【奥巴去广岛,称美国不能“repeat the evil”,为反法西斯的胜利道歉?】大选聊天帖

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rabbit1688
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没想到夏威夷这么挺trump
  goldengate 发表于 3/9/2016 1:34:45 AM
he is creating jobs there, like in FL, NY! Not like those hypocratic politician, walk the walk, talk the talk.

另外,lying Ted 在堪萨斯double 投票作弊被揭露了!
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cindy2012
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he is creating jobs there, like in FL, NY! Not like those hypocratic politician, walk the walk, talk the talk.

另外,lying Ted 在堪萨斯double 投票作弊被揭露了!

  rabbit1688 发表于 3/9/2016 1:41:34 AM

Really?where?where?
含笑的猫
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he is creating jobs there, like in FL, NY! Not like those hypocratic politician, walk the walk, talk the talk.

另外,lying Ted 在堪萨斯double 投票作弊被揭露了!

  rabbit1688 发表于 3/9/2016 1:41:34 AM
这样的话,票数会重新算过吗?
含笑的猫
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  Really?where?where?
  cindy2012 发表于 3/9/2016 1:42:48 AM
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/USANews/31754465.html
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sourires
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我search了一下,下面两个link 供大家参考。先注册,注册时直接填共和党。以后应该还可以改。

https://www.cagop.org/national-delegation/

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voter-registration

  rabbit1688 发表于 3/9/2016 1:36:32 AM

谢谢!刚填了,那我就等新的选票了对吧?还来的及吧?
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cindy2012
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http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/USANews/31754465.html
  含笑的猫 发表于 3/9/2016 1:53:03 AM

啊。。打不开。
含笑的猫
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  啊。。打不开。
  cindy2012 发表于 3/9/2016 1:56:02 AM
我试过了,可以打开啊
含笑的猫
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DOUBLE-VOTING BY CRUZ SUPPORTERS?

by Sharon Rondeau

(Mar. 6, 2016) — On Sunday evening, former Trump adviser Roger Stone
tweeted that he would be appearing on the Alex Jones Show at 6:00 p.m. ET/5:
00 p.m. CT “to spill the latest on the GOP Rumble,” referencing Mitt
Romney, Donald Trump and Marco Rubio as well as voter fraud in his tweet.

During the segment on Jones’s show, Stone revealed that he has received
more than 200 reports of voter fraud having occurred during the Kansas
Republican primary on Saturday, which was won by Ted Cruz.

Specifically, Stone told Jones that eyewitnesses had described “Cruz voters
voting twice.”

Stone, a former Nixon adviser and long-time Republican political activist,
has written books about the Bush family, the Clintons, “Nixon’s Secrets”
and President Lyndon Baines Johnson.

On February 28, Jones spoke with Stone in an exclusive interview during
which Stone contended that the GOP “establishment” planned to “use Mitt
Romney as ‘Plan B’ if Rubio fails to gain traction on Super Tuesday,”
referring to the March 1 primaries and caucuses.  Of 11 state contests that
day, Trump won seven, Cruz three, and Rubio one, in Minnesota.

On Thursday, in an apparent confirmation of Stone’s predictions, Romney
gave an address in Utah in which he called Trump a “phony” who had not
built a big business, but rather, “inherited it” from his father, Fred
Trump, who was also involved in New York real estate, although on a
considerably smaller scale than his son’s multi-billion-dollar, worldwide
enterprise.

The mainstream media has made clear their surprise that Trump has garnered
the number of delegates that he has, often speculating on whether or not he
can be “stopped.”  He is often depicted as childish, and “news” services
have praised Fox News’s Megyn Kelly as having “destroyed” and “taken
down” Trump during last Thursday’s debate in her questioning and
declarative statements about his real-estate training program, “Trump
University.”

The job of a journalist is not to “destroy,” but rather, to ask probing
questions of all candidates for office.  On Thursday evening, Kelly pursued
a line of questioning and assertions about Trump University about which some
consumer complaints have arisen which resulted in a lawsuit.   Trump
responded that he chose not to settle the case out of court and that the
outcome would exonerate him.  During her aggressive address to Trump about
the complaints and Trump’s reported countersuit of the lead plaintiff,
Kelly mistakenly asserted that Trump University is currently rated a “D-”
by the Better Business Bureau despite Trump’s rejoinder that it now has an
“A” rating.

Trump, in fact, was accurate that the training course had earned an “A” in
the past.  On February 28, NBC News reported that “The BBB said [sic] a
statement to NBC News on Sunday that Trump University currently has no
rating because ‘the company is believed to be out of business.’”

Fortune Magazine reported after the debate that “according to a BBB
statement, the business’s grade had fluctuated between D- and A+ (it’s not
currently rated). No matter how or when it got that D, or whether it was
warranted, Trump’s claim that he didn’t care enough about the grade to do
the work to get an A is completely believable.”

Neither Kelly nor Fox News issued a clarification of its contention that the
current “publicly-available” score was a D-.

None of the three anchors grilled any other candidate in the same way on
Thursday.

Establishment Republicans have decried Trump’s style, substance and non-
conformity as demonstrated by Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC
) organizer Matt Schlapp, who condemned Trump for canceling his scheduled
address at the conference on Saturday.

Trump has spoken at CPAC before and plans to attend next year as “the
president.”

According to The Washington Post, “Republican elites” began experiencing
“growing panic” in November as Trump’s popularity, and that of “outsider
” Dr. Ben Carson, rose among a wide spectrum of voters.

In his initial interview with Jones, Stone said that the leaked GOP plan is
to bolster Rubio’s campaign in preparation for the next “Super Tuesday”
on March 15, whose primaries are conducted on a “winner-take-all” basis
and include Rubio’s home state of Florida.  Should Rubio fail to win
Florida, Stone said, Romney will enter the race.

