc的民意调查了么，超过7成的人至少默认他的提议，恐怖活动还会继续蔓延，一旦再次发生却，他的支持率就越高，就越能弥补甚至超过他失去的。
这你就错了。左派小清新一厢情愿的认为温和穆斯林和我们一样，然而事实是温和穆斯林和你我有本质的区别。区别是什么呢？当然我们和他们谁都不愿意打仗，大家都想好好过日子。但是区别是到了不得不打的那天，比如极端穆斯林打过来了逼着我们表态，我们中绝大部分会拼死反抗，而所谓的温和穆斯林会义无反顾的加入对方。这次加州恐袭的男人，上次波士顿的恐怖分子就是绝佳的证据。这是阵营问题，也是决定谁是敌谁是友的关键。
说得好。
法国搜清真寺搜出多少武器？
敌人就在身边了。好像可兰经说穆斯林和非穆斯林比较是1：2的时候他们就要争取统治地位了。这句话应该是没有任何翻译上的争议的。原来是1：10。总之，他们人口增长就意味着这仗越来越靠近了。
一针见血！最终的loyalty是不同的，如果穆斯林和非穆打起来了，真正可能站在我们一边的只有改革派而已（也只是可能）
我们现在观察到的都是他们是少数，或极少数的情况，从来没有见过他们移民到另一个文化迥然不同的地区，占到1/3甚至一半以上以后的情况，那个时候“温和”穆斯林还会温和吗？
“温和”穆斯林看到激进朋友被抓进去的表现：
Minnesota man accused of threatening FBI agents on social media
MINNEAPOLIS – A Minneapolis man was charged Friday with tweeting threats against FBI agents after the arrest of a friend on charges of conspiring to help the Islamic State group, and authorities allege the man had hopes himself of traveling to Syria.
Khaalid Adam Abdulkadir, 19, posted the threats on his Twitter account following the arrest Wednesday of his friend, Abdirizak Mohamed Warsame, 20, of Eagan, according to the criminal complaint. He was charged with one felony count of impeding and retaliating against a federal law enforcement officer. FBI agents arrested Abdulkadir earlier Friday.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/12/minnesota-man-accused-threatening-fbi-agents-on-social-media/
叛离伊斯兰教是要被杀死的，O8还活着， 所以。。。还可以问同事，就算O8是穆斯林，也算是“温和”穆斯林了，有什么问题吗？
当美国总统啊，国民被问起，如果不当场维护总统不是穆斯林，能被媒体炮轰一周。谁敢不信？
Trump 发言人把cnn主持人痛扁了一通。
这人是tea party出身的少数族裔，还是女性，说Trump是racist或者不尊重女性的请闭嘴！这样的有能力的人有谁不尊重吗？关键看个人！！希望她以后是白宫发言人，比现在那个胡说八道的猪头强太多了。
这个不是有人一直盯着的。他爹没住伊斯兰教国家，没人管啊。
但是他继父是正常穆斯林啊。他又不是跟着他亲爹长大的。
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20140214-sessions-rival-katrina-pierson-says-1997-shoplifting-charge-helped-turn-life-around.ece
so he probably followed Koran and lied ..