Accounting is a low pay job. Even you get a CPA, your chance to get a job is low. Even you get a Accounting job, the politics will bring headache... Because that job is kind of low tech.
Other other hand, database analyst bring much higher salary then Accounting job...
It depends which area you are in accounting.. Not all accounting jobs are low paid..
1) Try to improve your English; 2) Not need go to get another useless degree. Save your money and save your time. 3) Follow the right direction, pickup marketable skill, update resume and find a good job quickly, it only take about three to six month.
以下是引用土老国美在1/29/2012 8:48:00 PM的发言： If you have a Accounting degree, you do not need to spend time for the useless CPA exam. It doesn't help you much for job hunting.
以下是引用土老国美在1/29/2012 9:38:00 PM的发言： Accounting is a low pay job. Even you get a CPA, your chance to get a job is low. Even you get a Accounting job, the politics will bring headache... Because that job is kind of low tech. Other other hand, database analyst bring much higher salary then Accounting job... ＡＣＣＯＵＴＩＮＧ越老工资越高，少说１０几万 ＰＯＬＩＴＩＣＳ不管什么工作都会有 ＩＴ的越老越没优势
-- There are many good jobs do not need a CPA. -- Many people even with a hard earned CPA, still can't find a good job. -- Specially for those who has a gap, who stayed in home raise kids after get a CPA, find a job again in Accounting is very hard. -- In this case, find Database Analyst job is a better way to go. -- Accounting plus Database skill will open a new world for those who can't find a Accounting job.
"ＡＣＣＯＵＴＩＮＧ越老工资越高，少说１０几万" -- The salary for Entry level Accounting job is very low. -- It is hard to enter this kind of low salary job if you have years of Gap.
"ＰＯＬＩＴＩＣＳ不管什么工作都会有" -- It is true. -- Low tech job usually involve more politics. -- High tech job has less politics because people have the marketable skill.
"ＩＴ的越老越没优势" -- It is true for IT software developers, like JAVA, C++ developers. -- It is not true for peole who know Database skills. -- Because Database is not change much. -- And database experience is accumulatable, the older, the better. -- A Sr, Database Analyst has much nicer lifestyle than a Sr. Accounting people, and they earn the similar salary. -- Again, here we focus on how to help people who do not have a job now to find a good job in a quick way. Database Analyst job do not require you get another useless degree (like Accounting), do not require you pass a license (like a CPA).
"我做ＡＣＣＯＵＮＴＩＮＧ这一行时间也不短了．你说的关于ＡＣＣＯＵＮＴＩＮＧ的几乎句句都错．" -- The topic is focus on how to help a people who want a job to find a job; -- As a people who worked in Accounting for many years, from your heart, recall the time when you start your Accounting job: Does your job require a Accounting degree? Yes. How much salary of your first Accounting job? Yes, very low. Therefore, what 老土 said is correct from your experience.
Do you want our new friend spend money to get another useless degree, than get a job? No. Do you want our friend get the low pay job as you did many years ago? No, you don't.
-- Database skills is used every where, in all the companies. Easily find jobs in every city. -- 学校,医院,公司,政府,保险,银行,法律,运输,通讯. -- The nice thing is: this job do not require a hard degree, and offer better salary (because it is hugh tech job). -- And some company offer you work from home. -- Many Bio Ph.D. facing budget now, can't find good job now. This is a excelent enter point.
-- The data shown that people (with many years of gap) can get Database Analyst job with starting salary from $50k to $55/hour. -- This is Solid Data from the successful people who want oto make change of their life.
lz是来做广告的，以前看见类似的帖子，jm们当心 以下是引用土老国美在1/29/2012 8:48:00 PM的发言： If you do not have a job, if you do not like you current job, if you want find a good job, if you are a lady, there is one kind of job you should try. The job title can be any of the following: Database Analyst / System Analyst / Market Analyst / Business Analyst / Reporting Engineer Price Analyst / Labor Force Analyst
It doesn't matter what title they are, as long as the job requires Database knowledge, it means the same thing.
You already have a degree in China, really do not need waste your time and money to get another degree.
If you have a Accounting degree, you do not need to spend time for the useless CPA exam. It doesn't help you much for job hunting.