It is now widely-reported that Romney plans to “torpedo” what is presumed
to be Trump’s winning of enough delegates to be awarded the Republican
nomination at the RNC convention in Cleveland in July.  On Friday, Romney
told NBC’s “Today” Show that “I’m going to do everything within the
normal political bounds to make sure we don’t nominate Donald Trump. I
think he’d be terribly unfit for office. He doesn’t have the temperament
to be president.”

While stating that he is not planning on launching a campaign to stop Trump,
Romney said that he would not rule out his accepting the nomination at the
convention, which would be conducted as “contested.”

Trump is the only presidential candidate who has challenged the
constitutional eligibility of Cruz, who was born in Canada to a Cuban-
citizen father and has not yet demonstrated that he is a U.S. citizen
outside of the higher standard of the Constitution’s Article II, Section 1,
clause 5 requirement of “natural born Citizen.”
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cindy2012
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是Kansas啊,我以为Texas他也作弊了
Kansas这个真的可以立案调查了,有人在网上揭露过,就是教会拿车拉人投票,投完一个换个地方再投
含笑的猫
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是Kansas啊,我以为Texas他也作弊了
Kansas这个真的可以立案调查了,有人在网上揭露过,就是教会拿车拉人投票,投完一个换个地方再投
  cindy2012 发表于 3/9/2016 2:04:38 AM
按照这种人的人品,在德州作弊也是很可能的,他不能在德州输啊,丢不起那人,查深一点估计也有猫腻;据说缅因那里也作弊啦!凡是cruz赢的州都要好好查一查,深挖下去
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luckyso
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HI好几个岛才几百票啊,最大的岛才1K多
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luckyso
15912 楼
我search了一下,下面两个link 供大家参考。先注册,注册时直接填共和党。以后应该还可以改。

https://www.cagop.org/national-delegation/

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voter-registration

  rabbit1688 发表于 3/9/2016 1:36:32 AM
我加到首页
含笑的猫
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阿喽哈州,快点出结果啊!
含笑的猫
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luckyso
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阿喽哈州,快点出结果啊!
  含笑的猫 发表于 3/9/2016 2:13:45 AM

还不能call吗,我都困了
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cindy2012
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https://www.facebook.com/endfederalreserve/videos/681625301939928/
  
和川粉们分享这个video!
  含笑的猫 发表于 3/9/2016 2:17:19 AM
哈,我也刚看完这个,是川粉们自己制作的吧
含笑的猫
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  还不能call吗,我都困了
  luckyso 发表于 3/9/2016 2:20:29 AM
川爷目前领先,cruz其后,我做主啦,川爷赢阿喽哈州!
含笑的猫
15918 楼
哈,我也刚看完这个,是川粉们自己制作的吧

  cindy2012 发表于 3/9/2016 2:25:40 AM
应该是的,挺感人的!
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cindy2012
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川爷目前领先,cruz其后,我做主啦,川爷赢阿喽哈州!
  含笑的猫 发表于 3/9/2016 2:26:46 AM

是吗?那我们放心睡觉去了,你给看好了啊,明早起来万一有变,拿你是问哈~~
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nonexistance
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cnn just called Trump wins HI
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luckyso
15921 楼
cnn just called Trump wins HI

  nonexistance 发表于 3/9/2016 2:32:30 AM
撒花!Aloha就是欢乐!终于可以去睡啦,大家都做好梦
含笑的猫
15922 楼
川爷赢了阿喽哈州。
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icylava
15923 楼
撒花!更爱夏威夷了
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PositiveVibe
15924 楼
今天成绩真不错啊,四个州,赢了三个!!!!而且两个都是百分比在四十多快五十。川哥再接再厉!!!
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jianzhiqi1234
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Aloha州还是caucus,不容易!
新春快乐hahaha
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我爱的州都赢啦。耶
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Louisewu
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撒花庆祝~坑王再唱衰Trump也没用!就是这么势不可挡~
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goldfish
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https://www.facebook.com/endfederalreserve/videos/681625301939928/
  
和川粉们分享这个video!
  含笑的猫 发表于 3/9/2016 2:17:19 AM

回帖里好多料,关于太监的
If you plan to vote for Ted Cruz, you MUST know these things! Educate yourselves on him and his wife

* Heidi Cruz has been employed by Goldman Sachs since 2005. She is currently on leave.

* Heidi Cruz is a member of the leftist council on foreign relations, advocates of world Government and a New World Order.

* Ted Cruz was George Bush's top policy advisor.

* Ted Cruz was in the federal Trade Commission.

* Ted and Heidi met when they were both Bush staffers.

* Cruz advised on legal affairs and Heidi on economic policy for the bush administration.

* Heidi was director for the Western Hemisphere on the national security council under Condoleeza Rice.

* Heidi served as deputy U.S. Trade Representative to USTR head,
Robert Zoellick, working on China trade policy.

* Ted Cruz' campaign chairman, Chad Sweet, is a former CIA officer.
He also worked for Goldman Sachs.

* Ted Cruz voted for cloture on TPA, (trans pacific partnership agreement)
fast track trade authority, removing the hurdle of concern for further amendment, and clearing the way for passage!
It didn't have to be recorded, so nobody knew this.
He voted NOT to require approval of congress before other countries could join, including China.

* Cruz has openly stated that he will NOT use a deportation force, and will continue to use the failed ICE system, where an illegal has to commit a crime first, then be caught.

* Cruz belongs to the radical Christian sect of 7 mountains dominionism, that seeks to place their members in control of our culture and create a NWO though the domination of business, government, media, arts & entertainment, education, family, and religion. He is the appointed messiah/savior of their group.

