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成功的米菲兔
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A letter to the class of 25 from an ivy league dropout

 

Dear Class of 25 and onward,

 

As many decisions roll out and many people here decide where they will spend the next four years of their lives, I want to share an important lesson I learned. To introduce myself, I'm currently a freshman at a nearby community college in Southern California (LA), a high school class of 2024. I come from a lower middle class income family and a strictly Asian(Japanese) background where many of my relatives went to "elite" universities in the US and Japan.

 

Last year around this time, I got into Princeton, which was my dream school. I cried out of joy when I opened the decision, and my parents also teared up because I got a full ride. I was the salutatorian of my high school, and I had pretty much all A's with a 4.7 GPA and 1580 SAT and 31 ACT. At the time, I felt like I was on top of the world, and to this day I cannot explain how happy I was when I opened my decision. I had other choices such as Berkeley, UCLA, Duke, USC, Boston University, Dartmouth, and a few other schools with a lot of recognition. As Princeton was the number one school on many college ranking websites and the brand had incredible recognition worldwide wide plus the full ride, it was a no-brainer for me to pick Princeton.

 

When I arrived at Princeton, all my expectations were different. I failed almost all my classes I was taking, I was not able to make any friends, and all the academic pressure and prestige crushed my mental health. I lied to my parents about doing well and about having a lot of friends at Princeton because they had a lot of expectations of me and did not want them to worry about my academics as well as my social life there. As my mental health got worse and worse, I had thoughts about killing myself and just ending it all. This, combined with my failing relationship, which I was putting too much time, money, and thoughts into, completely destroyed my mental health, and I was at the point where my friends from home called an ambulance for me, and I was hospitalized. Because of the combination of a failed relationship (breakup) and my poor academic and mental health during my stay at Princeton, I dropped out after 1 semester without my parents' approval or anyone's approval but mine.

 

**What can other people learn from my experience?**

 

If I were to go back in time, I would tell myself to pick a school where I actually felt comfortable instead of picking prestige and reputation over anything, and I would tell anyone in the world that's trying to decide what school they should go to the same thing. Because I prioritized the "wrong" requirements for me to pick a school, I now struggle with depression from my experience at Princeton, a failed relationship with my now ex, and a sour relationship with my parents that formed after I dropped out of Princeton.

 

My main advice to the class of 25 and forward is that I want them to know that these schools are extremely selective for a reason. There is a reason why many students with 4.0 GPAs get rejected. Not just Princeton but the Ivy League and many other selective schools are like that because they require a certain type of people with unique goals and personalities to succeed at those schools. I mainly attended Princeton because of the name brand and the networking opportunity, but a lot of people I interacted with were entrepreneurs, world leaders, and had incredible talents. These people are trying to change the world for the better and compared to that, my reason for attending Princeton sounds like nothing. If you want to attend, you should have a REAL reason, not just because of the Ivy League brand name.

 

Picking a school is super easy, it's just putting a deposit and a single click, but that decision can cost you everything. I currently have depression, and other lifelong scars on my heart. If I could go back in time, I 100% would. *I don't want anyone to go through the same experience as me and suffer like what I am going through* right now, which is why I decided to post this, and I'm just trying to find people to hangout together near my area if they are willing to because my wish for myself is to heal as soon as possible from my wound and make new friends.

 

Thank you,  

KN

我是谁的谁
TL;DR?
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Bailey4321
P的 AO failed him. 另外 SAT 1580. ACT 31? Not adding up
成功的兔
1580,31,确实fishy
成功的米菲兔
所以今年多招能付钱的小中,至少学校不亏?
我是谁的谁
怎么会fail掉P大所有的课?P大不收我们扛虐的啊
成功的米菲兔
SAT作弊很容易,估计有那个分,act就放飞自我了
成功的米菲兔
就是,不收牛小猪是P的一大损失
幸福象花儿一样
所以学校非招15%+LI 的学生风险确实不小,谁知道给了他们资源,他们能不能接得住呢。
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Bailey4321
如果ACT31才是真实水平。。。P看见1580 当然觉得他能胜任了
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zhudi
我朋友女儿第一年上P,没有拿到一个A。听说A要95
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Bailey4321
前两年还有一个

Penn跳楼的。那个孩子可惜了。好像是个挺上进的黑人男生。跟不上就是跟不上,就想不开了。

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zhudi
为啥SAT能作弊?
成功的米菲兔
是的,家里傻熊被技校和普脆据了以后,爹娘的安慰就是,谢天谢地,不用担心你混不下来
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phobos
南加,各种各样DEI奇形怪状,占了正常人的名额,时常也害了自己。
成功的米菲兔
因为有些考场监考不严啊,对答案,抄答案,以前纸考很容易
我是谁的谁
是个念书的天堂,某种意义上,还剩下的为数不多的象牙塔
我是谁的谁
一样能学下来,苦点而已
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zhudi
天!
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Bailey4321
我就不懂紫檀老说牛娃藤校轻松4.0那种。起码看P的家长说的,好像没有这么轻松的
成功的米菲兔
这些孩子其实好好上州大没有太多问题
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Bailey4321
能这样啊。
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phobos
听说的都是HY有这好事,P不一样
天意悠悠
福祸相倚