以下是引用土老国美在1/30/2012 3:44:00 AM的发言： 一个多年没工作，又很想工作的主妇，照老土的建议，几个月后找到可心的工作，生命就改变了．一个多年没工作，又很想工作的主妇，看了你的帖子，几个月后仍在家呆着出不去．哪个好？ 不用脑子想都知道．Write in English is just because typing English is faste...... 完全不问背景经验，几个月培训就有工作，这完全就是国内野鸡职业培训学校的口吻。
以下是引用aeolous在1/29/2012 9:03:00 PM的发言：
需要什么技能呢，excel? SAS?
以下是引用 土老国美 的发言：
Excel is a good start point.Advanced Excel skills is widely used in........
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刚想去报名学，
有绿卡，只想找个普通工作，学哪个呢？
Accounting is a low pay job.
Even you get a CPA, your chance to get a job is low.
Even you get a Accounting job, the politics will bring headache...
Because that job is kind of low tech.
Other other hand, database analyst bring much higher salary then Accounting job...
It depends which area you are in accounting.. Not all accounting jobs are low paid..
谢谢。
真心请教lz，帮我看看我这个条件能行不？英语不是很好但是日常交流没问题，没有美国的degree（日本本科学位精通日语），来美后没工作过，但是有在日本工作的工作经验，会基础excel，有绿卡。是否还需要再读个相关学位，或者去社区大学学习？
谢谢。
lz不是免费帮人的，lz是给自己的网站作广告的
lz不是免费帮人的，lz是给自己的网站作广告的
有内幕？
lz签名档里面有链接啊。。。。。
难到有的中国人真的就那么弱智？连好坏都分不清？
出事的，外遇的帖，大家都追着回．
帖个对每一个想找工作的人和家都好的，就想办法封杀．
懒得理你
那我也可以教主妇不出家门轻松赚钱得
我好像不该来这拉广告的
以下是引用phoenixman!在1/29/2012 10:15:00 PM的发言：
lz签名档里面有链接啊。。。。。
哈哈。。。你开课吧，肯定比lz受欢迎
求闭门赚钱大法
他的网站我上去看过了，文章的质量实在不能让人恭维
好多都是直接引用的其他网站的东西，还弄得特麻烦，点击一个就要输入一遍密码的
以下是引用glassfishct在1/29/2012 10:20:00 PM的发言：
如果lz是免费给大家做咨询的，值得表扬。可是在这里拽英文，讲也讲不清楚，明白给自己的网站做广告，不如直接交钱给华人网，大鸣大放地做广告。这点钱都不愿出，在这里偷偷摸摸地干这个，看来lz的事业发展的也不怎么样，怎么给别人提供咨询。
我也同意如果有国内的理工背景， 根本就不用再去念啥劳什子学位， 把英文练好是正事。
以下是引用土老国美在1/29/2012 10:25:00 PM的发言：
在签名里放网址的多了. 这就叫广告?
在这里给大家做咨询,收啥费了?
好好写几篇求职的精华贴，放在伊人职场里面甚至闲话中
质量好的自然有人追捧
别弄得跟传销似的
有点烦人了
以下是引用土老国美在1/29/2012 10:25:00 PM的发言：
在签名里放网址的多了. 这就叫广告?
在这里给大家做咨询,收啥费了?
周三晚上的会参加过吗?
你能找到第二个这样每周都FREE帮华人找工的专家会吗?
劝你一句，好酒不怕巷子深
适当宣传一下就好了
如果真是好酒，自然有人来帮你宣传的
而且已经有求职的专版了
你尽可以在里面宣传
跑到这里总让人感觉比较绝望
以下是引用土老国美在1/29/2012 10:30:00 PM的发言：
周三晚上的会参加过吗?
你能找到第二个这样每周都FREE帮华人找工的专家会吗?
1) Try to improve your English;
2) Not need go to get another useless degree. Save your money and save your time.
3) Follow the right direction, pickup marketable skill, update resume and find a good job quickly, it only take about three to six month.
刚才上网随便搜了下这类工作广告，基本还是要求理科类和IT相关的本科学历，没那么容易符合要求啊。
以下是引用wandertree2012在1/29/2012 11:06:00 PM的发言：
顶你的签名，有趣，对自己好点有没有？有没有吃晚餐？今天生气了没有？
對自己好點，因為一輩子不長；對身邊的人好點，因為下輩子不一定能夠遇見！ 自由不是想干什么就干什么，而是想不干什么就不干什么
If you have a Accounting degree, you do not need to spend
time for the useless CPA exam. It doesn't help you much for job
hunting.