* Ted Cruz has only been a citizen for about 19 months! He renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2014 so he could run for president.
There are also other reasons that he is not constitutionally eligible, including the fact that both of his parents were NOT U.S. Citizens when he was born, only his mother was.

Wise up, he's not who you think he is
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没想到夏威夷也赢了!

标题可以改了 拿下三城
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Anand
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该用户帖子内容已被屏蔽
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liangdoudou
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撒花庆祝~坑王再唱衰Trump也没用!就是这么势不可挡~

  Louisewu 发表于 3/9/2016 4:02:31 AM

他越唱衰越说明他怕,好些民主党人士现在居然都还能为坑王说话、洗白了。
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drspurple
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  他越唱衰越说明他怕,好些民主党人士现在居然都还能为坑王说话、洗白了。

  liangdoudou 发表于 3/9/2016 8:33:50 AM

无边落木萧萧下 不尽长江滚滚来
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new2013
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还是觉得他赢不了。毕竟人口结构变了。

他越唱衰越说明他怕,好些民主党人士现在居然都还能为坑王说话、洗白了。liangdoudou 发表于 2016-03-09 08:49 AM
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liangdoudou
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还是觉得他赢不了。毕竟人口结构变了。
        
        
        
          new2013 发表于 3/9/2016 8:45:09 AM

至少有希望啊, 我们如果都不努力争取一下就更没希望了。
        
         看版上有的中产还反trump就是因为自己夫妻独身子女双方父母都要来美吃福利,Trump反的是非法移民, 非法移民abuse福利只能影响的是合法移民和本国人民的利益,除非他父母不走合法移民路径 是想黑下来吃福利,太目光短浅了。  想着父母吃福利的估计收入一般,到时候美国真不行了,难民营自家附近一堆,高收入的卖掉各处房产带着存款走人就是,他们这样一般收入的一大家子人想挪哪都不容易。
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nonexistance
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I am still worried about his delegates towards 1237. Even the big victory last night only landed <50% of total delegates for him. Really hope he can win FL, OH and IL next week.
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atypia
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下个礼拜如果trump不能赢下oh和fl,他很可能拿不到半数。中部玉米地,犹他应该都会挺cruz。东部的州开的差不多了。剩下的nc,ny,nj,pa,ma,de,trump能赢多少还是未知数,特别是dc附近的州。pa只有9票。establishement的目的很有可能会得逞。
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aven
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我朋友(老美,白人)是IDAHO commerce of chamber 的成员。他说是ROMNY让他们选的CRUZ.本来不少人是打算选TRUMP的。
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2016走好运
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  至少有希望啊, 我们如果都不努力争取一下就更没希望了。
          
          看版上有的中产还反trump就是因为自己夫妻独身子女双方父母都要来美吃福利,Trump反的是非法移民, 非法移民abuse福利只能影响的是合法移民和本国人民的利益,除非他父母不走合法移民路径 是想黑下来吃福利,太目光短浅了。  想着父母吃福利的估计收入一般,到时候美国真不行了,难民营自家附近一堆,高收入的卖掉各处房产带着存款走人就是,他们这样一般收入的一大家子人想挪哪都不容易。
        
        
      
    
    
  
  

  liangdoudou 发表于 3/9/2016 8:50:59 AM
不一定,我就认识加州高收入的家庭(房子2 million那种),父母还是吃福利,因为父母收入和子女收入是分开算的
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2016走好运
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我朋友(老美,白人)是IDAHO commerce of chamber 的成员。他说是ROMNY让他们选的CRUZ.本来不少人是打算选TRUMP的。
  aven 发表于 3/9/2016 9:12:48 AM

当年麦凯恩没有当选,我还惋惜了一阵
当年罗姆尼没有当选,我还错怪了胖州长
现在看这两个纯粹是活该!
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2016走好运
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下个礼拜如果trump不能赢下oh和fl,他很可能拿不到半数。中部玉米地,犹他应该都会挺cruz。东部的州开的差不多了。剩下的nc,ny,nj,pa,ma,de,trump能赢多少还是未知数,特别是dc附近的州。pa只有9票。establishement的目的很有可能会得逞。
  atypia 发表于 3/9/2016 9:02:33 AM

可惜他昨天都没有过半,唉
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ScottishFold
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下个礼拜如果trump不能赢下oh和fl,他很可能拿不到半数。中部玉米地,犹他应该都会挺cruz。东部的州开的差不多了。剩下的nc,ny,nj,pa,ma,de,trump能赢多少还是未知数,特别是dc附近的州。pa只有9票。establishement的目的很有可能会得逞。
  atypia 发表于 3/9/2016 9:02:33 AM
不要太纠结于票数,ESTABLISHMENT也不是铁板一块,只要TRUMP下周还是大胜,迫于民众的压力,TRUMP也会上。
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2016走好运
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下个礼拜如果trump不能赢下oh和fl,他很可能拿不到半数。中部玉米地,犹他应该都会挺cruz。东部的州开的差不多了。剩下的nc,ny,nj,pa,ma,de,trump能赢多少还是未知数,特别是dc附近的州。pa只有9票。establishement的目的很有可能会得逞。
  atypia 发表于 3/9/2016 9:02:33 AM

请问中部州是winner take all还是按比例?
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tuer
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我朋友(老美,白人)是IDAHO commerce of chamber 的成员。他说是ROMNY让他们选的CRUZ.本来不少人是打算选TRUMP的。
aven 发表于 3/9/2016 9:12:48 AM

Romney要不要这么贱啊,好歹Trump当初帮他拉钱的啊。这么忘恩负义的东西!!!这些人三观怎么回事!!!
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liangdoudou
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不一定,我就认识加州高收入的家庭(房子2 million那种),父母还是吃福利,因为父母收入和子女收入是分开算的
  