每次看到这种故事我都感慨:也许熊娃选择做“仰卧起坐”娃是有他的智慧的,只有在他认为最重要的事情上他才会用全力,大部分时候都是good enough is good enough,这样基本不会出现burn out的情况,偶尔掉了链子也可以阿Q的告诉自己:我还有潜力可以挖掘 所以他才能在割喉公校保持每天八个半小时的睡眠,看上去总是阳光灿烂的样子。

两女宝妈
圈子吧,可能见到的都是藤校里面最top的孩子
我是谁的谁
毫无疑问,普林斯顿是藤校里念书最苦的地方,而且是全方位的苦,文理都没有便宜课
两女宝妈
这么说我家小的也是类似的了,干啥都不愿意让自己太累。。。我以为这是美国学校教育带来的效果呢
幸福象花儿一样
对啊,我们这种皮糙肉厚特能扛的,AO看不上啊
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zhudi
我以为是康?
小小试一下水
大娃就认识同学里大一之后上了academic probation 的孩子, 其中一个是德州乡下公校的孩子, 学校没AP,

是学校历史上GPA 最高毕业的。另一个是德州小白男, premed,所有premed 有关的课在大一都没过, 孩子很坚定的要读医,当时的说法是大二的时候要把没过的课重修个遍。这个还不是紫檀上割喉的学校, 孩子离家上学, 要适应学校环境, 孩子们也不容易。

成功的兔
啊,这是美国?……
幸福象花儿一样
确实可惜!这孩子也是太要强了
我是谁的谁
普林斯顿比康大更难更苦
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TigerLady
高中在Olympiad拼杀到一定名次的应该还好。娃的高中上届师兄说第一年挺轻松的。
天意悠悠
不确定,我还要等等看

等两小娃都上了高中再看到底是个人性格还是系统的效果。目前看他俩比哥哥小时候自推多了,要是两个天生自推娃到了高中也变成了“仰卧起坐”娃,那么很有可能是系统的作用。

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SNHmom2015
好像ACT应该比SAT容易拿高分
成功的兔
都是牛人……我家都没4.0,不轻松,老妈得等毕业工作安定了才能松口气,路漫漫
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Bailey4321
试试看了。高分的SAT也不会太低。 31 能考出1580,闻所未闻啊。
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niuniuxin2006
我当年来美和这孩子一样,选了手里OFFER里最好的学校,因为没有人告诉我怎么选

我两年后也选择了DROPOUT。当然我是移民,读的是博士,我有很多功课之外的考量。选择远远不是click a button和别人听到你读的学校的一声wow(国人为主),要求你真的比较了解你自己选择的路上的好与坏。还好我的教训为孩子们避开了坑。

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zhudi
可能act就裸考了一次?SAT考好了就不再考了?
小小试一下水
这个看孩子, 娃有个朋友CMU CS 毕业的, 当年ACT考不到30分,速度跟不上, 改考SAT就没事了
无言无语无声
太可惜了!我想他就是交了女朋友花了太多时间精力,又艰苦之后大放松。傻了,应该休学,有先例,

经过一系列血的教训,不让休学后来自杀,校方现在让步的。他不是混上去的,底子在,就是适应问题。大学阶段,一步跟不上步步跟不上。他没有父母支持,这是最关键的,因此仓促做决定,回不去了。CC州大不见得容易,所以傻了,这孩子!

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phobos
你娃现在这条路听着都不容易,你是有故事的,方便的话,请适度分享。
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phobos
似乎在某处突然乱掉了
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whatiknow
4.7+ 1580都dropout了, 真这么吓人吗。。
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SNHmom2015
有可能。
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niuniuxin2006
适合就不觉得苦
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joyce20
这孩子主要是谈恋爱和交友出了问题,无法专心学业,又离乡背井,父母不知情,无法开导。
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Bebe54321
这个显然靠low income 混进了P, 进去一看受到重创。完全爬不起来

井底之蛙。原来天那么大啊

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lionhill
说明高中太差,普大是难但没见过fail所有课的,高中第二名太水,ACT31水平就说明高中很差.
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jenda123
康文科不苦,理工不容易。
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niuniuxin2006
我不知道有几个人很认真地读这个原文,这孩子所谓的FAIL课程只是原因之一,巨大的学业压力让他无暇顾及其他,交不到朋友,

还有原有期望和现实的巨大落差产生的精神压力综合一起才是quit的主要原因。还有一点他提到,周围同学和自己的理想的格格不入,这点我当年是有体会的,那种孤独感对精神健康绝对非常不利。

其实这孩子从这次经历总结的教训还是很好的,应该为他以后的生活做出的更好的选择。