[此贴子已经被作者于2012/1/29 20:58:12编辑过]
根据我找工的经验，这条不对！
如果要找好工作，ＣＰＡ是敲门砖．
不然的话就老在小公司，ＵＮＤＥＲＰＡＹ
[此贴子已经被作者于2012/1/30 0:16:04编辑过]
Accounting is a low pay job. Even you get a CPA, your chance to get a job is low. Even you get a Accounting job, the politics will bring headache... Because that job is kind of low tech. Other other hand, database analyst bring much higher salary then Accounting job...
ＡＣＣＯＵＴＩＮＧ越老工资越高，少说１０几万
ＰＯＬＩＴＩＣＳ不管什么工作都会有
ＩＴ的越老越没优势
"如果要找好工作，ＣＰＡ是敲门砖．
不然的话就老在小公司，ＵＮＤＥＲＰＡＹ"
-- There are many good jobs do not need a CPA.
-- Many people even with a hard earned CPA, still can't find a good job.
-- Specially for those who has a gap, who stayed in home raise kids after get a CPA, find a job again in Accounting is very hard.
-- In this case, find Database Analyst job is a better way to go.
-- Accounting plus Database skill will open a new world for those who can't find a Accounting job.
你这种逻辑不对．
就好像说经济好的时候也有人找不到工作，经济不好的时候也会有人找到工作一样．
我说的是总体来说，想要去好公司，绝对绝对需要ＣＰＡ．
另外，有ＧＡＰ对ＡＣＣＯＵＮＴＡＮＴ来说根本不是问题．有了经验以后再找工作简单得很．
"ＡＣＣＯＵＴＩＮＧ越老工资越高，少说１０几万"
-- The salary for Entry level Accounting job is very low.
-- It is hard to enter this kind of low salary job if you have years of Gap.
"ＰＯＬＩＴＩＣＳ不管什么工作都会有"
-- It is true.
-- Low tech job usually involve more politics.
-- High tech job has less politics because people have the marketable skill.
"ＩＴ的越老越没优势"
-- It is true for IT software developers, like JAVA, C++ developers.
-- It is not true for peole who know Database skills.
-- Because Database is not change much.
-- And database experience is accumulatable, the older, the better.
-- A Sr, Database Analyst has much nicer lifestyle than a Sr. Accounting people, and they earn the similar salary.
-- Again, here we focus on how to help people who do not have a job now to find a good job in a quick way. Database Analyst job do not require you get another useless degree (like Accounting), do not require you pass a license (like a CPA).
我做ＡＣＣＯＵＮＴＩＮＧ这一行时间也不短了．你说的关于ＡＣＣＯＵＮＴＩＮＧ的几乎句句都错．
你自己先去干干这一行再来说吧
这句说的不错，我曾经干过这一类工作，现在记帐都用软件，既懂会计又懂数据库的很受欢迎
-- Accounting plus Database skill will open a new world for those who can't find a Accounting job.
这句说的不错，我曾经干过这一类工作，现在记帐都用软件，既懂会计又懂数据库的很受欢迎
请教这类工作的title是什么？谢谢
"我做ＡＣＣＯＵＮＴＩＮＧ这一行时间也不短了．你说的关于ＡＣＣＯＵＮＴＩＮＧ的几乎句句都错．"
-- The topic is focus on how to help a people who want a job to find a job;
-- As a people who worked in Accounting for many years, from your heart, recall the time when you start your Accounting job:
Does your job require a Accounting degree? Yes.
How much salary of your first Accounting job? Yes, very low.
Therefore, what 老土 said is correct from your experience.
Do you want our new friend spend money to get another useless degree, than get a job? No.
Do you want our friend get the low pay job as you did many years ago? No, you don't.
有哪个工作现在是不需要ＤＥＧＲＥＥ的?来这里的大多数不都是有DEGREE了才工作?
我当时的起薪,包括我周围的朋友,都不低,当然,除非非要去那些中国人开的小FIRM.
如果ACCOUNTING真有你说的那么不好,那为什么还有那么多人愿意干这行？
-- Database skills is used every where, in all the companies. Easily find jobs in every city.
-- 学校,医院,公司,政府,保险,银行,法律,运输,通讯.
-- The nice thing is: this job do not require a hard degree, and offer better salary (because it is hugh tech job).
-- And some company offer you work from home.