  
   2016走好运 发表于 3/9/2016 9:14:39 AM

如果父母是合法移民吃福利还好啊,反正按流程走绿卡公民,Trump并不伤害这种人的利益,他们也没有理由因为这个反trump,除非是黑下来吃福利的。
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cindy2012
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我朋友(老美,白人)是IDAHO commerce of chamber 的成员。他说是ROMNY让他们选的CRUZ.本来不少人是打算选TRUMP的。
  aven 发表于 3/9/2016 9:12:48 AM

Romney 贱到这地步了
干嘛听他的
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drspurple
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下个礼拜如果trump不能赢下oh和fl,他很可能拿不到半数。中部玉米地,犹他应该都会挺cruz。东部的州开的差不多了。剩下的nc,ny,nj,pa,ma,de,trump能赢多少还是未知数,特别是dc附近的州。pa只有9票。establishement的目的很有可能会得逞。
  atypia 发表于 3/9/2016 9:02:33 AM
这种恐慌是没必要的,PA怎么也不可能只有9票的,前面都贴了,75票,并不是winner takes all.

TedCruz前面的得分主要靠德州,后面并没有德州一样的大馅饼落在他手里,所以川哥以后在winner takes most州的得票比例会增长的。
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cindy2012
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所谓小人真的面相上带着
Romney两眼距离很近,而且眉压眼,典型阴险小人而且难成事的相
他挡不住Trump的
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atypia
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回复 15922楼2016走好运的帖子

中部州都是caucus,只有romney有影响力的犹他是primary
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atypia
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不要太纠结于票数,ESTABLISHMENT也不是铁板一块,只要TRUMP下周还是大胜,迫于民众的压力,TRUMP也会上。

  ScottishFold 发表于 3/9/2016 9:18:12 AM
希望如此
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atypia
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这种恐慌是没必要的,PA怎么也不可能只有9票的,前面都贴了,75票,并不是winner takes all.

TedCruz前面的得分主要靠德州,后面并没有德州一样的大馅饼落在他手里,所以川哥以后在winner takes most州的得票比例会增长的。

  drspurple 发表于 3/9/2016 9:30:04 AM
75票里只有9票是pledged
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drspurple
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75票里只有9票是pledged

  atypia 发表于 3/9/2016 9:36:29 AM
是这个意思吗?我并不知道“loophole primary"到底是什么意思

Tuesday 26 April 2016: Pennsylvania Presidential Primary.
54 of the Commonwealth's 71 delegates to the Republican National Convention will be directly elected (their names appear on the ballot) in a LOOPHOLE type primary, in which delegates are elected separately from a presidential preference. Each of the 18 Congressional District is allocated 3 delegates (54 = 18 districts × 3 delegates/district). Rule 8.4 of the Republican State Committee of Pennsylvania's Rules states that all delegates elected by Congressional District "...shall run at large within the Districts and shall not be officially committed to any particular candidate on the ballot.".
17 (10 base at-large delegates plus 4 bonus delegates plus 3 RNC delegates) of the Commonwealth's 71 delegates to the Republican National Convention delegates are bound for the 1st ballot to the candidate who receives the most votes in the Pennsylvania Presidential Primary. The delegates are released if the candidate withdraws, suspends, or terminates his/her campaign or publicly releases his/her delegates. [Rule 8.3]
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yuerde
15952 楼
实在是很担心老头儿忙乎了半天最后被邪恶掉不提名
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cherubtessie
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撒花!更爱夏威夷了
  icylava 发表于 3/9/2016 2:40:12 AM

哈哈哈,我也是,我喜欢的州住过的州老头子都赢了
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cherubtessie
15954 楼
下个礼拜如果trump不能赢下oh和fl,他很可能拿不到半数。中部玉米地,犹他应该都会挺cruz。东部的州开的差不多了。剩下的nc,ny,nj,pa,ma,de,trump能赢多少还是未知数,特别是dc附近的州。pa只有9票。establishement的目的很有可能会得逞。
  atypia 发表于 3/9/2016 9:02:33 AM
PA这么个州怎么才9票,idaho是什么地方人又少影响力又低能有那么多票,哎
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MeerkatNYC
15955 楼
我朋友(老美,白人)是IDAHO commerce of chamber 的成员。他说是ROMNY让他们选的CRUZ.本来不少人是打算选TRUMP的。
  aven 发表于 3/9/2016 9:12:48 AM
mm既然有这样的朋友,还不赶快游说,让他选Trump,顺便把他的其他朋友也影响过来。不明白为什么Romney让他们选谁,他们就得选谁?选谁难道不是自己的决定,非要公开吗?这后面有什么利益关系吗?
含笑的猫
15956 楼

  回帖里好多料,关于太监的
If you plan to vote for Ted Cruz, you MUST know these things! Educate yourselves on him and his wife

* Heidi Cruz has been employed by Goldman Sachs since 2005. She is currently on leave.

* Heidi Cruz is a member of the leftist council on foreign relations, advocates of world Government and a New World Order.

* Ted Cruz was George Bush's top policy advisor.

* Ted Cruz was in the federal Trade Commission.

* Ted and Heidi met when they were both Bush staffers.

* Cruz advised on legal affairs and Heidi on economic policy for the bush administration.

* Heidi was director for the Western Hemisphere on the national security council under Condoleeza Rice.

* Heidi served as deputy U.S. Trade Representative to USTR head,
Robert Zoellick, working on China trade policy.

* Ted Cruz' campaign chairman, Chad Sweet, is a former CIA officer.
He also worked for Goldman Sachs.

* Ted Cruz voted for cloture on TPA, (trans pacific partnership agreement)
fast track trade authority, removing the hurdle of concern for further amendment, and clearing the way for passage!
It didn't have to be recorded, so nobody knew this.
He voted NOT to require approval of congress before other countries could join, including China.

* Cruz has openly stated that he will NOT use a deportation force, and will continue to use the failed ICE system, where an illegal has to commit a crime first, then be caught.

* Cruz belongs to the radical Christian sect of 7 mountains dominionism, that seeks to place their members in control of our culture and create a NWO though the domination of business, government, media, arts & entertainment, education, family, and religion. He is the appointed messiah/savior of their group.

* Ted Cruz has only been a citizen for about 19 months! He renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2014 so he could run for president.
There are also other reasons that he is not constitutionally eligible, including the fact that both of his parents were NOT U.S. Citizens when he was born, only his mother was.

Wise up, he's not who you think he is
  goldfish 发表于 3/9/2016 7:18:08 AM
Cruz 就是个撒谎不脸红的骗子!妈蛋,才成为美国公民19个月就想当总统,强烈怀疑他是加拿大派来的卧底!
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cherubtessie
15957 楼
不一定,我就认识加州高收入的家庭(房子2 million那种),父母还是吃福利,因为父母收入和子女收入是分开算的
  

  2016走好运 发表于 3/9/2016 9:14:39 AM

这种人我也认识不少,呵呵,不止是加州呢,而且每次还跟我爸妈讲这种事,烦死
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cherubtessie
15958 楼
mm既然有这样的朋友,还不赶快游说,让他选Trump,顺便把他的其他朋友也影响过来。不明白为什么Romney让他们选谁,他们就得选谁?选谁难道不是自己的决定,非要公开吗?这后面有什么利益关系吗?

  MeerkatNYC 发表于 3/9/2016 10:09:48 AM

当然是有利益关系啦,不然谁理螺母娘娘啊
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ScottishFold
15959 楼
苹果、谷歌、特斯拉密会 科技巨头讨论如何阻止川普当选总统
http://news.ltn.com.tw/news/world/breakingnews/1626173
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drspurple
15960 楼
PA这么个州怎么才9票,idaho是什么地方人又少影响力又低能有那么多票,哎

  cherubtessie 发表于 3/9/2016 10:07:24 AM
我也看不出就票怎么算出来的,很奇葩的规矩;希望川哥有对策对付这种奇葩州。establishment也不是铁板一块,尤其PA安排在佛州之后,如果佛州打赢,希望这里边的landscape能有些变化;
另外MA已经选过了,麻省的沉默大多数已经投过川哥了。
含笑的猫
15961 楼
下个礼拜如果trump不能赢下oh和fl,他很可能拿不到半数。中部玉米地,犹他应该都会挺cruz。东部的州开的差不多了。剩下的nc,ny,nj,pa,ma,de,trump能赢多少还是未知数,特别是dc附近的州。pa只有9票。establishement的目的很有可能会得逞。
  atypia 发表于 3/9/2016 9:02:33 AM
真不甘心让制建派的阴谋得逞啊!老爷子到时能不能独立参选啊?就不甘心那么退出了!
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Olympian
15962 楼
这种恐慌是没必要的,PA怎么也不可能只有9票的,前面都贴了,75票,并不是winner takes all.

TedCruz前面的得分主要靠德州,后面并没有德州一样的大馅饼落在他手里,所以川哥以后在winner takes most州的得票比例会增长的。

  drspurple 发表于 3/9/2016 9:30:04 AM

剩下的,他能拿一半的机会不大。。。尤其是caucus多。
含笑的猫
15963 楼

Romney要不要这么贱啊,好歹Trump当初帮他拉钱的啊。这么忘恩负义的东西!!!这些人三观怎么回事!!!
  tuer 发表于 3/9/2016 9:20:02 AM
靠,这些小人就是无耻没底线的,没有羞耻之心,他们才不在乎别人怎么看呢!光脚的不怕穿鞋的呀!
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atypia
15964 楼
是这个意思吗?我并不知道“loophole primary"到底是什么意思

Tuesday 26 April 2016: Pennsylvania Presidential Primary.
54 of the Commonwealth's 71 delegates to the Republican National Convention will be directly elected (their names appear on the ballot) in a LOOPHOLE type primary, in which delegates are elected separately from a presidential preference. Each of the 18 Congressional District is allocated 3 delegates (54 = 18 districts × 3 delegates/district). Rule 8.4 of the Republican State Committee of Pennsylvania's Rules states that all delegates elected by Congressional District "...shall run at large within the Districts and shall not be officially committed to any particular candidate on the ballot.".
17 (10 base at-large delegates plus 4 bonus delegates plus 3 RNC delegates) of the Commonwealth's 71 delegates to the Republican National Convention delegates are bound for the 1st ballot to the candidate who receives the most votes in the Pennsylvania Presidential Primary. The delegates are released if the candidate withdraws, suspends, or terminates his/her campaign or publicly releases his/her delegates. [Rule 8.3]


  drspurple 发表于 3/9/2016 9:41:53 AM
没错,所以我应该纠正一下,是17票,winner take all.但是对于pa这样的大州太少了。
含笑的猫
15965 楼