-- Many Bio Ph.D. facing budget now, can't find good job now. This is a excelent enter point.
请教该如何进入这个领域啊 自学软件？
学会计但不懂database的一枚
睡了一觉醒来你们还在辩论，跟谁学，专家亲自来和大家谈，你们还不知道要跟谁学吗？去调查一下谁来了不就知道了。哎，干脆做一个video放在YouTube上面。
没辩论啊 问问还不行啊
-- Sorry, 因为不是做广告, 不回答这类问题.
-- Would you please search on internet, find the answer by yourself?
Thanks!
其实这个问题才是要点吧。看了半天没明白你说的database skill到底是什么？什么专业出身的算是有这种skill set，如果没有的话如何获得？
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-- The data shown that people (with many years of gap) can get Database Analyst job with starting salary from $50k to $55/hour.
-- This is Solid Data from the successful people who want oto make change of their life.
lz这个信息有点误导人。
现在行内找工作不止是你那说的那点要求了。只懂点database是远远不够的。
以下是引用土老国美在1/29/2012 8:48:00 PM的发言：
If you do not have a job, if you do not like you current job, if you want find a good job, if you are a lady, there is one kind of job you should try.
The job title can be any of the following:
Database Analyst / System Analyst / Market Analyst / Business Analyst / Reporting Engineer
Price Analyst / Labor Force Analyst
It doesn't matter what title they are, as long as the job requires Database
knowledge, it means the same thing.
You already have a degree in China,
really do not need waste your time and money to get another degree.
If you have a Accounting degree, you do not need to spend
time for the useless CPA exam. It doesn't help you much for job
hunting.
Gap is not a problem.
Many successful stories...
[此贴子已经被作者于2012/1/29 20:58:12编辑过]
坐等老土再次被封。本来就是广告帖，还这么嚣张
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大家要当心！
"这位LZ，为啥别人问你问题都要用英文回答呢？我看见那么多语法错误，我的纠错强迫症又要犯了，LZ是来练习英文的？"
-- 公主好.
-- I get used and type faster in English, so I just write reply in English to save time.
-- Plus, for those who wants to go out for work, read English is good for them.
-- Yes, write in English is a good exercise for me too.
-- 老土是土生土长的中国人．英语不是母语．
因此，老土写不出美国人那样的英语，老土知道．
同时．老土写的英文，这么多年来，在工作中，美国人都懂，从没挑剃过语法问题．
至于个别老中说老土语法有问题，这个吗，多谢了！
原本都是土中来，百年之后都是土，相逢何必土不土?
[此贴子已经被作者于2012/1/30 2:18:48编辑过]
可是你不是一直强调英语好是最重要的吗
其实这个问题才是要点吧。看了半天没明白你说的database skill到底是什么？什么专业出身的算是有这种skill set，如果没有的话如何获得？ 我在database analyst做了5年，觉得自己还是有发言权的。我自己是cs+统计，知道做的好的同事也大都有programming背景和数学文凭，逻辑思维强。这行基本类似一个公司里的桥梁，要懂business，知道手中的数据能如何tell the story帮助管理层做决定; 然后要会写query，知道database和etl的基本，才能跟IT很好的沟通。这行老美比老中多，所以没绿卡的很难从entry level做起。做的好的年薪6位数的自然有，做了数年还不足50k的我也见过。毫无经验相关背景，上老土的课就能入门找到好工作的说法，我只能笑而不语了。
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你这种逻辑不对．
就好像说经济好的时候也有人找不到工作，经济不好的时候也会有人找到工作一样．
我说的是总体来说，想要去好公司，绝对绝对需要ＣＰＡ．
另外，有ＧＡＰ对ＡＣＣＯＵＮＴＡＮＴ来说根本不是问题．有了经验以后再找工作简单得很．
请问mm，找到工作之前，到哪里攒经验啊？？？
再求你别说英文了，自己英文不咋地，在华人坛子卖弄，不知图啥。真是湾区的top database expert，实打实捐钱给华人买广告位好了，何必发帖忽悠。
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一个多年没工作，又很想工作的主妇，照老土的建议，几个月后找到可心的工作，生命就改变了．一个多年没工作，又很想工作的主妇，看了你的帖子，几个月后仍在家呆着出不去．哪个好？ 不用脑子想都知道．Write in English is just because typing English is faste...... 完全不问背景经验，几个月培训就有工作，这完全就是国内野鸡职业培训学校的口吻。
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