  Romney 贱到这地步了
干嘛听他的


  cindy2012 发表于 3/9/2016 9:30:03 AM
对啊,土豆州是primary,干嘛要听小人的话,自己投喜欢的人不就行了,难道他们用枪顶着你? 坚决抵制土豆州的土豆,川粉们都别吃!
含笑的猫
15966 楼
实在是很担心老头儿忙乎了半天最后被邪恶掉不提名
  yuerde 发表于 3/9/2016 9:51:05 AM
是啊,就担心这个!老爷子和川粉们忙活半天,却被gop的混蛋们用冠冕堂皇的理由剔除出去,不甘心啊!!!!
含笑的猫
15967 楼
苹果、谷歌、特斯拉密会 科技巨头讨论如何阻止川普当选总统
http://news.ltn.com.tw/news/world/breakingnews/1626173
  ScottishFold 发表于 3/9/2016 10:12:15 AM
这些高科技大佬去SSSSSSSSSSS !他们就要妄图用机器人代替人类干活了,到时候失业率高到天边去了!
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nonexistance
15968 楼
中西部靠加拿大的那几个油田州,cruz赢的机率太大了。trump只能寄希望于大州。估计真的要苦战到6月份了
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whyhere
15969 楼
这些高科技大佬
含笑的猫 发表于 3/9/2016 10:32:24 AM

mm冷静,科技进步是有好处的哈.
含笑的猫
15970 楼



就为了让这个渣滓和其狐朋狗友们赶快离开美国,大家就要支持川普!川普加油!扫垃圾出国门啊!
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tuer
15971 楼
这些高科技大佬去SSSSSSSSSSS !他们就要妄图用机器人代替人类干活了,到时候失业率高到天边去了!

含笑的猫 发表于 3/9/2016 10:32:24 AM

我觉得如果都用机器人也好,但前提是象科幻片里的一样,每个人都不用干活儿就可以被机器人服务啊,科技公司赚那么多钱,那就高税收来保证人人都有福利啊,便宜别让他们自己占尽了然后让整个社会更贫穷!
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liangdoudou
15972 楼
中西部靠加拿大的那几个油田州,cruz赢的机率太大了。trump只能寄希望于大州。估计真的要苦战到6月份了
  nonexistance 发表于 3/9/2016 10:36:27 AM

Trump真不容易, Bloomingberg看着势头不对就退了,本来还对他有好感看了他退出说的那些话顿时好感全无。
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cherubtessie
15973 楼

我觉得如果都用机器人也好,但前提是象科幻片里的一样,每个人都不用干活儿就可以被机器人服务啊,科技公司赚那么多钱,那就高税收来保证人人都有福利啊,便宜别让他们自己占尽了然后让整个社会更贫穷!
  tuer 发表于 3/9/2016 10:52:25 AM

不可能,现在地球还是人口太多资源少,只能让穷人日子越来越难过,这是for sure
含笑的猫
15974 楼

我觉得如果都用机器人也好,但前提是象科幻片里的一样,每个人都不用干活儿就可以被机器人服务啊,科技公司赚那么多钱,那就高税收来保证人人都有福利啊,便宜别让他们自己占尽了然后让整个社会更贫穷!
  tuer 发表于 3/9/2016 10:52:25 AM
我不是反对高科技!我只是反感那些高科技大佬反对川普的态度!他们只知道自己赚钱,觉得川普要求海外工厂的工作返回美国本土触动了他们的利益,所以想联合起来对抗川普,这种心态真讨厌!
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cherubtessie
15975 楼
我不是反对高科技!我只是反感那些高科技大佬反对川普的态度!他们只知道自己赚钱,觉得川普要求海外工厂的工作返回美国本土触动了他们的利益,所以想联合起来对抗川普,这种心态真讨厌!

  含笑的猫 发表于 3/9/2016 10:58:01 AM

科技进步是不可能阻止的,要发生的始终要发生
且活且珍惜吧,人类
含笑的猫
15976 楼

  科技进步是不可能阻止的,要发生的始终要发生
且活且珍惜吧,人类

  cherubtessie 发表于 3/9/2016 10:58:47 AM
看来科幻片里人类灭亡的故事要上演了!
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QIQITG
15977 楼
https://www.facebook.com/endfederalreserve/videos/681625301939928/
  
和川粉们分享这个video!
  含笑的猫 发表于 3/9/2016 2:17:19 AM
谢谢分享!好感动……Trump的形象好立体啊!
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MeerkatNYC
15978 楼

  Trump真不容易, Bloomingberg看着势头不对就退了,本来还对他有好感看了他退出说的那些话顿时好感全无。

  liangdoudou 发表于 3/9/2016 10:56:16 AM
同感。Bloomingberg一样是个投机主义者,一方面说自己是爱国者,有patriotic duty,对人民多么多么有责任,话锋一转,就开始评估利害得失,知道自己要投入很多又胜算不大,就缩回去了。这时候你的爱国热情哪去了,你的责任感哪去了?
其实很多纽约人说那些年纽约被治理得好主要是朱利奥尼的功劳,Bloomingberg在后面摘了桃子。
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Louisewu
15979 楼

   他越唱衰越说明他怕,好些民主党人士现在居然都还能为坑王说话、洗白了。
  
   liangdoudou 发表于 3/9/2016 8:33:50 AM

唱不唱衰也改变不了他没投票权的事实……让他自己瞎嚷嚷去吧
我不想对支持其他候选人的会员人身攻击,但不得不说很多民主党的就是用双重标准衡量Trump
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luckyso
15980 楼

如果最后票数不到半数,还可以和别人trade,把别人的delegates拿过来,记得以前看过一篇文章说Trump最后招安州长,把他的delegates拿过来就可以。关键是上1000, 然后就好说
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mangooo26
15981 楼

GOP的brokered convention 从来在历史上就是直接把位置送给猪党的,大佬指定的人选从来都不是民意的选择,还没有一次指定的人选能够赢得猪党。
如果是搞brokered convention, 那就是老巫婆的天下了
是啊,就担心这个!老爷子和川粉们忙活半天,却被gop的混蛋们用冠冕堂皇的理由剔除出去,不甘心啊!!!!
  含笑的猫 发表于 3/9/2016 10:29:35 AM
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BlackQueen
15982 楼
同感。Bloomingberg一样是个投机主义者,一方面说自己是爱国者,有patriotic duty,对人民多么多么有责任,话锋一转,就开始评估利害得失,知道自己要投入很多又胜算不大,就缩回去了。这时候你的爱国热情哪去了,你的责任感哪去了?
其实很多纽约人说那些年纽约被治理得好主要是朱利奥尼的功劳,Bloomingberg在后面摘了桃子。

  MeerkatNYC 发表于 3/9/2016 12:16:40 PM

这次bbg太让人失望了,trump是never give up,bbg是还没开始参选就认为自己一定输了,不放一起看都是成功的商人,放一起看,高下立现
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liangdoudou
15983 楼

    唱不唱衰也改变不了他没投票权的事实……让他自己瞎嚷嚷去吧
   我不想对支持其他候选人的会员人身攻击,但不得不说很多民主党的就是用双重标准衡量Trump
  
  
    Louisewu 发表于 3/9/2016 12:19:17 PM

原来他也没投票权啊,发现好几个热衷唱衰的都没投票权。
   公民的不会担心父母没福利,也不会那么在乎H1b。
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luckyso
15984 楼

这次bbg太让人失望了,trump是never give up,bbg是还没开始参选就认为自己一定输了,不放一起看都是成功的商人,放一起看,高下立现

BlackQueen 发表于 3/9/2016 12:39:04 PM

他如果像Trump一样被媒体扒皮炮轰几个月,那些所谓的支持者还能剩几个?参选和在旁边防冷枪完全不同的概念,他没有guts
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xiang2010
15985 楼
Fiorina endorses Cruz
看好她哦,带衰Liar
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cindy2012
15986 楼

GOP的brokered convention 从来在历史上就是直接把位置送给猪党的,大佬指定的人选从来都不是民意的选择,还没有一次指定的人选能够赢得猪党。
如果是搞brokered convention, 那就是老巫婆的天下了

  

  mangooo26 发表于 3/9/2016 12:37:08 PM

FB好多人说了,真搞brokered convention,大家要去Cleveland 集会抗议
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cindy2012
15987 楼

如果最后票数不到半数,还可以和别人trade,把别人的delegates拿过来,记得以前看过一篇文章说Trump最后招安州长,把他的delegates拿过来就可以。关键是上1000, 然后就好说

  luckyso 发表于 3/9/2016 12:23:16 PM
说不定carson同学也会同意
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icylava
15988 楼
看文学城上猜测Trump Sir可能放大招让Cruz当VP。。。。。。
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PositiveVibe
15989 楼

如果最后票数不到半数,还可以和别人trade,把别人的delegates拿过来,记得以前看过一篇文章说Trump最后招安州长,把他的delegates拿过来就可以。关键是上1000, 然后就好说

  luckyso 发表于 3/9/2016 12:23:16 PM
这也行?别Rubio和Kasich退了把它们的给Cruz了
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PositiveVibe
15990 楼
看文学城上猜测Trump Sir可能放大招让Cruz当VP。。。。。。
  icylava 发表于 3/9/2016 1:18:50 PM

不可能,他很讨厌Cruz,说是最讨厌的政客
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icylava
15991 楼

  不可能,他很讨厌Cruz,说是最讨厌的政客

  PositiveVibe 发表于 3/9/2016 1:20:20 PM

对啊这个脑洞有点忒大了。。。。
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tuer
15992 楼
我觉得媒体现在在拿南希里根的逝世做文章啊,太没道德下限了。cnn里反复强调说,里根是conservative, very very conservative。
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PositiveVibe
15993 楼
我觉得媒体现在在拿南希里根的逝世做文章啊,太没道德下限了。cnn里反复强调说,里根是conservative, very very conservative。
  tuer 发表于 3/9/2016 1:32:18 PM

里根原来是民主党的啊,被南希她爸给掰成共和党了,这不是跟Trump差不多的回路么
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liangdoudou
15994 楼
https://www.facebook.com/endfederalreserve/videos/681625301939928/
  
和川粉们分享这个video!
  含笑的猫 发表于 3/9/2016 2:17:19 AM

看了好感动啊,never ever give up!
唯食忘忧
15995 楼
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rksd80-FCAw

看这个video,trump真的很懂经济哇!大家可以各种分享。
15996 楼
看文学城上猜测Trump Sir可能放大招让Cruz当VP。。。。。。
icylava 发表于 3/9/2016 1:18:50 PM
脑残,Kasich可能性都比它大
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PositiveVibe
15997 楼
这个不错
  
  
  Colorado1, Wyoming1
  Delegates in Colorado are selected through a process that starts with the March 1st caucuses and culminates at the state convention on April 9th. Colorado Delegates can go to the national convention as unbound or bound to a candidate. The Wyoming precinct caucuses on March 1st do not bind any delegates, but they start a delegate selection process that culminates at the state convention on April 14-16. Delegates from Wyoming can be bound or unbound.
  Open**
  Republicans and Independents can vote in these primaries, but Democrats can't.
  * — Threshold
  Candidates have to reach a certain level of support to earn delegates
  10% threshold: New Hampshire, Minnesota, Kansas, Maine, Rhode Island
  20% threshold: Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Louisiana, Puerto Rico, Idaho, New York, Connecticut, Washington
  15% threshold: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Michigan, Mississippi, District of Columbia, Utah, New Mexico
  5% threshold: Massachusetts, Kentucky
  13% threshold: Alaska
  # — Ceiling
  Candidates can win all at-large or all delegates by surpassing a certain level of support.
  The ceiling is 50 percent in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, Vermont, Maine, Puerto Rico, Idaho, Michigan, Utah and Connecticut.
  The ceiling is 66 percent in Tennessee.
  The ceiling is 85 percent in Minnesota.
  If a candidate reaches the ceiling in Alabama, Oklahoma, Tennessee or Texas, he or she earns all the at-large delegates from the state.
  If a candidate reaches the ceiling in Georgia, Minnesota, Vermont, Maine, Puerto Rico, Idaho, Michigan, Utah or Connecticut, he or she earns all the at-large and congressional district delegates from the state.
  Arkansas: every candidate who gets over 15 percent gets one at-large delegate. If no candidate gets over 50 percent, the remaining delegates are allocated proportionally among those who get over 15 percent. If a candidate gets over 50 percent, he or she gets the remaining at-large delegates.
  ▽ — Congressional District Delegates
  Congressional district delegates are allocated according to results in that district rather than statewide. The rules are the same for the at-large and congressional delegates (e.g. same floor, same ceiling, proportional or WTA, etc.) in most states. Here are the states in which they differ significantly and the ways in which they differ:
  Arkansas — the congressional district delegates are allocated proportionally with no threshold, unless a candidate gets over 50 percent of the vote in that district. In that case they get all three delegates.
  Georgia and Minnesota — There's no ceiling in the congressional districts.
  Louisiana — There's no threshold in the congressional districts.
  Mississippi — There's not threshold in the congressional districts and if a candidate gets over 50 percent of the vote in a district, he or she gets all the delegates from that district.
  Illinois and Pennsylvania — at-large delegates are WTA by statewide vote, but congressional district delegates are elected directly.
  Missouri — Nine at-large delegates are allocated to the statewide winner, and five delegates are allocated to the winner of each congressional district. If a candidate gets over 50 percent he or she gets all the delegates.
  Connecticut — Plurality winner in each congressional district gets all three delegates.
  Rhode Island — If three candidates get over 10 percent in a congressional district, they each get one delegate. If any candidate gets over 67 percent in a district, they get all three delegates.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html
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jianzhiqi1234
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回复 15977楼PositiveVibe的帖子

赞,很清楚!
但是还是没有看懂怀俄明和科罗拉多是怎么回事,delegate自行选择不要投票的吗?
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dingdingdddd
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在知乎上看到一段:
事实上,我认为因为Cruz在Obamacare和Planned Parenthood等问题上的极端立场,在大选中对上Hillary必输无疑。而Trump反而因为在这些问题上立场温和,胜机较大。但是共和党建制派明显有一种“宁予国贼,不予家奴”的病态心理,即使冒着共和党分裂,大选失利,最高法院权利易位的巨大风险,也要把Trump拉下马。是的,建制派对他们的核心选民,有着一种主人对奴隶的傲慢心态,觉得只要大选年出来说两句场面话,奴隶们就应该感恩戴德了,这次看到奴隶们居然起来组织起来反抗,不由又惊又恼,决定不惜一切代价也要把这场反叛压制下去。

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xiang2010
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这个不错
  
  
   Colorado1, Wyoming1
   Delegates in Colorado are selected through a process that starts with the March 1st caucuses and culminates at the state convention on April 9th. Colorado Delegates can go to the national convention as unbound or bound to a candidate. The Wyoming precinct caucuses on March 1st do not bind any delegates, but they start a delegate selection process that culminates at the state convention on April 14-16. Delegates from Wyoming can be bound or unbound.
   Open**
   Republicans and Independents can vote in these primaries, but Democrats can't.
   * — Threshold
   Candidates have to reach a certain level of support to earn delegates
   10% threshold: New Hampshire, Minnesota, Kansas, Maine, Rhode Island
   20% threshold: Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Louisiana, Puerto Rico, Idaho, New York, Connecticut, Washington
   15% threshold: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Michigan, Mississippi, District of Columbia, Utah, New Mexico
   5% threshold: Massachusetts, Kentucky
   13% threshold: Alaska
   # — Ceiling
   Candidates can win all at-large or all delegates by surpassing a certain level of support.
   The ceiling is 50 percent in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, Vermont, Maine, Puerto Rico, Idaho, Michigan, Utah and Connecticut.
   The ceiling is 66 percent in Tennessee.
   The ceiling is 85 percent in Minnesota.
   If a candidate reaches the ceiling in Alabama, Oklahoma, Tennessee or Texas, he or she earns all the at-large delegates from the state.
   If a candidate reaches the ceiling in Georgia, Minnesota, Vermont, Maine, Puerto Rico, Idaho, Michigan, Utah or Connecticut, he or she earns all the at-large and congressional district delegates from the state.
   Arkansas: every candidate who gets over 15 percent gets one at-large delegate. If no candidate gets over 50 percent, the remaining delegates are allocated proportionally among those who get over 15 percent. If a candidate gets over 50 percent, he or she gets the remaining at-large delegates.
   ▽ — Congressional District Delegates
   Congressional district delegates are allocated according to results in that district rather than statewide. The rules are the same for the at-large and congressional delegates (e.g. same floor, same ceiling, proportional or WTA, etc.) in most states. Here are the states in which they differ significantly and the ways in which they differ:
   Arkansas — the congressional district delegates are allocated proportionally with no threshold, unless a candidate gets over 50 percent of the vote in that district. In that case they get all three delegates.
   Georgia and Minnesota — There's no ceiling in the congressional districts.
   Louisiana — There's no threshold in the congressional districts.
   Mississippi — There's not threshold in the congressional districts and if a candidate gets over 50 percent of the vote in a district, he or she gets all the delegates from that district.
   Illinois and Pennsylvania — at-large delegates are WTA by statewide vote, but congressional district delegates are elected directly.
   Missouri — Nine at-large delegates are allocated to the statewide winner, and five delegates are allocated to the winner of each congressional district. If a candidate gets over 50 percent he or she gets all the delegates.
   Connecticut — Plurality winner in each congressional district gets all three delegates.
   Rhode Island — If three candidates get over 10 percent in a congressional district, they each get one delegate. If any candidate gets over 67 percent in a district, they get all three delegates.
  
  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html
  

  PositiveVibe 发表于 3/9/2016 1:55:52 PM
真好,一目了然。